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Leneveu
August 1st, 2009, 08:32 AM
Does anybody know of instructions for a shortened ponytail?

There is this tutorial (http://www.network54.com/Forum/242462/thread/1092658771/Shortened+Ponytail), but it's not what I'm looking for. I'd like to create a high, fairly short ponytail, where the hair is neither draped over something, nor sticking out the bottom of something :ponder: ...err, sorry, I'm not explaining this too well!

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avZo0-xkyJ8&feature=channel_page) is where I got the inspiration (Susanna's hair in a marvellous production of Figaro). Her hair is at least TBL, so I'll have to wait a while before I can do that.

I've tried just making a "one-coil" cinnabun and tucking the remaining length through the coil, but since my hair is only just at waist, the "ponytail" is pathetically short!

Any ideas? I'd love to be able to create something a bit sporty and fun, which I'm starting to miss as my hair gets longer and tends to look rather "serious" and elegant :p

danacc
August 1st, 2009, 08:55 AM
With iii hair, the single-coil cinnabun will use up a lot of length. What if you divided your hair, say, in 3 or 4 sections, and made a single coil cinnabun with each section at the base of the "ponytail"? That should use less length and leave a longer "short" ponytail.

eresh
August 1st, 2009, 08:56 AM
Do you mean something like this?
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/650/mknoopstaart3.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/i/mknoopstaart3.jpg/) http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5654/mknoopstaart2.th.jpg (http://img139.imageshack.us/i/mknoopstaart2.jpg/)

I just made a knot in my hair and pinned it secure with a Flexi :)
To make it shorter I do 2 knots in a row and pin it with a bigger clip.
It shortens the ponytail, just like odangobuns (http://www.saveoursailors.org/odango/odango.html)

Leneveu
August 1st, 2009, 11:08 AM
eresh, that looks gorgeous in your hair. It's a bit like what I've already tried...only, in my hair all that's left over is a sorry little stub :( I need more length!

danacc that's a great idea, thanks. I hadn't thought of doing anything like that. Here's what my very first attempts looked like :o :

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2998&pictureid=46411

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2998&pictureid=46412

Still needs a little (or a lot) of practice, but I think it could work. I just wish I had that arty touch with hair, though.
:)

Xandergrammy
August 1st, 2009, 11:19 AM
I just made a knot in my hair and pinned it secure with a Flexi :)
To make it shorter I do 2 knots in a row and pin it with a bigger clip.
It shortens the ponytail, just like odangobuns (http://www.saveoursailors.org/odango/odango.html)


I make a knot in my hair too for shortened ponytails.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g6/Xandergrammy/The%20Next%20One%20Thousand/And%20Another%20Thousand/DSCN0073-2.jpg

Zéphine
August 1st, 2009, 11:37 AM
Could it work if you place the knot higher? I can get a tail if the knot is almost on top of my head, but not really if it's lower down. Though that's with mid-range ii hair, so it might take more length for you.

nueinsel
August 1st, 2009, 11:54 AM
Would an upside-down French braid left in a pony-tail at the top shorten it up enough? I'm guessing not. I'm going to try and see how it works myself, though!

klcqtee
August 1st, 2009, 12:26 PM
torrinpaige has something that may help you on her youtube page (sorry, I don't have the link bookmarked). Her's is very very cute, but not quite as short as the woman from the video.

nueinsel
August 1st, 2009, 12:26 PM
Ok, so the upside-down French braid only works if you want the ponytail to come literally off your forehead. In other words, it works not so much. I do sometimes get a shorter ponytail by making a regular braid at the nape of my neck, securing it against my head at high-ponytail-height, and letting the length fall over the braid. It usually covers the pinned portion quite well if I use a small barrette and only fold a tiny bit of braid up. This is probably exactly what you're Not looking for, since you said you don't want a drape, but anyway here's how it looks on my head (sorry, my camera ran out of batteries before I could take a side picture, but you can't see the braid or barrette through the side either usually):

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=3562&pictureid=46438

Leneveu
August 1st, 2009, 02:02 PM
klcqtee, is this (http://www.youtube.com/user/torrinpaige?blend=1&ob=4#play/uploads/41/q5w2yMI0eEI) the video? Unfortunately, I need more length before I can do that, but wow, her hair's beautiful, and there's a treasure trove of videos there.

Zéphine, I actually tried doing a knot with my head upside down :p

Nueinsel, you're right, I'm looking for something that isn't a drape...but that looks really nice so I might try it anyway :)

pradabacon
August 1st, 2009, 03:31 PM
^^^ maybe you can put an elastic at the area of the braid where you are going to pin so there isn't the drape effect. Then pin the braid through part of the elastic or right underneath it. And I'm going to try that out, too. It really does look nice.

Here is another version of the shortened pony by torrinpaige. This one doesn't tie the hair in a knot, so you can adjust the amount of length that is left out. My hair isn't long enough to do a knot either (with enough length left out), but this one works on me with just the twist folded up once, rather than doing a cinnabun all the way around (which makes it shorter than I want). Since it can be held with a rounded clip, it doesn't create the draped effect so much. The ponytail version starts at about 5 1/2 min. into the vid. The first part is pigtails with the same technique.

pradabacon
August 1st, 2009, 03:35 PM
eresh, that looks gorgeous in your hair. It's a bit like what I've already tried...only, in my hair all that's left over is a sorry little stub :( I need more length!

danacc that's a great idea, thanks. I hadn't thought of doing anything like that. Here's what my very first attempts looked like :o :

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2998&pictureid=46411

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2998&pictureid=46412

Still needs a little (or a lot) of practice, but I think it could work. I just wish I had that arty touch with hair, though.
:)

This is really adorable, btw. :D

pradabacon
August 1st, 2009, 03:57 PM
Oh, hey...how about this? http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=30400

Divide your hair into two halves - top half and bottom half - where you want your ponytail to end up. Then French braid the top half down and the bottom half up until they meet and make a pony out of the ends. That could work.

Zéphine
August 2nd, 2009, 12:08 AM
I was playing with my hair and came up with this variation that leaves a longer tail.
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu214/zephiiine/Photo62.jpg http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu214/zephiiine/Photo63.jpg
Not sure if it's the kind of thing you're looking for, but it's done like this:
1. Twist hair upward like you're making a French twist.
2. When you get to the crown of your head, stop and secure the twisted part, leaving the tail free.
3. Take a strand of hair from the tail and wrap it tightly around the twist several times, so that the twist folds over on itself, forming a sort of bun. Secure with pins. Repeat with a second strand of hair if necessary.
4. Arrange so that the tail falls how you want it to, securing with pins as needed.

pradabacon
August 2nd, 2009, 12:32 AM
Cute, Zephine! :thumbsup:

Heidi_234
August 2nd, 2009, 12:47 AM
Maybe a higher up topsy tail?

Leneveu
August 2nd, 2009, 09:59 AM
hootietoot, here's my attempt at your first suggestion :p :

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2998&pictureid=46560


Here is another version of the shortened pony by torrinpaige.

Do you have the link to this video? It sounds promising :)


Oh, hey...how about this? http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=30400

Divide your hair into two halves - top half and bottom half - where you want your ponytail to end up. Then French braid the top half down and the bottom half up until they meet and make a pony out of the ends. That could work.

This sounds good, too. Now I just need a few years' practice :p

Zéphine, that's a good idea, thanks. My version still needs a bit of work:

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2998&pictureid=46561
twist side

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2998&pictureid=46562
opposite side

Heidi_234, my ponytail is still at BSL with a topsy tail. But thanks for the reminder, I hadn't thought of topsy tails in years!

pradabacon
August 2nd, 2009, 02:10 PM
Do you have the link to this video? It sounds promising :)


Whoops! Did I forget the link while I was jabbering away? :D My bad!

http://www.youtube.com/user/torrinpaige#play/uploads/6/7ASvRfQpSGA

P.S. All these styles look really cute on you. I think you can get away with just about anything! Hootie's jealous! http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/hootietoot/girl_sigh-1.gif

Xandergrammy
August 2nd, 2009, 02:19 PM
hootietoot, here's my attempt at your first suggestion :p :

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2998&pictureid=46560




This looks adorable!!!

KarenLynn
August 2nd, 2009, 02:58 PM
There's also this (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=125) option - not sure if that's what you're looking for, though, or if it'll work for you. ETA - oh, and this (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=109). You can replace the claw clip with a barrette or another type of clip.

Amara
August 2nd, 2009, 03:15 PM
I do the one-coil cinnabun but I make sure to wrap it far enough around the second time that the ponytail comes from above the bun -the hair stick helps hold it in place.