Have you ever heard/use David Babaii for WildAid?

[82exoticbeauty]

Have you ever heard/use David Babaii for WildAide Shampoo/Conditioner?

It's a Sulfate free, Paraben Free, Color Safe Shampoo and Conditioner! It's at the stores at the Sally Beauty Supply and online too! I don't know if they sell it all in Sally Beauty Supply, but I got mine around the Riverside County area! They got good ratings on it too on the website of Sally Beauty! I'll put up the link at the end bottom of my post!

I'm only using the David Babaii for WilAide Hydrating Shampoo and it did great on my hair, I don't see splits coming out! The only split ends that kept creeping out is the Sulfate ingredients that I use before!
I don't know how people with dandruff might react to David Babaii for WildAide Shampoo! So here is the link to it and the others link too:

http://www.sallybeauty.com/David-Babaii-Shampoo/SBS-552004,default,pd.html

http://www.sallybeauty.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-SA-Site/default/Search-Show?prefn1=brand&prefv1=BABAII&brandLandingPage=truehttp://www.sallybeauty.com/David-Babaii-Shampoo/SBS-552004,default,pd.html

Even though, the spray, and mousse got good ratings, but not the
amplifying shampoo and conditioner, which I don't use, the only good rating is the hydrating shampoo/conditioner because it's summer, the spray, and mousse, and other! It's also good through out the season, unless if it's winter and don't like it hydrating! that's fine with me, no problems! So that is why I posted this thread so to those at this LHC know/use this David Babaii for WildAide

After this shampoo, I will try going for another because I want to try other Sulfate free Shampoo on which is best! The David Babaii Shampoo did great on my hair for no splits, but it made it soft, but not that much (edited word 'shiny'), and not too much bounce on hair! So, that's the first Sulfate free shampoo I used in my life!

Had EDITED AT AUGUST 1st, 4:07PM because I tried Burt's Bees Super Shiny Shampoo, made my hair feel like straw, but this shampoo of David Babaii did great on my hair! So I rather stick to this shampoo for now! The David Babaii hydrating shampoo made my hair with bounce and soft!

[freznow]

*looks at ingredients list*

Uh... that's frightening. I'll wait till I have a really long day of boredom to figure all those out... I'm sure they're probably just fancy names for safe, naturally derived things, but... gosh those are some fancy names.

[Flynn]

Sodium Laureth Sulfosuccinate is the sulfate alternative used in many, if not most, baby shampoos. It's slightly less irritating than SLS or other sulfates. That's the only "unusual" thing I can see about this over other "natural" shampoos.

[82exoticbeauty]

that's ok about it! since it may be alot of ingredients, but I know I don't get split ends on this and made my hair soft to the feel and shiny, but I always switch shampoo of Sulfate free! So there is also a sulfate free shampoo called Vitamin shampoo! this is the link to it

http://www.vitaminshampoo.com/

I know some people are quite confused on soo many ingredients to shampoos that may have some chemical and are Sulfate free!
And another link about Sulfate/Sulfate free shampoo list on another thread here

http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=34009


Forgot to mention that this is the link to David Babaii for WildAide Shampoo, which had Kate Hudson that uses it! which is why it's new to this year 2009!

http://www.db4wildaid.com/

but it is okay if everyone here uses other sulfate free shampoo, so I don't disagree and complain about it! It's nice to hear others opinion on what type of sulfate free shampoo they use!

[Roseate]

*looks at ingredients list*

Uh... that's frightening. I'll wait till I have a really long day of boredom to figure all those out... I'm sure they're probably just fancy names for safe, naturally derived things, but... gosh those are some fancy names.

You're not kidding! The conditioner has a cone I've never heard of before, "Rimethylsiloxyamodimethicone". Yowza, what a word!

[Flynn]

Ooh. Hadn't looked up the condish yet. No msds for that 'cone via google, so I'm thinking it is an obscure or company-invented synonym for something already out there.

Edit: i think the "ri" is an error; it could be either di- or tri-. This (http://www.chemdrug.com/databases/dataimg/7/62427.png) is phenyltrimethylsiloxane. This (http://www.abacovital.com/fichastecnicas/polimeros/imagenes/amodimethicone.GIF) is amodimethicone. The bits in the brackets repeats; it's a silicone polymer. Tri/dimethylsiloxyamodimethicone is, by my best guess, amodimethicone terminated at one or perhaps even both ends by a tri/dimethylsiloxane... so where the benzene ring (hexagon) is on the first picture, replace either all of amodimethicone after the OH- or before the -H, or stick a trimethylsiloxane on both ends.

Edit 2: It would appear that it is indeed trimethylsiloxyamodimethicone, and they have made an error. Trimethylsiloxyamodimethicone appears relatively common, though Skin Deep (http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient.php?ingred06=706695&nothanks=1) seem to have found there to be too little info available on it. Here, hopefully (http://sdb.wacker.com/pf/e/result/report.jsp?P_LANGU=E&P_SYS=2&P_SSN=81033&P_REP=00000000000000000030&P_RES=169652&P_SPEC=R) is a (PDF-format) MSDS for it, if you are interested. My guess at the structure was wrong: it's just polydimethylsiloxane (dimethicone) with those funky aminoalkyl groups that amodimethicone has. Presumably it's different from amodimethicone by side-group spacings or something...?

So, in short, it's just a fancy name for a small variation on amodimethicone.

[ktani]

There are more reviews here (http://www.makeupalley.com/product/searching.asp?CategoryID=0&brand=&title=david+babaii).

The line seems to have everything in it in terms of plants except the kitchen sink, lol.

What it comes down to though, regardless of the ingredient lists, is how any of the products are on your hair.

If you like the hydrating shapoo so far, great! I do not think the line is worse than many out there and may be better than some.

drugstore.com (http://www.drugstore.com/templates/brand/default.asp?brand=55920&trx=29985&trxp1=55920&trxp2=3) has the whole line or most of it and there are reviews and ingredients lists there too.

[ktani]

I looked into this line a while ago.

An amusing inverview with David Babaii, in the Los Angeles Times, 2008, on the creative process before the line was perfected, (except the part where he tested products without telling his clients). He sounds pretty down to earth and honest, if a little strange, lol. I like his candor.

"During the development phase of his new natural hair care products, David Babaii for WildAid, the hairdresser tested shampoos, conditioners, sprays and thickeners on his famous clients, including Kate Hudson (who partnered with him on the line), Sarah Jessica Parker, Kate Winslet, Uma Thurman and Angelina Jolie "I tested them on everyone in the past few years, I just didn't tell them," he 'fessed on the phone today. (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/07/hollywood-haird.html)
Babaii actually used the WildAid Beach Spray to make Angie's hair look thick and luxurious on last month's Vanity Fair cover. And he tested so many early-stage testing shampoos, conditioners and lifting sprays on his partner, Kate Hudson, that her hair broke off and, at one point, turned green. (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/07/hollywood-haird.html)
"I was always testing on Kate before an awards show or a big premiere," David recalls. "She would say, 'What are you doing now? Remember when she hacked off her own bangs? That's because they were falling off," David says. He was on his way to cut them for her, got stuck in traffic, and when he got there, she'd done it herself. "Not a bad job either," he laughs. "She even cuts [her son] Ryder's hair sometimes." (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/07/hollywood-haird.html)

[Roseate]

Ooh. Hadn't looked up the condish yet. No msds for that 'cone via google, so I'm thinking it is an obscure or company-invented synonym for something already out there.

Edit 2: It would appear that it is indeed trimethylsiloxyamodimethicone, and they have made an error.

Yeah, that's the conclusion I came to as well; googling it without the "t" brought up only ingredients lists for this one product, but with the T brings up all kinds of info.