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bunnii
May 14th, 2009, 01:07 PM
Lately i've been having an itchy scalp, I CO and do vinegar rinses. So I thought I was going to have to use shampoo, which I really hate as it removes any build up but leaves my scalp so dry that it itches and doesn't get rid of the problem at all :silly: There didn't seem to be any build up on my hair, just my scalp, whenever i scratched (I tried avoiding doing that) there was loads of white stuff under my nails, YUK!!

So I needed a way to get rid of the gunk, and I thought to myself 'A sugar scrub!' I'm sure I read about that here so I gave it a go. I got my hair wet and mixed a little EVOO into some sugar and rub it into my scalp, then rinsed. Then I thought the oil might stay on my scalp and the problem wouldn't go away, so I got some more sugar without the EVOO and rubbed that in too, then I washed as normal, and the itching has all but gone!!

Just thought i'd share to anyone who is looking for a shampoo free way of helping with scalp buildup.

Also has anyone else done this? I'm sure I read about it here :)

LisaJaney
May 14th, 2009, 01:38 PM
Bunnii, There was something similar (conditioner with brown-sugar in it) in Lorraine Massey's Curly Girls book. Would that be what you're thinking of? I get that white-stuff sometimes, too, and it's DISGUSTING. I try to really CLEAN that scalp with the conditioner when I "wash" (CO washer here, too) and that helps. And I brush with my BBB. Head upside-down, brush til my scalp tingles, then I COwash my hair and really work that conditioner in.

I may try to brown-sugar scrub again, though. It's been awhile since I've done that. Thanks for reminding me!

(good to see you again!)

earthdancer
May 14th, 2009, 01:40 PM
What a brilliant idea! Shampoo doesn't solve the problem for me, and I tried baking soda and water but it is very drying.

The sugar-and-oil mixture ought to be called "The Sugar Solution".;)

jera
May 14th, 2009, 02:57 PM
I'd lve to be able to exfoliate my scalp the way I do my face but so far all I use for that is SLS free shampoo once every two or three weeks. Otherwise, I'd get those white thingies too. :o I'll be watching this thread for more ideas and solutions. :eyebrows:

goodluckcharm
May 14th, 2009, 03:10 PM
Interesting! I get those white flakies too, which sometimes look like dandruff but I think it's different, and haven't yet found a solution. I think I'll try a sugar scrub during my next wash!

bunnii
May 14th, 2009, 03:32 PM
Ah, I was sure i'd seen it mentioned before :)

I hope it works for other too, I always hate the dry itchies after shampoo, which is probably why I left it 2 months between build up removal this time :o

Thanks LJ, it's good to be back :D

magpielaura
May 14th, 2009, 04:56 PM
I'll probably give this a go next time I get a flare up. Does anyone else get one area that is always bad? The patch above my right ear is terrible. After last wash I mixed a tiny smear of coconut oil with aloe gel and massaged it in to that bit before it dried. It was better, so maybe dryness makes it worse in some instances.

ZaBasDa
May 14th, 2009, 05:16 PM
I use a coarse sugar-conditioner scrub about once or week, at least I try to. Otherwise, I get ferociously awful white gunk on my scalp and it itches and starts to scab. And I only add just enough conditioner to make the sugar stick together a bit.

Norai
May 14th, 2009, 06:30 PM
This is a really good idea. :)

renarok
May 14th, 2009, 08:19 PM
I know I've heard about this before, with great reviews, but could someone refresh me? What ratio of sugar to conditioner? How long do you let it sit? Should the scalp be scritched or brushed ahead of time? I am anxious to try this because I am still a scalp washer. I just haven't felt clean enough on my scalp with a CO wash. Though I've pretty much eliminated shampoo from the length.:)

Teazel
May 14th, 2009, 08:46 PM
I have seborrheic dermatitis, and sometimes in desperation I've used brown sugar to exfoliate the horrible flakies away.

Sugar mixed with shampoo (or conditioner) dissolves too quickly for me, so I mix it with almond oil - the same way I do for my face. After a good scrub it's into the shower for the usual S & C, and a bright shiny scalp is the result. :D

LisaJaney
May 14th, 2009, 09:09 PM
My sugar always wants to dissolve, too, so I have to move fast. I put about 1/4 cup of conditioner, and about 2 Tablespoons of sugar. Roughly 1:3 ration, sugar:condish. And I only use that on the scalp area. The REST of my hair just gets the conditioner.

And I always take a few lumps of the brown sugar to eat. I have ALWAYS loved brown sugar lumps...

windinherhair
May 14th, 2009, 09:16 PM
I also tend to have an itchy scalp. I never related it to the use of shampoo though. My scalp really only becomes itchy when I "think" it needs to be washed again, which I have tried to avoid itching and focus more on trying to wash my hair less. I also don't scratch because I also end up with the white under my nails. Then it can be seen through my hair. Yuck, I know.

I will try the sugar scrub and see if it will work for me too.

MadPirateBippy
May 14th, 2009, 11:05 PM
I'm so glad you posted this. My scalp has been itchy with white gunk for a couple of weeks now and it's been driving me CRAZY.

I'm going to try this soon! :)

HotRag
May 15th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Using massage brush has reduced itching, flakes and build up for me.

IHW and egg wash reduced itching, flaking and sebum production even more.

I massage scalp with massage brush every night.
With that I can get the scalp without scrubbing hair in the same time.

It can be used when washing too. To massage in schampo or conditioner more effective to solve scalp gunk, without scrubbing or ripping hairs.

I have this massage brush:
http://di1.shopping.com/images1/pi/26/51/89/30707284-177x150-0-0_.jpg

Calanthe
May 15th, 2009, 12:54 AM
I'm so going to try this when I next wash. Thanks for the idea. I hope, it works for me...

Ndnlady
May 15th, 2009, 01:15 AM
I actually forgot about that whole brown sugar mix! Thanks for reminding me, I need a good scalp exfoliation too.
ETA: I LOVE brown sugar lumps too! I always had to eat a couple lumps before I made my mix.

BittSweetCherry
May 15th, 2009, 01:41 AM
Sounds invigorating. I think I might give it a try.

As a CO washer, I also get that solid white gunk build-up which my weekly wash with conditioner alone just can't cut through. I currently rub a generous amount of coconut oil into my scalp and through my length the day before washing, and really work it into my scalp. The chemical nature and melting point of the coconut oil seems to make the sebum more readily removed by conditioners, but I think the brown sugar scrub would give me an extra edge.

Brownie
May 15th, 2009, 07:33 AM
Can I replace the sugar with sea salt? I've got quite a lot of salt at home :D
My scalp has been itchy and flaky with white build-up for a few months and it really gets on my nerves :o It got better after I started to clarify regularly, but it's still irritating.

sukhi_v1023
May 15th, 2009, 09:32 AM
Brownie, I was going to ask the same question.

I've gotten advice to take a dollop of coconut oil and some salt and rub it into your scalp for a good scalp exfoliation. Has anyone here tried it?

Samikha
May 15th, 2009, 10:02 AM
Brownie, I was going to ask the same question.

I've gotten advice to take a dollop of coconut oil and some salt and rub it into your scalp for a good scalp exfoliation. Has anyone here tried it?

I have! It works well and the salt doesn't dissolve the way sugar seems to.

People, that white gunk is sebum and dead skin cells - hate it all you like, but call it by its name;)

sukhi_v1023
May 15th, 2009, 10:20 AM
Ouuu... Thank you, Samikha. I've always had issues with sugar dissolving too quickly, so I think I'll try the salt and coconut oil mix. Woo hoo!

goodluckcharm
May 15th, 2009, 10:31 AM
I tried this last night, with good results. I used regular white sugar instead of brown and used much more sugar than conditioner. I got my hair damp in the shower, and then put some of the mixture on my finger tips and gave myself a scalp massage, adding more mixture when needed. Rinsed it out, followed by conditioning the ends. Today, I have way fewer flakes than I normally do. I think I'll be adding this in once a week!

AlleyKitten
May 15th, 2009, 06:29 PM
In my experience salt is harsher than sugar -- I can use a sugar scrub on my face and it loves it, but the time I tried it with salt I was afraid I'd scoured my skin off. So if you're going to give salt a try, be gentle with it.

My only problem with scalp exfoliation is that the oil tends to be hard to wash out of the hair right by my scalp, since I CO or use diluted shampoo...I might have to just suck it up and use my shampoo stronger, I'm not sure I trust sugar and conditioner to make anything other than a sticky mess!

GeoJ
May 15th, 2009, 06:44 PM
I'll probably give this a go next time I get a flare up. Does anyone else get one area that is always bad? The patch above my right ear is terrible. After last wash I mixed a tiny smear of coconut oil with aloe gel and massaged it in to that bit before it dried. It was better, so maybe dryness makes it worse in some instances.

Yes, I get one annoying spot that always has a lot of white gunk. It is right on the crown of my head. I don't think I have ever had to wash my hair because it was getting greasy, I think all of my washes have been due to either dirt or because I accidentally scratched that spot!

bunnii
May 16th, 2009, 07:33 AM
Alley Kitten - I didn't mix mine with conditioner, although I might try it next time. I didn't have any problem with stickyness I rinse loads and COed after and my hair was shiney, not itchy, and not sticky :D

My especially itchy bit is above my ears about an inch up and it drives me round the bend! I'm not sure if I will try salt, could it be drying? I suppose it would be good if you had alot of excess oil you wanted to absorb? The coconut oil and salt sounds lovely, but I may use sugar, actually I think i'm going to try everything :cheer:

Oh and I don't think I mentioned that I used plain old white sugar too.

Samikha
May 16th, 2009, 09:21 AM
I didn't find the salt scrub drying, but I never use it more than once a month :) And it's been a long time since the last one. If you rub too much your scalp is going to be a little red, but other than that it doesn't seem damaging. Sugar would be gentler, of course.

ETA: Use ordinary table salt, and you should be fine. Don't use anything rougher than that.

GoddesJourney
May 16th, 2009, 10:28 AM
This is great. Ever since I started trying to take care of my hair, I've been getting what looks like dandruff since I've been trying not to wash my hair everyday as I've done my whole life. I was trying to think of a way to get rid of all that without having to go back to daily washing. I may have to start getting away from thick waxy kinds of "cone" products if I'm not going to wash as much. I keep hearing about the Queen Helen stuff. Maybe I'll get some in hopes that it reduces the buildup, but I'll probably try this too. I'm tired of this "dandruff" looking things that I've never had in a lifetime of daily washing with "cone" shampoos and conditioners. Thanks everyone!

Laurel32
May 16th, 2009, 10:56 AM
Thank you for this board!

I mixed some brown sugar with my conditioner and gently rubbed it throughout my scalp. No itches yet! (My hair is usually itchy by now)

Calanthe
May 17th, 2009, 05:09 AM
OK, I tried it this morning. Still, can't say much yet, as my hair is still damp. Here's what DH said: "You are not washing your hair with sugar, are you?!" And than he gave me a look which said quite clearly: now she's lost it for good...:D

cynthia.md
May 17th, 2009, 12:24 PM
Ohh I'll have to try this tomorrow, thank you!

RetroKitten
May 18th, 2009, 10:49 AM
People, that white gunk is sebum and dead skin cells - hate it all you like, but call it by its name;)

I don't know which amount of sebum & dead skin cells is normal to have on your scalp, but wouldn't symptoms like that mean that my scalp needs a lot more moisture in general?

Deborah
May 18th, 2009, 11:55 AM
Actually I think that removing any scalp build-up is one of the main historical reasons for using a hair brush rather than just a comb. :)

Aang
May 18th, 2009, 01:34 PM
Thanks for this! I always have problems with an itchy flakey scalp - but the one time I tried Head and Shoulders it gave me a chemical burn. Very sensitive scalp, so hoping this will work!

I'll report back (I'm showering tonight) but thanks for the tip!

UrsaMama
May 18th, 2009, 01:49 PM
I'm gonna have to try this! I have a spot in the middle on the top of my head towards the front hairline that does this all the time!

Calanthe
May 18th, 2009, 11:50 PM
It seems to work. Less flakes than before, I think. I will keep this up for a few washes to see if it really works for me. And I don't have such bad halo hair, which I always have after washing with a poo bar or hair soap for a few days, so it seems less stripping. Again, thanks for the idea and method. :D

bunnii
May 19th, 2009, 05:32 AM
It seems to work. Less flakes than before, I think. I will keep this up for a few washes to see if it really works for me. And I don't have such bad halo hair, which I always have after washing with a poo bar or hair soap for a few days, so it seems less stripping. Again, thanks for the idea and method. :D

My halo seemed to be tamed a bit after trying it too, It's still there, just a bit smaller :cheese:

Carolyn
May 19th, 2009, 06:34 AM
I haven't done a sugar/brown sugar/salt scrub in ages. I remember when the brown sugar thing was one of those LHC fads. The scrubs are really nice and invigorating. Don't scrub too hard. Be gentle and just use the pads of the fingertips. Also don't let your mixture sit around before using it. Make it up and then get it on your head immediately. You'll have less dissolving this way. Any leftovers can be used on the body. I love it on my arms and decollete.

windinherhair
May 19th, 2009, 08:30 PM
I have been using the WC method (washing scalp and conditioning the length). I think I will try mixing the sugar in my shampoo the next time, and see if I can get the same effect. Any thoughts?

bunnii
May 20th, 2009, 05:56 AM
My only thought is that that sugar might disolve quicker in shampoo, but it's always worth a go, I love hair experiments :D

bunnii
May 21st, 2009, 09:57 AM
Ok, I think I found my perfect exfoliation mix for me - white sugar mixed with Tea tree and mint conditioner made by Original Source. I figure the tea tree would help with any scalp spots and the mint made my scalp all cold and tingley and my scalp felt super clean :cloud9: Might not be good for people with allergies though.

magpielaura
May 27th, 2009, 08:28 AM
I tried sugar with my last wash. Still a tad flakey, but there was a bit of improvement! I didn't wet my hair as I usually would but globbed my "washing" condish on my head then poured a pile of sugar on the top of my head and massaged it through, then rinsed. i was going to CO wash again but my hair felt smooth and clean so I didn't bother and it dried nice and shiny. i'll try doing it once every few washes to see if it will improve.

angelthadiva
May 27th, 2009, 08:43 AM
I've been doing this as needed for a long time. This is a great way to get rid of the scalp gunk that tends to build up. I use the brown sugar and condish method, the BS is a little more course to me and takes longer to break down than the white cane sugar IMHO. :flower:

Lilelfen1
December 10th, 2013, 05:32 PM
Ok, stupid question: What is "scritching"? I am assuming it is a cutesy form of the word "scratching". Lol

turtlelover
December 10th, 2013, 06:12 PM
Using Head & Shoulders dandruff shampoo once a week solves the problem for me. It really does a good job w/ "de-gunking". I don't do this year round, but at certain times of the year when this is a problem, the dandruff shampoo fixes it, even if I don't actually have dandruff.

Kat
December 10th, 2013, 07:10 PM
Doesn't it damage your hair? I've never used exfoliating "scrubs" on my scalp because I figure if it's sharp/harsh/scratchy enough to scrape away dead skin, it's sharp enough to scrape and weaken my hair as well...

leslissocool
December 10th, 2013, 07:14 PM
I'm kind of glad this was ressurected!


I have psoriasis, and while I do well with the mint shampoo's that are medicated I wonder if a scrub would do me well. I always thought it would be damaging, but I think I'm willing to try it...

Naima
December 10th, 2013, 11:51 PM
I have this itchy/flakey problem too. This thread just in time: today is a wash day for me, so I' gonna give a try to a sugar scrub))