terax crema conditioner

[goldenbrunette]

does/has anyone ever used this? good/bad..??

i just bought some because i heard liv tyler used it and her hair is beautiful..lol..such a sucker for these things

anyway i hope i havent wasted my money!

any reviews would be great!!!

[Desdemona]

I used to use it but it's been a long time. I would use it after I highlighted my hair to detangle, it was amazing for that. As I recall, it's a pretty light conditioner. I have fine hair that tends to go flat and it was always full and bouncy with Terax Crema. It might not be good if you are expecting a heavy, moisturizing conditioner. I had no complaints about it except the price, that's why I saved it for when I really needed it.

Let us know how you like it!

[goldenbrunette]

i tried it.

oh my, my hair is so different today XD

i shall definitely be using this one from now on, however it was a bit pricy so maybe use it once a week i think.

i would definitely reccomend this to you guys. there arent many ingredients i dont think theres any cones but its defo worth trying, today is a good hair day for me now :)

[Carolyn]

I've had this in my product rotation for several years. I love it. I love heavy conditioners and it wasn't too light for my hair. Target around here is finally carrying it. Yes it is pricey but worth it for me. It is awesome in SMT.

[Desdemona]

Glad it worked for you, goldenbrunette! And Carolyn, thanks for letting us know about Target, I might be able to get it with a coupon there! It's something I'd like to have on hand for special occasions because it doesn't weigh my hair down like other conditioners, which I rarely use.

[LutraLutra]

Glad to hear it's working for you. Years ago when I'd fried my hair with waaaay to much dye it was the only thing that kept my hair together, so it always has a place in my heart.

[ktani]

makeupalley.com reviews for Terax Crema. Apparently in 2006, the formula was changed. (http://www.makeupalley.com/product/showreview.asp/ItemId=608/Crema/Terax/Conditioner)

"New Version
Ingredients: Aqua (Deionized Water), Cetearyl Alcohol, Steartrimonium Chloride, Triethanolamine, Isopropyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Lauryl Alcohol, Parfume (Fragrance), Hydrogenated Tallow Glycerides, Ceteareth-3, Myristyl Alcohol.

Old Version
Ingredients: Water, Cetearyl Alcohol, Triethanolamine, Fragrance, Lauryl Alcohol, Isopropyl Alcohol, Hydrogenated Tallowtrimonium Chloride, Ceteareth-3, Hydrogenated Tallow Glycerides, Myristyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Choloride, TEA, Sodium Lauryl Sulfate. continued >> " (http://www.makeupalley.com/product/showreview.asp/page=4/pagesize=10/ItemID=608/SortBy=/AgeRange=/SkinToneType=/ID=/)

[Canarygirl]

I have Terax crema and like it a lot. I bought it becuase I read that Demi Moore allegedly said it was her "HG" conditioner. :D I didn't realize that it has no cones in it, though...

[amaiaisabella]

I've heard of this in Europe! I didn't know they sold it here. I'll have to keep an eye out for it at Target :)

[MermaidGirl]

I love this stuff! I use it almost every time I shampoo (occasionally I rotate in Biolage Conditioning Balm, also a moisturizer) and I shampoo with one of three Terax 'poos (Latte [a clarifier which is not harsh and which I LOVE], Collagene and Delicato - I want to try Miele, too!). I have fine, straight hair which right now is a low ii in thickness and Crema does not over condition or weigh my hair down, but does smooth it and make it combable.

[templeofvenus]

Is this conditioner available in the uk does anyone know? :)

[ktani]

Is this conditioner available in the uk does anyone know? :)

It is availabe online where you are (http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/hair-care-products/terax-crema-conditioner--200ml.asp)but you may find it at beauty supply stores as well, for a better price.

[goldenbrunette]

if only it was cheaper eh?

[Desdemona]

Yes, it's ridiculously expensive.

Thanks for the ingredient lists of the two formulas, ktani! Besides re-arranging the order of them, the ingredients look pretty similar, except they have taken out the SLS, which is probably a good thing. Back when I used it, I didn't even know SLS was so awful. The ingredients are quite different from most other conditioners, especially the tallowate.

It's funny how the reviews on MUA are all over the place, some love it, some hate it. It really is fantastic on bleached out, damaged hair though, which I used to have. I'm curious to see what it would do on my healthy, undamaged hair now.

[ktani]

Yes, it's ridiculously expensive.

Thanks for the ingredient lists of the two formulas, ktani! Besides re-arranging the order of them, the ingredients look pretty similar, except they have taken out the SLS, which is probably a good thing. Back when I used it, I didn't even know SLS was so awful. The ingredients are quite different from most other conditioners, especially the tallowate.

It's funny how the reviews on MUA are all over the place, some love it, some hate it. It really is fantastic on bleached out, damaged hair though, which I used to have. I'm curious to see what it would do on my healthy, undamaged hair now.

You are most welcome!

I researched it by phone, long ago. The two people who were partners at Terax, split up, and one started another company with similar product, under a different name. I was told that Crema is alkaline. It raises the cuticle, having an alkaline base, that allows the conditioning ingredients to get into the hair and then the alkaline ingredient, ammonia? is neutralized (I think I was told it evaporates?). That would be the triethanolamine. "Triethanolamine is produced by reacting ethylene oxide with aqueous ammonia" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triethanolamine) The pH is also why it does not contain protein. I was also told that it was (at the time) not designed to be used on the hair as a "daily" conditioner. It was so long ago. I bought some a few years ago but never used it and finally threw it out.

It is still alkaline "A slightly alkaline substance (http://www.adiscountbeauty.com/page222.html)".

The Terax website (http://www.teraxhaircare.com/terax_product_0806.pdf) lists all ingredients for their products.

[Desdemona]

Thanks for the info, ktani, that is so interesting! I had read that it lifted the cuticle so it was surprising how well it detangled my hair and made it silky. I only ever used it right after I highlighted my hair, never as a daily use kind of thing. It sounds like the new formula may be more for daily use though.

And thanks for the website, it looks like they have changed the formulas for their shampoos too, they no longer contain sulfates. I had a bottle of the original Miele shampoo and it was too harsh for me but I used up the whole thing because I loved the scent so much! I'm tempted to try the new one, except for all the parabens.

Do you happen to know the brand name of the products by the partner who spit off? Maybe they are cheaper!

[ktani]

Thanks for the info, ktani, that is so interesting! I had read that it lifted the cuticle so it was surprising how well it detangled my hair and made it silky. I only ever used it right after I highlighted my hair, never as a daily use kind of thing. It sounds like the new formula may be more for daily use though.

And thanks for the website, it looks like they have changed the formulas for their shampoos too, they no longer contain sulfates. I had a bottle of the original Miele shampoo and it was too harsh for me but I used up the whole thing because I loved the scent so much! I'm tempted to try the new one, except for all the parabens.

Do you happen to know the brand name of the products by the partner who spit off? Maybe they are cheaper!

It is availabe here at beauty supply stores and I just remembered the name. I could not think of it when I did that post, lol. Uans (http://uans.com/classic/condition.html).

[Desdemona]

Wow, the Crema sounds just like the Terax version! Have you tried it? Is it cheaper than Terax? I've never seen that brand down here.

[ktani]

My God, I remembered it right, lol. "While hair is drying, the formula neutralizes to a normal pH.... (http://uans.com/classic/condition.html)"

I think at the time, I was talking to the Uans partner. The products are almost the same but Uans does not list ingredients on that page or anywhere else on the site that I can see (I only took a quick look).

[ktani]

Wow, the Crema sounds just like the Terax version! Have you tried it? Is it cheaper than Terax? I've never seen that brand down here.

I am pretty sure they were the same product pretty much at some point but only one partner could keep the name. Uans is probably cheaper. It is not as well known. No, I chickened out. I do not use anything alkaline on my hair, lol. I threw out a tube of each, after testing them on my hands and keeping them for over a year or 2. I cannot remember the price difference.

[ktani]

The shampoos sound very similar too (http://uans.com/classic/cleanse.html).

There is this page for buying Uans but you will have to call or email for an ingredient list. (http://www.uans.com/buyUANS.aspx)

[Desdemona]

Yup, the shampoos have the same stuff too. Looking at their website, it's even more expensive than Terax. I'll just wait and hope Sally's comes up with a generic version!

I know what you mean, I did not believe that the Crema, being alkaline, would work for my hair but it was the only thing that could untangle it right after it had been highlighted. Maybe it was because it lifted the cuticle enough that it freed all the little shingles that were catching on each other? It was so weird how it became completely smooth when it dried though.

[ktani]

Yup, the shampoos have the same stuff too. Looking at their website, it's even more expensive than Terax. I'll just wait and hope Sally's comes up with a generic version!

I know what you mean, I did not believe that the Crema, being alkaline, would work for my hair but it was the only thing that could untangle it right after it had been highlighted. Maybe it was because it lifted the cuticle enough that it freed all the little shingles that were catching on each other? It was so weird how it became completely smooth when it dried though.

I know someone who used the daily Uans conditioner and loved it. Looking at the new Terax ingredient list (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showpost.php?p=524411&postcount=7), you have the standard conditioner emulsifying wax cetearyl alcohol, alcohol alcohol, triethanolamine and hydrogenated tallow glycerides.

I remember complimenting a long haired, bleached blonde on her hair years ago and asked what she conditioned with. The reply? Terax Crema. Then she said "My hair is so dry? I think that it can be over used and the waxy ingredients are not the best things for the hair. The lauryl alcohol is a constituent of coconut oil that penetrates hair.

I would just use coconut oil. It penetrates hair, and has been shown to help protect the hair against protein loss (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12715094&dopt=AbstractPlus). Plus, it is a lot cheaper and just a lot more hair friendly.

[Canarygirl]

I am pretty sure they were the same product pretty much at some point but only one partner could keep the name. Uans is probably cheaper. It is not as well known. No, I chickened out. I do not use anything alkaline on my hair, lol. I threw out a tube of each, after testing them on my hands and keeping them for over a year or 2. I cannot remember the price difference.

Ktani, so that means you would not use shampoo bars or Dairy Whip, right? Do you just use your preferred mild detergent-based shampoos then? And oil to condition? (Or was it catnip rinses?)

What observations do you have about your hair when you use alkaline products? Just curious and trying to learn

[ktani]

Ktani, so that means you would not use shampoo bars or Dairy Whip, right? Do you just use your preferred mild detergent-based shampoos then? And oil to condition? (Or was it catnip rinses?)

What observations do you have about your hair when you use alkaline products? Just curious and trying to learn

DW is pH neutral or 7.

I disagree with the principle of using something alkaline on hair or skin or something with a higher pH like 7. I do not rule out the possibility of trying something like DW though. On the hair, anything alkaline, opens the cuticle further than most waters (which also open cuticles, how much depending on the pH) and then having to use something acidic to close the cuticles of the hair back down again. I use an acidic shampoo and catnip, which is acidic. Both keep my hair within the range that is considered to be the best for hair and skin.

I have used alkaline substances on my hair in the past. They tend to make my hair tangle more (open cuticles) but if an acidic rinse is used right after, for example a shampoo bar, the cuticles get closed right away. I just feel that it is more stress on the hair than is necessary, to use something alkaline or something not within the acid mantle range of about pH 5. The acid mantle range for people can vary but it is about 4.5 to 5.5 to 6. According to this (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18489300), the average is 4.7.

[Canarygirl]

Thanks, Ktani. Which of the Sunsilk shampoos do you like? I notice that some of them list silicone as a key ingredient.

[ktani]

Thanks, Ktani. Which of the Sunsilk shampoos do you like? I notice that some of them list silicone as a key ingredient.

You are most welcome! I use Lively Blonde (http://www.unilever.com/PIOTI/IT/p4.asp?selectCountry=IT&language=IT&productid=2042515). I order it from here (http://www.britsuperstore.com/acatalog/Sunsilk.html) (it is not available in North America). It only has one cone, that has never built-up on my hair or given me problems. They added every conceivable paraben to it in 2006, but they also improved the formula. I only use catnip as my colour/conditioner, so I consider the shampoo a compromise, but I do refer to it as "chemical soup", lol.