Karenlynn knot vs. celtic knot question

[Amara]

I'm confused about the difference between these two.

I have followed KL instructions and can successfully do this. You make a loop around two fingers, then wrap the length all the way clockwise around the base of loop, and then pull the length through. Wrap the length around or leave it hanging loose.

With the celtic knot, you wrap the hair around without making a loop first, (wrapping makes a loop of course), and then pull only PART of the length through, so you really end up with two loops. I go counterclockwise with this.

Am I picking up the difference? The KL knot, because of the loop-wrap, eats up more length.

Am I making sense?

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confused in bunland

[OhioLisa]

You're absolutely right. One is clockwise, the other is counter, and the KL knot has one less loop. Right-o. :D

[HotRag]

What's the difference between celtic knot and double looped knot?

I can't do either of them yet, still to short hair for this. Celtic knot looks lovely.

[OhioLisa]

What's the difference between celtic knot and double looped knot?

I can't do either of them yet, still to short hair for this. Celtic knot looks lovely.

They're basically the same thing.

[KatKeRo]

What's the difference between celtic knot and double looped knot?

I can't do either of them yet, still to short hair for this. Celtic knot looks lovely.

They look the same only the wrapping is differently done.

[Bene]

when my hair is long enough to try them, in about a bah-zillion years, i'll try to have an answer for you :(

[frizzinator]

The Karen Lynn knot can be done with shorter hair.


The left-over hair is wrapped around the base of the Celtic knot, and in my opinion the celtic knot requires longer hair than the Karen Lynn knot.


I think the Karen Lynn knot looks like a round knot, and the Celtic knot looks like the crochet chain stitch.


Here is a photo of the Karen Lynn Knot

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee178/frizzliz/42208.jpg


Here is a photo of the Celtic Knot, although I think I must have flipped this one in order to tighten it up

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee178/frizzliz/41608044.jpg

[KatKeRo]

I could do the KarenLynnknot when I had just over BSL hair.
For the Celtic Knot I have just enough hair and I'm at tailbone now.
The double looped knot I could do from waistlenght hair.

[Bene]

i just went and tried the karen lynn knot... i'm gonna need maybe another 2 or 3 inches before i can get it down

[frizzinator]

KatKeRo, will you describe the difference between the Celtic knot and the double-loop knot?

[darkwaves]

The Karen Lynn knot can be done with shorter hair. Lovely pictures!

And, sigh, here I am beyond waistlength, and my hair is not long enough for either. By the time it gets wrapped, there's not enough to go through either way.

Next year...

[Anje]

In rope-knot terms, a KL knot is a figure-8 knot. A celtic knot is an overhand knot with a draw loop, and a bunnytail is just an overhand knot.

I don't know if that makes sense to anyone but me, though.

[Amara]

I think these are hard cause they come out looking slightly different on everyone (even on the same person on different days) so visually they're weird. All gorgeous, though. I think I can make one, and then the other, I'll just keep practicing to keep them straight.

I agree that the KL knot takes less hair.

[Mugili]

So I always think I do a celtic knot...know I see its a KL.
Has somebody a good video instrustion of the celtic knot?

[Juanita]

Raederle has loverly Karen Lynn Knot variations in her photo album. More than 20

[WaitingSoLong]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEtHr-EeBy8

This is the video I used to learn, but I always thought a double loop and cetic were the same.

[Mugili]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEtHr-EeBy8

This is the video I used to learn, but I always thought a double loop and cetic were the same.


I really don't know, because like in this video I always do my celtic bun.
I'm confused. :confused:

[Natalia]

I'm confused about the difference between these two.

I have followed KL instructions and can successfully do this. You make a loop around two fingers, then wrap the length all the way clockwise around the base of loop, and then pull the length through. Wrap the length around or leave it hanging loose.

With the celtic knot, you wrap the hair around without making a loop first, (wrapping makes a loop of course), and then pull only PART of the length through, so you really end up with two loops. I go counterclockwise with this.

Am I picking up the difference? The KL knot, because of the loop-wrap, eats up more length.

Am I making sense?

...

confused in bunland

Never tried a celtic but i adore the KL. It was my first hairstyle goal :D. So beautiful (little swoon) cant wait till my layers grow out more and i can make it look propper :). Are there any videos of the celtic around?

[Carolyn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEtHr-EeBy8

This is the video I used to learn, but I always thought a double loop and cetic were the same.Thank you for the link :flowers: I can't follow written instructions. I need to see it to do it.

[KarenLynn]

The link Waitingsolong put up is how I learned to do the double-looped knot from Twitch's original picture instructions. It is, as far as I know, the same style that's also known as a celtic knot.

The KL knot has two differences from the double-looped knot. It wraps the other way, clockwise as opposed to counter-clockwise, and the length is pulled through the loop and wrapped around instead of creating the second loop that I guess has given the double-looped knot its name.

It doesn't look like I ever put the tutorial for the KL knot up on youtube, but you can find it in the articles section if you want to compare the two. The original version is here (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=29) (text and pictures only) and the version for longer hair here (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=30) (video link at the end of the article). Hope that helps.

[jasper]

In rope-knot terms, a KL knot is a figure-8 knot. A celtic knot is an overhand knot with a draw loop, and a bunnytail is just an overhand knot.

I don't know if that makes sense to anyone but me, though.

Thanks. I think calling them what they are in terms of names of knots vs. names of hair styles makes them easier for me to understand.

[AmaryllisRed]

Zombie thread! Anyone have info on the KarenLynn knot?

Edit: sort of found it. https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=133703
^link for the curious

[zmirina]

Zombie thread! Anyone have info on the KarenLynn knot?

Edit: sort of found it. https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=133703
^link for the curious

i love going through zombie threads

[CopperButterfly]

So after reading the tutorial linked above, I feel like it's a version of the Viking ribbon knot that's at the beginning of this video. https://youtu.be/Jj1mPtlmTZU
Does that seem accurate?