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Heidi_234
December 20th, 2008, 11:09 AM
No chemical relaxer, no blow drying, no flat-ironing, no styling products (unless you what to use some), just less than 10 bobby pins and you have your curly hair relaxed and long!
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The basic idea is that hair would acquire the form it was air dried into. It depends on your hair type, but mostly damp braids would result in braid waves, rope braid would give cork screw curls (curlier types form in those better as much as I know), and so on. So the idea is to air dry your hair as straight as possible, so when itís dry itís going to be straight.

This wrapping idea came to me very suddenly, that light bulb near my head just lit up and I knew how it could be done. Wrapping your hair straight around your head like a crown braid and leave it to air dry, would provide the needed straight position, and would be comfortable for you.

I'm not sure which hair types respond best to this, I'm 2c/3a (or at least I think I am) and it works for me. I'm also not sure about the length, I'm BSL/waist-ish. I think beyond APL would do.
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So hereís the system I worked out:
For the sake of this guide I invited this Barbie to model, sheís got great 1a hair but was still willing to help and show how to make your hair straight (Is it that wrong to envy your baby sis old Barbieís hair?:lol:). Iím sorry the pictures are not that easy to understand, but they are better than just words alone.

After the shower, when youíre done with your hair (after-shower oiling or anything else you might do), divide it as youíre going to do 2 ponytails and let it hang on both sides of your head. Finger comb or comb it so later on it would be easier to work with. Make sure you hairís straight while you wait until it would become damp instead of wet. If curls are forming, straighten them with your fingers.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr132/Heidi_2345/1.jpg
Wait until your hair is fairly damp, but not too much, because it doesnít dry very easily in the crown wrap. But also not too dry, because then itís already too late to air-dry-style it.

Take the section of your hair on top, which contains hair of the top most later, the canopy that overlaps on the rest. Hold it with a clip where it wonít interfere. Itís not a must do, but youíll see that the crown wrap creates this ripple near the nape and youíll wish to cover over it with straight layer of hair to mask it.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr132/Heidi_2345/2.jpg

Take both parts of your hair in both hands and cross them. Then cross them again (in the same direction). This way, both part hold each other at the nape of your head, and make sure all the hairs from either section wonít escape. I marked the right part with orange anf the left with purple to make it easier for you to understand where each one goes in the pic.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr132/Heidi_2345/3.jpg

Take the right part, and wrap in around your head coming from the right (the way youíll place crown braid). Donít pull it, as the left side is still unsecured and would be pulled along with it. The twist on the back should preferably remain in the middle. Take two bobby pins and secure the part, about 2 inches from the ends and also in the middle of the strand or 2 inches from shorter ends if youíve got layers. No need for too much bobby pins as overlapping strands would need to be secured as well and the bobby pins would grab the first one as well.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr132/Heidi_2345/4.jpg

Take the left part of your hair and wrap it around your head in the other direction. Make sure to tuck the ends of the right part underneath the left so that they will remain straight on the head. Secure the left part just like you did the right.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr132/Heidi_2345/5.jpg

Now take off the clip with the top layer hair. As you see, we didnít put it into the crown wrap with the rest of the hair so that we wonít have to twist it on the nape and get the ripple.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr132/Heidi_2345/6.jpg

Take the right half, and bring it under the twist and then around you head along with the rest. Secure it with bobby pins, on the ends and also one behind the ear or nearer the nape so that the strand wonít escape from under the twist and get messed up. Do the same with the left half.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr132/Heidi_2345/7.jpg

Here, you've completed your crown wrap.
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr132/Heidi_2345/8.jpg

I found that there was no need for more bobby pins, as everything was secured quite well. Well enough to sleep in this crown wrap without it getting undone. You can also wrap a silk scarf around the head or sleeping cap for your beauty sleep, it probably would do good.

If youíre not doing it right before bed, itís okay too. When you feel that the length and ends have dried take all the bobby pins out and put your hair down. Youíll see that the area where the twist holds the parts does not dry well. Air the damp hairs and run your fingers through them. Donít leave it down too long, as it might curl and dry like that. Redo the crown wrap, and go about your business again. Airing the damp part once in a while like this would speed the drying process without the hair curling.

Eventually your hair would dry and leave just the smallest hint of dampness, which is a great opportunity to oil it and seal the moisture in. If you wish to put styling product of any kind that you know would preserve its straight state, do it.
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I wonít say it would flatter your hair, but itís great if you want to take length shot, or youíre tired of the curls and wish to be care free for at least the next shower, or just want to enjoy your actual length that is hidden in the curls usually. It does not make your hair really straight, shiny flowing straight, it makes it appear relaxed. It is definitely better than blow frying, and not that hard to do at all.

This method is by no means perfect, I only did it a couple of times so thereís still quite a lot to perfect. The hair near the nape might still be somewhat rippled, but for the most part itís relaxed and straight. I would be more than happy to see how it goes for you, and if youíve got suggestions to make the result even better, please do post them! Any feedback would be great. :flower:

P.S. Excuse me if my English is little bad, I'm not a native speaker. I won't be offended if you correct me, I welcome it!

PurpleAshes
December 20th, 2008, 11:21 AM
Hehehe, Here in Dominican Republic, most of the population do something that looks a lot like like that, the differences are that:
1) We wrap all of the hair in the same direction, including the nape, and without doig that twist in the middle.
2) We use it AFTER blowdriying, so that it stays straight and doesnt get frizzy.

It had never ocurred to me that it could be done with damp hair to achieve straighted hair :D
We call it Tubi (toobie)

BTW, where are you from?

Heidi_234
December 20th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Hehehe, Here in Dominican Republic, most of the population do something that looks a lot like like that, the differences are that:
1) We wrap all of the hair in the same direction, including the nape, and without doig that twist in the middle.
2) We use it AFTER blowdriying, so that it stays straight and doesnt get frizzy.

It had never ocurred to me that it could be done with damp hair to achieve straighted hair :D
We call it Tubi (toobie)

Oh, really? Interesting! :grin:
I wonder how can one wrap it all in the same direction. Can you tell how does it goes? It might be better than my twist thing.

Sissy
December 20th, 2008, 11:36 AM
Wow, I appreciate your taking the time to post all this. I am going to print it out and take the pictures to my sister and have her and my husband help me figure out how to do it. I'm sure your directions are great but you're talking to a girl who have never even braided her hair so when it comes to doing any sort of updo I'm a complete incompetent. LOL, I hope to learn a lot here and have high hopes of trying some updos (with the help of my sis) while visiting family for Christmas. I'll let you know how it goes for me.

PurpleAshes
December 20th, 2008, 11:36 AM
First, you do a part (wherever you want, and it generally depends where you want your part to be when its down, for example, when I blowdryed I did mine on the right side) that goes all the way from the nape to the end of hairline (I dont know how to call that xD).
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/PurpleAshesLP/P1120576.jpg

Then you start wrapping carefully using a brush and a bunch of bobby pins,
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/PurpleAshesLP/P1120577.jpg

specially at the nape (to keep the hair near to the head and avoid a little tornado thing xD), and at the bottom (so that the hair doesnt fall out).
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/PurpleAshesLP/P1120578.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/PurpleAshesLP/P1120579.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/PurpleAshesLP/P1120580.jpg

Here I am wrapping counter clockwise.

You keep wrapping the hair around,
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/PurpleAshesLP/P1120581.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/PurpleAshesLP/P1120582.jpg

and when you reach a part that already has a layer of hair under it, you can take out the pin that it had and put it to hold both layers.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/PurpleAshesLP/P1120583.jpg

Here, it's finished:
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/PurpleAshesLP/P1120584.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c38/PurpleAshesLP/P1120585.jpg

At first it's a bit tricky, but with practice it gets better, and once you know how to do it right, you'll have to use very few bobby pins. I used to use like 6 for myself (thats my mom ).

Heidi_234
December 20th, 2008, 12:06 PM
Wow, I appreciate your taking the time to post all this. I am going to print it out and take the pictures to my sister and have her and my husband help me figure out how to do it. I'm sure your directions are great but you're talking to a girl who have never even braided her hair so when it comes to doing any sort of updo I'm a complete incompetent. LOL, I hope to learn a lot here and have high hopes of trying some updos (with the help of my sis) while visiting family for Christmas. I'll let you know how it goes for me.
It's really easy! You just need to figure out where each strand goes and then secure it with bobby pins, and i hope I was clear enough explaining that. :o

First, you do a part (wherever you want, and it generally depends where you want your part to be when its down, for example, when I blowdryed I did mine on the right side) that goes all the way from the nape to the end of hairline (I dont know how to call that xD).

Then you start wrapping carefully using a bunch of bobby pins, specially at the nape (to keep the hair near to the head and avoid a little tornado thing xD), and at the bottom (so that the hair doesnt fall out).

You keep wrapping the hair around, and when you reach a part that already has a layer of hair under it, you can take out the pin that it had and put it to hold both layers.

At first it's a bit tricky, but with practice it gets better, and once you know how to do it right, you'll have to use very few bobby pins. I used like 6. Maybe I'll convince my mom to let me do one to her so that I can take pics.
I searched the net, for some reason it's more known as 'Doobie'
I found this one video:
http://www.expertvillage.com/video/7541_black-hair-dry-wrap.htm
It shows quite well how to do it, but will it be good for long hair? BSL is quite long compared to the girl's hair. I'm going to try wrapping it tonight, see what comes out.
There are also this (http://www.ehow.com/how_4499801_wrap-hair-doobie.html), this (http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11119&PN=4)and this (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070329180738AAvLORF), additional instruction, pretty much say what you've said.

Buddaphlyy
December 20th, 2008, 12:18 PM
I used to wrap daily when I was relaxed. It would never work on my hair now though. Check out Youtube for a lady named Ateya. She has really good wet and dry wrapping videos.

BTW, if you can truly wrap, it doesn't matter the length of your hair.

PurpleAshes
December 20th, 2008, 12:20 PM
It's really easy! You just need to figure out where each strand goes and then secure it with bobby pins, and i hope I was clear enough explaining that. :o

I searched the net, for some reason it's more known as 'Doobie'
I found this one video:
http://www.expertvillage.com/video/7541_black-hair-dry-wrap.htm
It shows quite well how to do it, but will it be good for long hair? BSL is quite long compared to the girl's hair. I'm going to try wrapping it tonight, see what comes out.
There are also this (http://www.ehow.com/how_4499801_wrap-hair-doobie.html), this (http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=11119&PN=4)and this (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070329180738AAvLORF), additional instruction, pretty much say what you've said.

Yeah, it works on every lenght. When I used to do it, I had BSL and at one time it was longer.
The only difference is that you get to wrap several times :)

Heidi_234
December 20th, 2008, 12:42 PM
I used to wrap daily when I was relaxed. It would never work on my hair now though. Check out Youtube for a lady named Ateya. She has really good wet and dry wrapping videos.

BTW, if you can truly wrap, it doesn't matter the length of your hair.
I wish I knew about the wrap before!! :grin:
I found the video you talked about, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Am-8RbpiSk
She started from the right side, doesn't make the hair on the left side go the wrong way?

PurpleAshes, thank so so much for adding photos to your instructions! I'm beginning to understand how it's done. The excessive brushing I've seen in the videos so far puts me off a little bit, I've thrown my brush to make sure I've got hair remaining on my head, I'll try to comb it maybe, see how that works.

PurpleAshes
December 20th, 2008, 12:51 PM
PurpleAshes, thank so so much for adding photos to your instructions! I'm beginning to understand how it's done. The excessive brushing I've seen in the videos so far puts me off a little bit, I've thrown my brush to make sure I've got hair remaining on my head, I'll try comb it maybe, see how that works.

You're welcome :)
You can do it with a comb, just use your hands a lot to make sure the hair is straightened and very close to the head. In fact, I barely used the brush to make my mom's tubi.

Heidi_234
December 20th, 2008, 01:03 PM
You're welcome :)
You can do it with a comb, just use your hands a lot to make sure the hair is straightened and very close to the head. In fact, I barely used the brush to make my mom's tubi.
Okay great thank you! I will try this tonight :)

PurpleAshes
December 20th, 2008, 01:19 PM
I just showed this thread to my mom and she says that people used to do their tubies like you did when she was young, and that some people still use that method. :D

Heidi_234
December 20th, 2008, 01:31 PM
I just showed this thread to my mom and she says that people used to do their tubies like you did when she was young, and that some people still use that method. :D
That's so neat :D
"My" method is very very easy.
I knew there should be something out there, but I guess I had to find something that works for me to share here and only then find out other great methods. I invented the cycle lol :p

Buddaphlyy
December 20th, 2008, 04:24 PM
I wish I knew about the wrap before!! :grin:
I found the video you talked about, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Am-8RbpiSk
She started from the right side, doesn't make the hair on the left side go the wrong way?



No, a wrap is a wrap. If it's done correctly then your hair should fall down straight regardless of where you part or the direction you wrap the hair in.

Sissy
December 27th, 2008, 04:17 PM
I have tried Heidi's method and it did work. Here are some pictures:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2161&pictureid=27953

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2161&pictureid=27954

It definitely made it more relaxed that air drying, which can be seen here:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2161&pictureid=26007

I realise my hair is uneven and in severe need of a trim :blushing: I'm getting one soon!

Heidi_234
December 27th, 2008, 04:26 PM
Thanks Sissy for the pics!
And if we are on the matter -
Here are my curls:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=1927&pictureid=27081
And here's my relaxed hair on day two:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=1927&pictureid=27630

Copasetic
December 27th, 2008, 04:50 PM
I think I will give this a shot tonight, or tomorrow night. I will take pics of the results.
I hope I do it right!

renarok
December 27th, 2008, 04:51 PM
I learned this method of straightening hair back in 1973....... Doesn't that make me old? My aunt from Chile (S.A.) taught us this when long straight hair was so popular. It works great except my hair would 'hurt' when I combed it out. I should say my scalp was extra tender where i would part it against the direction it was dried in. It does work well if you are very careful and use Lots of pins .

30isthenewblack
December 27th, 2008, 04:56 PM
That's so neat :D
"My" method is very very easy.
I knew there should be something out there, but I guess I had to find something that works for me to share here and only then find out other great methods. I invented the cycle lol :p

You invented the cycle haha. You're very funny and your English is very good :)

Sissy
December 27th, 2008, 09:59 PM
Thanks Sissy for the pics!
And if we are on the matter -
Here are my curls:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=1927&pictureid=27081
And here's my relaxed hair on day two:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=1927&pictureid=27630

wow, you got very good results! Your hair is nie!

This is how mine looks today after SMT and allowing to air dry. Perhaps I should just let it go like this and not try to make it straighter LOL as I still end up with some waves after attempting to straighten anyhow.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2161&pictureid=27972

Rose J.
December 28th, 2008, 05:55 PM
That's a good idea! I've been wanting to try to make my hair straighter, every once in a while, so I'll try this soon! :)

plainjanegirl
December 28th, 2008, 06:22 PM
I have tried Heidi's method and it did work. Here are some pictures:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2161&pictureid=27953

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2161&pictureid=27954

It definitely made it more relaxed that air drying, which can be seen here:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=2161&pictureid=26007

I realise my hair is uneven and in severe need of a trim :blushing: I'm getting one soon!



I think your hair looks better just air dried. But either way very nice hair.

plainjanegirl
December 28th, 2008, 06:23 PM
Sissy - When you let your hair air dry do you comb it while wet before letting it dry?

Heidi_234
December 29th, 2008, 01:14 AM
I think your hair looks better just air dried. But either way very nice hair.
I second that actually.
I said the original post that it doesn't flatter hair, but it does make it look relaxed. But better this than any heat styling or chemical relaxing IMO.

talecon
December 29th, 2008, 01:44 AM
oh in my family they call it a dubi (I don't know how to spell it but its pronounced doobie) I've never tried it before. but I will try it instead of straightening my hair with a straightening iron. I have really think hair so I'm pretty sure it'll work. after I wash my hair whenever we get hot water back in the house (a pipe broke in the basement today) I'm going to give it a try and if it works out well I'll post pics.
but then again, now that I think about it, I have no bobby pins, I'll try to do it without and just wrap a scarf around it

talecon
December 29th, 2008, 01:45 AM
really thin* hair (I can't edit my post yet, sorry)

Rose J.
December 29th, 2008, 06:53 PM
Here's my attempt at it:

After wrapping:
http://i39.tinypic.com/fekhma.jpg

Normal day:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2qs88es.jpg





After I took it out from being wrapped, it was frizzy and poofy (actually poofier than this picture shows), so it doesn't seem to work for me. If I was going to straighten my hair with a flat iron, though, this might be worth doing to make my hair easier to work through. :)

Heidi_234
December 30th, 2008, 02:59 AM
Here's my attempt at it:

After wrapping:
http://i39.tinypic.com/fekhma.jpg

Normal day:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2qs88es.jpg





After I took it out from being wrapped, it was frizzy and poofy (actually poofier than this picture shows), so it doesn't seem to work for me. If I was going to straighten my hair with a flat iron, though, this might be worth doing to make my hair easier to work through. :)
Yeah I can see that. Maybe you took it out before it was 100% dry? It does take ages to dry, and usually the nape area remains little damp at the end. The ends, which are secured above your forehead, should be completely dry.

Just_Isabel
December 30th, 2008, 01:15 PM
My mother taught me something very similar, but instead of pins she used to use the foot part of a cut pantyhose. :D

But the pins do look easier than the pantyhose - it's hard to get all of your hair in if you don't have anything to help hold them while you get the tight-ish pantyhose on.

Results on my hair were meh... :lol: But it's been years since I've trying wrapping my hair like that, and we usually used it in combination with a blow drier - makes the whole thing faster.

Oh! And my mother used to wrap the hair in one direction, and after a while, she'd redo it in the other direction.


The pin method does look easier, but I thought I'd write about another alternative, too. :)

PHOENIX MOON
December 30th, 2008, 01:31 PM
Hey,
I do a less fancy form of a crown wrap to make my hair wavey. I am a uber curly hair!

1. Form an all in ponytail with the index finger and thumb of one hand.
2. With the other hand gently grip the hair and twist it round until you reach near the tips (the hair should remain together when you remove your index finger and thumb).
3. Bring your twisted hair round itself.
4. Then push the end through the loop and pull until loop tightens around your own hair.
5. If you have a lot of ends left over either redo steps 1-4, or redo step 4 on its own until the tips disapear.

This is great for keeping hair out of your face, allowing oil to sink in and for making curly hair straighter. I usually go to work with my hair in one big plait (secured only at the end with a ribbon plaited in and tied at the end) then I do steps 3-5.

WritingPrincess
December 30th, 2008, 01:38 PM
I second that actually.
I said the original post that it doesn't flatter hair, but it does make it look relaxed. But better this than any heat styling or chemical relaxing IMO.
I think the word you're looking for is "flatten". Am I right? Your English is quite good, Heidi.

Heidi_234
December 30th, 2008, 02:10 PM
I think the word you're looking for is "flatten". Am I right? Your English is quite good, Heidi.
No, I did meant flatter, as in 'compliment'.
Thank you. :flower:

WritingPrincess
December 30th, 2008, 04:20 PM
Oh, ok. Thanks for the clarification!

Sissy
January 9th, 2009, 04:42 PM
Sissy - When you let your hair air dry do you comb it while wet before letting it dry?

Hi Plainjanegirl!

I comb my hair while wet. :) Thank you very much for the air drying opinion... lately I have been air drying, just because I was too lazy to do the crown wrap and it took my hair SOOO long to dry while in the crown wrap that I got impatient and took it down while still a tad damp... so, perhaps my results of Heidi's crown wrap weren't as good or smooth as they could have been if I would have been more patient and allowed for a complete air dry while in crown wrap.

SimplyLonghair
January 9th, 2009, 05:22 PM
My sister used to use mega curlers to get straight hair..... The size of cans she would pin the hair up and let it dry. It did a good job, even though she had major curly hair. We didn't use hair dryers just air dried it and it worked okay.:D Just another method to try...:rolleyes:

Sissy
January 9th, 2009, 05:34 PM
My sister used to use mega curlers to get straight hair..... The size of cans she would pin the hair up and let it dry. It did a good job, even though she had major curly hair. We didn't use hair dryers just air dried it and it worked okay.:D Just another method to try...:rolleyes:

Actually, this has been suggested to me before and I'm actually interested in trying it. Thanks!

tessatriskel
June 29th, 2011, 04:20 AM
Very well explained Heidi!! Thank you so much!!
I've never been able to do it due to poor explanations and poor manual skills... I find your way of wrapping hair the easiest!

darkrose
June 29th, 2011, 09:34 AM
oh wow!!! i was just trying to find out how to straighten my hair without heat, im going to try this on friday.:)

Galdr
December 3rd, 2011, 05:20 AM
wow, i'm gonna try this today :)

Rilig
January 3rd, 2012, 07:50 AM
I just tried the wrap-around-the-head method and I was able to tweek it to work for me. The results were pretty good, and will be better once I get the hang of it. It's weird, though; My right side is fine, but my left is still a little curly. Meh, I figure it out.