Grey Ombre

[LadyEliza]

I really don't like the brown at the end of my hair. Hair dresser has streaked it to try to blend it with my going grey roots, but it doesn't really work.
https://www.elizasart.com/misc/hair1_1_21.jpg

I'd like to get the brown bits dyed grey like this

https://i.etsystatic.com/6266617/r/il/cf44af/898941995/il_794xN.898941995_6vl3.jpg

But it would involve bleaching first and there is a long lot of brown that would have to be bleached.

The hair dresser is very good and would not damage my hair, but I'm very on the fence about it. I wish the brown would just go away!!! (the brown is from a home dye job and was much darker).

I didn't want to commit to anything until I spoke to other long hair ladies.

Thanks :)

[Bat]

You'd be better to find a Color toner they netrualizes golden tones so you'd have more of a silvery brown, bleach will damage no Matter how good a hairdresser is,

Still it is a lot of work up keeping artificial silver hair

[lapushka]

You'd be better to find a Color toner they netrualizes golden tones so you'd have more of a silvery brown, bleach will damage no Matter how good a hairdresser is,

Still it is a lot of work up keeping artificial silver hair

True, very true. It is the absolute worst. It's like doing roots every month, for sure, and I don't know that in these pandemic times that is a reality (access to hairdressers). On top of that, for it to go gray, it needs to be the lightest blonde (so a lot of bleach from brown) in order to tone it gray. Might not even be possible in 1 sitting, if even 2. Did your hairdresser mention that? Because that is need to know!

I would maybe ask the hairdresser to color your hair as close to your natural color as possible, and do that? Or is that a no-go?

[milosmomma]

Your hair is amazing right now! It has awesome shine. However I do understand being unhappy with your hair and needing a change. I agree that bleach will always cause some damage, but it can be cared for and just as shiny as beautiful as your current hair. The other thing I am thinking about is how bleach reacts differently when used on dyed vs virgin hair, as bat said maybe a toner would be a better option. Either way I would love to see how it comes out in the end :D

[Bat]

What Lapushka said you'd have to be a level 9-10 to get silver like that a level 7-8 might give you a very dark slate Color

[Obsidian]

Before commenting to bleach, ask your hairdresser of its possible to tone to a dark ashy color.
Going that silver will be damaging, no matter what your hair dresser says and you will need to retone periodically to keep away brassy tones

[Crystawni]

I really don't like the brown at the end of my hair. Hair dresser has streaked it to try to blend it with my going grey roots, but it doesn't really work.
https://www.elizasart.com/misc/hair1_1_21.jpg

I'd like to get the brown bits dyed grey like this

https://i.etsystatic.com/6266617/r/il/cf44af/898941995/il_794xN.898941995_6vl3.jpg

But it would involve bleaching first and there is a long lot of brown that would have to be bleached.

The hair dresser is very good and would not damage my hair, but I'm very on the fence about it. I wish the brown would just go away!!! (the brown is from a home dye job and was much darker).

I didn't want to commit to anything until I spoke to other long hair ladies.

Thanks :)

I've seen longhairs dip/bleach the ends, but they consider them cutaways (will be snipped off eventually). So if it's only the last few inches of brown that's worrying you, and you're okay with them being "throwaways", then yeah, you could bleach them. BUT, as mentioned, you'd have to go many levels to remove the brown, and that's a lot of potential damage to deal with in the long run. And if you're looking at blending with the brown and golden streaky bits above it (very fiddly--especially if you're totally removing all the brown) I don't think you'd get quite the grey/white you're after. There's often an element of yellow that remains (been there, done that--my natural whites and silvers are waaaaay lighter, brighter and shinier than any bleach I've seen or used).

I reckon your hair will grow out with a unique ombre as it is! The ashy tones up top will blend while playing havoc with the golden ones, and the end brown colour will fade (and probably be snipped away over time) but it all makes for a really cool mix in the end.

[Bat]

The only other solution is cutting off the worst of the Color but your hair is gorgeous, it needs to be long for sure

[LadyEliza]

Thank you everyone - you have talked me out of it :)

I haven't spoken to my hair dresser yet, so I'll ask her about a toner.

[SleepyTangles]

I'd suggest you trying a silver-grey deposit dye or a purple conditioner to get a cooler shade. The base is not really light enough to get silver, but an ashier blonde shouldn't be difficult. It would wash away and require some upkeep, but on the other side it won't damage the hair and be fairly non-committal.

I'd do a strand test, anyway, just to be extra safe. Some dyes fade on the bluish side, which may go green over a golden base. Which leads me to say... I don't recommend Pravana Silver, which is really bluish and requires a super white base.
Actually a purple conditioner may be easier to handle, for these undertones reasons..

[knobbly]

Humm. This topic makes me think that we should have a thread for blue/purple shampoo/conditioner/treatments for longhairs (if there isn’t one already that is.) I know I’m not the only one who has dark hair that lightens to an annoyingly brassy reddish brown in the sun, and just with age of hair as well (I don’t spend very much time in the sun at all, but the ends of my hair are 5+ years old at this point, and they’re only going to get older as I grow longer.)

Adding the above to the fact that I’m going grey and don’t want those lovely grey strands to get yellow over time, it stands to reason that I should probably begin to sub a toning conditioner for those I currently use.

Is there a thread for this already off the top of anyone’s head? Or should I start one?

[Feral_]

Humm. This topic makes me think that we should have a thread for blue/purple shampoo/conditioner/treatments for longhairs (if there isn’t one already that is.) I know I’m not the only one who has dark hair that lightens to an annoyingly brassy reddish brown in the sun, and just with age of hair as well (I don’t spend very much time in the sun at all, but the ends of my hair are 5+ years old at this point, and they’re only going to get older as I grow longer.)

Adding the above to the fact that I’m going grey and don’t want those lovely grey strands to get yellow over time, it stands to reason that I should probably begin to sub a toning conditioner for those I currently use.

Is there a thread for this already off the top of anyone’s head? Or should I start one?

That’s a good idea Knobbly. Mine is many shades of brown and auburn from being outside. I wear hats, but before LHC I just had it loose under the hat. I’ve silvers coming in now and since going SO the roots are darker. I really hope my grey doesn’t turn yellow, I’ve enough colours going on without that!

[Bat]

Humm. This topic makes me think that we should have a thread for blue/purple shampoo/conditioner/treatments for longhairs (if there isn’t one already that is.) I know I’m not the only one who has dark hair that lightens to an annoyingly brassy reddish brown in the sun, and just with age of hair as well (I don’t spend very much time in the sun at all, but the ends of my hair are 5+ years old at this point, and they’re only going to get older as I grow longer.)

Adding the above to the fact that I’m going grey and don’t want those lovely grey strands to get yellow over time, it stands to reason that I should probably begin to sub a toning conditioner for those I currently use.

Is there a thread for this already off the top of anyone’s head? Or should I start one?

I made a deposit dye club but I don't think there is one for toners yet

[LadyEliza]

I'm guessing "deposit dye" is a wash off temp dye? I'm afraid that the bleached streaks in the brown will grab it. But anyway - can anyone recommend the best of the best of these deposit dyes and why they are the best? Thanks

[GordonMurphella]

When growing out my silver I used Keracolor in Platinum. You're never going to completely neutralize the brass, imho, but it did help me. It's expensive, but it's incredible stuff. Don't use the grey, use the platinum.

[knobbly]

Humm. This topic makes me think that we should have a thread for blue/purple shampoo/conditioner/treatments for longhairs (if there isn’t one already that is.) I know I’m not the only one who has dark hair that lightens to an annoyingly brassy reddish brown in the sun, and just with age of hair as well (I don’t spend very much time in the sun at all, but the ends of my hair are 5+ years old at this point, and they’re only going to get older as I grow longer.)

Adding the above to the fact that I’m going grey and don’t want those lovely grey strands to get yellow over time, it stands to reason that I should probably begin to sub a toning conditioner for those I currently use.

Is there a thread for this already off the top of anyone’s head? Or should I start one?

Okay I started the thread if anyone has any input!

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=153681&p=3853553#post3853553