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Fimu
July 9th, 2020, 05:01 AM
I have discovered a possible correlation between *naturally* split-end-prone hair and iron deficiency anemia by asking around in forums, but I wonder if there are also cases of people who have (had) anemia yet were still able to gain very long hair without too many splits or thinned out ends or odd gaps in their hemline (like the inverted V).

shelomit
July 9th, 2020, 07:59 AM
Not anemia, but I have nonreactive hypoglycemia. I still don't know the root cause, but am informed it's most likely some kind of thyroid disorder. I got the diagnosis about two years ago. At that point, I changed my diet and eating habits pretty radically and the symptoms have decreased. Before I knew what the heck was happening to me, though, I had constant deficiencies in protein, vitamin D, and magnesium, in addition to the low blood sugar. (I still struggle with the magnesium levels now--my body doesn't seem to retain it as well as it should, and the doctor's still stumped as to what's going on there.)

Throughout all that, I've had hair that waffles between waist and mid-thigh. The ends are thin, and I do have splits, but I wouldn't characterize either as excessive or unusual. No gaps in the hemline.

MusicalSpoons
July 9th, 2020, 09:20 AM
Not *deficiencies* but my haemoglobin is always on the bottom threshold between normal and too low, even with iron supplements, and ferritin suboptimal (~30). My Vitamin D was suboptimal for years so I've taken supplements for that for the past 4? years (not sure where it is now because the lab refused the test last time). My thyroid again is meh but in the 'normal' range (TSH around 4 instead of under 2).

My ends are thin but I wouldn't say excessively so for calf-length, and yes I have splits (including mid-shaft) but again I wouldn't say an excessive amount. I discovered LHC 3 1/2 years ago so all the hair that grew before then was less well-cared for, especially the ends heading for 9yrs old.

Then again I have very hard water (but good quality, and pH not far off 7) and have no obvious issues with it whereas other people have huge issues with hard water, so :shrug: YMMV indeed!

Ylva
July 9th, 2020, 04:45 PM
Like probably most westerners, I was deficient in a lot of things, most notably vitamin D, for a long, long time. However, my splits have mostly to do with the fact that my ends have been bleached three times and dyed at least once. :D Now that I am no longer suffering from deficiencies or non-optimal diets, we can eventually see if there is any difference in the quality of my hair, but that I can't tell until years from now.

Fimu
July 10th, 2020, 03:37 AM
Like probably most westerners, I was deficient in a lot of things, most notably vitamin D, for a long, long time. However, my splits have mostly to do with the fact that my ends have been bleached three times and dyed at least once. :D Now that I am no longer suffering from deficiencies or non-optimal diets, we can eventually see if there is any difference in the quality of my hair, but that I can't tell until years from now.

Triple bleaching is a lot indeed, but I wonder if nutrient-deficient weakened hair is even more sensitive to chemical damage and daily-wear-and-tear damage.

I also have to wait months until I will notice differences in my length now I've addressed my diet and work on slight iron deficiency since a half year.

hennalonghair
July 10th, 2020, 03:57 AM
Recently switched to vegetarian diet and lost sooo much hair. I’m so disappointed with myself cause I’m a nutritionist and should know better. I was lacking protein, B12 and vitamin D. My hair looked terrible so I went back to my regular diet which doesn’t include a lot of meat but has some and my hair looks much better.

lapushka
July 10th, 2020, 04:21 AM
Recently switched to vegetarian diet and lost sooo much hair. I’m so disappointed with myself cause I’m a nutritionist and should know better. I was lacking protein, B12 and vitamin D. My hair looked terrible so I went back to my regular diet which doesn’t include a lot of meat but has some and my hair looks much better.

OT, but we used to eat steak every day when I was growing up, for the "iron". My mom needed it at the time, and so we all ate the same. Now we eat far less meat, but I don't think you need *that* much to be healthy. Or, if going vegan or vegetarian, substitute well. I know people who do this successfully, but it takes dedication and plenty of the right substituters!

Fimu
July 10th, 2020, 07:08 AM
Recently switched to vegetarian diet and lost sooo much hair. I’m so disappointed with myself cause I’m a nutritionist and should know better. I was lacking protein, B12 and vitamin D. My hair looked terrible so I went back to my regular diet which doesn’t include a lot of meat but has some and my hair looks much better.


OT, but we used to eat steak every day when I was growing up, for the "iron". My mom needed it at the time, and so we all ate the same. Now we eat far less meat, but I don't think you need *that* much to be healthy. Or, if going vegan or vegetarian, substitute well. I know people who do this successfully, but it takes dedication and plenty of the right substituters!

I have a vegetarian diet, so maybe that attributes to me being prone to iron deficiency. Having a brown skin while living in a country with lack of sunshine and strong UVB rays in winter, I'm also prone to Vitamin D deficiency so I take supplements for half a year.

Regarding iron deficiency, I understood that dark green vegetables, lentils, dried fruits and teff flour are good examples of vegan iron sources.

school of fish
July 10th, 2020, 08:51 AM
I run low on iron and B12 naturally and was anemic a couple years back - went through some rounds of bloodwork to investigate extremely low energy levels and general immune system issues at the time and the anemia showed up in the results.

The quality of my hair didn't suffer splitwise and I never appeared to lose hair during that time but I have noticed that I have a substantial halo of growth around my edges that currently measures about 2 years' worth of growth - it co-incides with dietary adjustments I made that balanced my levels (in my case my issue seems to be one of absorption - I was technically getting adequate iron but my body doesn't absorb it well in non-heme form).

Other than the dietary accomodation (which produced a massive turnaround in my energy and general immunity) nothing else about my hair care routine has changed from then to now.

I've been at my goal length for some years now so not gaining length by choice - but I continue to work on traveling my thickness down to the ends. I can't say I ever noticed any negative effect on my hair's quality when my levels were lower, only the new growth around the entire hairline since balancing out - hard for me to say if there's a correlation or just coincidence.

dagny
July 11th, 2020, 09:13 PM
I am a bit past TB length and currently going through a major hair shed.

Recent bloodwork showed I was in the normal ferritin range, but actually low for hair growth (hair needs to be around 50-70 and mine was 30). So, while technically not "anemic", it kind of counts as a deficiency. In addition, I have chronically low vitamin D deficiency, low cortisol due to Adrenal Insufficiency (I need to take steroids in order to live), and have chronic digestion issues (microscopic colitis) in which I go through bouts of not being able to eat food for weeks, etc. I did an S&D tonight but didn't really find many splits. My last trim was Dec 31 and my hemline is still quite straight; however, my growth rate has slowed considerably whilst I have been undergoing the shed. My usual rate is 2cm a month, but I have slowed to less than 1cm.

In addition, I started to get a grey streak up the side of my hair right before the shed started, which coincides with a major respiratory illness I had in February. (prior to this, I had almost no grey hairs and certainly not a streak like this one!) This may have been what precipitated my ferritin level being low, especially since I have always eaten a diet that was otherwise high in iron. I had done some research that linked some premature grey hair with low iron, and it is quite possible that when you hear of people going grey "overnight" due to illness/stress it might be due to a drop in their iron levels. Or not.....

HTH

Fimu
July 13th, 2020, 01:18 AM
I am a bit past TB length and currently going through a major hair shed.

Recent bloodwork showed I was in the normal ferritin range, but actually low for hair growth (hair needs to be around 50-70 and mine was 30). So, while technically not "anemic", it kind of counts as a deficiency. ...


Sorry to hear about your medical conditions, but I've never heard about the ideal ferritin values for optimal hair growth before, so good to know! Did you get this information from your doctor or from an online source?

My vitamin D levels are all right now it's replenished after a very sunny spring, but I have to keep an eye on my levels despite taking vit D supplements once it's fall again.

enting
July 13th, 2020, 05:16 AM
I'm a bit past classic.
My hair seems to have reduced midshaft splits mainly on account of me manually treating it better, but I have yet to see if nutrition helps it. I had some deficiencies that were only discovered about a year ago, so that's not really enough time to see if that has made a difference yet.
My hair actually started shedding more when my ferritin was good, so that might be odd. Other things happened at the same time though. There's too many conflating things for me to tell what actually causes my hair to shed more or less.

Bri-Chan
July 14th, 2020, 09:50 AM
I'll be able to reply to this thread better in about a year, but I share my experience anyway.
I'm hip length now. I discovered I have/had a mild anemia one year ago, but I suspect I had anemia at least for 3 years before of that.
I always knew nothing about alimentation until I discovered my anemia. In early 2015 I switched from a carnivore diet (only meat and cheese, vegetables occasionally) to a kind of vegetarian one (pasta, cheese and random vegetables). Plus, I usually eat just a little amount of food, especially in the last 2 (movimented) years. I took iron supplements for a while, now I switched to a such more healthy vegetarian alimentation and I basically need to know, with time, if I'm doing it well since I haven't seen any specialist.

Coming back to hair, my hair was never prone to split ends. The only thing causing my hair split ends is heat (like flat iron if I use it regularly), bleach and dye do nothing in this case too. So I cannot comment this. I noticed with years a little reduction of my pony (like 0,12/0,15 inches) but at that time I was 16, my hair wasn't damaged as now and I used sporadically cassia, henna and indigo ( on my dyed hair, but still) so I cannot be sure. But I noticed a little amount of new hair in the last weeks, and every single strand seems to be born about 2 month after I started taking supplements.
But it affeccted the hair grow speed for sure. I remember I noticed it at least 2 years ago. I used to grow 8 inches in a year, now I'm just around 6. But anemia was not the only health problem I had/have so it is maybe the combination of both.

g_lou
July 24th, 2020, 09:21 AM
I wouldn't say my hair is ~very~ long but my (past) eating issues coincided with most of the years I've been growing my hair out and it still made it to classic with not too much taper.
I ended up deficient in almost every B vitamin so what worked for me was supplementing and using hair products that had what I was missing. There are quite a few shampoos+conditioners that have biotin and b vitamins, not sure what the science is but they seem to work.

Sometimes strands of hair that fall out will have thinner sections, I'm guessing from times when my anaemia was worse, but I don't think I get massively more split ends than most. Honestly I suspect hair loss has more to do with hormones than deficiencies but the 2 often go hand in hand.
I'm not deficient anymore but I'm still vegan so probably get less iron and have no problems with growth.