Wet Set Brush Outs

[jane_marie]

As this whole isolation thing drags on I have found a new love in vintage Wet Set brush out videos.

I'd sort of like to tr m hand at it but I think m hair might be too long.


Has anone done one of these wet set brush outs with hair waist length or longer?

[Lucy McLucyFace]

Funny that you'd mention it, I recently found a youtuber who does exactly that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydbqw27lfEQ

[Lucy McLucyFace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjT8LAm4Uhs here she actually does the curling

[jane_marie]

Funny that you'd mention it, I recently found a youtuber who does exactly that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydbqw27lfEQ


That's awesome! Thank you very very much!

[AutobotsAttack]

I’m just wondering how this would be any different from a roller set? The method and utensils used are like exactly the same.

[Sunny]

Autobots,I would call it a roller set, too, but also a wet set. The type of roller is the difference, whether the hair is dry and rolled over heated curlers, or if the hair is wet (or damp) over rollers and allowed to dry that way. For me, a wet set is much stronger than a heat set and isn't as likely to drop out in humidity or wind. (I prefer a wet set with pin curls or rag curls, because both are more comfortable to sleep on!)

In the YouTube video she says she waits for her hair to dry before setting it, so it may actually be a dry set. There's probably still a little dampness inside the hairs, and the tension itself will set curl over time. I have large, bouncy waves and curled ends after bunning my hair all day.

jane_marie, my hair holds on to curl very strongly. And although it's not thick by LHC standards, it's thicker than the video, and acts like a tangly mass after a wet set on medium-sized rollers. A bristle brush can't penetrate it, so it can result in lots of tangles and then breakage. Now I finger separate the curls as much as possible first, then with a Denman brush, work on only half my hair at a time, and brush from the bottom up. The Denman made a huge difference. Using this, I can brush the ringlet curls into waves for the cohesive 1940s look. (It does tend to re-twist and re-curl itself somewhat during the course of the day, depending on how big the rollers were.)

She looks amazingly like Dorothy Lamour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Lamour)! Just with lighter hair!

[jane_marie]

Autobots,I would call it a roller set, too, but also a wet set. The type of roller is the difference, whether the hair is dry and rolled over heated curlers, or if the hair is wet (or damp) over rollers and allowed to dry that way. For me, a wet set is much stronger than a heat set and isn't as likely to drop out in humidity or wind. (I prefer a wet set with pin curls or rag curls, because both are more comfortable to sleep on!)

In the YouTube video she says she waits for her hair to dry before setting it, so it may actually be a dry set. There's probably still a little dampness inside the hairs, and the tension itself will set curl over time. I have large, bouncy waves and curled ends after bunning my hair all day.

jane_marie, my hair holds on to curl very strongly. And although it's not thick by LHC standards, it's thicker than the video, and acts like a tangly mass after a wet set on medium-sized rollers. A bristle brush can't penetrate it, so it can result in lots of tangles and then breakage. Now I finger separate the curls as much as possible first, then with a Denman brush, work on only half my hair at a time, and brush from the bottom up. The Denman made a huge difference. Using this, I can brush the ringlet curls into waves for the cohesive 1940s look. (It does tend to re-twist and re-curl itself somewhat during the course of the day, depending on how big the rollers were.)

She looks amazingly like Dorothy Lamour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Lamour)! Just with lighter hair!

Oh thanks for the info!

I tried to wet set rag curls yesterday but I think I over brushed it.

Instead of getting a flowing 40s glam sort of thing
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/b8/ab/bd/b8abbddc22eda19d42951d194d302e7f.jpg

I ended up with this

https://i.imgur.com/eR6S0sm.jpg

Do ou have an ksuggestions to help form the waves together?

[Sunny]

Oh thanks for the info!

I tried to wet set rag curls yesterday but I think I over brushed it.

Instead of getting a flowing 40s glam sort of thing
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/b8/ab/bd/b8abbddc22eda19d42951d194d302e7f.jpg

I ended up with this

https://i.imgur.com/eR6S0sm.jpg

Do ou have an ksuggestions to help form the waves together?

Oh pretty! Was your hair 100% absolutely bone dry when you took out the rags? That's one thing about a wet set, the hair has to be totally dry or the curl never forms. It's unlike a heat set in that respect, where you can get a looser curl or a tighter curl just by how long/high the heat is on. Your ends look straight, which makes me wonder if they were still damp inside the rag curls.

I think my hair dries fairly quickly, but when rolled into curls it can still take a while. Usually I set my hair after washing in the early evening, then I sit under a soft bonnet hair dryer for an hour or so and watch TV. It's still damp but much drier after that. Then I sleep on it and it's dry even early in the morning for work. The dryer makes a HUGE difference.

The other thing I've noticed about drying is the type of curl, and how it's slept on. Curls with no "center" dry the fastest because there's maximum air contact. Pin curls are the classic for this reason. I've also invented a pin curl/rag curl hybrid that's even faster; I roll as if for a pin curl, over a fairly large form, and then tie the rag through it. Maybe try one of those techniques? I haven't used sponge rollers in several years, since I prefer the patterns I can do with pin curls (set waves) and the ease and speed of my hybrid thing.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49811534857_5000345fd1_z.jpg

As for sleeping, I never put a scarf around my head. First, they don't stay, and second, it greatly slows down drying. I did pincurls on vacation once years ago. It was humid overnight so they didn't totally dry (and I didn't have access to the dryer). I didn't need my hair down until evening, so I ran around all day doing touristy things with a stylish silk scarf. Lo and behold, it was STILL damp in the mid afternoon, and I had to use the blowdryer at the hotel. It was summer in LA - hot and really not humid - and there's simply no other reason but the scarf for it to have been damp. So I've definitely never tried to use one after that.

Whew, I wrote a lot again. Does that help any?

[spidermom]

It has always been my policy to mess with my hair as little as possible after removing the rollers. Other than using my fingers to give my curls some direction, I let curls be curls. Brushing out curls causes frizz. If I leave them alone, the curls gradually relax over time and eventually I can comb them into a smooth wavy style similar to the ideal shown above.

[jane_marie]

It has always been my policy to mess with my hair as little as possible after removing the rollers. Other than using my fingers to give my curls some direction, I let curls be curls. Brushing out curls causes frizz. If I leave them alone, the curls gradually relax over time and eventually I can comb them into a smooth wavy style similar to the ideal shown above.
Okay. I'm glad that works for you but I I was asking for videos of wet set brush outs and advice on how to do them properly.

Yes, I know curls relax over time and will give a similar look but it's really not the same. Curls relax into beach waves on me not a Marcelle wave.


I kind of like the frizzy look. I've been pretty annoyed that the longer my hair gets the flatter it is. Of course my hair doesn't frizz as immediately as someone with fine hair so there's that. :shrug:

For me, this look would actually be ideal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ4qwPVp8KA

[jane_marie]

Oh pretty! Was your hair 100% absolutely bone dry when you took out the rags? That's one thing about a wet set, the hair has to be totally dry or the curl never forms. It's unlike a heat set in that respect, where you can get a looser curl or a tighter curl just by how long/high the heat is on. Your ends look straight, which makes me wonder if they were still damp inside the rag curls.

I think my hair dries fairly quickly, but when rolled into curls it can still take a while. Usually I set my hair after washing in the early evening, then I sit under a soft bonnet hair dryer for an hour or so and watch TV. It's still damp but much drier after that. Then I sleep on it and it's dry even early in the morning for work. The dryer makes a HUGE difference.

The other thing I've noticed about drying is the type of curl, and how it's slept on. Curls with no "center" dry the fastest because there's maximum air contact. Pin curls are the classic for this reason. I've also invented a pin curl/rag curl hybrid that's even faster; I roll as if for a pin curl, over a fairly large form, and then tie the rag through it. Maybe try one of those techniques? I haven't used sponge rollers in several years, since I prefer the patterns I can do with pin curls (set waves) and the ease and speed of my hybrid thing.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49811534857_5000345fd1_z.jpg

As for sleeping, I never put a scarf around my head. First, they don't stay, and second, it greatly slows down drying. I did pincurls on vacation once years ago. It was humid overnight so they didn't totally dry (and I didn't have access to the dryer). I didn't need my hair down until evening, so I ran around all day doing touristy things with a stylish silk scarf. Lo and behold, it was STILL damp in the mid afternoon, and I had to use the blowdryer at the hotel. It was summer in LA - hot and really not humid - and there's simply no other reason but the scarf for it to have been damp. So I've definitely never tried to use one after that.

Whew, I wrote a lot again. Does that help any?

Oh wow. That is all super helpful! Thank you! <3

[spidermom]

Good luck! For me, brushing out curls would cause a lot of damage, too, which is why I'd rather let them relax on their own. Then I get 2 looks from 1 set.

[jane_marie]

Good luck! For me, brushing out curls would cause a lot of damage, too, which is why I'd rather let them relax on their own. Then I get 2 looks from 1 set.

I understand. My main love for the brush outs is that they make hair so fluffy and normal curling doesn't do that for me. :wail:

I've noticed a lot recently that while I enjoy my hair I really really love hair when fine and thick because it looks pillowy. Brush outs have that same softness I think but with a bit more structure. :)

[Sunny]

Oh wow. That is all super helpful! Thank you! <3

Yay! Feel free to ask if you have any other questions. I know there's a way to make this work for you. I love curls and wet sets!

[HaMalka]

I came across this video today. I'm not sure if its quite what you are looking for but I hope it helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GBV_KFoCL8