How do I get heavy, silky hair?

[Loveletters]

Hello!
My strands are very fine, which causes my hair to look very frizzy and almost static, also in summer. My hair quite thick overall, but isn't weighed down. It's a little too voluminous down the length, so I get the triangle head hair that most people with shorter hair have, even though my hair's past hip length. It looks weird. I would like silky, heavy hair that stays in place. I don't know what kind of products I could use for this. Any tips? Thanks in advance! <3

[Bellalla]

I have very similar hair and very similar wishes, but I'm not sure that product exists. I just did a cassia treatment last night, and my hair strands do feel thicker though, so maybe something like that would help a bit?

[embee]

Sad to report: Likely you need good hair genes. :( I don't have them.

[Tinyponies]

Yep, it sounds likely you’re coveting the hair type that comes with different genes. Anything else is going to be an ongoing struggle, imho...

One of the bestest things about this forum is the encouragement to embrace your own texture, your own heritage, your natural self! There’s not many things more beautiful or dare I say revolutionary in these times.

[Sarahlabyrinth]

Yep, you need different hair genes. I would love that type of hair too, but - don't have it! You (and I) need to like what we have. :)

[Belgrade Beauty]

Tatsuoni's hair changed over time,she went from fine to medium,I think it's hormone related, not only genetic. I also went from medium to fine due to hormonal changes...:)

[Ylva]

Well-moisturised hair is heavier than dry. You could also try and weight it down a bit with some oils, but it's easy to go overboard with them, especially with fine hair.

Like others have said, the best thing to do is just accept your genes and work with them rather than against them. :)

[Laurab]

It sounds like you and I have similar hair!
No matter what I do I'm always going to have some poof and major flyaways, but a few things can help.
For me, I think the biggest difference comes from my stylist. When I hit about shoulder length she put in a lot of internal layering and a couple of layers on top. I know a lot of people wouldn't want this because you do lose thick ess by doing this, but it really does make a difference, my hair lays so much better since it's actually cut for my hair type.
Second thing is keeping hair conditioned. With fine hair I feel like it's hard to strike a good balance for this. Too many moisturizing products and it looks greasy, but not enough and it's a mess. Finding the sweet spot is tricky, but I like keeping it pretty simple and cheap. I use an aussie conditioner most wash days, Garnier treats one minute masks for when I condition (usually the avocado), and if I'm going to blow dry I guse the Garnier sleek and shine leave in conditioner. 2/3 of those products have silicone, which I don't avoid but many do.
Blow drying can also help keep everything looking smooth. If you don't use too high of a heat setting it isn't that bad.

I'll also say I've got a clear memory of hearing this girl in high school, who in my eyes had perfect hair, similar to what you've described as your goal, envying someone's fine, fluffy hair.
We all want what we can't have I guess!

[MusicalSpoons]

Well-moisturised hair is heavier than dry. You could also try and weight it down a bit with some oils, but it's easy to go overboard with them, especially with fine hair.

Like others have said, the best thing to do is just accept your genes and work with them rather than against them. :)

I have definitely found this - even when I was between classic and knee my hair would float upwards and wind itself around things. Now that my routine is far more moisturising than it was then, that doesn't happen unless it gets staticky (which up until last week, *never* happened). I think a major part of solving it was doing ROO, whereas dry oiling between washes didn't make much difference until it was oiled heavily enough to look oily - not to mention the lint magnet it became.

Edit: just to add, I used silicones before in what was just a routine of S/C/airdry/brush, and my hair still did its floaty investigative thing.

[TatsuOni]

Tatsuoni's hair changed over time,she went from fine to medium,I think it's hormone related, not only genetic. I also went from medium to fine due to hormonal changes...:)

Yeah, it did change around 20.

But my hair would also be static and frizzy without lots of moisture and oil. I use aloe vera followed up by a little bit of oil to tame my hair.

[lapushka]

Yes! Ylva has a very good point. You could try and weigh your hair down by double conditioning it, that should help somewhat, especially if you use good moisturizing conditioners and/or masks. There is the CWC method or the WCC method that you can use for that.

Other than that there's oiling the hair, this can be done several different ways. Pre-shampoo, and wash it out. Don't use so much oil that you have to wash it out several times (it's a fine line between too much and too little). You could do an oil rinse (see signature for the link) or you could just use oil as a plain leave-in treatment (just a couple drops spread through palms & applied = enough).

I need to weigh my hair down or it will go: poof. :lol:

[lilbee]

Maybe drench it with conditioner and don't rinse too much ? Just an idea among all...

[DropStitches]

One of the bestest things about this forum is the encouragement to embrace your own texture, your own heritage, your natural self! There’s not many things more beautiful or dare I say revolutionary in these times.

Tinyponies, that's such a wonderful sentiment! I love it.


Hello!
My strands are very fine, which causes my hair to look very frizzy and almost static, also in summer. My hair quite thick overall, but isn't weighed down. It's a little too voluminous down the length, so I get the triangle head hair that most people with shorter hair have, even though my hair's past hip length. It looks weird. I would like silky, heavy hair that stays in place. I don't know what kind of products I could use for this. Any tips? Thanks in advance! <3

Loveletters, for what it's worth, my hair changed in texture quite a lot through my twenties, which I suspect was part hormonal, and part learning more about what made it happy. Good luck on your journey!

[gustavonut]

My hair is heavy and silky. I believe my hair care routine contributes to that.

CWC, leave in spray, hair serum, sleep on silk, gentle brushing.

[florenonite]

My hair tends to be like this as well. The individual strands are so fine that even with henna they're transparent when held up to the light. I found it was less flyaway when I was using soap-based shampoo bars, but those also left a weird grey gunk on my hair so I wouldn't recommend that. The floatiness came back when I switched back to a mild sulfate shampoo. It usually calms down a day or two after washing, but by then the roots are greasy so I have to wash again :p

[godivawannabe]

I think for some it's genetics but for others, things like a brazilian blowout can temporarily create this effect. Your hair sounds amazing though! :)

[SelenVinland]

I was going to say, genetics or possibly a keratin straightening treatment. I've heard that the latter isn't great for your hair though, and it isn't permanent.

[pisinoe]

I managed that by always doing a pre-shampoo treatment, then using all professional products like (non-drying) shampoo, 3 different types of hair masks (nutrition, moisture, repair) and afterwards using the L'oréal liss unlimited leave-in and sealing it with the Bed Head After Party cream :).

[Suortuva]

Silicone leave-ins might help too, if you are not against silicones.

[Jane99]

I recently started using argan oil... it’s not heavy on my hair but it makes it so silky. Mostly on the ends and top canopy, a bit on the top to help with the flyaways. Doesn’t make my hair look greasy when applied post wash on damp hair for me. And like 2 drops is perfect for me.

[LunaLuvsU]

the closest I've gotten to what you're describing was after a silk treatment but its expensive and didn't last past another wash.

[spidermom]

I feel this! I always felt like my hair was more like a cloud than hair. It helps to do regular moisturizing masks, and the less I comb or brush,the better.

[Belgrade Beauty]

I have to report that I managed to create this effect by oiling my hair before washing it, and double condition during wash. Afterwards it soft silky and it's weighted down but not head hurt weighted, just not flying around like Medusa...

[Lucy McLucyFace]

It's not a permanent "solution" but if you want to have the appearance of silkier and thicker hair you could try fermented rice water. It deposits starch around your strands which gives them a different appearance. It also has other benefits from the nutrients in the rice. Just be careful not to let that build up too much or overload your hair with protein.
I have no idea if that would weigh it down though, you'd have to try it assuming you haven't already :o