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Kiisu
March 1st, 2019, 02:50 AM
Hi Beauties!:flower:
I have straight hair and I noticed why i have those split ends or what ? How i fix those or need cut off? shudder:or leave it alone?
Hair routine : Only scalp: Garnier almond milk & agave sap (contains only SLS)
1x week Clarifying shampoo (DS Mineral Removing Shampoo)
Ends conditioner : Garnier honey treasures repairing conditioner ( contains water soluble silicone and dodecene)
I think Olaplex no3 makes my ends so worse :mad: And i dont oily my ends because makes my hair sooo oily/greasy and flat hair...big no for me.
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enting
March 1st, 2019, 03:08 AM
These aren't split ends, though some of them may develop split ends.
You may trim them out if you want to, but beware of trimming out so much that you thin out your ends more than you'd like. On my hair, I would probably end up trimming out the sharp L shaped bend because I would expect it to become a split and also snag neighboring hairs, but the others would depend on whether they're bothering me or not. Generally speaking, if it's not going to snag other hairs there's no reason to cut it off.
I think these appearing have less to do with what products you use and more to do with how you manipulate your hair, but I could be wrong.
lapushka
March 1st, 2019, 04:44 AM
I agree with enting; those aren't split ends. And yes, be careful cutting those out as you may be thinning out your hemline unnecessarily and doing too much S&D (it's a pitfall).
Kiisu
March 1st, 2019, 04:54 AM
What Causes this ends ? :( How i fix? i don't want those ends but not much those have ends only less. (sorry bad english) or it is moisture overload or protein ? :confused: or those are normal ?
enting
March 1st, 2019, 05:42 AM
I think it's from the hairs getting bent or crushed or stretched. I don't think it has to do with moisture or protein. I do think it is very common for these ends to show up on most hair types.
Some questions to think about to narrow down what's causing this are: do you often wear your hair down? What type of brush or comb do you use? Do you use hair elastics?
If you have very many of these, it's worth trying to figure out how to prevent them. If there aren't too many of these I would consider it normal wear and tear and not something to worry about.
lapushka
March 1st, 2019, 05:50 AM
What Causes this ends ? :( How i fix? i don't want those ends but not much those have ends only less. (sorry bad english) or it is moisture overload or protein ? :confused: or those are normal ?
Often how you brush, lay on them, what type of updo you've done, how you've slept on it - just regular wear and tear. It's not a problem, Kiisu, at all, so I wouldn't worry.
tekla
March 1st, 2019, 05:50 AM
What Causes this ends ? :( How i fix? i don't want those ends but not much those have ends only less. (sorry bad english) or it is moisture overload or protein ? :confused: or those are normal ?
Split ends or not, they are signs of damaged hair nonetheless. If I've understood correctly, they are caused by either lack of moisture or protein. I guess there are threads about how to determine which is the case? Anyways, more moisture and protecting hair from mechanical stress won't do any harm.
Kiisu
March 1st, 2019, 05:56 AM
I use tangle treezer , Yes often hair down(i wear always bathrobe silk at home :rolleyes: ) only evening i bun it Always i use invisibobble
And i use satin / silk pillowcase too (hair loose over a silk pillowcase). waiting new silk bonnet .
Brushing hair daily 2-3x
enting
March 1st, 2019, 06:26 AM
Hm. Again, if there aren't a lot of these I wouldn't worry about them. It is very normal and common for these to appear, even in well cared for LHC hair.
The only things I can think of to maybe be more gentle if you aren't already doing them are:
brushing slower, brushing fewer times a day, making sure to always unwrap the invisibobble and not pull it out.
If you're already doing all of those things, I'm going to say that this is just inevitable damage and it would be best to try and not focus on them. If you have a lot of this kind of damage, I'd try choosing one thing at a time to change and see if that could be the culprit: either the tangle teezer brushing, the invisibobble, or wearing hair down. Don't do all three at once though because then you won't know what the problem was if you do end up seeing a change.
If it makes you feel any better, I think a lot of us have hairs like this. I know I do. The really bad ones I snip out. The not so bad ones I leave. Sometimes just washing my hair sets some of them to rights again.
lapushka
March 1st, 2019, 06:56 AM
Split ends or not, they are signs of damaged hair nonetheless. If I've understood correctly, they are caused by either lack of moisture or protein. I guess there are threads about how to determine which is the case? Anyways, more moisture and protecting hair from mechanical stress won't do any harm.
I wonder where you got that information from. I have had things like this in my hair for decades; my hair is as healthy as it can be. It is just the nature of things. It's "hair" and so it does crazy things according to the updo you do, how you sleep, how you brush, comb, what have you.
Hm. Again, if there aren't a lot of these I wouldn't worry about them. It is very normal and common for these to appear, even in well cared for LHC hair.
The only things I can think of to maybe be more gentle if you aren't already doing them are:
brushing slower, brushing fewer times a day, making sure to always unwrap the invisibobble and not pull it out.
If you're already doing all of those things, I'm going to say that this is just inevitable damage and it would be best to try and not focus on them. If you have a lot of this kind of damage, I'd try choosing one thing at a time to change and see if that could be the culprit: either the tangle teezer brushing, the invisibobble, or wearing hair down. Don't do all three at once though because then you won't know what the problem was if you do end up seeing a change.
If it makes you feel any better, I think a lot of us have hairs like this. I know I do. The really bad ones I snip out. The not so bad ones I leave. Sometimes just washing my hair sets some of them to rights again.
I wouldn't worry either.
tekla
March 1st, 2019, 07:23 AM
I wonder where you got that information from. I have had things like this in my hair for decades; my hair is as healthy as it can be. It is just the nature of things. It's "hair" and so it does crazy things according to the updo you do, how you sleep, how you brush, comb, what have you.
I didn't mean that hair damage is a sign of "unhealthy" hair. What I meant was that hair is dead tissue and because it has no mechanisms to repair itself, it's sensitive to external factors (climate, chemical treatments, mechanical wear etc.) and some types of hair are more sensitive to these factors than others. The longer the hair is, the older it is and has had its fair share of all those factors contributing to visible changes in single strands of hair. As we know, there are ways to protect hair from damaging or make the damage less visible, but eventually it happens to all of us. By any means I don't think that damaged hair is somehow bad or anything like that. That's just the way it is, the nature of things as you said. :)
enting
March 1st, 2019, 07:39 AM
Something to note is that most of these hair formations can also occur naturally, not due to damage, in hair that is wurlier than 1A.
lapushka
March 1st, 2019, 03:01 PM
I didn't mean that hair damage is a sign of "unhealthy" hair. What I meant was that hair is dead tissue and because it has no mechanisms to repair itself, it's sensitive to external factors (climate, chemical treatments, mechanical wear etc.) and some types of hair are more sensitive to these factors than others. The longer the hair is, the older it is and has had its fair share of all those factors contributing to visible changes in single strands of hair. As we know, there are ways to protect hair from damaging or make the damage less visible, but eventually it happens to all of us. By any means I don't think that damaged hair is somehow bad or anything like that. That's just the way it is, the nature of things as you said. :)
Yes but your point is that it is "damage", my point is, that it isn't. :)
I have seen damage (from bleach, dye, henna/indigo) and that is a different beast altogether!
If you're calling this damage, you'll never get your hair long without cutting it to pieces from the so-called damage.
Ylva
March 1st, 2019, 03:02 PM
Isn't it simply a form of mechanical damage, though? Since the hair is broken?
lapushka
March 1st, 2019, 03:33 PM
Isn't it simply a form of mechanical damage, though? Since the hair is broken?
What do you mean the hair is broken? OP didn't mention broken hair at all, not that I recall.
Ylva
March 1st, 2019, 03:35 PM
What do you mean the hair is broken? OP didn't mention broken hair at all, not that I recall.
The L looking hairs, which are included in the drawing, are white dots, aren't they? At least that's how I've understood. I would count that as mechanical damage. I mean, the hair is just going to break off from there, nothing else.
lapushka
March 1st, 2019, 04:19 PM
The L looking hairs, which are included in the drawing, are white dots, aren't they? At least that's how I've understood. I would count that as mechanical damage. I mean, the hair is just going to break off from there, nothing else.
Nope they aren't. You can have sharp angles in the hair that aren't bound by a white dot. I have them and they usually occur on the last half an inch (white dots are usually up higher), from updos and such. It doesn't mean breakage and if you wash, you sort of reset that hair strand.
Kiisu
March 1st, 2019, 04:36 PM
No..they don't have white dots only normal L
Ylva
March 1st, 2019, 04:40 PM
Hmm, I've had L hairs without white dots but they were still just flapping about, definitely didn't fix themselves ever again. That's why I never connected them with the term white dot, but they were still very much broken.
lapushka
March 1st, 2019, 04:57 PM
No..they don't have white dots only normal L
I would re-assess after a wash, and look a the hair when it's freshly washed and it hasn't been slept on or been in an updo and has had minimal "intervention". What does that say?
tekla
March 1st, 2019, 05:02 PM
I don't know if this is hairsplitting (pun intended) or semantics but there's such a concept as mechanical damage to hair and certainly there are different degrees and causes of damage. Thus damage doesn't mean that hair needs to be cut, not at all. Like I said, we all have damaged strands of hair because we have hair. :) Some damage is visible from afar, some can only be seen with microscope and then there's a lot between those extremes. Some damage is caused by harsh treatments, some is caused over time when hair is exposed to the world.
Ylva
March 1st, 2019, 05:45 PM
I don't know if this is hairsplitting (pun intended) or semantics but there's such a concept as mechanical damage to hair and certainly there are different degrees and causes of damage. Thus damage doesn't mean that hair needs to be cut, not at all. Like I said, we all have damaged strands of hair because we have hair. :) Some damage is visible from afar, some can only be seen with microscope and then there's a lot between those extremes. Some damage is caused by harsh treatments, some is caused over time when hair is exposed to the world.
I understand what you mean and agree with you. Like, there's no such thing as undamaged hair except maybe that which is very, very young, but well cared for, virgin hair is "as healthy as can be", and still healthy overall.
Dark40
March 1st, 2019, 05:52 PM
Those are not split ends. They just look like wurly ends to me. What you can do to fix it is do hair masks once a week. Or, you can do deep conditioning treatments once a week. No, it doesn't look like moisture or protein overload to me. Keep doing your protein/moisture balance. I do that once a week with a light protein/moisturizing conditioner.
Five of Five
March 2nd, 2019, 02:43 AM
My hair is a similar type to yours, and I have many like the last hair you drew in my top layer of hair.
Those last ones can be caused by hairs being stretched past their limit. You can test this on a shed hair; pull it several times without breaking it, and see if it looks like the ones you have or not. If so, it is likely caused by rough detangling, particularly when wet. Sometimes the tangle teezer can do this, since it is so easy and tempting to brush through it too quickly.
Of course, people here are absolutely correct that S and D can be a huge pitfall, and that these types of hairs can be natural variations in your texture. Overall it is probably best to simply ignore them, and to just try to be more gentle in the future (if it is indeed caused by mechanical damage).
Best of luck to you!
Kiisu
March 2nd, 2019, 02:50 AM
Okay Beauties thank you answering me :) ! I put here pictures better.. I dont have those so much but they are is normal right?
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Begemot
March 2nd, 2019, 03:08 AM
Looks normal to me :) I would probably cut out ends that are sharply bent, like in the last photo, since in my experience those tend to break eventually.
tekla
March 2nd, 2019, 05:00 AM
Looking at the pictures I don't think you have anything to worry about. Like Begemot said, I would probably cut of those sharper L-shaped ends and white dots (if you have them) but otherwise just give them a lot of love and moisture. :)
lapushka
March 2nd, 2019, 07:38 AM
I would not worry one bit! :thumbsup:
Ylva
March 2nd, 2019, 12:11 PM
I agree with Begemot and tekla. The sharp L hairs I would cut off, but the rest should be fixed by a water reset alone.
priinnz
March 2nd, 2019, 02:04 PM
Okay Beauties thank you answering me :) ! I put here pictures better.. I dont have those so much but they are is normal right]
Oh my god a handful of my hair is exactly like this most days. Are you using a leave in? ROO and very small dabs of coconut oil or Almond oil on wet hair seem to reduce this for me. I believe this happens due to mechanical manipulation. I don’t cut it even though it’s very tempting except sometimes the sharp v bends. If I look verrry carefully I can sometimes see a very very tiny split in these.
Spikey
March 2nd, 2019, 02:09 PM
Yup, looks healthy to me! One thing though- why do you use clarifiying shampoo once a week? I'm no expert, but that seems a bit too often. Usually normal shampoo is enough, and if you have really hard water or use lots of cones you clarify once a month. If you use harsh shampoos that often, your hair can dry out.
lapushka
March 2nd, 2019, 02:27 PM
Yup, looks healthy to me! One thing though- why do you use clarifiying shampoo once a week? I'm no expert, but that seems a bit too often. Usually normal shampoo is enough, and if you have really hard water or use lots of cones you clarify once a month. If you use harsh shampoos that often, your hair can dry out.
I clarify every week as well (I weekly wash). I have never had issues. I do however need the sulfates! And I condition twice post wash (WCC method, see signature). So it's all good. It's often not about how you shampoo, but about how you replenish the moisture!
leayellena
March 5th, 2019, 01:04 AM
Hi Beauties!:flower:
I have straight hair and I noticed why i have those split ends or what ? How i fix those or need cut off? shudder:or leave it alone?
Hair routine : Only scalp: Garnier almond milk & agave sap (contains only SLS)
1x week Clarifying shampoo (DS Mineral Removing Shampoo)
Ends conditioner : Garnier honey treasures repairing conditioner ( contains water soluble silicone and dodecene)
I think Olaplex no3 makes my ends so worse :mad: And i dont oily my ends because makes my hair sooo oily/greasy and flat hair...big no for me.
https://scontent.fqlf1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/52592618_1045468112507581_2843767386497089536_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fqlf1-1.fna&oh=c702e3cbe07be9850fd207d5a7e179b8&oe=5CE78CC9
this is how my ends look after 4 days of wearing the same hairstyle. after a wcc or co-wash they look smooth and straight again.
such ends happen because of lack of moisture or humidity in my case.
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