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LittleOgre
December 20th, 2018, 11:37 AM
So I just wanted to share the things I have been doing and they work. They really work and it's still hard to believe. Since I have micro locks. I have the advantage of having a better accurate measure of my hair growth. The reason being I get a 're tightening ' every month or two and when my hair is re tightened it interlocks my new growth to my scalp. There are YouTube videos on it. For a couple of months I have been implemented onion juice into my hair regimen. I just cut up some onions including the skin and boil it in some water. Strain the water and boil the water until it becomes a mores syrup texture and apply it to my scalp. Leave it for an hour or more and wash it out. I've been seeing some okay results. My hair grew close very close to an inch in a month which is fast for me since originally my hair grew just under 1/2 an inch in a month but I wanted an inch or more. So now it's growing faster. Not only do I do the onion juice every wash. Which is once a week. I also put peppermint essential oil into my shampoo because scientifically it does grow your hair faster and I also bought this oil called wild growth hair oil and I added some peppermint as well to help the smell because it stinks! I am also planning on doing the inversion method and seeing if that works. I will definitely document those results since I have been lazy with my others regiments for hair growth because laziness XD the growth oil has been helping a lot around my edges because I had some bald spots that are filling in the front surprisingly. So now it's been two weeks since my last re tightening and my hair already grew over 1/2 and inch. Amazing! I wanted to tell this to anyone who is looking for any results. The onion juice doesn't have any scientific backing... At least directly with onions but it's theorized it could be the sulfur in the onions but I am not 100% on that.
Peppermint there are studies on that.
Rosemary and lavender as well although I don't use it but I probably should but I do not have the finances time buy every single thing lol.
Monistat I have been planning but I'm not sure... It scares me even though it seems to have gotten results in this community. I have seen some comments where people said there hair fell out but they seemed to be in the minority so it depends on my mood.

One thing for sure even though it doesn't have any studies Cayenne pepper soaked in oil for two weeks and strained definitely works since I saw a video on a girl who used it. I want to try that as well. Possibly make a huge batch to apply everyday and do the wild growth hair oil three times a week.

I'm sure if I drink more water it'll help my hair grow faster as well. I probably need to do that more and those for u who think it's possibly a change in diet. I've been eating worse. To be fair I ate a bowl of carrots once... Trying to eat healthy but failed. I need to do that more but I'm allergic to fresh fruits but I'd much prefer eating them fresh honestly. Anyways just for anyone who wants some ideas.

Side note: We all genetically have a maximum growth rate potential. So for all I know this might not work for you but most people don't eat the healthiest, don't have every single nutrients and enzymes that would benefit the follicle, and dont have full 100% blood rushing up there scalp to reach that potential. This is what worked for me and I'm giving support with it.

Here are some studies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPGDl_gB2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t6Lli2sqC4

- This link shows an individual who documents her journey with onion juice. It has worked for me as well.
- Ladies results after using onion juice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csFqH1syNKI

- This girl soaked cayenne pepper in oil for two weeks, took the cayenne out and used the oil. I haven't used this. So why not add. lol.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289931/

- Study on peppermint oil. They used mice.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843973/

- Study on lavender oil. Mice as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25842469

- Study on Rosemary essential oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4740347/

- Study on scalp massages results in thicker hair.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4350143/

- Red Ginseng apparently grows hair as well

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5307826/

- Geranium Sibiricum also grows hair. More than minoxidil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637267/

- Thuja orientalis apparently grows hair as well. You can get it in the form of an essential oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3578824/

- Ginger apparently SLOWS your hair growth rate.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3144892/

- Spermidine grows hair. It is only present in foods. So you can search up what is most spermidine rich.

*Wednesday*
December 20th, 2018, 11:50 AM
These threads seem commonplace these days. Please don’t take this personal….There seems to be random people claiming their hair grows 1” or so a month due to some concoction. No pictures documenting this growth. People are free not to share pictures, but okay. People can claim anything but why not post your progress?

LittleHealthy
December 20th, 2018, 11:55 AM
Yes - to celebrate your growth is great! But there’s little scientific evidence to suggest anything much works to increase growth speed of hair. A little evidence to support scalp massage (stimulating blood vessels) but that’s about it.
Also if you’re trying lots and lots of things each month, it would be hard to really pinpoint what, if anything other than your own body growing it a little faster than usual, worked. Congrats on your inch of growth for the month though! :)

LittleOgre
December 20th, 2018, 12:04 PM
It's okay I do not mind if you're skeptical. It's free I'm not gaining anything out of it. Just was really excited and for anyone who wants to at least try. Because that is how I started it. You still get a beneficial scalp mask and you can use it for ur face because not everyone's DNA works the same. We all have a limit to how much our hair grows echo months. So I'm not saying it is garunteed it will work for the next person. I am just saying what I found for myself. Some people are already at there limited hair growth. So it probably wouldn't work but others still could gain a bit more nutrition and blood flow and stimulation. If that makes sense. This post was for those who just want to try something at no cost that still has evidence all over the internet. I'm not the only person with results who tried it. Each item I used has plenty of people of all backgrounds who found great results. If you would like me to link it I can. I understand skepticism but what exactly do I have to gain from this? Besides giving others knowledge that I was once looking for.

LittleOgre
December 20th, 2018, 12:06 PM
I looked into scalp massages and there's no evidence at all that it increases hair growth. It can stimulate NEW hair follicles but not make ur hair grow faster. When I'm on a computer. I can give you the links to studies that showed an increase in hair growth to things such as peppermint essential oil, Rosemary and lavender. Those things definitely have studies I came across.

LittleHealthy
December 20th, 2018, 12:09 PM
I looked into scalp massages and there's no evidence at all that it increases hair growth. It can stimulate NEW hair follicles but not make ur hair grow faster. When I'm on a computer. I can give you the links to studies that showed an increase in hair growth to things such as peppermint essential oil, Rosemary and lavender. Those things definitely have studies I came across.
It’s fine, I don’t do anything to try and increase my hair growth each month anyway.
I’m not skeptical, you’ve clearly seen results yourself, but to have been trying all these things at once means that it’d be tricky to know what exactly has worked. Maybe you could trial each method as a stand-alone treatment each month and document how each thing went? At very least then you’ll know whether it’s worth boiling down onions! ;)

LittleOgre
December 20th, 2018, 12:17 PM
Well I know the onions work because I have only been doing them alone for a couple of months. The other things I just added a couple of weeks ago. Maybe I'll do that. :) it's definitely worth it. Double the amount of length. I'll probably document my hair growth once I get my re tightening again. But I'm definitely documenting the inversion method to see if it works. We will see

akurah
December 20th, 2018, 12:34 PM
I looked into scalp massages and there's no evidence at all that it increases hair growth. It can stimulate NEW hair follicles but not make ur hair grow faster. When I'm on a computer. I can give you the links to studies that showed an increase in hair growth to things such as peppermint essential oil, Rosemary and lavender. Those things definitely have studies I came across.

Do you have scientific studies indicative that it's actually possible to grow new follicles? The one I found with a quick Google, while indicating it's possible, is very narrow in circumstances and might not be able to occur outside of those circumstances. It's also a mice study, which means we don't know yet if same is even possible in humans.

https://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/hair-loss/news/20070516/coaxing-new-hair-follicles-to-grow

LittleOgre
December 20th, 2018, 12:40 PM
Outside of studies. There is documented evidence of people with baby bald alopecia who are able to regain there hair back. Some full strength others just a short couple inches of fuzz but better than bald. We don't know 100% but the evidence we have so far isn't pointing against it. It's for it. Possibly people with alopecia already had those follicles but it was weak and not growing hair. I believe it personally from my experience of the growth oil that filled in a tiny bald spot I had since I could remember. The study never said it can't happen outside of those studies. I do know there are some studies that show it works for humans as well. Not specificially massages.. Well I'm not sure but it studied humans as well.

*Wednesday*
December 20th, 2018, 12:44 PM
... If you would like me to link it I can.I understand skepticism but what exactly do I have to gain from this? Besides giving others knowledge that I was once looking for.

Yes. Please send. You are posting on a hair forum making the claim of "doubled the growth" from boiling onions. If it has great results before and after would good over a period of six months which would be close to 6" inches half the year if you are retaining that. The bearer of the message should have some "receipts." ☺

akurah
December 20th, 2018, 12:56 PM
Outside of studies. There is documented evidence of people with baby bald alopecia who are able to regain there hair back. Some full strength others just a short couple inches of fuzz but better than bald. We don't know 100% but the evidence we have so far isn't pointing against it. It's for it. Possibly people with alopecia already had those follicles but it was weak and not growing hair. I believe it personally from my experience of the growth oil that filled in a tiny bald spot I had since I could remember. The study never said it can't happen outside of those studies. I do know there are some studies that show it works for humans as well. Not specificially massages.. Well I'm not sure but it studied humans as well.

Alopecia means the follicles turn off, not that they do not exist. The general scientific understanding is that the number of follicles on your head is a set number, and the only thing of significance is if they are "turned on" or "turned off". I have had alopecia in the past, and can confirm that, yes, you can regrow your hair from the baldness caused by at least some types of alopecia, but that's because the follicles are still there and always have been.

If you want people to take you seriously and believe what you have to say, accuracy in terminology is important, as is information to back your stuff up. I really hope you provide both this time around instead of yelling at us because we "misunderstood" you when you weren't even bothering to explain what you were trying to say because you were too busy yelling at us.

LittleOgre
December 20th, 2018, 12:59 PM
Hmmm. I'm not sure if I can document my hair length like loose hair. I have locs so interlocking eats up id say 1/4 of my new growth. But I'm not to sure how much. I will give you receipts that it works. As well as studies to other hair growth methods. Sure

LittleOgre
December 20th, 2018, 01:08 PM
Alopecia means the follicles turn off, not that they do not exist. The general scientific understanding is that the number of follicles on your head is a set number, and the only thing of significance is if they are "turned on" or "turned off". I have had alopecia in the past, and can confirm that, yes, you can regrow your hair from the baldness caused by at least some types of alopecia, but that's because the follicles are still there and always have been.

If you want people to take you seriously and believe what you have to say, accuracy in terminology is important, as is information to back your stuff up. I really hope you provide both this time around instead of yelling at us because we "misunderstood" you when you weren't even bothering to explain what you were trying to say because you were too busy yelling at us.


Ah okay fair enough then I take away what I said on new growth hair follicles thats what i meant. turn on. and hmm... fair enough and hmm... I hope I didn't get on your bad side. I wasn't yelling at anyone. We all make mistakes. Don't assume I am against you. Typing words can be very easily misunderstood as hate. :) I'm the shyest girls in real life and how you say it makes it a complete difference so try to assume where I come from.

LittleOgre
December 20th, 2018, 01:19 PM
Yes. Please send. You are posting on a hair forum making the claim of "doubled the growth" from boiling onions. If it has great results before and after would good over a period of six months which would be close to 6" inches half the year if you are retaining that. The bearer of the message should have some "receipts." ☺

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPGDl_gB2o

- This link shows an individual who documents her journey with onion juice. It has worked for me as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csFqH1syNKI

- This girl soaked cayenne pepper in oil for two weeks, took the cayenne out and used the oil. I haven't used this. So why not add. lol.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289931/

- Study on peppermint oil. They used mice.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843973/

- Study on lavender oil. Mice as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25842469

- Study on Rosemary essential oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4740347/

- Study on scalp massages results in thicker hair.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4350143/

- Red Ginseng apparently grows hair as well

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5307826/

- Geranium Sibiricum also grows hair. More than minoxidil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637267/

- Thuja orientalis apparently grows hair as well. You can get it in the form of an essential oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3578824/

- Ginger apparently SLOWS your hair growth rate.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3144892/

- Spermidine grows hair. It is only present in foods. So you can search up what is most spermidine rich.

akurah
December 20th, 2018, 01:22 PM
Ah okay fair enough then I take away what I said on new growth hair follicles thats what i meant. turn on. and hmm... fair enough and hmm... I hope I didn't get on your bad side. I wasn't yelling at anyone. We all make mistakes. Don't assume I am against you. Typing words can be very easily misunderstood as hate. :) I'm the shyest girls in real life and how you say it makes it a complete difference so try to assume where I come from.

Thank you for clarifying. So that I'm not misunderstanding, it sounds like then these treatments are turning on follicles that are not on then? Also thank you for the link to the studies, I'll read them when I get a chance

LittleOgre
December 20th, 2018, 01:54 PM
No problem. :)

Stray_mind
December 20th, 2018, 02:03 PM
Rosemary oil really helped me grow new hair after my stress related shed. Though it is simply because it has antibacterial and antifungal qualities (every non synthetic essential oil does) and stimulates blood circulation which helps distribute more nutrients to the hair follicles.

However i doubt you can grow hair faster than you are genetically predisposed to, so unless your growth has slowed down for health reasons or other circumstances, i don't think anything can help.

My hair already grows a bit less than an inch every month, so i don't expect anything to help me grow even faster.
I am definitely Not putting onions on my scalp lol. Just thinking about the smell of my head makes me shudder.

To each their own though!

*Wednesday*
December 20th, 2018, 02:49 PM
I watched GreenBeauty. She didn’t say what her normal rate of growth was. She just said it grew. She didn’t compare growth speed before and after. What stood out was she said it seemed “thicker” and the overall quality of her hair improved.

I have to read the other links for NCBI more deeply but looking over…. I don’t think it relates to the efficacy of the product for *faster* hair growth or increasing the normal rate of growth = Title of this thread. It seems to be more on growth and re-growth in general. The "scalp message", fig 2-4 scalp massage said it showed no change in “growth rate” however, did show increased thickness.

Cate36
December 20th, 2018, 03:08 PM
So I just wanted to share the things I have been doing and they work. They really work and it's still hard to believe. Since I have micro locks. I have the advantage of having a better accurate measure of my hair growth. The reason being I get a 're tightening ' every month or two and when my hair is re tightened it interlocks my new growth to my scalp. There are YouTube videos on it. For a couple of months I have been implemented onion juice into my hair regimen. I just cut up some onions including the skin and boil it in some water. Strain the water and boil the water until it becomes a mores syrup texture and apply it to my scalp. Leave it for an hour or more and wash it out. I've been seeing some okay results. My hair grew close very close to an inch in a month which is fast for me since originally my hair grew just under 1/2 an inch in a month but I wanted an inch or more. So now it's growing faster. Not only do I do the onion juice every wash. Which is once a week. I also put peppermint essential oil into my shampoo because scientifically it does grow your hair faster and I also bought this oil called wild growth hair oil and I added some peppermint as well to help the smell because it stinks! I am also planning on doing the inversion method and seeing if that works. I will definitely document those results since I have been lazy with my others regiments for hair growth because laziness XD the growth oil has been helping a lot around my edges because I had some bald spots that are filling in the front surprisingly. So now it's been two weeks since my last re tightening and my hair already grew over 1/2 and inch. Amazing! I wanted to tell this to anyone who is looking for any results. The onion juice doesn't have any scientific backing... At least directly with onions but it's theorized it could be the sulfur in the onions but I am not 100% on that.
Peppermint there are studies on that.
Rosemary and lavender as well although I don't use it but I probably should but I do not have the finances time buy every single thing lol.
Monistat I have been planning but I'm not sure... It scares me even though it seems to have gotten results in this community. I have seen some comments where people said there hair fell out but they seemed to be in the minority so it depends on my mood.

One thing for sure even though it doesn't have any studies Cayenne pepper soaked in oil for two weeks and strained definitely works since I saw a video on a girl who used it. I want to try that as well. Possibly make a huge batch to apply everyday and do the wild growth hair oil three times a week.

I'm sure if I drink more water it'll help my hair grow faster as well. I probably need to do that more and those for u who think it's possibly a change in diet. I've been eating worse. To be fair I ate a bowl of carrots once... Trying to eat healthy but failed. I need to do that more but I'm allergic to fresh fruits but I'd much prefer eating them fresh honestly. Anyways just for anyone who wants some ideas.

Here are some studies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPGDl_gB2o

- This link shows an individual who documents her journey with onion juice. It has worked for me as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csFqH1syNKI

- This girl soaked cayenne pepper in oil for two weeks, took the cayenne out and used the oil. I haven't used this. So why not add. lol.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289931/

- Study on peppermint oil. They used mice.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843973/

- Study on lavender oil. Mice as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25842469

- Study on Rosemary essential oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4740347/

- Study on scalp massages results in thicker hair.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4350143/

- Red Ginseng apparently grows hair as well

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5307826/

- Geranium Sibiricum also grows hair. More than minoxidil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637267/

- Thuja orientalis apparently grows hair as well. You can get it in the form of an essential oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3578824/

- Ginger apparently SLOWS your hair growth rate.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3144892/

- Spermidine grows hair. It is only present in foods. So you can search up what is most spermidine rich.

Oooo a blog after my own heart!

I started one a few days ago re what I am doing. I'm measuring from my fringe.. so I can see a little growth weekly..I guess this means I'll be growing my fringe out for a while.. it's already halfway down my nose. :)

In addition to you, I do the inversion technique and drink a gallon of water daily. I take biotin and other growth supplements and eat well (all healthy hair food, protein in the form of oily fish, milk, eggs etc and plenty of fruit and vet) and also use rosemary oil von my scalp to massage...

I have not tried onion water or rice water as so many advocate, but only because my damaged hair doesn't like being washed often and when I do wash it, it is with tons of olaplex soaking on it over night,. and I don't want to change that routine for a while...

Eager to hear how you get on as time progresses :)

Sparkles122
December 20th, 2018, 03:34 PM
Oooo a blog after my own heart!

I started one a few days ago re what I am doing. I'm measuring from my fringe.. so I can see a little growth weekly..I guess this means I'll be growing my fringe out for a while.. it's already halfway down my nose. :)

In addition to you, I do the inversion technique and drink a gallon of water daily. I take biotin and other growth supplements and eat well (all healthy hair food, protein in the form of oily fish, milk, eggs etc and plenty of fruit and vet) and also use rosemary oil von my scalp to massage...

I have not tried onion water or rice water as so many advocate, but only because my damaged hair doesn't like being washed often and when I do wash it, it is with tons of olaplex soaking on it over night,. and I don't want to change that routine for a while...

Eager to hear how you get on as time progresses :)


I too am doing some things different from my “normal routine” and am experiencing growth on a weekly basis, such as eating way more protein, silica supplements, 5ml of blackstrap molasses, and eating gelatin (jello). Nothing too exciting. Maybe I was protein deficient (which is a likely possibilty) and that is why this is “working” or maybe im just losing my mind?

Cate36
December 20th, 2018, 03:37 PM
I too am doing some things different from my “normal routine” and am experiencing growth on a weekly basis, such as eating way more protein, silica supplements, 5ml of blackstrap molasses, and eating gelatin (jello). Nothing too exciting. Maybe I was protein deficient (which is a likely possibilty) and that is why this is “working” or maybe im just losing my mind?

That's interesting.. because someone else told me about gelatin and I forgot to get some...! Apparently, it is good to add a little powder to shampoo..

On another note.. does anyone here find that washing hair less, assists growth? (outside of any breakage issues.. just washing less per'se?) Or no difference?

lapushka
December 20th, 2018, 03:58 PM
On another note.. does anyone here find that washing hair less, assists growth? (outside of any breakage issues.. just washing less per'se?) Or no difference?

I used to have to wash 2/3 times a week. Now I wash once a week. I still get 1/2 inch a month. No difference. Miracles, in my book, don't exist, and whatever sounds too good to be true usually is. I'm a skeptic, I really am!

How does tightening of LOCs occur, microlocs? If it "pulls" at the root, it might be pulling too hard and you might think it's growing when in fact it is pulling.

Sparkles122
December 20th, 2018, 04:01 PM
That's interesting.. because someone else told me about gelatin and I forgot to get some...! Apparently, it is good to add a little powder to shampoo..

On another note.. does anyone here find that washing hair less, assists growth? (outside of any breakage issues.. just washing less per'se?) Or no difference?


I definitely have more shedding and a very greasy scalp from washing less. My scalp absolutely hates me when I do that and I do feel that it grows slower than my normal rate when I try to push it too much and let the oil build up

Cate36
December 20th, 2018, 04:16 PM
I definitely have more shedding and a very greasy scalp from washing less. My scalp absolutely hates me when I do that and I do feel that it grows slower than my normal rate when I try to push it too much and let the oil build up

Hmmmm ok....... how often do you wash Sparkles?

Sparkles122
December 20th, 2018, 04:19 PM
Hmmmm ok....... how often do you wash Sparkles?

When my hair wasnt damaged, I would sometimes wash every day. Now that the crown area is damaged, I wash every other day. If I go every third day I start getting itchy, and If I go anymore than that my scalp definitely shows me it is mad. But I have always had an oily scalp

spidermom
December 20th, 2018, 04:43 PM
I think I'd rather have no hair than put onion juice on my scalp, but to each his (or her) own. I have a big bottle of patience and take a sip from it whenever I get frustrated about my lack of length increase. It seems to work.

LittleHealthy
December 20th, 2018, 04:56 PM
I think I'd rather have no hair than put onion juice on my scalp, but to each his (or her) own. I have a big bottle of patience and take a sip from it whenever I get frustrated about my lack of length increase. It seems to work.

Crochet is a great hair growth formulation of mine, I take it daily!

I get so excited if I found another month has passed and all of a sudden my hair has grown. Focusing on it drives me crazy.

*Wednesday*
December 20th, 2018, 05:09 PM
I too am doing some things different from my “normal routine” and am experiencing growth on a weekly basis..?

Really? How much? Hair grows about .35 mil daily.

Sparkles122
December 20th, 2018, 05:14 PM
https://postimg.cc/sQ8dDGqx

My hair is pulled back in these pictures but I also have ones with it down

This is over 3 weeks exactly. I was getting probably about half an inch prior to this, and now im getting close to an inch a month. But like I said this is most likely due to protein deficiency and the fact that I am underweight on my way to a healthier weight

Wendyclaire
December 20th, 2018, 05:14 PM
Ohhhhh no! No way I’d ever put onion juice on my hair! Please don’t take this the wrong way but I think hair and skin health comes from the inside out. Why not just take a good hair vitamin and use some good hair products?

lapushka
December 20th, 2018, 05:17 PM
https://postimg.cc/sQ8dDGqx

My hair is pulled back in these pictures but I also have ones with it down

This is over 3 weeks exactly. I was getting probably about half an inch prior to this, and now im getting close to an inch a month. But like I said this is most likely due to protein deficiency and the fact that I am underweight on my way to a healthier weight

Oh yep, weight issues, that explains a lot in fact.

Average hair growth is 6 inches a year. For some 4 inches is as good as it gets, others may get 8 inches or a tad more; it's all very relative. I'd first establish a base line, and see what your "normal" growth is like when you are healthy (a good weight, good diet). Then see what all those "tricks" do. ;)

But before a good baseline, all results are skewed.

Sparkles122
December 20th, 2018, 05:21 PM
Oh yep, weight issues, that explains a lot in fact.

Average hair growth is 6 inches a year. For some 4 inches is as good as it gets, others may get 8 inches or a tad more; it's all very relative. I'd first establish a base line, and see what your "normal" growth is like when you are healthy (a good weight, good diet). Then see what all those "tricks" do. ;)

But before a good baseline, all results are skewed.


Yes, thats why I said mine is most likely due to protein deficiency. Theres no way in this world i would put onion juice on my hair or monistat, or any of those things. The only things I would try in my hair is blackstrap molasses and castor oil, but only because they are known to make your hair darker, not to see if they would make it grow

Sparkles122
December 20th, 2018, 05:22 PM
Oh yep, weight issues, that explains a lot in fact.

Average hair growth is 6 inches a year. For some 4 inches is as good as it gets, others may get 8 inches or a tad more; it's all very relative. I'd first establish a base line, and see what your "normal" growth is like when you are healthy (a good weight, good diet). Then see what all those "tricks" do. ;)

But before a good baseline, all results are skewed.



For a few years I have been underweight, so starting in January with my new eating habits, im going to try to get a good baseline for this year

ravenheather
December 20th, 2018, 05:24 PM
You know I'd be afraid to share something that was working for me, because I'd be afraid of being roasted for not producing a peer reviewed study. I didn't see op yell once but I did see a whole lot of people give her a hard time. She just shared what worked for her. Give her a break.

aethyra
December 20th, 2018, 06:46 PM
I am going to try the onion juice and the wild hair oil. The geranium is interesting too! Thank you for posting this!

Stray_mind
December 20th, 2018, 10:10 PM
You know I'd be afraid to share something that was working for me, because I'd be afraid of being roasted for not producing a peer reviewed study. I didn't see op yell once but I did see a whole lot of people give her a hard time. She just shared what worked for her. Give her a break.

I am sorry, but if you claim your content is based on scientific evidence, you should provide a scientific source material to it.

I can say Anything and claim it is scientifically proven, but then not provide annything to support that claim... That is how most marketing is done to gullible people lol.

Nobody is yelling at OP. We are having a discussion. Isn't that what this community is for? :shrug:

akurah
December 20th, 2018, 10:26 PM
You know I'd be afraid to share something that was working for me, because I'd be afraid of being roasted for not producing a peer reviewed study. I didn't see op yell once but I did see a whole lot of people give her a hard time. She just shared what worked for her. Give her a break.

If you had read OP's other threads, you would be familiar with what I was talking about.

Lady Stardust
December 21st, 2018, 03:18 AM
I am going to try the onion juice and the wild hair oil. The geranium is interesting too! Thank you for posting this!

There are a number of threads about onion juice, have a read of those first because as far as I remember there are a lot of comments about not being able to get rid of the smell for weeks :)

Yousra
December 21st, 2018, 06:30 AM
Usually my hair grows 1-2 cm a month. Since mid-November, I set myself the challenge to grow my hair faster and helthier.
Between November 15 and December 15, they grew 6 cm! Incredible but true! I know it will not happen every month but there are things that accelerate hair growth.

During this month, I applied 2-3 times a week the scalp treatment of The innate life on my scalp and coconut oil on the lengths and ends. Just after the application I do scalp massages with the inversion method for 5 minutes and I keep this mask all night for a wash the next day.
I also did 2-3 times during this month a mask with egg-olive oil and honey. I also add a few drops of essential oil of rosemary to my shampoo and I take vitamins for hair (Forcapil).

With that, I took 6 cm in one month! So, yes we can accelerate the growth in my opinion. Another very effective remedy that I tried in the past but is less pleasant than the scalp treatment I am currently using: castor oil! Very effective for hair growth.

lapushka
December 21st, 2018, 08:46 AM
Usually my hair grows 1-2 cm a month. Since mid-November, I set myself the challenge to grow my hair faster and helthier.
Between November 15 and December 15, they grew 6 cm! Incredible but true! I know it will not happen every month but there are things that accelerate hair growth.

During this month, I applied 2-3 times a week the scalp treatment of The innate life on my scalp and coconut oil on the lengths and ends. Just after the application I do scalp massages with the inversion method for 5 minutes and I keep this mask all night for a wash the next day.
I also did 2-3 times during this month a mask with egg-olive oil and honey. I also add a few drops of essential oil of rosemary to my shampoo and I take vitamins for hair (Forcapil).

With that, I took 6 cm in one month! So, yes we can accelerate the growth in my opinion. Another very effective remedy that I tried in the past but is less pleasant than the scalp treatment I am currently using: castor oil! Very effective for hair growth.

You can make me believe a lot, but 6 cm in a month is 6x the normal growth. I find that hard to believe, maybe that's just me. ;)

Are you sure you measured your hair correctly?

*Wednesday*
December 21st, 2018, 11:05 AM
You can make me believe a lot, but 6 cm in a month is 6x the normal growth. I find that hard to believe, maybe that's just me. ;)

Are you sure you measured your hair correctly?

In inches that is a little over 2". 😕

Gwyned
December 21st, 2018, 01:44 PM
You know I'd be afraid to share something that was working for me, because I'd be afraid of being roasted for not producing a peer reviewed study. I didn't see op yell once but I did see a whole lot of people give her a hard time. She just shared what worked for her. Give her a break.

Exactly. She's not selling anything. She clearly is not instructing others to do what she is doing. She is just trying something and thought she would share and now is being drilled as if she is peddling some product. Which a lot of these girls do. ALL THE TIME and nobody ever has ANYTHING to say about it.

I'm a skeptic. I generally don't confirm or deny things that I cannot prove. However, I'm not going to sit here and tell someone they need to provide a 300 page dissertation proving their OPINION. OPINION. Not FACT. Opinion. I mean... Some of these threads are absolutely ridiculous. Well studies have showed that hair only grows half an inch per month. Guess what? Mines grows an inch per month. Uh-oh. Better call the cops on this one. No scientific study to prove her hair growth rate. LOL.

People have been trying to find ways to grow their hair faster for millenia. None of this is new. W/E.

Gwyned
December 21st, 2018, 01:51 PM
If you had read OP's other threads, you would be familiar with what I was talking about.

Nobody has time to rummage through an entire profile looking for bits and pieces of what someone thinks is bothersome about another person. If this person is problematic, their profile needs to be reported. Why continuously engage with someone when they clearly are incapable of producing responses you feel are adequate.

Gwyned
December 21st, 2018, 01:56 PM
I am sorry, but if you claim your content is based on scientific evidence, you should provide a scientific source material to it.

I can say Anything and claim it is scientifically proven, but then not provide annything to support that claim... That is how most marketing is done to gullible people lol.

Nobody is yelling at OP. We are having a discussion. Isn't that what this community is for? :shrug:

Clearly this person said what they thought. They thought it was scientifically proven because they had seen a few videos not understand the process behind actually scientifically proving things. You're absolutely right. Anyone can claim that something is scientifically proven. And you're also right about gullible people just going for it. It appears that people here are adults with thinking brains that know how to question things and make rational decisions.

No one is yelling at the OP but, again, why continue to engage with someone when they aren't saying what you want to hear? Why engage with someone that isn't making much sense? What is the end goal?

Gwyned
December 21st, 2018, 02:01 PM
LOL. It's 2018 and y'all are still entertaining people who are talking about how their hair grew 28 inches this month. SMH. There is still so much about this topic that we don't understand.

I've heard good things about essential oils, onion juice, herbs, garlic juice. I couldn't use them myself. A lot of essential oils make my head hurt. I do like scalp massages. It makes my scalp feel good. I'm not sure how it affects thickness (if it affects thickness). I was thinking about this as I was massaging my scalp the other day. It's kind of like how some people believe brushing your skin cleanses or invigorates the lymphatic system. I'm not saying I know it works (or doesn't). I'm saying I don't know. I don't understand, but it's interesting to me.

Gwyned
December 21st, 2018, 02:08 PM
Usually my hair grows 1-2 cm a month. Since mid-November, I set myself the challenge to grow my hair faster and helthier.
Between November 15 and December 15, they grew 6 cm! Incredible but true! I know it will not happen every month but there are things that accelerate hair growth.

During this month, I applied 2-3 times a week the scalp treatment of The innate life on my scalp and coconut oil on the lengths and ends. Just after the application I do scalp massages with the inversion method for 5 minutes and I keep this mask all night for a wash the next day.
I also did 2-3 times during this month a mask with egg-olive oil and honey. I also add a few drops of essential oil of rosemary to my shampoo and I take vitamins for hair (Forcapil).

With that, I took 6 cm in one month! So, yes we can accelerate the growth in my opinion. Another very effective remedy that I tried in the past but is less pleasant than the scalp treatment I am currently using: castor oil! Very effective for hair growth.

Geez louise! 50 billion inches in a month? LOL. There used to be a website called Fotki, I don't know if it exists anymore. And a woman I used to follow there ( I can't remember her name) said that one month her hair grew 4 inches. Randomly. But people were leaving comments saying that there have been months where they have gotten 2 inches. The woman in question had a picture. To this day, I can't wrap my head around how it's possible. At the time she had taken the picture, she claimed she was just using oils on her hair and keeping it up in buns. That picture got her a lot of attention and she started selling products. I maintain my skepticism. There are lots of unanswered questions. I don't think two inches is completely impossible. Only because I've heard some people say they get double growth. My hair grows an inch per month. So if I ate better, exercised and was healthy--maybe it would grow more. Maybe not. I don't know.

A few years back, I was in love with rosemary oil. Not anymore.

Gwyned
December 21st, 2018, 02:18 PM
I think I'd rather have no hair than put onion juice on my scalp, but to each his (or her) own. I have a big bottle of patience and take a sip from it whenever I get frustrated about my lack of length increase. It seems to work.

Amen to that. LOL.

LittleOgre
December 21st, 2018, 03:47 PM
I watched GreenBeauty. She didn’t say what her normal rate of growth was. She just said it grew. She didn’t compare growth speed before and after. What stood out was she said it seemed “thicker” and the overall quality of her hair improved.

I have to read the other links for NCBI more deeply but looking over…. I don’t think it relates to the efficacy of the product for *faster* hair growth or increasing the normal rate of growth = Title of this thread. It seems to be more on growth and re-growth in general. The "scalp message", fig 2-4 scalp massage said it showed no change in “growth rate” however, did show increased thickness.

That's what I said well on scalp massages at least and of course we all have a predisposed growth rage but for many reasons. Most of us have not reached that rate. So we have many methods that encourage to meet the maximum. I learned that I have maximum over 1 inch which is pretty awesome. XD

LittleOgre
December 21st, 2018, 03:56 PM
I used to have to wash 2/3 times a week. Now I wash once a week. I still get 1/2 inch a month. No difference. Miracles, in my book, don't exist, and whatever sounds too good to be true usually is. I'm a skeptic, I really am!

How does tightening of LOCs occur, microlocs? If it "pulls" at the root, it might be pulling too hard and you might think it's growing when in fact it is pulling.

https://youtu.be/nHV4I_KgJf4

Here is a link for an example on what I mean when my hair is re tightened. It's permanent interlocked until new growth comes in and when the new growth get a to much. I interlock it again. If it pulls to hard. I'll lose my hair and get a headache.

LittleOgre
December 21st, 2018, 03:59 PM
Rosemary oil really helped me grow new hair after my stress related shed. Though it is simply because it has antibacterial and antifungal qualities (every non synthetic essential oil does) and stimulates blood circulation which helps distribute more nutrients to the hair follicles.

However i doubt you can grow hair faster than you are genetically predisposed to, so unless your growth has slowed down for health reasons or other circumstances, i don't think anything can help.

My hair already grows a bit less than an inch every month, so i don't expect anything to help me grow even faster.
I am definitely Not putting onions on my scalp lol. Just thinking about the smell of my head makes me shudder.

To each their own though!

Of course everyone has a genetic predisposed hair growth rate but we all have a genetic maximum. How do you know you have reached it. And the way I do it. Makes the smell gone. Since I boil it down. And I apply it to my scalp. I usually forget I have in on and wash it out. XD it's not a huge deal. But to each is own.

Cate36
December 21st, 2018, 04:00 PM
Usually my hair grows 1-2 cm a month. Since mid-November, I set myself the challenge to grow my hair faster and helthier.
Between November 15 and December 15, they grew 6 cm! Incredible but true! I know it will not happen every month but there are things that accelerate hair growth.

During this month, I applied 2-3 times a week the scalp treatment of The innate life on my scalp and coconut oil on the lengths and ends. Just after the application I do scalp massages with the inversion method for 5 minutes and I keep this mask all night for a wash the next day.
I also did 2-3 times during this month a mask with egg-olive oil and honey. I also add a few drops of essential oil of rosemary to my shampoo and I take vitamins for hair (Forcapil).

With that, I took 6 cm in one month! So, yes we can accelerate the growth in my opinion. Another very effective remedy that I tried in the past but is less pleasant than the scalp treatment I am currently using: castor oil! Very effective for hair growth.

Is there one thing on that list that you think contributed more than others?

LittleOgre
December 21st, 2018, 04:01 PM
I think I'd rather have no hair than put onion juice on my scalp, but to each his (or her) own. I have a big bottle of patience and take a sip from it whenever I get frustrated about my lack of length increase. It seems to work.

I never get frustrated. I'm always excited mainly and I find it fun and fascinating. Not sure what to call that xD

LittleOgre
December 21st, 2018, 04:03 PM
Ohhhhh no! No way I’d ever put onion juice on my hair! Please don’t take this the wrong way but I think hair and skin health comes from the inside out. Why not just take a good hair vitamin and use some good hair products?

I'm planning on taking vitamins... Lol

Cate36
December 21st, 2018, 04:19 PM
Re Onion Juice.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg2bg606DKs (I really like this lady's channel.. she runs a clinic that specialises in hair loss and has a lot of good tips.)

LittleOgre
December 21st, 2018, 04:22 PM
Oh yep, weight issues, that explains a lot in fact.

Average hair growth is 6 inches a year. For some 4 inches is as good as it gets, others may get 8 inches or a tad more; it's all very relative. I'd first establish a base line, and see what your "normal" growth is like when you are healthy (a good weight, good diet). Then see what all those "tricks" do. ;)

But before a good baseline, all results are skewed.

Have you ever thought of trying anything for yourself? Just out of curiosity or have you?


Yes, thats why I said mine is most likely due to protein deficiency. Theres no way in this world i would put onion juice on my hair or monistat, or any of those things. The only things I would try in my hair is blackstrap molasses and castor oil, but only because they are known to make your hair darker, not to see if they would make it grow


Blackstrap molasses darkens your hair? I have been trying to find a natural dye besides henna since its so permannet. Does it darken your hair or just ur roots and new growth?


If you had read OP's other threads, you would be familiar with what I was talking about.

Why don't you have several people corner you and accuse you of things and make you feel bad xD No hard feelings though. -.-


There are a number of threads about onion juice, have a read of those first because as far as I remember there are a lot of comments about not being able to get rid of the smell for weeks :)

I haven't had a smell... probably because I use the yellow onions and I boil them including the skin.


Usually my hair grows 1-2 cm a month. Since mid-November, I set myself the challenge to grow my hair faster and helthier.
Between November 15 and December 15, they grew 6 cm! Incredible but true! I know it will not happen every month but there are things that accelerate hair growth.

During this month, I applied 2-3 times a week the scalp treatment of The innate life on my scalp and coconut oil on the lengths and ends. Just after the application I do scalp massages with the inversion method for 5 minutes and I keep this mask all night for a wash the next day.
I also did 2-3 times during this month a mask with egg-olive oil and honey. I also add a few drops of essential oil of rosemary to my shampoo and I take vitamins for hair (Forcapil).

With that, I took 6 cm in one month! So, yes we can accelerate the growth in my opinion. Another very effective remedy that I tried in the past but is less pleasant than the scalp treatment I am currently using: castor oil! Very effective for hair growth.

The innate life? Ill have to look into that. I am planning on getting rosemary essential oil and possibly onion oil. not the essential oil though.. it stinks! i heard from the reviews.


You can make me believe a lot, but 6 cm in a month is 6x the normal growth. I find that hard to believe, maybe that's just me. ;)

Are you sure you measured your hair correctly?

Why don't you try? Just to see if it works for yourself

amiraaah
December 21st, 2018, 05:22 PM
I love making hair oils so much.i prepare an oil at least every month and use it for a very short period of time then make another oil.i tried literally everything;onion oil-garlic oil-carrot oil-onion juice-black seed infused oil-green pepper infused olive oil-mixing a bunch of oils together-rice water-rosemary water-shea butter-eggs-arugula and olive oil the list goes on...everything you see on the internet i have tried it and not once or twice.
From my experience,nothing makes your hair grow faster except a healthy diet(which works only if you have a deficiency).however some of these oils helped me really well with my dandruff,hair texture and hair fall.
For example rice water and rosemary water make my hair very soft.an indian oil i bought before (i talked about it in a thread) stopped my hair fall completely which was insane.

LittleOgre
December 21st, 2018, 06:53 PM
I love making hair oils so much.i prepare an oil at least every month and use it for a very short period of time then make another oil.i tried literally everything;onion oil-garlic oil-carrot oil-onion juice-black seed infused oil-green pepper infused olive oil-mixing a bunch of oils together-rice water-rosemary water-shea butter-eggs-arugula and olive oil the list goes on...everything you see on the internet i have tried it and not once or twice.
From my experience,nothing makes your hair grow faster except a healthy diet(which works only if you have a deficiency).however some of these oils helped me really well with my dandruff,hair texture and hair fall.
For example rice water and rosemary water make my hair very soft.an indian oil i bought before (i talked about it in a thread) stopped my hair fall completely which was insane.

Possibly it depends on the person. Once or twice isn't enough. I only saw results putting oil in my scalp daily and doing the juice treatment every week when I wash my hair. But it all depends I guess. Do you mind referring me on the Indian oil? I'd love to try 🙂 I heard of rice water but I can't do it because of the protein... And I'm afraid it'll make my hair hard and brittle.

amiraaah
December 21st, 2018, 09:01 PM
Possibly it depends on the person. Once or twice isn't enough. I only saw results putting oil in my scalp daily and doing the juice treatment every week when I wash my hair. But it all depends I guess. Do you mind referring me on the Indian oil? I'd love to try �� I heard of rice water but I can't do it because of the protein... And I'm afraid it'll make my hair hard and brittle.

I said not once or twice any oil i try i use it for at least a month and all oils work the same for me (no growth).the indian oil is trichup i think it’s 80% sesame oil with some coconut oil and other herbs.
I want to add something my mom and her bestie are strong believers in the power of oils.i have to admit this her friend’s hair used to be so short and never grows.she used onion juice and green pepper soaked in olive oil Alternatively and her hair grew(which is so strange).another thing(i mentioned this alot)my mom used an oil named parachute on my hair when i was a little kid.an indian woman told her about it because my hair was very short and my mom hates short hair.my hair grew to tailbone and got so thick at that time.people used to talk about my hair and how i got to that length when i was just 5 years old.

Obsidian
December 21st, 2018, 11:39 PM
I've used monistat in the past, it definitely made my hair grow faster but I also got really dizzy for weeks after. The first time I thought it was coincidence, the second time I knew it was the cause.

I tried onion before but it stunk so bad. I was using straight raw onion juice though. Didn't stick with it long enough to see any results. Might try your boiled onion recipe

LittleOgre
December 22nd, 2018, 05:15 AM
I've used monistat in the past, it definitely made my hair grow faster but I also got really dizzy for weeks after. The first time I thought it was coincidence, the second time I knew it was the cause.

I tried onion before but it stunk so bad. I was using straight raw onion juice though. Didn't stick with it long enough to see any results. Might try your boiled onion recipe

How much growth did you experience with the monistat. And yeah would never put it raw on my head... Cutting them raw already makes my eyes burn lol. XD definitely try them boiled it gets rid of the stinkness and you just smell a hint of onion.

Obsidian
December 22nd, 2018, 05:30 AM
I got around 1/4" a week so roughly double my normal growth. If I could have applied it weekly, I'm sure I would have gotten a inch in a month.

LittleOgre
December 22nd, 2018, 06:07 AM
I said not once or twice any oil i try i use it for at least a month and all oils work the same for me (no growth).the indian oil is trichup i think it’s 80% sesame oil with some coconut oil and other herbs.
I want to add something my mom and her bestie are strong believers in the power of oils.i have to admit this her friend’s hair used to be so short and never grows.she used onion juice and green pepper soaked in olive oil Alternatively and her hair grew(which is so strange).another thing(i mentioned this alot)my mom used an oil named parachute on my hair when i was a little kid.an indian woman told her about it because my hair was very short and my mom hates short hair.my hair grew to tailbone and got so thick at that time.people used to talk about my hair and how i got to that length when i was just 5 years old.

Are you Indian? I know they have great hair

LittleOgre
December 22nd, 2018, 06:38 AM
I got around 1/4" a week so roughly double my normal growth. If I could have applied it weekly, I'm sure I would have gotten a inch in a month.

I'm already gaining more than an inch a month but I wonder if I tried monistat if it would work and grow even more

amiraaah
December 22nd, 2018, 06:43 AM
Are you Indian? I know they have great hair

No i’m half egyptian and half moroccan.

LittleOgre
December 22nd, 2018, 10:41 AM
No i’m half egyptian and half moroccan.

How much does your hair grow on average? Maybe you're at your maximum xD

amiraaah
December 22nd, 2018, 10:56 AM
How much does your hair grow on average? Maybe you're at your maximum xD
My hair grows 1.25 cm a month which is the standard for most of people.however when i eat better my hair grows 1.5 or 1.75 per month.as i said before no oil makes my hair grow faster but maybe it’s just my case.however,scalp massages are awesome whenever i massage my scalp i feel it gets warm and blood flows in my head.

LittleOgre
December 22nd, 2018, 11:04 AM
My hair grows 1.25 cm a month which is the standard for most of people.however when i eat better my hair grows 1.5 or 1.75 per month.as i said before no oil makes my hair grow faster but maybe it’s just my case.however,scalp massages are awesome whenever i massage my scalp i feel it gets warm and blood flows in my head.

Have you tried the inversion method at least? And fair enough. I need to eat more healthy as well.

amiraaah
December 22nd, 2018, 11:17 AM
Have you tried the inversion method at least? And fair enough. I need to eat more healthy as well.

I tried it 3 times as far as i can remember but it’s a huge scam.now i massage my scalp according to a video i saw in a youtube channel titled realrepunzels.i don’t know if it does work but i do feel something different as i mentioned when massaging.i feel warmth also when i apply mustard oil to my scalp.

LittleOgre
December 22nd, 2018, 12:38 PM
I tried it 3 times as far as i can remember but it’s a huge scam.now i massage my scalp according to a video i saw in a youtube channel titled realrepunzels.i don’t know if it does work but i do feel something different as i mentioned when massaging.i feel warmth also when i apply mustard oil to my scalp.

Im not sure if its a scam. I'm doing it right now and documenting every single thing to see if it works. Just to be accurate I put rubber bands at my roots on 4 locs.

-Fern
December 22nd, 2018, 12:43 PM
[Redacted.]

Ylva
December 22nd, 2018, 12:49 PM
Without the inversion method/other scalp massages, my hair grows about 1 cm a month, and with the inversion method/other scalp massages, my hair grows around 1.25 cm a month. It's not a gigantic difference, but I wouldn't call it a scam. It just increases the blood flow to your scalp while some oils/essential oils might contribute a little bit. Might not work for everyone, but certainly has given me results. When I first started doing it, I got around 1 cm of growth in a week (on fresh roots, so I could see it clearly), but that has never occurred since then.

I don't have photos of the 1 cm root to "prove" it, but in the end it would prove nothing that I show a pic of 1 cm roots. :D I could have taken it whenever. So I don't particularly care if people believe what I say or not, just sharing my experience on the inversion method and why I continue to do it over a year later.

Gwyned
December 22nd, 2018, 01:45 PM
I think inversion method is great, Ylva. I think it's different than a scalp massage. I feel like my results are different. I used to do the inversion method one week per month. My hair would grow more than an inch per month. It normally grows an inch per month. So yeah. I'm with you. It's not a ton more, but it's more. I don't know. If you feel like it works you should continue to do it! Plus it makes me scalp feel sooooooooo good. :)

amiraaah
December 22nd, 2018, 01:55 PM
I’m happy that it works for both of you and i have no reason to not believe what you said.but for me it never works and i don’t know why.I’m sure it does not work for everybody .

LittleOgre
December 22nd, 2018, 02:37 PM
Without the inversion method/other scalp massages, my hair grows about 1 cm a month, and with the inversion method/other scalp massages, my hair grows around 1.25 cm a month. It's not a gigantic difference, but I wouldn't call it a scam. It just increases the blood flow to your scalp while some oils/essential oils might contribute a little bit. Might not work for everyone, but certainly has given me results. When I first started doing it, I got around 1 cm of growth in a week (on fresh roots, so I could see it clearly), but that has never occurred since then.

I don't have photos of the 1 cm root to "prove" it, but in the end it would prove nothing that I show a pic of 1 cm roots. :D I could have taken it whenever. So I don't particularly care if people believe what I say or not, just sharing my experience on the inversion method and why I continue to do it over a year later.

How did you do the inversion method for yourself?

Ylva
December 22nd, 2018, 02:47 PM
How did you do the inversion method for yourself?

I do it kind of continuously as a part of my usual haircare routine rather than one week per month as some people recommend. I make a mix of various oils - right now I'm using sweet almond oil, castor oil, neem oil, vitamin E oil and peppermint and tea tree EOs as I'm working on using up my oil stash. Otherwise my staple would be JBCO mixed with the EOs and some runnier oil. I warm it up in a ceramic bowl that's floating in warm water in the sink. Then I apply it on my scalp evenly standing upright, and once I've gotten through the oil, I place my head upside down and massage my scalp for as long as I can bother, which tends to be a few minutes.

I can't bother doing this every time prior to washing my hair, so on the in-between days I just massage my scalp otherwise, upside down or not. :)

lapushka
December 22nd, 2018, 05:57 PM
Why don't you try? Just to see if it works for yourself

I have no intention to use onion juice on my scalp. My experimenting days are over!

LittleOgre
December 22nd, 2018, 06:01 PM
I have no intention to use onion juice on my scalp. My experimenting days are over!

Fair enough. Mines is just beginning xD

Cate36
December 22nd, 2018, 06:02 PM
Of course.. one thing that hasn't been mentioned is sex for boosting hair growth... http://itsaglamthing.com/2017/11/13/is-sex-good-for-hair-growth-yes-heres-why/

I'm not sure how you would judge the before and after results.. but.. it could be fun ....

blackgothicdoll
December 22nd, 2018, 06:33 PM
Of course.. one thing that hasn't been mentioned is sex for boosting hair growth... http://itsaglamthing.com/2017/11/13/is-sex-good-for-hair-growth-yes-heres-why/

I'm not sure how you would judge the before and after results.. but.. it could be fun ....

:/

Use protection.

LittleOgre
December 22nd, 2018, 06:35 PM
:/

Use protection.

Lol. Yes use protection please XD

Ylva
December 22nd, 2018, 06:42 PM
Of course.. one thing that hasn't been mentioned is sex for boosting hair growth... http://itsaglamthing.com/2017/11/13/is-sex-good-for-hair-growth-yes-heres-why/

I'm not sure how you would judge the before and after results.. but.. it could be fun ....

Hahahahah.

Soon there'll be threads popping up, "looking for someone to grow hair with"... :eyebrows:

Cate36
December 22nd, 2018, 06:52 PM
Lol. Yes use protection please XD

lol good point.. I'm figuring doing it without a partner is more fun with the same effects and no emotional hassles..

blackgothicdoll
December 22nd, 2018, 07:01 PM
Hahahahah.

Soon there'll be threads popping up, "looking for someone to grow hair with"... :eyebrows:

Lol!! :p

10char

blackgothicdoll
December 22nd, 2018, 07:02 PM
lol good point.. I'm figuring doing it without a partner is more fun with the same effects and no emotional hassles..

Hmmm....

Who's going to start the "masturbate to goal length 2019" thread?

lapushka
December 23rd, 2018, 03:38 AM
Hahahahah.

Soon there'll be threads popping up, "looking for someone to grow hair with"... :eyebrows:

Ylva, you crack me up! :spitting:

Cate36
December 23rd, 2018, 04:03 AM
Ylva, you crack me up! :spitting:

Well... we're a dedicated lot.. and if it helps grow hair faster..... :cool:

Actually I have been considering a hormone test to see how I'm doing.. my periods are regular and my sex drive normal, so . figured all was OK... but I know hormones can affect hair as much as diet.. so... Anyone else done one?

lapushka
December 23rd, 2018, 04:53 AM
Well... we're a dedicated lot.. and if it helps grow hair faster..... :cool:

Actually I have been considering a hormone test to see how I'm doing.. my periods are regular and my sex drive normal, so . figured all was OK... but I know hormones can affect hair as much as diet.. so... Anyone else done one?

I have had a hormone check done age 42. Had to get off BC for 3 months and then blood was drawn. This to see if I was in menopause yet. Because my mom was fully menopausal by age 42. But all was still well.

So in that sense, I had a hormone check.

Cate36
December 23rd, 2018, 02:29 PM
I have had a hormone check done age 42. Had to get off BC for 3 months and then blood was drawn. This to see if I was in menopause yet. Because my mom was fully menopausal by age 42. But all was still well.

So in that sense, I had a hormone check.

What is BC? Oh Birth control? I don't take it at the moment.. I had thought about going back on it so I could start the "find a partner to grow hair with.." challenge ;) but I read somewhere that it can cause hair loss?

Ylva
December 23rd, 2018, 02:39 PM
What is BC? Oh Birth control? I don't take it at the moment.. I had thought about going back on it so I could start the "find a partner to grow hair with.." challenge ;) but I read somewhere that it can cause hair loss?

Let's face it - most things in life probably cause hair loss one way or another, but we can't stop living for the sake of growing hair. Relax. It probably won't affect your hair in any way.

LittleOgre
December 23rd, 2018, 03:59 PM
Let's face it - most things in life probably cause hair loss one way or another, but we can't stop living for the sake of growing hair. Relax. It probably won't affect your hair in any way.

I heard if birth control was created todaym it wouldn't be manufactured today because of how unsafe it is for human consumption but it's to late
They figured out a male birth control but since it's causing similar issues with female birth control they don't allow it to be manufactured. A lot of people complained about it that the guys drugs was treated with more care but don't realize birth control was created in the 50s I think with lack of regulation. It has a lot of symptoms people don't realize which is why I don't take it... When I learned about this I got cautious taking a lot of drugs people take so easily like Tylenol.

lapushka
December 23rd, 2018, 04:17 PM
I heard if birth control was created todaym it wouldn't be manufactured today because of how unsafe it is for human consumption but it's to late
They figured out a male birth control but since it's causing similar issues with female birth control they don't allow it to be manufactured. A lot of people complained about it that the guys drugs was treated with more care but don't realize birth control was created in the 50s I think with lack of regulation. It has a lot of symptoms people don't realize which is why I don't take it... When I learned about this I got cautious taking a lot of drugs people take so easily like Tylenol.

If it were truly "unsafe", it would not be on the market.

blackgothicdoll
December 23rd, 2018, 04:22 PM
I heard if birth control was created todaym it wouldn't be manufactured today because of how unsafe it is for human consumption but it's to late
They figured out a male birth control but since it's causing similar issues with female birth control they don't allow it to be manufactured. A lot of people complained about it that the guys drugs was treated with more care but don't realize birth control was created in the 50s I think with lack of regulation. It has a lot of symptoms people don't realize which is why I don't take it... When I learned about this I got cautious taking a lot of drugs people take so easily like Tylenol.

Yeah sure. I suffer from the worst cramps possible, literally debilitating. I have to take the day off of work the first two days of my period if they fall on a work day, because I cannot get out of bed. The only alternative to this was percocet, which as you can guess was not helpful in making me a productive citizen.

Birth control regulates my periods so that I don't have to take sick leave every month, excessive amounts of motrin (upwards of 1600mg a day for three or four days), and did I mention mood swings that caused suicidal thoughts? The side effects for me are far better than that side effects I encountered on 3 years worth of SSRIs....

No, it's not for everyone, but I wouldn't convince anyone not to take something that they may need for one reason or another, whether it's a situation like mine or simply a contraceptive. There is not a single medicine on this planet that does not have a side effect, as that is the nature of any chemical compound, natural or not.

Ylva
December 23rd, 2018, 04:28 PM
I heard if birth control was created todaym it wouldn't be manufactured today because of how unsafe it is for human consumption but it's to late
They figured out a male birth control but since it's causing similar issues with female birth control they don't allow it to be manufactured. A lot of people complained about it that the guys drugs was treated with more care but don't realize birth control was created in the 50s I think with lack of regulation. It has a lot of symptoms people don't realize which is why I don't take it... When I learned about this I got cautious taking a lot of drugs people take so easily like Tylenol.

In a way I agree with that. Women have been the "test pigs" of these hormonal alterations for decades now and it's pretty vulgar to be honest. All proper birth control is pretty safe these days, but of course not for everyone. I personally have one of those T things (I don't know what it's called in English!), a hormonal one at that rather than copper, and I think it's the most local option of all other than condoms and such. I like that it doesn't really alter how my body works. But this is becoming a bit off-topic now.

LittleOgre
December 23rd, 2018, 08:38 PM
If it were truly "unsafe", it would not be on the market.

It's to late. If we were to take away birth control because of the current regulations rather than when it was passed which was in a time where there were very little regulations on drugs there would be a lot of outcries. All you have to do is do ur own research. Female birth control is unsafe but the time it was passed. There wasn't as much knowledge on how unsafe it was. Those were the times where they gave pregnant women drugs they didn't know that would cause deformities in their children!

LittleOgre
December 23rd, 2018, 08:41 PM
Yeah sure. I suffer from the worst cramps possible, literally debilitating. I have to take the day off of work the first two days of my period if they fall on a work day, because I cannot get out of bed. The only alternative to this was percocet, which as you can guess was not helpful in making me a productive citizen.

Birth control regulates my periods so that I don't have to take sick leave every month, excessive amounts of motrin (upwards of 1600mg a day for three or four days), and did I mention mood swings that caused suicidal thoughts? The side effects for me are far better than that side effects I encountered on 3 years worth of SSRIs....

No, it's not for everyone, but I wouldn't convince anyone not to take something that they may need for one reason or another, whether it's a situation like mine or simply a contraceptive. There is not a single medicine on this planet that does not have a side effect, as that is the nature of any chemical compound, natural or not.

Omg the same things happen to me! I turn in a depressive psycho on my period and my period is literally 7-12 hours of unbearable pain where just laying down hurts. For me personally I noticed it mainly happens when I eat horrible. When I eat more healthy. Drink lots of water. It doesn't happen. I understand though. :)

LittleOgre
December 23rd, 2018, 08:43 PM
In a way I agree with that. Women have been the "test pigs" of these hormonal alterations for decades now and it's pretty vulgar to be honest. All proper birth control is pretty safe these days, but of course not for everyone. I personally have one of those T things (I don't know what it's called in English!), a hormonal one at that rather than copper, and I think it's the most local option of all other than condoms and such. I like that it doesn't really alter how my body works. But this is becoming a bit off-topic now.

Female birth control is definitely not safe. It only passed because the regulations for drugs at the time were not the same as now. I don't think women were test pigs on purpose. The public and doctors lacked the knowledge we have now on how unsafe drugs can be. But you can simply take away birth control like that. Tylenol is the same thing. It shouldnt be manufactured to the public. People take it like nothing but don't realize how easily liver damage with those pills.

blackgothicdoll
December 23rd, 2018, 08:56 PM
Female birth control is definitely not safe. It only passed because the regulations for drugs at the time were not the same as now. I don't think women were test pigs on purpose. The public and doctors lacked the knowledge we have now on how unsafe drugs can be. But you can simply take away birth control like that. Tylenol is the same thing. It shouldnt be manufactured to the public. People take it like nothing but don't realize how easily liver damage with those pills.

What source are you using for this information? The medicine you're speaking of that caused deformities is thalidomide, and is absolutely not on the market. It wasn't released and then permanently on the market because people liked it, that's not how drugs work.

The first small pox vaccination involved taking scabs from other people with small pox and rubbing it on people who do not have small pox. Rabies vaccinations were previously injecting people with the cerebral fluid of animals infected with rabies. Do you think we still use these methods because they work and we rely on them now? Sorry, but that's not really completely accurate information.

If drinking water and eating healthy solved my severe PMDD, I'm sure I wouldn't have that problem since I eat very healthy, exercise 4x a week, etc. It's not always that simple.

Again, not saying drugs don't have side effects, they all do.

Yeah sorry don't wanna derail the thread any further...

LittleOgre
December 23rd, 2018, 09:04 PM
What source are you using for this information? The medicine you're speaking of that caused deformities is thalidomide, and is absolutely not on the market. It wasn't released and then permanently on the market because people liked it, that's not how drugs work.

The first small pox vaccination involved taking scabs from other people with small pox and rubbing it on people who do not have small pox. Rabies vaccinations were previously injecting people with the cerebral fluid of animals infected with rabies. Do you think we still use these methods because they work and we rely on them now? Sorry, but that's not really completely accurate information.

If drinking water and eating healthy solved my severe PMDD, I'm sure I wouldn't have that problem since I eat very healthy, exercise 4x a week, etc. It's not always that simple.

Again, not saying drugs don't have side effects, they all do.

Yeah sorry don't wanna derail the thread any further...

I never said it was on the market. Just was giving an example of the lack of knowledge the public had. To which drugs such as Tylenol and birth control are easily attainable. While new drugs are much much harder to pass. And I was telling you what worked for me. I would get severe period symptoms if i don't eat healthy. I don't think birth control should be off the market of course but I don't really agree with taking it if it isn't necessary for my body personally. If we're speaking on the point birth control was made. We have many other options now. What I said was accurate. You just jumped to conclusions and connected dots I never connected. Its okay. You didn't do anything wrong.

LittleOgre
December 23rd, 2018, 09:07 PM
What source are you using for this information? The medicine you're speaking of that caused deformities is thalidomide, and is absolutely not on the market. It wasn't released and then permanently on the market because people liked it, that's not how drugs work.

The first small pox vaccination involved taking scabs from other people with small pox and rubbing it on people who do not have small pox. Rabies vaccinations were previously injecting people with the cerebral fluid of animals infected with rabies. Do you think we still use these methods because they work and we rely on them now? Sorry, but that's not really completely accurate information.

If drinking water and eating healthy solved my severe PMDD, I'm sure I wouldn't have that problem since I eat very healthy, exercise 4x a week, etc. It's not always that simple.

Again, not saying drugs don't have side effects, they all do.

Yeah sorry don't wanna derail the thread any further...

For example a male version of birth control was created but she regulations are more strict so it can't pass as easily as female birth control passed at the time. It has a lot of symptoms that just cross a specific barrier where it can not be given to the public. But if it were in the past. It most likely wouldn't be taken away... If the symptoms are bearable even if it might have effects that aren't well for humanity or society as a whole. Extreme drugs such as the ones you gave examples of course were taken off the market or not manufactured so hard.

illicitlizard
December 23rd, 2018, 09:40 PM
Hahahahah.

Soon there'll be threads popping up, "looking for someone to grow hair with"... :eyebrows:

Hahahaaaaaa!! I mean, if it works it works :P


In a way I agree with that. Women have been the "test pigs" of these hormonal alterations for decades now and it's pretty vulgar to be honest. All proper birth control is pretty safe these days, but of course not for everyone. I personally have one of those T things (I don't know what it's called in English!), a hormonal one at that rather than copper, and I think it's the most local option of all other than condoms and such. I like that it doesn't really alter how my body works. But this is becoming a bit off-topic now.

Hormonal IUD (intrauterine device) is what I think you're talking 'bout!
This has been a very interesting thread to lurk...

Gwyned
December 24th, 2018, 12:41 PM
Yeah sure. I suffer from the worst cramps possible, literally debilitating. I have to take the day off of work the first two days of my period if they fall on a work day, because I cannot get out of bed. The only alternative to this was percocet, which as you can guess was not helpful in making me a productive citizen.

Birth control regulates my periods so that I don't have to take sick leave every month, excessive amounts of motrin (upwards of 1600mg a day for three or four days), and did I mention mood swings that caused suicidal thoughts? The side effects for me are far better than that side effects I encountered on 3 years worth of SSRIs....

No, it's not for everyone, but I wouldn't convince anyone not to take something that they may need for one reason or another, whether it's a situation like mine or simply a contraceptive. There is not a single medicine on this planet that does not have a side effect, as that is the nature of any chemical compound, natural or not.

I felt that. This is so true. It's like. TBH everything has a side effect and many of the things we consume and are exposed to are problematic. I have a horrible period as well. Birth control hasn't been able to help so far but I'm not giving up. I want to try a mirena. When I first did the pill my hair began coming out in clumps.

blackgothicdoll
December 24th, 2018, 12:56 PM
I felt that. This is so true. It's like. TBH everything has a side effect and many of the things we consume and are exposed to are problematic. I have a horrible period as well. Birth control hasn't been able to help so far but I'm not giving up. I want to try a mirena. When I first did the pill my hair began coming out in clumps.

Yikes. Yeah you've got to listen to your body. I know how frustrating it is so hopefully you find something. I've been on maybe 8 different pills.... not fun trying to find that perfect fit.

akurah
December 25th, 2018, 03:13 AM
It's to late. If we were to take away birth control because of the current regulations rather than when it was passed which was in a time where there were very little regulations on drugs there would be a lot of outcries. All you have to do is do ur own research. Female birth control is unsafe but the time it was passed. There wasn't as much knowledge on how unsafe it was. Those were the times where they gave pregnant women drugs they didn't know that would cause deformities in their children!

Low dose hormonal birth control is the standard now, and is perfectly safe for the vast majority of people--if it was unsafe we'd see reports about a hell of a lot more deaths, injuries, or deformities, than what we have now, because, believe it or not, media covers that stuff. Yes, historically, it was highly dangerous--but that's not how it is now.
Other drugs in recent history have been pulled from the market (or given black box warnings) for being unsafe, and pharmaceutical companies have had their pants sued off a few times for that business. Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibutramine

When making outrageous claims, please give sources. They key word here is outrageous claims--you make claims that beggar belief.

LittleOgre
December 25th, 2018, 11:56 AM
Low dose hormonal birth control is the standard now, and is perfectly safe for the vast majority of people--if it was unsafe we'd see reports about a hell of a lot more deaths, injuries, or deformities, than what we have now, because, believe it or not, media covers that stuff. Yes, historically, it was highly dangerous--but that's not how it is now.
Other drugs in recent history have been pulled from the market (or given black box warnings) for being unsafe, and pharmaceutical companies have had their pants sued off a few times for that business. Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibutramine

When making outrageous claims, please give sources. They key word here is outrageous claims--you make claims that beggar belief.

I don't think you like me very much since you make many claims that you never really source yourself. But always like to speak on me. Guessing I am on your bad side? .-.
Anyways safe is a subjective term. I am speaking when it comes to safety the regulations that we're in the law books when it comes to drugs. That they via time periods are very different. Birth control of course doesn't cause deaths but it has a lot of side effects. Just because you don't die from it does not mean it is a SAFE drug. Tylenol is not a safe drug whatsoever. There are many many reports of bad symptoms coming from birth control... Even on this thread. My mom has had bad symptoms. It lowers the potential of your muscle mass making it harder to gain a better active body. It hurts you but not enough for it to be taken off the market. Insanely unsafe drugs that are almost a garauntee to hurt you kill you of course get pulled off the market and even become illegal. You don't have to believe me. I am just saying what I have researched.
I don't know how any of what I am saying is outrageous. Look at our country. The amount of people sucking drugs to relieve every little pain hurt. The amount of issues we have caused in people because of drugs. How is it so outrageous to say that birth control is not a safe drug and if you do not NEED to take it. Then maybe it's a better idea to find a safer alternative. People are so used to seeing people popping pills. They actually think we live in a world where every drug that the public that is allowed to consume is safe. We don't live in heaven... We live in a world where there is still greed, mistakes, selfishness, evil. We don't live in Lala land. We haven't perfected what we give to the public. Which is why you can't carelessly say drugs are safe like that. We can't carelessly say it doesn't affect our bodies in harmful ways.

LittleOgre
December 25th, 2018, 12:17 PM
Low dose hormonal birth control is the standard now, and is perfectly safe for the vast majority of people--if it was unsafe we'd see reports about a hell of a lot more deaths, injuries, or deformities, than what we have now, because, believe it or not, media covers that stuff. Yes, historically, it was highly dangerous--but that's not how it is now.
Other drugs in recent history have been pulled from the market (or given black box warnings) for being unsafe, and pharmaceutical companies have had their pants sued off a few times for that business. Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibutramine

When making outrageous claims, please give sources. They key word here is outrageous claims--you make claims that beggar belief.

https://www.montlick.com/montlick-blog/personal-injury/360-evidence-suggests-that-even-short-term-normal-doses-of-tylenol-can-cause-liver-damage

This link shows a drug call Tylenol... Easily taken by many people. Normal dose. Through study. they refer the name of the study. that even that can cause liver damage. C'mon. What is so outrageous for me to have lack of trust in the drugs that are offered today. I should trust them because of what? It's 2018? We live in the world of technology. No no no. How is it so outrageous to say. Hey. Birth control isn't a safe drug. It isn't! It's not food. Even taking a small amount has caused plenty of symptoms plenty of pain for many women. That's not safe. Just because you're not dying and losing a limb doesn't mean it's safe. I'll link you all the evidence I can gather to show you how unsafe. Druge can be including birth control. Since it's so hard for you to believe.

akurah
December 25th, 2018, 12:52 PM
I don't think you like me very much since you make many claims that you never really source yourself. But always like to speak on me. Guessing I am on your bad side? .-.
Anyways safe is a subjective term. I am speaking when it comes to safety the regulations that we're in the law books when it comes to drugs. That they via time periods are very different. Birth control of course doesn't cause deaths but it has a lot of side effects. Just because you don't die from it does not mean it is a SAFE drug. Tylenol is not a safe drug whatsoever. There are many many reports of bad symptoms coming from birth control... Even on this thread. My mom has had bad symptoms. It lowers the potential of your muscle mass making it harder to gain a better active body. It hurts you but not enough for it to be taken off the market. Insanely unsafe drugs that are almost a garauntee to hurt you kill you of course get pulled off the market and even become illegal. You don't have to believe me. I am just saying what I have researched.
I don't know how any of what I am saying is outrageous. Look at our country. The amount of people sucking drugs to relieve every little pain hurt. The amount of issues we have caused in people because of drugs. How is it so outrageous to say that birth control is not a safe drug and if you do not NEED to take it. Then maybe it's a better idea to find a safer alternative. People are so used to seeing people popping pills. They actually think we live in a world where every drug that the public that is allowed to consume is safe. We don't live in heaven... We live in a world where there is still greed, mistakes, selfishness, evil. We don't live in Lala land. We haven't perfected what we give to the public. Which is why you can't carelessly say drugs are safe like that. We can't carelessly say it doesn't affect our bodies in harmful ways.

I'm not a big fan of people who throw out the baby with the bathwater because they don't understand science.

I'm not a big fan of people giving dangerous advice (like use cayenne pepper on your skin/scalp) that can cause chemical burns. I'm also generally not inclined to produce sources for something that's obvious and well known (if you have ever worked with, cooked with, or eaten peppers at any point in your life, you would be aware of the chemical burn capacity of peppers, or if you read the news about the new hotness of ultra-spicy peppers, you would have learned about their active ingredient, capsaicin, which is the thing that would cause the chemical burns), so I don't generally include sources (just like someone who says to use sunscreen might not include a source on that it will prevent sunburn because this is generally accepted knowledge). I am not adverse to including sources, but I don't include them by default because my claims are neither outlandish nor difficult to find with google. And despite not including them by default, I sometimes include them anyway in some cases. Some of the things you've claimed, I can't find backing sources on google readily.

I'm also not a big fan of including sources for someone who, instead of thinking "Oh, this is something to be cautious about" is instead going on about "how everything is dangerous because it adversely affected a small amount of people" because they don't understand that's how science works.

For your tylenol example: I can't take ibuprofen. It makes me extremely sick from nausea. this is a common and known side effect of this drug. But I also know that this drug can be life-saving--for example, it can bring down fevers, and fever can kill you. Just because ibuprofen makes me sick as a dog does not mean I'm going to go to the forums about how evil and dangerous ibuprofen is and how nobody should take it. I would maybe warn people "oh hey this made me sick and that's a common side effect, so keep an eye out", but not "this drug is evil don't ever take it, it's poisonous".

As for the opioid crisis--that's a different argument, and just because the companies were behaving badly there does not invalidate the good that other meds have done for other people (this is an example of throwing out the baby with the bathwater in regards to science that I mentioned earlier)

LittleOgre
December 25th, 2018, 03:09 PM
I'm not a big fan of people who throw out the baby with the bathwater because they don't understand science.

I'm not a big fan of people giving dangerous advice (like use cayenne pepper on your skin/scalp) that can cause chemical burns. I'm also generally not inclined to produce sources for something that's obvious and well known (if you have ever worked with, cooked with, or eaten peppers at any point in your life, you would be aware of the chemical burn capacity of peppers, or if you read the news about the new hotness of ultra-spicy peppers, you would have learned about their active ingredient, capsaicin, which is the thing that would cause the chemical burns), so I don't generally include sources (just like someone who says to use sunscreen might not include a source on that it will prevent sunburn because this is generally accepted knowledge). I am not adverse to including sources, but I don't include them by default because my claims are neither outlandish nor difficult to find with google. And despite not including them by default, I sometimes include them anyway in some cases. Some of the things you've claimed, I can't find backing sources on google readily.

I'm also not a big fan of including sources for someone who, instead of thinking "Oh, this is something to be cautious about" is instead going on about "how everything is dangerous because it adversely affected a small amount of people" because they don't understand that's how science works.

For your tylenol example: I can't take ibuprofen. It makes me extremely sick from nausea. this is a common and known side effect of this drug. But I also know that this drug can be life-saving--for example, it can bring down fevers, and fever can kill you. Just because ibuprofen makes me sick as a dog does not mean I'm going to go to the forums about how evil and dangerous ibuprofen is and how nobody should take it. I would maybe warn people "oh hey this made me sick and that's a common side effect, so keep an eye out", but not "this drug is evil don't ever take it, it's poisonous".

As for the opioid crisis--that's a different argument, and just because the companies were behaving badly there does not invalidate the good that other meds have done for other people (this is an example of throwing out the baby with the bathwater in regards to science that I mentioned earlier)

Life saving or something that changes your life. Is very different from automatically going towards drugs rather than natural alternatives. Cayenne pepper can cause a chemical burn just like lemon can cause a chemical burn as well. It's all about doing either a patch test or knowing the amount that can work for you. Many people have used Cayenne people and they understood there body. Drugs that affect ur body are very different. You do not know what it is fully but you take it anyways. Cayenne pepper as long as you know what ur doing and doing it properly. You will be fine and not harmed! That is very different from allowing a drug into ur body that gives you affects anyways. Many drugs do not have adverse affects in small amounts of people but MILLIONS. In fact a lot of the affects are absolutely garunteed for many people. Tylenol can damagaes ur liver even if u take the reccomended amount. How is that small?? Using an appropriate amount of Cayenne pepper which I do use for cooking. Is very different from taking a drug that affect ur organs and ur body. It can cause a chemical burn if you have no clue what ur doing. same thing with applying lemon to the skin. Same thing with many natural products. Understand what your doing. Do a patch test. Know your body and skin. You know the world is in trouble when 1 in 5 women pop pills from all kinds of areas of use. To many people treat drugs like food. It can be used if necessary but most of the time. It is not necessary or worth it. We have a huge drug problem and I find it very astonishing on your attitude towards drugs. Which is probably why we have such a drug problem.

-Fern
December 25th, 2018, 04:23 PM
Part of the reason many users speak out against the use of things like cayenne pepper is that many of the people visiting this site aren't experienced and don't necessarily know to start slow and patch test, but they do especially hope for a magic bullet for faster hair growth. So they rush on in.

OP, you just recently posted a thread about your scalp burning after you used too much peppermint EO, so try to just keep in mind that everyone begins somewhere, and if people disagree with you here, their goal isn't to knock you down--their goal is to spare someone else from going through something similar to that.

There is no way to magically spur your hair growth, just a lot of little things that might make incremental differences. The best advice is just to nourish your body well and be patient.

Dark40
December 25th, 2018, 07:48 PM
I agree with, -Fern. You can do all of you can to nourish your body and take vitamin supplements to speed up your hair growth. That is the best advice.

Arciela
December 25th, 2018, 10:35 PM
Yeah sure. I suffer from the worst cramps possible, literally debilitating. I have to take the day off of work the first two days of my period if they fall on a work day, because I cannot get out of bed. The only alternative to this was percocet, which as you can guess was not helpful in making me a productive citizen.

Birth control regulates my periods so that I don't have to take sick leave every month, excessive amounts of motrin (upwards of 1600mg a day for three or four days), and did I mention mood swings that caused suicidal thoughts? The side effects for me are far better than that side effects I encountered on 3 years worth of SSRIs....

No, it's not for everyone, but I wouldn't convince anyone not to take something that they may need for one reason or another, whether it's a situation like mine or simply a contraceptive. There is not a single medicine on this planet that does not have a side effect, as that is the nature of any chemical compound, natural or not.

That sounds like what I went though..and I got diagnoised with endometriosis and fibromyalgia. I have to stay on continuous birth control (no period anymore thank god) until my lap. Weird thing is now my hair grows super fast.

LittleOgre
December 25th, 2018, 10:48 PM
Part of the reason many users speak out against the use of things like cayenne pepper is that many of the people visiting this site aren't experienced and don't necessarily know to start slow and patch test, but they do especially hope for a magic bullet for faster hair growth. So they rush on in.

OP, you just recently posted a thread about your scalp burning after you used too much peppermint EO, so try to just keep in mind that everyone begins somewhere, and if people disagree with you here, their goal isn't to knock you down--their goal is to spare someone else from going through something similar to that.

There is no way to magically spur your hair growth, just a lot of little things that might make incremental differences. The best advice is just to nourish your body well and be patient.

I don't have the sensation anymore. I used to much essential oil... I'm thinking about not using essential oil anymore and just sticking with something more... Organic that I can see and I think it's simply best to support people based on there journey of preference. Wanting to increase hair growth faster doesn't mean they're not enjoying their hair at the moment. Many people have used Cayenne pepper and were okay. It depends on how sensitive your skin is and how much you use and if ur allergic. Some people prefer to forget about their hair and simply allow it to grow at whatever it chooses to grow and others want to enjoy their hair and see faster growth. It's a personal prefereance. My hair is growing insanely fast. Id say 2-3 times faster than it normally grows and I'm happy with that and enjoy playing in my hair and seeing what else I can do. Cayenne pepper can cause chemical burns. Just as much as lemon. Doing it cautiously if you want to. It has worked for many people. If you make the oil. Dilute it first and work ur way up. It truly depends. But telling people who want to grow there hair faster and doing something that works for them to simply stop... And be patient as if they're not enjoying it to begin with... Is just rude to me personally. I actually enjoy doing my weekly mask and applying oil to my scalp and playing around with my shampoos. It's fun. It's enjoying and all in all it works so that's what pushes me to continue to do it. I'm trying to eat healthy as well but even if I didn't get growth. I'd still do it because the onion juice has made my hair darker thicker fuller and the oil keeps my roots strong. It's all what you enjoy and see as fun. If you just to prefer to do ur simple weekly thing and be 'patient'. It sounds more like impatience to me. The obsession with the word patience as if its hard to enjoy your journey.

It just feels like many aren't really sharing their own knowledge but rather opinion on how to view it all. So they say many way off base things to redirect individuals in another path. So it's hard to take any advice from many people on here due to the lack of credibility and mainly the same repeated notion of patience. Like nothing can make your hair grow faster etc. Things to discourage people even if they're false. No support just a very straight viewpoint from nowhere but a subjective philosophy on hair. Everyone has different views on hair enjoying it in different ways. It's a bit odd... The attitude but that's just me.

LittleOgre
December 25th, 2018, 11:28 PM
Part of the reason many users speak out against the use of things like cayenne pepper is that many of the people visiting this site aren't experienced and don't necessarily know to start slow and patch test, but they do especially hope for a magic bullet for faster hair growth. So they rush on in.

OP, you just recently posted a thread about your scalp burning after you used too much peppermint EO, so try to just keep in mind that everyone begins somewhere, and if people disagree with you here, their goal isn't to knock you down--their goal is to spare someone else from going through something similar to that.

There is no way to magically spur your hair growth, just a lot of little things that might make incremental differences. The best advice is just to nourish your body well and be patient.

http://www.cayennepepper.info/cayenne-heat-ointment.html

This article shows you that Cayenne pepper topical ointments as very beneficial and the amount of studies surrounding Cayenne pepper. Many people use it topically. There are many recipes. Studies and encouragement if you want healing and many benefits from it. It's not as dangerous as it seems. Just once again. Many people on this site... Are very closed off when it comes to trying new things. So it makes me very suspicious to what people say on here because they're more subjective philosophy rather than factual

Reyesuela
December 27th, 2018, 01:43 PM
DO NOT USE CAYENNE ON YOUR HAIR!!! It may actually cause hair loss. Stimulation of the heat receptor that cayenne activates is shown to cause hair to enter the telogen phase and then be shed. You PROBABLY won't leave it on long enough to cause this, but this is a terrible idea to stick on your head, and it's caused hair loss in mouse studies.

Everything else that you have listed might promote growth. However, it might promote a different kind of growth than you intend--it might push a greater percentage of your hair follicles into the anagen phase, hence promoting hair thickness. All of these things do have studies showing that they have the ability to do that either in mice or in people who are suffering from pattern balding.

What we DON'T have any studies showing is how much this can increase the thickness of people who don't have hair follicles that are essentially stunted. It probably will some. I do have to say that I started using treatments because I had pattern balding, and now I literally have twice as much hair by volume than I ever had before. This may be because my hair never reached anywhere close to its natural thickness because the same genetic factors that later caused obvious hair loss were stunting my hair my entire life.

More significantly, however, is that no one is measuring hair growth SPEED. Not one of these studies have covered growth speed, only thickness. There isn't any scientific evidence that any of these things will make hair grow faster. Some of them probably can, at least for some people. But we simply lack any evidence that they do.

Cate36
December 27th, 2018, 03:13 PM
DO NOT USE CAYENNE ON YOUR HAIR!!! It may actually cause hair loss. Stimulation of the heat receptor that cayenne activates is shown to cause hair to enter the telogen phase and then be shed. You PROBABLY won't leave it on long enough to cause this, but this is a terrible idea to stick on your head, and it's caused hair loss in mouse studies.

Everything else that you have listed might promote growth. However, it might promote a different kind of growth than you intend--it might push a greater percentage of your hair follicles into the anagen phase, hence promoting hair thickness. All of these things do have studies showing that they have the ability to do that either in mice or in people who are suffering from pattern balding.

What we DON'T have any studies showing is how much this can increase the thickness of people who don't have hair follicles that are essentially stunted. It probably will some. I do have to say that I started using treatments because I had pattern balding, and now I literally have twice as much hair by volume than I ever had before. This may be because my hair never reached anywhere close to its natural thickness because the same genetic factors that later caused obvious hair loss were stunting my hair my entire life.

More significantly, however, is that no one is measuring hair growth SPEED. Not one of these studies have covered growth speed, only thickness. There isn't any scientific evidence that any of these things will make hair grow faster. Some of them probably can, at least for some people. But we simply lack any evidence that they do.

That's really interesting Reyesuela, do you mind me asking what has worked for you? And how long it took to see visible results? x

-Fern
December 27th, 2018, 04:20 PM
http://www.cayennepepper.info/cayenne-heat-ointment.html

This article shows you that Cayenne pepper topical ointments as very beneficial and the amount of studies surrounding Cayenne pepper. Many people use it topically. There are many recipes. Studies and encouragement if you want healing and many benefits from it. It's not as dangerous as it seems. Just once again. Many people on this site... Are very closed off when it comes to trying new things. So it makes me very suspicious to what people say on here because they're more subjective philosophy rather than factual

Respectfully, the article was written by the same guy who makes and sells the ointment. It's not exactly scientifically backed. Oh, but he does close with, "On my honor, it's awesome. It works great."

sugar&nutmeg
December 27th, 2018, 04:39 PM
I've been trying to keep up with this thread, but it's...well, I sort of have to pace myself with it, IYKWIM.

I've read lots of ideas and opinions on whether hair growth can be enhanced, and if it can, how one might achieve that. Also, ways one should perhaps not try to do that. Etc.. But...I don't think I've seen much (if anything) about:

Why?

I'm 65, and just spent three years growing my hair from short-back-and-sides (and top) pixie to where it is now (avatar length plus, probably another sayyy...half-inch?). So, as an 'old lady', when I see 20-30-40-somethings focusing on faster I can't help thinking...please, try to take it easy, and enjoy the journey. You have so much time!

Yes, playing mad scientist with one's hair can be fun in itself, and hey, if it makes anyone happy, I'm all for it. But as often as not, over-focusing on growth-rate seems to cause additional stress and anxiety (one way or another). Who needs to go looking for more of that?

So...why faster? Not being critical, each of us can do as we wish with our own head of hair. I simply don't understand, and would be interested in reading the reasoning behind 'faster' as a hair-goal in itself. Hair grows. It will happen. What makes faster better?

Thanks!

lapushka
December 27th, 2018, 04:51 PM
I've been trying to keep up with this thread, but it's...well, I sort of have to pace myself with it, IYKWIM.

I've read lots of ideas and opinions on whether hair growth can be enhanced, and if it can, how one might achieve that. Also, ways one should perhaps not try to do that. Etc.. But...I don't think I've seen much (if anything) about:

Why?

I'm 65, and just spent three years growing my hair from short-back-and-sides (and top) pixie to where it is now (avatar length plus, probably another sayyy...half-inch?). So, as an 'old lady', when I see 20-30-40-somethings focusing on faster I can't help thinking...please, try to take it easy, and enjoy the journey. You have so much time!

Yes, playing mad scientist with one's hair can be fun in itself, and hey, if it makes anyone happy, I'm all for it. But as often as not, over-focusing on growth-rate seems to cause additional stress and anxiety (one way or another). Who needs to go looking for more of that?

So...why faster? Not being critical, each of us can do as we wish with our own head of hair. I simply don't understand, and would be interested in reading the reasoning behind 'faster' as a hair-goal in itself. Hair grows. It will happen. What makes faster better?

Thanks!

Wise words! :D

And I have no answer either. I love benign neglect and patience, myself. It will get to the length you want with time and if you don't trim as often (if you want to go "faster" that is the only thing that works).

I am very careful of "big claims" that people's hair grew 2/3 inches in a short time. Very.

Gwyned
December 28th, 2018, 12:36 PM
I've been trying to keep up with this thread, but it's...well, I sort of have to pace myself with it, IYKWIM.

I've read lots of ideas and opinions on whether hair growth can be enhanced, and if it can, how one might achieve that. Also, ways one should perhaps not try to do that. Etc.. But...I don't think I've seen much (if anything) about:

Why?

I'm 65, and just spent three years growing my hair from short-back-and-sides (and top) pixie to where it is now (avatar length plus, probably another sayyy...half-inch?). So, as an 'old lady', when I see 20-30-40-somethings focusing on faster I can't help thinking...please, try to take it easy, and enjoy the journey. You have so much time!

Yes, playing mad scientist with one's hair can be fun in itself, and hey, if it makes anyone happy, I'm all for it. But as often as not, over-focusing on growth-rate seems to cause additional stress and anxiety (one way or another). Who needs to go looking for more of that?

So...why faster? Not being critical, each of us can do as we wish with our own head of hair. I simply don't understand, and would be interested in reading the reasoning behind 'faster' as a hair-goal in itself. Hair grows. It will happen. What makes faster better?

Thanks!

To be honest, I think it's being impatient. Not to say anything bad about anyone who is impatient! Just saying that's probably why they want to grow their hair faster. I also think that some people are amazed by how much hair they actually retain when they implement healthy hair care practices. Not knowing that their new practices are allowing them to retain growth makes them feel as if there hair has magically began to grow faster when (while I'm not here to say that's not true) it may just be that their hair was breaking and whatnot before.

My hair grows an inch per month so I kind of don't have to wait very long for my hair to grow much at all. So I can't be certain. Just my thoughts. I think enjoying the process is important.

Cate36
December 28th, 2018, 12:42 PM
Wise words! :D

And I have no answer either. I love benign neglect and patience, myself. It will get to the length you want with time and if you don't trim as often (if you want to go "faster" that is the only thing that works).

I am very careful of "big claims" that people's hair grew 2/3 inches in a short time. Very.

Agree.. they are wise words.. but.. we're looking forward... not back.. when you look back, you see things so much clearer.. Impatience has always been my failing.. how many mistakes I have made just because I was like the child in the famous experiment where they can have one chocolate now, or wait a few hours and have a box..

I gobble the chocolate.. :)

I think this forum has helped me a lot. It's taught me how to care for my hair.. but also viewing the seasonal growth threads, and realising how quickly a year passes, has helped me develop a little patience and be inspired by other's journeys

SwanFeathers
December 28th, 2018, 01:54 PM
Agree.. they are wise words.. but.. we're looking forward... not back.. when you look back, you see things so much clearer.. Impatience has always been my failing.. how many mistakes I have made just because I was like the child in the famous experiment where they can have one chocolate now, or wait a few hours and have a box..

I gobble the chocolate.. :)

I think this forum has helped me a lot. It's taught me how to care for my hair.. but also viewing the seasonal growth threads, and realising how quickly a year passes, has helped me develop a little patience and be inspired by other's journeys

I believe it was actually marshmellows in that experiment, but chocolate would have been better :)

Cate36
December 28th, 2018, 01:56 PM
I believe it was actually marshmellows in that experiment, but chocolate would have been better :)

whatever it was.. I've already eaten them! :cool:

blackgothicdoll
December 28th, 2018, 02:01 PM
Instant gratification is a thing, especially in 2018. Want a pizza? Call and have on in 10 minutes. Want a book? Click on button and have somebody read it to you!

I won't get down the rabbit hole on all of that, but the overall 'availability' of all of things have trained us to expect things quicker. I find it's more likely to be prevalent in younger generations, but that doesn't mean those things are mutually exclusive as we all become accustomed to conveniences that technology affords us.

Those things can train our, or some of our minds into expecting things quicker, thus having a more difficult time waiting for things.

I like to watch hair journeys on YouTube. Most of them go over a span of 6 years. That helps remind me that I'm not going to get to my goal overnight. It definitely sucks, but you know you really want something if you'll wait 6 years for it!! :)

illicitlizard
December 28th, 2018, 04:05 PM
Instant gratification is a thing, especially in 2018. Want a pizza? Call and have on in 10 minutes. Want a book? Click on button and have somebody read it to you!

I won't get down the rabbit hole on all of that, but the overall 'availability' of all of things have trained us to expect things quicker. I find it's more likely to be prevalent in younger generations, but that doesn't mean those things are mutually exclusive as we all become accustomed to conveniences that technology affords us.

Those things can train our, or some of our minds into expecting things quicker, thus having a more difficult time waiting for things.

I like to watch hair journeys on YouTube. Most of them go over a span of 6 years. That helps remind me that I'm not going to get to my goal overnight. It definitely sucks, but you know you really want something if you'll wait 6 years for it!! :)

Absolutely agree, I went into this hair growth thing thinking that I'd have to commit to it for the better part of a decade. It's a long time, but some things take a long time. Not worth slapping goodness knows what on your head/into your body in the blind hope that it'll somehow make your hair grow faster. Waiting entirely sucks though so it makes so much sense that there's a lot of interest in increasing growth rates.

Dendra
December 28th, 2018, 05:01 PM
I've been trying to keep up with this thread, but it's...well, I sort of have to pace myself with it, IYKWIM.

I've read lots of ideas and opinions on whether hair growth can be enhanced, and if it can, how one might achieve that. Also, ways one should perhaps not try to do that. Etc.. But...I don't think I've seen much (if anything) about:

Why?

I'm 65, and just spent three years growing my hair from short-back-and-sides (and top) pixie to where it is now (avatar length plus, probably another sayyy...half-inch?). So, as an 'old lady', when I see 20-30-40-somethings focusing on faster I can't help thinking...please, try to take it easy, and enjoy the journey. You have so much time!

Yes, playing mad scientist with one's hair can be fun in itself, and hey, if it makes anyone happy, I'm all for it. But as often as not, over-focusing on growth-rate seems to cause additional stress and anxiety (one way or another). Who needs to go looking for more of that?

So...why faster? Not being critical, each of us can do as we wish with our own head of hair. I simply don't understand, and would be interested in reading the reasoning behind 'faster' as a hair-goal in itself. Hair grows. It will happen. What makes faster better?

Thanks!

Love this, it made me stop and question my own impatience. Thank you for posting, it's so valuable to add your perspective to mine! :)

Reyesuela
December 30th, 2018, 02:10 PM
That's really interesting Reyesuela, do you mind me asking what has worked for you? And how long it took to see visible results? x

The thread in my footer has my hair pics and other info. I always stick with Nizoral and minoxidil--with the understanding that minoxidil isn't something that you want to go on if you don't have pattern baldness, because now I have to wax my lip. :/ lol Nizoral I recommend for anyone. I also sometimes use various other concoctions based on what studies have shown. I believe that some of these do affect growth rate. Nizoral and minoxidil don't seem to affect it nearly so much.

Something a bit odd: My NAILS definitely grow thicker and faster than they used to. I've had paper-thin nails my whole life. Now they're a little more normal and definitely much faster. Who would have thought it???? But my hair growth has definitely not sped up much compared to the nail growth!!!!

Cate36
December 30th, 2018, 02:16 PM
The thread in my footer has my hair pics and other info. I always stick with Nizoral and minoxidil--with the understanding that minoxidil isn't something that you want to go on if you don't have pattern baldness, because now I have to wax my lip. :/ lol Nizoral I recommend for anyone. I also sometimes use various other concoctions based on what studies have shown. I believe that some of these do affect growth rate. Nizoral and minoxidil don't seem to affect it nearly so much.

Something a bit odd: My NAILS definitely grow thicker and faster than they used to. I've had paper-thin nails my whole life. Now they're a little more normal and definitely much faster. Who would have thought it???? But my hair growth has definitely not sped up much compared to the nail growth!!!!

The same.. ! Actually I have always had strong nails, but since changing my diet and taking a heap of hair supplements, my nails are like iron.. so strong, massively long.. It gives me some reassurance because I figure it must be affecting my hair too!

lapushka
December 30th, 2018, 02:42 PM
The same.. ! Actually I have always had strong nails, but since changing my diet and taking a heap of hair supplements, my nails are like iron.. so strong, massively long.. It gives me some reassurance because I figure it must be affecting my hair too!

That's a good sign, Cate! :thumbsup: