What I'm doing to grow my hair fast. .. tips on any tricks I'm not trying?

[Cate36]

I'm measuring growth from my fringe.. it's slow.. OK I measure each day.. so it's slow :) It is growing.. that's the good news.. :)

Here is what I have been doing daily.. any more tips?

1) I hang upside down from my bed every day to get the blood to my scalp.. for quite a while.. I do business phone calls this way (work from home).. to keep me occupied..
2) I have a few growth sprays for my scalp.. Intensive growth spray from Bondi Boost, and Terre a Mer invigorating tonic (two aussie products)
3) A Laser cap.. in a panic over thoughts of hair loss, I went to see a specialist hair loss place (well, specialist in selling hair loss products I guess...) anyway, I purchased a laser cap and was given some *tonic* top put on my scalp.. a mixture of plants and I also think Minoxidil is in there... I have been using it.. and I think the laser is good.. but only two and a bit weeks in..

Any advice on other things I can try? I am now wearing a shower cap over night and I have heard that helps growth? The GHE method? And then fishing around on this forum, I read about some fungal cream used for vagina yeast infections that helps growth? Really?

Thank you always everyone..so grateful you are all here for support X

[akurah]

Nothing makes hair grow faster unless you have a condition slowing the growth, and even then, treating that condition doesn't make the hair grow faster than normal, it just brings hair growth back to normal speed. If you are still within the return window for that laser hat, you should take it back. That's a waste of money.

I would also stop putting crap on your scalp. If they came from dubious sources, they could hurt you. Also don't get any bright ideas about using a product like rogaine on your hair. Rogaine and similar are the kind of products that if you ever stop using them, hair falls out.

Leave your scalp alone with this stuff. It won't end well

[Ju]

Don't measure your hair every day, that will achieve nothing. just put it up and out of your face and forget about it. Check in with it in a few months and you'll see some advancement. If anything, perhaps you might be interested in benign neglect?
Obsessing over your hair growth on the day to day seriously seves only to just stress you out. Growth doesn't happen over night, it happens over months and years. You're better off living your life and then checking in now and then. Best thing is to find a hair routine that works for you where you give it a good conditioning and washing and any moisturising/protein/other things when it asks for it, and then let it be.
There's no magic potion, only patience.

[Cate36]

OK that's really really worrying.. I've only used it for 3 weeks.. so I'll stop right now... will that cause issues? 3 weeks of use?

[akurah]

Short term use probably wouldn't ruin your hair permanently but it might cause some short term peculiarities. Your hair isn't ruined, but long term use of that stuff could have ended badly.

[Cate36]

Short term use probably wouldn't ruin your hair permanently but it might cause some short term peculiarities. Your hair isn't ruined, but long term use of that stuff could have ended badly.

OK stopping now :( I wish I had known.. I tend to trust way too easily.. but after you mentioned it, I googled the medication and there are so many men out there that lost all their growth after stopping.. just awful..

[Cate36]

Don't measure your hair every day, that will achieve nothing. just put it up and out of your face and forget about it. Check in with it in a few months and you'll see some advancement. If anything, perhaps you might be interested in benign neglect?
Obsessing over your hair growth on the day to day seriously seves only to just stress you out. Growth doesn't happen over night, it happens over months and years. You're better off living your life and then checking in now and then. Best thing is to find a hair routine that works for you where you give it a good conditioning and washing and any moisturising/protein/other things when it asks for it, and then let it be.
There's no magic potion, only patience.

I know this is the best advice.. I think it's harder because i just weep that at the beginning of the yea I was there with my hair goals.. and now I', back by at least 12 months..

[Corvana]

I know this is the best advice.. I think it's harder because i just weep that at the beginning of the yea I was there with my hair goals.. and now I', back by at least 12 months..

Reframe this! "I'm only back by about 12 months." It doesn't sound so bad that way, does it? A year really isn't very long. It's already almost 2019, and it feels like it's been maybe four months since Christmas 2018!

You'll be back where you were before you know it!

[Arciela]

Sadly I don't think there is anything we can do to speed up growth yet. :( I guess taking care of our hair makes it retain length better. Besides no heat, dye/bleach, gentle handling, etc.

I know there is these two things, I have no idea if it works..just stuff I found over the years while looking for ways to increase growth.

Peppermint oil is said to help: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289931/

and this extract from apples? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11841365

As for me I am content with benign neglect and patience. My hair grows pretty fast (1" a month) so I don't really do anything or pay it much mind.

[MusicalSpoons]

... (well, specialist in selling hair loss products I guess...) ...

Yup, that's probably the best way of putting it :wink: They're usually experts at trading on fear and desperation! In line with what akurah said, for anyone with legitimate hair loss caused by an actual correctible issue, great, there will be specific products to help them, but none of them fall under the 'magically makes hair sprout faster than nature!' umbrella.



Any advice on other things I can try? I am now wearing a shower cap over night and I have heard that helps growth? The GHE method? And then fishing around on this forum, I read about some fungal cream used for vagina yeast infections that helps growth? Really?


Um, why a shower cap?
The vaginal cream for yeast infections is, as far as I understand, something that only works if yeast is slowing your hair down. That does not seem likely in your case, to be perfectly honest.

By the way, putting several different products on your scalp is unlikely to help, most likely ineffective, and possibly counterproductive. I think the best (and most benign) thing you're doing is inverting to help blood flow to the scalp. It's usually paired with a scalp massage (you don't need anything for that, just your fingers, but a scalp massage is not mandatory!), and good circulation to the follicles is beneficial. Little and often is good. Prolonged periods of time, however, less so. https://www.healthline.com/health/hanging-upside-down

There are some herbs and essential oils that are traditionally thought to help maximise hair growth potential, pretty much by promoting good circulation and in some cases antibacterial/antifungal just in case - probably some of these are in the mixture of plants in the tonic you're using - but I'm going to take the liberty of referring back to your previous thread and say The Most Important Thing you are doing is sorting out nutrition. You seem to have no scalp complaints (yeast overgrowth, skin conditions, etc) which is great, and honestly there is nothing else you need to do :) :blossom: Just ... let it grow :shrug:

[Cate36]

Reframe this! "I'm only back by about 12 months." It doesn't sound so bad that way, does it? A year really isn't very long. It's already almost 2019, and it feels like it's been maybe four months since Christmas 2018!

You'll be back where you were before you know it!

That is SO true! This year went SOOOO fast... my Bday is in April.. and it's almost here again! Weep! Another year over.,.

[Cate36]

Yup, that's probably the best way of putting it :wink: They're usually experts at trading on fear and desperation! In line with what akurah said, for anyone with legitimate hair loss caused by an actual correctible issue, great, there will be specific products to help them, but none of them fall under the 'magically makes hair sprout faster than nature!' umbrella.




Um, why a shower cap?

Ummmmmmm.. well I thought it was something to do with the GHE.. keeping warmth on your head.. a moist environment.. to encourage "growth" ...

I feel silly now..especially if this is not so....

But in truth..I am wearing it now (whilst working at home..not an office thankfully!) to keep my hair out the way of me fiddling with it and looking at it...)

[lapushka]

Cate, girl, honestly, how many times have I mentioned nice TLC and conditioning treatments (for moisture). And then to leave your hair alone. It's like you are piling up one damaging thing after another. I would just... just... stop. Regular patience and TLC is what is going to get you the farthest. Trust us all on this. We don't just have long healthy hair for no reason. And I have BTDT. :flower:

[Cate36]

Cate, girl, honestly, how many times have I mentioned nice TLC and conditioning treatments (for moisture). And then to leave your hair alone. It's like you are piling up one damaging thing after another. I would just... just... stop. Regular patience and TLC is what is going to get you the farthest. Trust us all on this. We don't just have long healthy hair for no reason. And I have BTDT. :flower:

:-( . I'm trying :(... I just.. well.. :-(... I think I feel better if I am *doing* something.. but I know you're right.. My diet is super now for hair.. so that's a good thing! :)

[GrowlingCupcake]

Firstly, patience. Your hair will grow again, but it will take time. Put it up, leave it alone as much as possible, and you'll get there faster than you expected.

Secondly, there is at least one extract that can help hair growth:
There's a protein called fibroblast growth factor 5 (FGF5) that regulates the hair cycle. Basically, it tells the hair when to move from the growth phase (anagen) to the transitional/resting phrase (catagen). Once hair has been the the catagen phase for awhile, it moves into the shedding phase (telogen). It FGF5 is blocked (due to a gene mutation or using an inhibitor of FGF5), you can experience a longer anagen phase. This results in a longer terminal period, less hair shedding, and more hair growth.

There is one definite source for an inhibitor: sanguisorba officinalis or the great burnet. As far as I know, the only product using the inhbitor derived from sanguisorba officinalis is évolis Australia.

Note: I do not know if their products work, I do not know if their products use an optimal level of the extract, I do not know if they use the correct part of the plant for the extract, I do not know if their products provide the best method of using the extract. I haven't even seen their studies on their product. The only thing I do know about them is that they have products that list the extract as an ingredient, and that the extract has been shown (by multiple studies) to inhibit FGF5.

I suspect that their products will require constant topical use. If you stop, you will likely find that your hair growth will slow, your hair will likely shed more, and any hair that went past its natural anagen phase (past natural terminal length) will probably stop growing, and be shed over the next couple of months.

But, it might help to grow the shorter strands more quickly.

If you decide to use their products, keep me posted. I'm curious about whether or not they work; I've been wanting to grow, and extract my own ihibitor from sanguisorba officinalis, but I'm lazy xD

Also, there are other FGF5 inhibitors but I do not think they are in any currently available hair care product.

[Jo Ann]

Cate, one thing to remember when checking out hair growth/loss "remedies":

If it sounds too good to be true, it IS. Put another way, run like Hell away BEFORE you spend your hard-earned $$$ on something that is touted to work "miracles." [insert Spongebob Rainbow Image (https://memegenerator.net/img/images/4637859/spongebob-rainbow.jpg) here]

[*Wednesday*]

As with all the other girls. Also, length retention is key. That is where length counts. Keep the ends in good shape. Put it up and forget about it.

[Ylva]

Keep up with the scalp massages (once a day for a few mins is enough), they're relaxing and help with circulation. Other than that, RELAX, CALM DOWN and just generally take good care of your hair. You don't need to try something new all the time. All it takes is time and patience.

[Ophidian]

My hair grows the fastest when I’m too busy hoarding hairtoys to care what’s its busy doing... I put it up in the morning and tuck it into its silk wrap at night and it entertains itself by growing while it waits for me to buy it things. It’s so spoiled. :p

Before I had enough hair to bun I kept busy researching hair care. Not doing all the things, just learning about them. And blogging about my routine. And making growth spreadsheets (that I never use, but they were fun to do). In other words, I found ways to let all that mental energy spin itself out on hair nerd stuff, without actually doingthat much to my hair. I literally had to think about it like a rare little plant that I had to take care of mostly by keeping it protected, misting it occasionally, and not startling it with loud noises (or mysterious growth treatments :D.

This is just how my brain works, obviously people are motivated by different things. But I would encourage you to explore ways to indulge your enthusiasm in ways that are hair related but don’t have an immediate and irreversible impact.

[victorian girl]

If you continue to be so obsessed, you will get very stressed and frustrated and you'll either lose patience and cut your hair off, or it will just fall out because of all the stress. It sounds like you've got no idea what's in all the products you put on your head (each day?!) and just buy and try everything that claims hair growth, without even questioning if those claims can be true. So, I really want you to know that:
1) No product and no technique can make your hair grow faster/thicker than it's possible for a human being and for you specifically. You can't grow your hair an inch a day no matter what stuff you put into it, and you can't have an arm-thick braid if your hair has always been fine and thin. Hair usually grows at around 0.5 - 1 inches a month, so what on earth are you expecting to see measuring every single day?
2) The only thing you can do is to make sure you're not sabotaging your individual genetic potential - that there's nothing that makes your hair grow slower / thinner / weaker than it actually can. And It usually involves eliminating products and techniques (like heat / dye), not adding them!
3) Supplements and anti-fungal products can help, but only if you have the problem in the first place. And more expensive doesn't equal better!
4) Please, learn how to read the ingredients lists! Piling products on top of each other having no idea what's in them is an awful idea. Also, you'll probably want to figure out what suits your (!) hair most in terms of shampoo and conditioner ingredients.
5) The best thing you can do to your hair is to manipulate it as little as possible. Manipulation = mechanical damage. Just put your hair up in the morning and forget that you have any!

Tips, tricks and lifehacks are popular on the Internet, but it doesn't mean that all of them are equally helpful. Don't try things before you understand how exactly they work (if they do work at all)! A bit of critical thinking goes a long way.

[victorian girl]

Double post :)

[Stray_mind]

I guess you need some patience. Stop putting damaging things on your scalp, like others said. Avoid stress (obsessing over length is also stressful), eat healthy and keep your hair moisturised, if it needs it.. Learn about protective styles. Put your hair up and leave it be for a few months. I promise you, your hair will be visibly longer by then. :flower:

The best hair care routine for me is just benign neglect. I started not even having chin length hair and now, after a year and 4 months i am only a few inches from APL.

[Sarahlabyrinth]

You can do something today that will help your hair grow. Get busy doing something non hair related. Do this every day, and your hair will grow, and it will also take your mind off it.

[lapushka]

:-( . I'm trying :(... I just.. well.. :-(... I think I feel better if I am *doing* something.. but I know you're right.. My diet is super now for hair.. so that's a good thing! :)

Next time let us know *before* you are about to "undertake" another thing, so we can have input and steer you in the right direction!

[AmaryllisRed]

My hair grows the fastest when I’m too busy hoarding hairtoys to care what’s its busy doing... I put it up in the morning and tuck it into its silk wrap at night and it entertains itself by growing while it waits for me to buy it things. It’s so spoiled. :p

Before I had enough hair to bun I kept busy researching hair care. Not doing all the things, just learning about them. And blogging about my routine. And making growth spreadsheets (that I never use, but they were fun to do). In other words, I found ways to let all that mental energy spin itself out on hair nerd stuff, without actually doingthat much to my hair. I literally had to think about it like a rare little plant that I had to take care of mostly by keeping it protected, misting it occasionally, and not startling it with loud noises (or mysterious growth treatments :D.

This is just how my brain works, obviously people are motivated by different things. But I would encourage you to explore ways to indulge your enthusiasm in ways that are hair related but don’t have an immediate and irreversible impact.

So much this.


You can do something today that will help your hair grow. Get busy doing something non hair related. Do this every day, and your hair will grow, and it will also take your mind off it.

And this.
Hang in there. :)

[MusicalSpoons]

Ummmmmmm.. well I thought it was something to do with the GHE.. keeping warmth on your head.. a moist environment.. to encourage "growth" ...

I feel silly now..especially if this is not so....

But in truth..I am wearing it now (whilst working at home..not an office thankfully!) to keep my hair out the way of me fiddling with it and looking at it...)

Never heard of a moist environment encouraging hair growth ... growth of other stuff, perhaps :confused: or of a shower cap creating a moist environment, except if your hair is still wet? I guess if it makes you sweat? :shrug: However! If it is helping you keep your hair out of the way, go for it! :D


As with all the other girls. Also, length retention is key. That is where length counts. Keep the ends in good shape. Put it up and forget about it.

Oh yes, length retention is definitely what counts most when there are no problems with scalp or growth :)


Next time let us know *before* you are about to "undertake" another thing, so we can have input and steer you in the right direction!

Cate if I remember correctly, you have already asked about one thing, the dodgy ad for a keratin conditioner - you'll probably find with most 'miracle' products or treatments we will likely shoot it down (for you - in other cases where there is a possibility of a particular thing benefiting someone we will say so!) but please do keep asking here. This way you will be better equipped to make informed decisions, which is pretty much the key to good haircare :)

[spidermom]

I think that keeping a shower cap on your head is more likely to cause fungus growth than hair growth.

I think the best thing you can do for length is protect the ends so you don't lose length to hairs breaking off or needing to be trimmed. Give them a little oil and/or leave-in conditioning and wear them up to prevent them rubbing on clothing, catching on purse straps or seat belts, etc.

[blackgothicdoll]

Cate, GHE is to keep HAIR moisturized, not the scalp. A lot of people with my hair type use this.

You don't want to do inversions every day - 7 days at a time, once a month for 5 minutes or less.

I think putting your hair away is the best thing you can do. Either put it in a bun, or use your shower cap, or even a satin-lined cap/beanie first thing in the morning. Take it off at night and sleep with a braid or with a satin bonnet, if you're a bonnet person.... basically just put it away. Don't look at it.

I had the same problem with obsessing. I think it's really hard to redirect the mind, but it's easier to make it more productive. That being said, if you're really into growing out your hair, leave it alone and research the science of hair. Like someone else in this thread said, make it a productive obsession instead of a harmful one. :)

[Dark40]

Sadly I don't think there is anything we can do to speed up growth yet. :( I guess taking care of our hair makes it retain length better. Besides no heat, dye/bleach, gentle handling, etc.

I know there is these two things, I have no idea if it works..just stuff I found over the years while looking for ways to increase growth.

Peppermint oil is said to help: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289931/

and this extract from apples? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11841365

As for me I am content with benign neglect and patience. My hair grows pretty fast (1" a month) so I don't really do anything or pay it much mind.

I've also heard that castor oil is good for speeding up hair growth too. I don't measure mine of pay any attention to the length either these days. Because, I know that it's growing. My hair grows pretty fast too also (1" a month).

[akurah]

I've also heard that castor oil is good for speeding up hair growth too. I don't measure mine of pay any attention to the length either these days. Because, I know that it's growing. My hair grows pretty fast too also (1" a month).

Castor oil can darken hair. If your hair is already dark it won't matter, but use with caution on light hair

[Sparkles122]

Castor oil can darken hair. If your hair is already dark it won't matter, but use with caution on light hair

My hair is dark and I wouldnt mind it darker. How do I do the castor oil?

[Cate36]

The shower cap idea came from this website (and others).... https://www.yours.co.uk/lifestyle/beauty/articles/how-to-make-your-hair-grow-faster .. yes.. I have watched every youTube video and read every hair blog that's in English on hair growth.. and a few in foreign languages.. with a lot of guess work...

[lapushka]

The shower cap idea came from this website (and others).... https://www.yours.co.uk/lifestyle/beauty/articles/how-to-make-your-hair-grow-faster .. yes.. I have watched every youTube video and read every hair blog that's in English on hair growth.. and a few in foreign languages.. with a lot of guess work...

Please don't head that direction... Just listen to us and be patient. And that shower cap idea? Is it about keeping hair permanently damp/wet under a shower cap? For sure not! If so, baaad idea!

[MusicalSpoons]

The shower cap idea came from this website (and others).... https://www.yours.co.uk/lifestyle/beauty/articles/how-to-make-your-hair-grow-faster .. yes.. I have watched every youTube video and read every hair blog that's in English on hair growth.. and a few in foreign languages.. with a lot of guess work...

In that case, you've probably read or heard every urban myth under the sun ;) A little bit of critical thinking really does go a long way!


2. Wearing a shower cap
This simply involves wrapping your head in cling film or wearing a shower cap and leaving it on as long as possible, preferably overnight. The idea is that the build-up of heat will increase your scalp’s sebum production and encourage hair growth.

Oh ... wow. :confused: I'd normally try to work out the reasoning behind advice like this, to work out and explain where they went wrong and why it won't work, but this? I got nuthin', as they say :shake: just ... no.

(Oiling your hair, on the other hand, is decent advice - it won't help growth, but the existing hair will probably like it.)

[lapushka]

In that case, you've probably read or heard every urban myth under the sun ;) A little bit of critical thinking really does go a long way!

Truer words were never spoken. It's true. Amidst all of this, you have to stay calm, collected and *think* about why this or that would be a bad idea.

If it touts to be a miracle, or is going to do the "impossible", you can bet your booty, it's a load of BS. :bs:

[blackgothicdoll]

^^ In the case, why not just exercise? Builds up heat in the scalp and increases sebum production when you sweat.

[Cate36]

Well there are a fair few studies out there that advocate a scalp massage for growth, and quite a few people that have had success with the inversion technique.. which all work on the concept of increasing blood flow to an area, increases the flow of nutrients, and therefore stimulates growth... The shower cap concept makes sense if you look at it like that... ?

[Cate36]

For example... https://www.vichy.sg/V-Mag/Hair-myth-Can-a-scalp-massage-help-boost-hair-growth/vmag70349.aspx

"How do scalp massages and hair growth relate?

The reason that scientists believe a scalp massage can improve hair growth is twofold. “The most important factor is the stimulation of the blood vessels when massaged”, says dermatologist Dr. Nina Roos. She explains that with more blood flowing through the scalp, the follicles receive more nutrients and oxygen, which promotes the (faster) growth of (healthy) hair. In fact, studies(2) have shown that after only 4 minutes of scalp massage per day for several weeks, there was a significant increase in the progression of the hair cycle. In addition, the scalp massage technique also results in increased hair thickness 24 weeks after initiation of massage(2)."

[Ylva]

You don't want to do inversions every day - 7 days at a time, once a month for 5 minutes or less.

I've heard of many people doing it daily, I don't think there's much harm in it, especially not what people say about "your body getting used to it". I do it pretty much daily. It's fine, as long as you don't start to feel dizzy or anything. Doing it only once a month one might notice a "burst" in hair growth, but for me, doing it daily gives me a more stable boost.

[Cate36]

I've heard of many people doing it daily, I don't think there's much harm in it, especially not what people say about "your body getting used to it". I do it pretty much daily. It's fine, as long as you don't start to feel dizzy or anything. Doing it only once a month one might notice a "burst" in hair growth, but for me, doing it daily gives me a more stable boost.

That's where I am with it too! I think it helps hair and skin on your face.. as I've noticed a difference in my complexion as well...

[*Wednesday*]

Nothing makes hair grow faster....

OP. I'm sending you back to the opening answer to your post.

Whatever anecdotal stories you hear, people claiming their hair grows 1" or 2" every month putting castor oil, butt creams, swinging upside down from chandaliers and whatever nonsense is poppycock.
People with the longest hair on LHC have been growing their hair for years. And I don't mean to 2 or 3 years I mean 6 to 7 years of beautiful long hair goals. You better learn to exercise patience or you're going to find yourself running out of steam really really quickly.

[Cate36]

OP. I'm sending you back to the opening answer to your post.

Whatever anecdotal stories you hear, people claiming their hair grows 1" or 2" every month putting castor oil, butt creams, swinging upside down from chandaliers and whatever nonsense is poppycock.
People with the longest hair on LHC have been growing their hair for years. And I don't mean to 2 or 3 years I mean 6 to 7 years of beautiful long hair goals. You better learn to exercise patience or you're going to find yourself running out of steam really really quickly.

I'm with you.. I've always had long long hair.. past my butt at one stage until I cut it to my waste so I could wear it down.. I've never had short hair since childhood.. so I know the journey is a marathon and not a race..,but I still believe there are ways to maximise growth... to increase the speed with diet, exercise, massages... same with nails.. and with healing.. we know for example that honey, mood, positive thinking all enhances healing.. so that's all this thread is about really.. what can we do to enhance/create the best atmosphere for growth... still a marathon I know..

[Riot Crrl]

If you make many changes to your routine in a short period of time, eventually some change will produce an unintended result, and then you won't have any way of knowing which thing it was.

[Cate36]

If you make many changes to your routine in a short period of time, eventually some change will produce an unintended result, and then you won't have any way of knowing which thing it was.

Yeah.. true.. at this stage I'm not too worried about that.. I just want to grow out the worst of the breakage as soon as possible.. and I have a marathon ahead with that as some is high up :-(

[lapushka]

Yeah.. true.. at this stage I'm not too worried about that.. I just want to grow out the worst of the breakage as soon as possible.. and I have a marathon ahead with that as some is high up :-(

But in the mean time you still have long hair, which is in good condition as far as we can judge (I've seen pictures). There are people on here who have to grow out from a shaved head. So all you need to do is baby it, maybe microtrim and it's *fine*. No need to go crazy with all sorts of crazy ideas. To me they're crazy, at least. I am a big believer in patience and nothing more.

I would not experiment with things too much at a time, indeed something might give you a random, fluke, result, and then you won't know what did it, so do something different (if you must) every 2 weeks and give whatever it is you're doing new time to adjust.

[Cate36]

But in the mean time you still have long hair, which is in good condition as far as we can judge (I've seen pictures). There are people on here who have to grow out from a shaved head. So all you need to do is baby it, maybe microtrim and it's *fine*. No need to go crazy with all sorts of crazy ideas. To me they're crazy, at least. I am a big believer in patience and nothing more.

I would not experiment with things too much at a time, indeed something might give you a random, fluke, result, and then you won't know what did it, so do something different (if you must) every 2 weeks and give whatever it is you're doing new time to adjust.

Yeah I agree with you totally (wise woman you are!).. the worry is that I have a lot of long bits that stop half way down the length.. I worry about that.. the biggest risk at the moment is overdose on Olaplex.. which I figure is pretty safe as it can only help on each application..... as it's the only thing that is really working on the condition. I used number 2 last wash, and it was amazing.. better than 3.. .. but I so agree with you.. the more I can leave it alone, the better... and the more I can distract myself from any craziness .. the better... not sure when I'll get to that point.. but I look forward to it! :) XX

[Ylva]

Even though nothing indeed does make hair grow faster, I think stuff like scalp massages can be a part of optimizing one's potential. I personally do see a growth increase from doing that. In addition, it's relaxing, which is also helpful to reduce stress and anxiety (which I have in abundance).

[Cate36]

Even though nothing indeed does make hair grow faster, I think stuff like scalp massages can be a part of optimizing one's potential. I personally do see a growth increase from doing that. In addition, it's relaxing, which is also helpful to reduce stress and anxiety (which I have in abundance).

I'm with you... I don't think it is so much a case of making hair grow faster.. it's stopping it growing slower.. due to life style.. lack of nutrition, or good circulation, or warmth.. or whatever is needed.. like a plant that is in the right atmosphere to flourish, compered to those that are compromised..

[lapushka]

I'm with you... I don't think it is so much a case of making hair grow faster.. it's stopping it growing slower.. due to life style.. lack of nutrition, or good circulation, or warmth.. or whatever is needed.. like a plant that is in the right atmosphere to flourish, compered to those that are compromised..

Be wary though of oils on your scalp. Some people get more shedding due to oil application on the scalp, so if that occurs, stop using oils on the scalp. I'm just telling you now, because it's a "thing". Some people get this with oil or conditioner on the scalp. Mysterious thing, but it exists nonetheless.

[Cate36]

Be wary though of oils on your scalp. Some people get more shedding due to oil application on the scalp, so if that occurs, stop using oils on the scalp. I'm just telling you now, because it's a "thing". Some people get this with oil or conditioner on the scalp. Mysterious thing, but it exists nonetheless.

OK that's really good to know! Thankfully I'm not using any at the moment.. Just the sprays I have which are mostly essential oils and ginsing/caffeine.. I use a little oil in my hair..but as little as possible otherwise my hair starts to look greasy...

[lapushka]

OK that's really good to know! Thankfully I'm not using any at the moment.. Just the sprays I have which are mostly essential oils and ginsing/caffeine.. I use a little oil in my hair..but as little as possible otherwise my hair starts to look greasy...

Just wanted to mention it, in case no one had so far. We've had a few people on LHC lose a big part of their thickness with CO-washing (conditioner only washing). And some notice more shedding with oil application to the scalp. Don't ask me who those people are that lost a part of their hair due to CO-washing, because I don't think they've been on for a while.

Anyway, now you know. :) Hope it is not a problem for you.

It is for me. I can't do conditioner or oils on the scalp anyway due to my SD, seborrheic dermatitis, but I shed like a beast anyway. LOL!

[Cate36]

Just wanted to mention it, in case no one had so far. We've had a few people on LHC lose a big part of their thickness with CO-washing (conditioner only washing). And some notice more shedding with oil application to the scalp. Don't ask me who those people are that lost a part of their hair due to CO-washing, because I don't think they've been on for a while.

Anyway, now you know. :) Hope it is not a problem for you.

It is for me. I can't do conditioner or oils on the scalp anyway due to my SD, seborrheic dermatitis, but I shed like a beast anyway. LOL!

Hmm.. the only thing that touches my scalp at the moment is olaplex (including their shampoo) have there been any negative side effects from these that you know of?

[ArabellaRose]

I'm one who experienced massive shedding due to applying oils to the scalp, it was instantaneous for me but it took me 3 applications to fully realise.

It would be fine if it weren't just before my annual winter shed so I'm definitely one who lost volume, I've even noticed it impact on my right more than left :(

[Cate36]

I'm one who experienced massive shedding due to applying oils to the scalp, it was instantaneous for me but it took me 3 applications to fully realise.

It would be fine if it weren't just before my annual winter shed so I'm definitely one who lost volume, I've even noticed it impact on my right more than left :(

So sorry to hear that..:blossom: I'm def going to steer clear then.. :( I have had so much breakage.. that's the real cause of the thinness for me at the moment.. I have lost significant thickness from around my collar bone downwards...

[Ylva]

So sorry to hear that..:blossom: I'm def going to steer clear then.. :( I have had so much breakage.. that's the real cause of the thinness for me at the moment.. I have lost significant thickness from around my collar bone downwards...

You don't necessarily have to avoid oils on your scalp if you don't notice anything negative from using them there. We are all different. I am one who doesn't shed from applying oils on my scalp, and I definitely find them very helpful in terms of scalp health and massages.

[LittleOgre]

We all genetically have a maximum growth rate potential. So for all I know this might not work for you but most people don't eat the healthiest, don't have every single nutrients and enzymes that would benefit the follicle, and dont have full 100% blood rushing up there scalp to reach that potential. For me boiling onions work and a growth oil that I use.
I heard of many people using monistat as well. I think many who keep saying to be patient or say you can't grow your hair faster just aren't being supportive nor care. Your hair can grow faster if it isn't again the maximum potential. So you can try and see because for many they find that the potential for there growth rate is a lot higher. This was on a post I made. :)
Also again everyone is different. Some people have already reached there potential and many have not. You can be completely healthy and still be able to grow ur hair faster because everyone's genetics is different. That is a more appropriate answer to me. Patience is everything as well but aa long as you enjoy the ride while trying to encourage growth. You're good.

Here are some studies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPGDl_gB2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t6Lli2sqC4

- This link shows an individual who documents her journey with onion juice. It has worked for me as well.
- Ladies results after using onion juice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csFqH1syNKI

- This girl soaked cayenne pepper in oil for two weeks, took the cayenne out and used the oil. I haven't used this. So why not add. lol.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289931/

- Study on peppermint oil. They used mice.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843973/

- Study on lavender oil. Mice as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25842469

- Study on Rosemary essential oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4740347/

- Study on scalp massages results in thicker hair.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4350143/

- Red Ginseng apparently grows hair as well

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5307826/

- Geranium Sibiricum also grows hair. More than minoxidil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637267/

- Thuja orientalis apparently grows hair as well. You can get it in the form of an essential oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3578824/

- Ginger apparently SLOWS your hair growth rate.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3144892/

- Spermidine grows hair. It is only present in foods. So you can search up what is most spermidine rich.

[Cate36]

We all genetically have a maximum growth rate potential. So for all I know this might not work for you but most people don't eat the healthiest, don't have every single nutrients and enzymes that would benefit the follicle, and dont have full 100% blood rushing up there scalp to reach that potential. For me boiling onions work and a growth oil that I use.
I heard of many people using monistat as well. I think many who keep saying to be patient or say you can't grow your hair faster just aren't being supportive nor care. Your hair can grow faster if it isn't again the maximum potential. So you can try and see because for many they find that the potential for there growth rate is a lot higher. This was on a post I made. :)

Here are some studies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRPGDl_gB2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t6Lli2sqC4

- This link shows an individual who documents her journey with onion juice. It has worked for me as well.
- Ladies results after using onion juice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csFqH1syNKI

- This girl soaked cayenne pepper in oil for two weeks, took the cayenne out and used the oil. I haven't used this. So why not add. lol.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4289931/

- Study on peppermint oil. They used mice.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843973/

- Study on lavender oil. Mice as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25842469

- Study on Rosemary essential oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4740347/

- Study on scalp massages results in thicker hair.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4350143/

- Red Ginseng apparently grows hair as well

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5307826/

- Geranium Sibiricum also grows hair. More than minoxidil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3637267/

- Thuja orientalis apparently grows hair as well. You can get it in the form of an essential oil.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3578824/

- Ginger apparently SLOWS your hair growth rate.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3144892/

- Spermidine grows hair. It is only present in foods. So you can search up what is most spermidine rich.

Thanks LittleOgre . have been following your other thread also. I believe your points as well... we can always enhance what we naturally have by lifestyle.

[blackgothicdoll]

You don't necessarily have to avoid oils on your scalp if you don't notice anything negative from using them there. We are all different. I am one who doesn't shed from applying oils on my scalp, and I definitely find them very helpful in terms of scalp health and massages.

+1 on this, oils on my scalp are very beneficial (for me). I think the type of oil definitely depends - if you don't dilute your essential oils you could have problems, if you're allergic to the oil, if the oil is too thick and clogs your follicles....

There's also the difference of applying oils to your scalp and leaving them, or applying them and washing them off. Some like the former and others the latter.

But yes, the gist is you don't know until you try. I guess the thought of having adverse effects is scary, though.

[Cate36]

+1 on this, oils on my scalp are very beneficial (for me). I think the type of oil definitely depends - if you don't dilute your essential oils you could have problems, if you're allergic to the oil, if the oil is too thick and clogs your follicles....

There's also the difference of applying oils to your scalp and leaving them, or applying them and washing them off. Some like the former and others the latter.

But yes, the gist is you don't know until you try. I guess the thought of having adverse effects is scary, though.

That's my problem.. I am so quick to rush out and try something, or buy a new product... I did this yesterday, purchased a copper spray for my scalp (Tricomin) after reading some great reviews about it thickening and energising follicles.... then after I used it, I read a heap of negative reviews talking about increased shedding and hair fall.. and totally panicked...washed my scalp..

I have used oils on my scalp before with no negative effect.. but I don't want to use them unless I wash my hair.. and I am trying trying trying to extend time between washes and avoid washing every day, which has been a habit for me pretty much for life..

I love using rosemary each day, but how I can use it without oil? Is there a way to dilute it with another substance that I may not need to wash out?

My shower cap is a saviour at the moment.. as it keeps my hair soft over night and slightly moist, and out the way during the day while I am working,,. so I don't stress as much or feel the need to run my hands through my hair as much..

[Ylva]

That's my problem.. I am so quick to rush out and try something, or buy a new product... I did this yesterday, purchased a copper spray for my scalp (Tricomin) after reading some great reviews about it thickening and energising follicles.... then after I used it, I read a heap of negative reviews talking about increased shedding and hair fall.. and totally panicked...washed my scalp..

I have used oils on my scalp before with no negative effect.. but I don't want to use them unless I wash my hair..

Perhaps a hair product timeout would do you good? Like, make a decision that you won't buy any new product until x date or until you've used up what you have and determined if you want to repurchase any of those. I think you know yourself as well that rushing into things is no good.

That's how I use oils as well, a couple of hours before I wash my hair. If that works for you, then it's totally cool.

[akurah]

Thanks LittleOgre . have been following your other thread also. I believe your points as well... we can always enhance what we naturally have by lifestyle.

Please do not put Cayenne pepper infused oil on your scalp as suggested by one of the links provided. Cayenne pepper is strong enough to cause burns on the skin, especially if you have sensitive skin, and cayenne infused oil is probably not a good idea.

Experimenting is all good and well, but if your goal is to keep your hair ON your head, honestly, the risk is not worth it.

[lapushka]

Hmm.. the only thing that touches my scalp at the moment is olaplex (including their shampoo) have there been any negative side effects from these that you know of?

I haven't heard a thing about negative effects of Olaplex on the scalp. :flower:

[lapushka]

That's my problem.. I am so quick to rush out and try something, or buy a new product... I did this yesterday, purchased a copper spray for my scalp (Tricomin) after reading some great reviews about it thickening and energising follicles.... then after I used it, I read a heap of negative reviews talking about increased shedding and hair fall.. and totally panicked...washed my scalp..

I have used oils on my scalp before with no negative effect.. but I don't want to use them unless I wash my hair.. and I am trying trying trying to extend time between washes and avoid washing every day, which has been a habit for me pretty much for life..

I love using rosemary each day, but how I can use it without oil? Is there a way to dilute it with another substance that I may not need to wash out?

My shower cap is a saviour at the moment.. as it keeps my hair soft over night and slightly moist, and out the way during the day while I am working,,. so I don't stress as much or feel the need to run my hands through my hair as much..

You know quite well that you aren't doing yourself any favors by rushing into things and jumping on almost anything that promises a good result.

I think I don't have to repeat myself on the benign neglect & TLC, right? ;)

[blackgothicdoll]

That's my problem.. I am so quick to rush out and try something, or buy a new product... I did this yesterday, purchased a copper spray for my scalp (Tricomin) after reading some great reviews about it thickening and energising follicles.... then after I used it, I read a heap of negative reviews talking about increased shedding and hair fall.. and totally panicked...washed my scalp..

I have used oils on my scalp before with no negative effect.. but I don't want to use them unless I wash my hair.. and I am trying trying trying to extend time between washes and avoid washing every day, which has been a habit for me pretty much for life..

I love using rosemary each day, but how I can use it without oil? Is there a way to dilute it with another substance that I may not need to wash out?

My shower cap is a saviour at the moment.. as it keeps my hair soft over night and slightly moist, and out the way during the day while I am working,,. so I don't stress as much or feel the need to run my hands through my hair as much..

Been there done that... that's why I have a bathroom + guest bathroom overflowing with stuff I never use. Some of it went in the trash too, and urgh I hate waste. I agree with Ylva in taking a buying hiatus, start using the stuff that you do have, decide which ones you like and don't like.

When it comes to doing something to benefit your hair, you have to do it over a period of time - doing it once and then doing something else isn't really going to give you any result, and if you get a result you won't know how you got it.

As for the rosemary, this video comes into mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmnZIpNMwoU

I've never tried herbal hair rinses myself so I can't speak on the effectiveness or not. I don't think it'd be something you could do every day though unless you wash your hair daily.

[LittleOgre]

Please do not put Cayenne pepper infused oil on your scalp as suggested by one of the links provided. Cayenne pepper is strong enough to cause burns on the skin, especially if you have sensitive skin, and cayenne infused oil is probably not a good idea.

Experimenting is all good and well, but if your goal is to keep your hair ON your head, honestly, the risk is not worth it.

Honestly it's best you at least provide proof of this since this was so required of me. Otherwise it's pure speculation especially since I haven't seen anything bad with it. At all.

[LittleOgre]

Been there done that... that's why I have a bathroom + guest bathroom overflowing with stuff I never use. Some of it went in the trash too, and urgh I hate waste. I agree with Ylva in taking a buying hiatus, start using the stuff that you do have, decide which ones you like and don't like.

When it comes to doing something to benefit your hair, you have to do it over a period of time - doing it once and then doing something else isn't really going to give you any result, and if you get a result you won't know how you got it.

As for the rosemary, this video comes into mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmnZIpNMwoU

I've never tried herbal hair rinses myself so I can't speak on the effectiveness or not. I don't think it'd be something you could do every day though unless you wash your hair daily.

Maybe it's best to stick with natural things rather than products if you're not familiar with all the ingredients

[Cate36]

Been there done that... that's why I have a bathroom + guest bathroom overflowing with stuff I never use. Some of it went in the trash too, and urgh I hate waste. I agree with Ylva in taking a buying hiatus, start using the stuff that you do have, decide which ones you like and don't like.

When it comes to doing something to benefit your hair, you have to do it over a period of time - doing it once and then doing something else isn't really going to give you any result, and if you get a result you won't know how you got it.

As for the rosemary, this video comes into mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmnZIpNMwoU

I've never tried herbal hair rinses myself so I can't speak on the effectiveness or not. I don't think it'd be something you could do every day though unless you wash your hair daily.

Yes I take your point totally.. I thought that after buying this product. There are so many good reviews on it.. but the bad reviews on Amazon freaked me out completely..

When I hennaed my hair I purchased SO many shampoos, conditioners, leave in sprays etc to try and tone the colour or get rid of it.. they are now all in plastic bags under my sink.. if anyone here is in Melbourne Oz, and wants to come to my place to retrieve them let me know!

The only things I am putting on my hair at the moment are Olaplex, Khairpep, and a leave in conditioner... As for my scalp.. I'm only using the products I put in my first post.. they have not caused any issues..so....

[blackgothicdoll]

Yes I take your point totally.. I thought that after buying this product. There are so many good reviews on it.. but the bad reviews on Amazon freaked me out completely..

When I hennaed my hair I purchased SO many shampoos, conditioners, leave in sprays etc to try and tone the colour or get rid of it.. they are now all in plastic bags under my sink.. if anyone here is in Melbourne Oz, and wants to come to my place to retrieve them let me know!

The only things I am putting on my hair at the moment are Olaplex, Khairpep, and a leave in conditioner... As for my scalp.. I'm only using the products I put in my first post.. they have not caused any issues..so....

See, that's good! And if you know they work, you're off to a good start. Just work on a good routine/regimen and it'll be easier to try one thing at a time, interchangeably and see what works and doesn't!

Yeah, reading reviews is rough, cuz one person will say it changed their life while the next will say it ruined it... you just never know!

[akurah]

Honestly it's best you at least provide proof of this since this was so required of me. Otherwise it's pure speculation especially since I haven't seen anything bad with it. At all.

https://www.everydayhealth.com/drugs/capsaicin-topical

https://www.self.com/story/3-diy-face-mask-ingredients-to-think-twice-about

[blackgothicdoll]

Maybe it's best to stick with natural things rather than products if you're not familiar with all the ingredients

Not all natural things work anyways. I tried an avocado and greek yogurt DC and my hair smelled like old avocado and baby vomit for like the next month lol. Meh.. learned from that one.

[LittleOgre]

https://www.everydayhealth.com/drugs/capsaicin-topical

https://www.self.com/story/3-diy-face-mask-ingredients-to-think-twice-about

The first link mainly directs it to allergies as well as overall the point is if you have sensitive skin. It's not the best for you. And make sure not to put an insane amount. A patch **** will always work if ur truly scared and that should be with any product or natural ingredients with side effects included.

[LittleOgre]

Not all natural things work anyways. I tried an avocado and greek yogurt DC and my hair smelled like old avocado and baby vomit for like the next month lol. Meh.. learned from that one.

I wouldn't consider Greek yogurt natural. But I wouldn't have tried it anyways XD sounds horrible!

[Ylva]

Maybe it's best to stick with natural things rather than products if you're not familiar with all the ingredients

I don't quite agree. I'm all for natural remedies, but if you (= one, generally) don't know what you're doing, you could easily cause more harm than good by "going solo". When you're NOT familiar with ingredients, you should probably stick to commercial stuff and gradually expand your knowledge. :)

[Genne]

OK stopping now :( I wish I had known.. I tend to trust way too easily.. but after you mentioned it, I googled the medication and there are so many men out there that lost all their growth after stopping.. just awful..

Hi,
I'd lost hair permanently after using products with this in it, (in 2012-2013, ) then I had hair stylists insist on using keratin spray and then flat heat products three times in 2013. I've never recovered but am just now, 6 years later, just now, NOT unhappy with my hair. I henna'd it four days ago and then found this community. This is the first time since that hair fallout that I am not sad about my hair. :)!
Jen

[Cate36]

Hi,
I'd lost hair permanently after using products with this in it, (in 2012-2013, ) then I had hair stylists insist on using keratin spray and then flat heat products three times in 2013. I've never recovered but am just now, 6 years later, just now, NOT unhappy with my hair. I henna'd it four days ago and then found this community. This is the first time since that hair fallout that I am not sad about my hair. :)!
Jen

That's great!! So good to hear as I know how hard it is. I'm recovering well now. I found a Chinese herbalist that focuses on all natural stimulants to thicken hair, and the results have been amazing.. it's now just a waiting game for me.. but boy do I know how you feel Xx