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Ylva
November 25th, 2018, 01:17 PM
My original goal was to reach classic length by Yule of 2019, but sadly I went through a very stressful quarter of a year in the fall, resulting in a variety of health problems, including severe thinning of my already fairytaled ends. Breakage was also becoming an issue due to past idiocy with chemical treatments for which payment was due.

So I am starting the coming year with fresh ends, cutting off the thinnest "layer" of my ends as well as the very tips of the next "layer" (in quotation marks, because they aren't actual cut-in layers but rather chemical treatment phasing alongside natural taper), which will likely land me somewhere in the HL+ area, making classic by the end of 2019 an impossibility considering that I will be microtrimming my way there as well. Initially I was upset about it, but at the same time, I knew it had to be done and that this is indeed the right time to cut those very damaged ends off and be done with it.

Luckily, goals change all the time and there's nothing wrong with that. :) Anyone want to aim for this goal together with me and enjoy the journey regardless of what length we're at?

blesseddamozel
November 25th, 2018, 01:29 PM
Hmmm...wondering if this is a reasonable goal for me. My hair is at mid back length now, but the lower half of my torso is a lot shorter than the top portion. Also starting this coming year I'm doing a no trim experiment. For now I'll say I'm in, in the worst case I just come up short and aim for a further date :)

Ylva
November 25th, 2018, 01:31 PM
Hmmm...wondering if this is a reasonable goal for me. My hair is at mid back length now, but the lower half of my torso is a lot shorter than the top portion. Also starting this coming year I'm doing a no trim experiment. For now I'll say I'm in, in the worst case I just come up short and aim for a further date :)

No matter, this is still far away so you'll have time to go through a couple of growth spurts until then, too, maybe! :) I think you have a good shot at it.

amiraaah
November 25th, 2018, 02:20 PM
I don’t think it’s doable but i will join.my hair is touching bsl now at 26.2 inches and classic is about 40.i think with good diet my hair can grow a little bit more than avarege.:confused:

Ylva
November 25th, 2018, 03:11 PM
I don’t think it’s doable but i will join.my hair is touching bsl now at 26.2 inches and classic is about 40.i think with good diet my hair can grow a little bit more than avarege.:confused:

A good diet will certainly help! Do you do scalp massages? I have found them to increase my growth rate the most, especially when doing the inversion method as in massaging upside down.

Milady_DeWinter
November 26th, 2018, 01:10 AM
I'm so in!! I calculated TBL in 1 year from now, and classic in exactly 2 years if nothing happens, including my normal trims! I'm at hip+ (35") now :)

Ylva
November 26th, 2018, 02:57 AM
I'm so in!! I calculated TBL in 1 year from now, and classic in exactly 2 years if nothing happens, including my normal trims! I'm at hip+ (35") now :)

Yay, welcome! :)

Joules
November 26th, 2018, 04:30 AM
This one's way more realistic for me too. I'm calling BCL this Christmas, and I think could push things and get to Classic in one year, but I definitely won't enjoy it, and the taper would make it look like I've got only 3 long strands of hair hanging down. Maybe - just maybe - I could comfortably reach Classic by Summer of 2019.

But really, I don't even know what kind of a stupid idea I'll have tomorrow, I might shave my head to get rid of henna for all I know, my brain has been too unpredictable lately :bluebiggr so I'm not saying anything for sure, but just to be on the safe side I'm giving myself two years to reach Classic. That is if terminal doesn't come earlier. If I can do it by Yule 2019, it'll be nice; if I can't, it'll be nice too.

Milady_DeWinter
November 26th, 2018, 04:55 AM
Yay, we are more!

I'm almost BCL now (I'm 35", BCL is 36"), but will trim for the new year 1-1,5", so I'll be calling BCL sometime during spring.

TBL is 38"; in 1 year I'll get there! Then, CL is 42" for me: i grow almost exactly 6" a year, and try to trim 2" of them; that will allow me to be at classic with a more or less decent hemline sometime during november 2020 or a bit before, with a couple of months to adjust. So, being realistic, it's a totally affordable goal for me :)

GrowlingCupcake
November 26th, 2018, 05:31 AM
I'm in! I plan on no trims till classic, though I might cut in some face framing layers.

I'm nearly at BCL (36 inches). I'll hit TBL (40) by 2019, and classic is 45 inches so end of 2020 will be perfect. I'm not sure how much I grow per year but it's probably around 4 to 6 inches. My ends won't be good but at least I'll find out if I can grow to classic.

Ylva
November 26th, 2018, 03:01 PM
Welcome Joules and GrowlingCupcake!

I also thought that while I could just go no-trimming and possibly still reach classic length by Yule 2019, I rather allow myself trims when needed and want to ease into the habit of microtrimming, so two years seemed like a good timeframe.

Dark40
November 26th, 2018, 07:18 PM
I'm joining in! I'm almost at WL now, and I had said that I would be at BCL at the end of 2019, and on me that is 5" away. So, I honestly think it's doable with proper diet my hair can grow lot more.

Ylva
November 26th, 2018, 07:20 PM
I'm joining in! I'm almost at WL now, and I had said that I would be at BCL at the end of 2019, and on me that is 5" away. So, I honestly think it's doable with proper diet my hair can grow lot more.

Welcome, Dark40! So you don't think you'll reach classic by the end of 2019? :(

Wendyp
November 26th, 2018, 07:31 PM
I知 in! I think this is very doable for me too as I値l continue to trim away damage! Good luck everyone! :disco:

Ylva
November 27th, 2018, 05:00 AM
I’m in! I think this is very doable for me too as I’ll continue to trim away damage! Good luck everyone! :disco:

Welcome, Wendyp! Fun to have you grow with us! :)

Dark40
November 28th, 2018, 08:55 PM
Welcome, Dark40! So you don't think you'll reach classic by the end of 2019? :(

Thank you for the warm welcome Yiva! No, My waistline is short. Or, I have a short torso, and on me that 16", and BCL is 22". My hair grows slow throughout the year. So, no I don't think that I will make it to classic by the end of 2019. :(

Ylva
November 29th, 2018, 04:36 AM
Thank you for the warm welcome Yiva! No, My waistline is short. Or, I have a short torso, and on me that 16", and BCL is 22". My hair grows slow throughout the year. So, no I don't think that I will make it to classic by the end of 2019. :(

I see. That's too bad! But luckily there's nothing wrong with taking your time either, and it's always nice to have a bit of room for trims, too, if needed. :) That's something I noticed while being in the no-trimming challenge for the latter half of this year. While it's fun and awesome for growth, I certainly prefer the freedom to trim if I really feel like it. I'm determined to finish it, and I will, but it was a learning experience at least.

. . .

Well, I could post my current hair here as well. This is where I'm currently at. But I am going to trim off the worst ends at New Year, still undecided on the exact amount of length that's coming off initially.

https://i.ibb.co/kyhJLF3/hiukset281118.jpg

GrowlingCupcake
November 29th, 2018, 12:33 PM
Welcome Joules and GrowlingCupcake!

I also thought that while I could just go no-trimming and possibly still reach classic length by Yule 2019, I rather allow myself trims when needed and want to ease into the habit of microtrimming, so two years seemed like a good timeframe.

For me, length is more important than my ends right now; I really want to know if I can make it to classic at all, and since my hair is always up, my ends aren't very important to me. Plus, I sort of see my current hair as practice hair since it's dyed, and will be henna'd in a bit. I'm using it to learn good hair habits, but eventually, it'll all be cut off since I want virgin hair. My plan is to grow to classic, maintain for a year or two, and then no-trims for another two years to see if I can get to knee. If I make it to knee, I'll probably maintain till I am happy with my ends, and then start growing again. I doubt I will, though! I'll probably hit terminal first.

Even with the see-through ends issue, your hair looks great :)

ETA: I just realised what a hodge podge my hair colour will be if I end up getting married in five years xD I'll have about 20 to 23 inches of virgin hair which will be around my shoulder blades, while the rest will be dye + henna.

Ylva
November 29th, 2018, 04:43 PM
For me, length is more important than my ends right now; I really want to know if I can make it to classic at all, and since my hair is always up, my ends aren't very important to me. Plus, I sort of see my current hair as practice hair since it's dyed, and will be henna'd in a bit. I'm using it to learn good hair habits, but eventually, it'll all be cut off since I want virgin hair. My plan is to grow to classic, maintain for a year or two, and then no-trims for another two years to see if I can get to knee. If I make it to knee, I'll probably maintain till I am happy with my ends, and then start growing again. I doubt I will, though! I'll probably hit terminal first.

Even with the see-through ends issue, your hair looks great :)

ETA: I just realised what a hodge podge my hair colour will be if I end up getting married in five years xD I'll have about 20 to 23 inches of virgin hair which will be around my shoulder blades, while the rest will be dye + henna.

That's fair enough, too. If my hair wasn't so damn picky and demanding, I'd probably go the length priority route, too. I understand what you mean about practice hair, though! Good luck with your goals. :)

Thank you. :) If it was just about looks, I'd probably keep it, but sadly the ends are also tangling a lot.

Haha, your hair will be a unique snowflake!

Dark40
November 29th, 2018, 05:51 PM
I see. That's too bad! But luckily there's nothing wrong with taking your time either, and it's always nice to have a bit of room for trims, too, if needed. :) That's something I noticed while being in the no-trimming challenge for the latter half of this year. While it's fun and awesome for growth, I certainly prefer the freedom to trim if I really feel like it. I'm determined to finish it, and I will, but it was a learning experience at least.

. . .

Well, I could post my current hair here as well. This is where I'm currently at. But I am going to trim off the worst ends at New Year, still undecided on the exact amount of length that's coming off initially.

https://i.ibb.co/kyhJLF3/hiukset281118.jpg

Yeah! Well, like you've said, "It's better to take my time with it and leave room for trims. All I'm planning on doing for 2019 is to continue the, "No Trim Challenge," and only do a lot of dustings. I feel that will help me out a lot more than just trimming off a lot of hair all at once. And, the amount of dustings I will do whenever I feel there is a need, and that is not too often. Maybe like, ever 6 months. Whenever I trim I only have to take off 1cm, and that's not too often. Because, my hair hardly ever gets damaged. Thank you for sharing your current length! :) Your ends do appear to be a little thin. In my opinion, I think you should take off a couple of inches. But it's up to you.

MoonChildCurls
November 30th, 2018, 01:09 AM
I'm not sure if my hair will make it by then, but I'm going to shoot for it. Count me in!

Ylva
November 30th, 2018, 04:17 AM
Yeah! Well, like you've said, "It's better to take my time with it and leave room for trims. All I'm planning on doing for 2019 is to continue the, "No Trim Challenge," and only do a lot of dustings. I feel that will help me out a lot more than just trimming off a lot of hair all at once. And, the amount of dustings I will do whenever I feel there is a need, and that is not too often. Maybe like, ever 6 months. Whenever I trim I only have to take off 1cm, and that's not too often. Because, my hair hardly ever gets damaged. Thank you for sharing your current length! :) Your ends do appear to be a little thin. In my opinion, I think you should take off a couple of inches. But it's up to you.

Yeah, that sounds good!

Thanks for your opinion. It's not the thinness per se that bothers me, I don't mind my ends being thin while growing my hair out, but I am planning to cut off the worst damage from the ends which is tangling a lot and causing more harm than good.


I'm not sure if my hair will make it by then, but I'm going to shoot for it. Count me in!

Welcome to the party!

Dark40
November 30th, 2018, 07:30 PM
Yeah, that sounds good!

Thanks for your opinion. It's not the thinness per se that bothers me, I don't mind my ends being thin while growing my hair out, but I am planning to cut off the worst damage from the ends which is tangling a lot and causing more harm than good.



Welcome to the party!

Ok, great!

You're welcome for the opinion. Oh, I see. I don't care for thin ends too much as my hair grows out. I always like for hair to grow out thick. Well, it's naturally thick anyways. Yes, that's a good thing to cut off the worst damage from the ends which is tangling a lot and causing more harm than good. Boy, I hate it when my hair gets really tangled! When that happens that's where I go to my holly grail detangling product. Which Mane N Tail. I use 2 products to detangle my hair. The Mane N Tail and Isoplus Leave-In Conditioner.

Ylva
November 30th, 2018, 07:45 PM
Ok, great!

You're welcome for the opinion. Oh, I see. I don't care for thin ends too much as my hair grows out. I always like for hair to grow out thick. Well, it's naturally thick anyways. Yes, that's a good thing to cut off the worst damage from the ends which is tangling a lot and causing more harm than good. Boy, I hate it when my hair gets really tangled! When that happens that's where I go to my holly grail detangling product. Which Mane N Tail. I use 2 products to detangle my hair. The Mane N Tail and Isoplus Leave-In Conditioner.

That's nice that you don't need to worry too much about thickness while growing your hair. I have to make do with my fine Nordic hair. :) But everything has its pros and cons, so I'm not bothered.

Dark40
November 30th, 2018, 07:58 PM
That's nice that you don't need to worry too much about thickness while growing your hair. I have to make do with my fine Nordic hair. :) But everything has its pros and cons, so I'm not bothered.

Awww, thank you. That's nice that you're not bothered by have fine Nordic hair too. :) Well, my hair is considered fine and thick. I've joined the thread on here that says for, "Fine and Thick Hair." Especially, with me chemically relaxing it. The chemcials from the relaxer changes the whole structure and texture of my hair.

Ylva
December 7th, 2018, 06:46 PM
I don't know what my growth goal for the end of 2019 should be. I guess it depends on how much I end up cutting off after New Year, but so far it looks like I might land at hip or slightly below that. Hip-BCL is long on me, since I'm high hipped. Maybe BCL by the end of 2019, then try and go for classic by the end of 2020? I know I want to be quite scissor happy in 2019, especially during the first half, and then gradually ease into less hindered growth once I have gotten rid of some damage at the ends, still microtrimming though.

I haven't done any calculations, although I probably should try and see what comes out of that.

Dark40
December 7th, 2018, 07:15 PM
Ok. Yeah, BCL or hip length does sounds nice for the time being! I also consider that long on me too/ I'm also hoping to be either at BCL or Classic at the end of 2019 too. Yes, shoot for classic by the end of 2020! Yeah, I know whatcha mean about being scissor happy during the first half of 2019. I've stopped being all scissor happy many years ago. I try my best to take good care of my hair so that I don't have to put any scissors to it as much as possible. Yes, I know whatcha mean about getting rid of the damaged ends. It is best to get rid of those. Yes, continue to do the microtrimming.

Yes, do some calculations and see what you come up with.

MidnightMoon
December 8th, 2018, 07:29 AM
Lol @ the "nordic" hair thing. What's that? I thought fine hair is fine hair here or in Zimbabwe.

Anyhow, this regular fine haired person here would probably end up at classic by Christmas 2020 considering I've cut off too much this year. Thing is... I'm actually thinking of cut ting it (Thanks, Dark40). Ok no, but seriously. After a certain point it looks like a hanging drape or some bear coat. It's so fine that my ends look dry and in my opinion give the hair a sort of neglected look.
They are not even thin anymore, it's just that their appearance changes, they are frizzier, stiffer, less shiny, and just lay together but not nicely... and I've had long hair for over 10 years now (with cuts inbetween). Might as well try something new that is fun to me and actually enhances my look. And dyeing+straightening with my hair type is just not possible at tailbone.

Ylva
December 8th, 2018, 08:06 AM
Lol @ the "nordic" hair thing. What's that? I thought fine hair is fine hair here or in Zimbabwe.

People often talk about Nordic hair around here. Certainly there can be fine hair all over the place, but I think it refers to the hair type overall, everything about it, the thickness, the feel, the colour and so on. The type of hair that typically comes with Nordic genes. It's like calling certain type of hair African hair, because it's typically what accompanies African genes. Asian hair is also a common expression. But sure, people always turn things into some sort of assumptions of superiority, it's in fashion these days after all.

Joules
December 8th, 2018, 11:06 AM
Ylva, people often talk about Slavic hair here in Russia (fine to medium dirty blonde, there's even a specific word for this color in our language), so I guess associating a certain hair type with an ethnicity is a common thing.

Ylva
December 8th, 2018, 11:13 AM
Joules, yeah, I definitely think so. In Finnish, the hair colour is attractively called 'road grey', which refers to a type of dark ash blonde.

MidnightMoon
December 8th, 2018, 11:19 AM
People often talk about Nordic hair around here. Certainly there can be fine hair all over the place, but I think it refers to the hair type overall, everything about it, the thickness, the feel, the colour and so on. The type of hair that typically comes with Nordic genes. It's like calling certain type of hair African hair, because it's typically what accompanies African genes. Asian hair is also a common expression. But sure, people always turn things into some sort of assumptions of superiority, it's in fashion these days after all.

I'm not sure why "Nordic" would have anything to do with superiority. I'd also wonder what is Asian hair since there's many countries in Asia. Stereotypical Indian hair is quite different from Japanese. I also don't know what are "African genes". You mean people from Tunisia or Morocco, or central Africa? There's quite a difference between people in a whole continent, just to give that as an example. I believe people have migrated, mixed, and all that so much that I don't know how one could claim to have some trait specific to a group based on some imaginary division. How long would I and my descendants have to live in Scandinavia for our genes to catch up? I mean, when did "Nordic" people stop being African and become Nordic? Does it mean they stayed in this territory mixing between each other with no other population until now? What about someone who looks exactly like you described but has nothing to do with any of those countries?
Ah well, nevermind, I just don't think it's as simple as classifying people by hair or eye colour. There's much more in play and you could end up having to describe in much more detail every single trait that differentiates one group from another. Which would lead to nothing since I bet I could find a Russian, a German, someone from the US and from Sweden and you couldn't tell them apart.
I really hope you don't think there's something as "African" genes, though. Please take a look at just how large is Africa, how different people are (there's more than just having "dark" skin)... their bone structure, lips, noses, eyes, hair... my husband is half "African" and he has blue eyes, brown hair and is 6'4. People actually think he's Russian.
And it's not that he's an exception, it's that people from northern African countries look more like what people call Arabic, often having light eyes, tan skin, softer hair texture, and so on...

MidnightMoon
December 8th, 2018, 11:24 AM
Ylva, people often talk about Slavic hair here in Russia (fine to medium dirty blonde, there's even a specific word for this color in our language), so I guess associating a certain hair type with an ethnicity is a common thing.

Just because there's a specific name for it doesn't mean it's unique to some "group". That's just pretty much the most common hair colour in central Europe...
I'm in Germany and it's the same. People often dye it blonde.

Ylva
December 8th, 2018, 11:29 AM
I'm not sure why "Nordic" would have anything to do with superiority. I'd also wonder what is Asian hair since there's many countries in Asia. Stereotypical Indian hair is quite different from Japanese. I also don't know what are "African genes". You mean people from Tunisia or Morocco, or central Africa? There's quite a difference between people in a whole continent, just to give that as an example. I believe people have migrated, mixed, and all that so much that I don't know how one could claim to have some trait specific to a group based on some imaginary division. How long would I and my descendants have to live in Scandinavia for our genes to catch up? I mean, when did "Nordic" people stop being African and become Nordic? Does it mean they stayed in this territory mixing between each other with no other population until now? What about someone who looks exactly like you described but has nothing to do with any of those countries?
Ah well, nevermind, I just don't think it's as simple as classifying people by hair or eye colour. There's much more in play and you could end up having to describe in much more detail every single trait that differentiates one group from another. Which would lead to nothing since I bet I could find a Russian, a German, someone from the US and from Sweden and you couldn't tell them apart.
I really hope you don't think there's something as "African" genes, though. Please take a look at just how large is Africa, how different people are (there's more than just having "dark" skin)... their bone structure, lips, noses, eyes, hair... my husband is half "African" and he has blue eyes, brown hair and is 6'4. People actually think he's Russian.
And it's not that he's an exception, it's that people from northern African countries look more like what people call Arabic, often having light eyes, tan skin, softer hair texture, and so on...

Northern Africa is Arabic, though, so "African genes" does not apply to that. Heck, I have 0.1% African heritage myself, and generally that refers to sub-Saharan Africa, which then again has sub-catefories. Ethnic groups aren't tied to the equivalent continents.

When people say African, Asian, Nordic and so on hair, they're referring to a variety of qualities that are commonly associated with those ethnicities.

If someone looks exactly like I described but has nothing to do with the Nordics, then good for them I guess, it's really not such a deep matter if I call my hair Nordic hair.

I'm well aware that northern Africa is not "African" per se, I honestly do not need to be educated about this.

I just happen to be a Nordic person with typical Nordic type hair. Nothing more special about it than that.

Ylva
December 8th, 2018, 11:30 AM
Just because there's a specific name for it doesn't mean it's unique to some "group". That's just pretty much the most common hair colour in central Europe...
I'm in Germany and it's the same. People often dye it blonde.

No one has claimed anything to be unique to any group. Just typical and associated with it.

Ylva
December 8th, 2018, 11:36 AM
And to answer your question which I missed (difficult to see and reply on phone), a person/people stop being x gradually when enough genetic mutations have taken place to distinguish the genes of that group from the other group.

MidnightMoon
December 8th, 2018, 11:43 AM
Well good for you if you choose to describe yourself in that way. It's just that in my opinion it's an outdated and rather narrow term invented by someone.
And my point with Joules example was that dark blonde/light brown hair can be found in many countries whose population, by this imaginary classification, would belong in different groups. Makes it a bit hard when different traits are scattered across the world. Is my wavy hair Arabic, African, is it African brown, Asian brown, Mediterranean brown...?

Will soon be Celtic red, I guess. If that's a thing.

Dark40
December 8th, 2018, 11:43 AM
Lol @ the "nordic" hair thing. What's that? I thought fine hair is fine hair here or in Zimbabwe.

Anyhow, this regular fine haired person here would probably end up at classic by Christmas 2020 considering I've cut off too much this year. Thing is... I'm actually thinking of cut ting it (Thanks, Dark40). Ok no, but seriously. After a certain point it looks like a hanging drape or some bear coat. It's so fine that my ends look dry and in my opinion give the hair a sort of neglected look.
They are not even thin anymore, it's just that their appearance changes, they are frizzier, stiffer, less shiny, and just lay together but not nicely... and I've had long hair for over 10 years now (with cuts inbetween). Might as well try something new that is fun to me and actually enhances my look. And dyeing+straightening with my hair type is just not possible at tailbone.

You're welcome, MidnightMoon! How long is your hair now? That's good that the ends are no longer thin! I love a nice thick hemline! From where you from do you get products for frizzy hair? Because, if you don't you can order them online. I know an excellent product you can try for frizzy unshiny hair! It's called, "Garnier Fructis Sleep & Shine Leave-In Conditioning Cream." It really works my thick frizz hair lots of wonders!!! I also use their styling milk as well for the humid weather. Oh ok, so you've had long hair for many years then. Yeah, it's always good to try something new to enhance your look that is fun. Oh, dyeinng+straightening at tailbone length isn't nothing comparing to my longtime girlfriend that had ankle length hair, and she was getting her hair straightened +dyeing it at the same time! So, it's not impossible.

MidnightMoon
December 8th, 2018, 11:48 AM
You're welcome, MidnightMoon! How long is your hair now? That's good that the ends are no longer thin! I love a nice thick hemline! From where you from do you get products for frizzy hair? Because, if you don't you can order them online. I know an excellent product you can try for frizzy unshiny hair! It's called, "Garnier Fructis Sleep & Shine Leave-In Conditioning Cream." It really works my thick frizz hair lots of wonders!!! I also use their styling milk as well for the humid weather. Oh ok, so you've had long hair for many years then. Yeah, it's always good to try something new to enhance your look that is fun. Oh, dyeinng+straightening at tailbone length isn't nothing comparing to my longtime girlfriend that had ankle length hair, and she was getting her hair straightened +dyeing it at the same time! So, it's not impossible.

Thanks for the product suggestion. I'm afraid it wouldn't be possible for me, though, dyeing and straightening and keeping it long. It's just too much for my hair. It really is too fragile. But I think I'm serious about getting a cut. Would make my life easier and more fun. And being honest I do look like a wild bear from the woods sometimes, which I don't appreciate. I want to look more polished, and make my hair sort of an asset, not something that worsens my look.

Joules
December 8th, 2018, 11:50 AM
Just because there's a specific name for it doesn't mean it's unique to some "group". That's just pretty much the most common hair colour in central Europe...
I'm in Germany and it's the same. People often dye it blonde.

I didn't mean it was unique. I meant that I understood where Ylva was coming from when she said "Nordic" hair. It wasn't to highlight any kind of uniqueness, it was just an expression that is often used in her language. I coud have said something about Slavic hair automatically, just because we call it so here where I live. Sometimes such words and expressions slip into my English, again, not to show how different one ethnicity is, but just because I'm used to describing it this way.

Ylva
January 2nd, 2019, 02:05 PM
Here's a (hopefully) proper length shot for a change. This is where I'm at after my trim, about halfway between HL and BCL. From here, I hope to be at BCL around summertime and then TBL by the end of 2019, all while microtrimming, but I might slow it down at some point. Right now I'm cutting 0.5 cm every 5-6 weeks (my monthly growth is 1.25 cm) to get rid of some of the damage and to try and have the thickness travel down.

https://i.ibb.co/GCZ9NsK/hiukset020119.jpg

I haven't done any mathematical calculations, but does my growth plan sound feasible to you guys?

Off topic: My hair becomes darn flat and straight the way I am styling it at the moment. o_O

Dark40
January 2nd, 2019, 04:41 PM
Here's a (hopefully) proper length shot for a change. This is where I'm at after my trim, about halfway between HL and BCL. From here, I hope to be at BCL around summertime and then TBL by the end of 2019, all while microtrimming, but I might slow it down at some point. Right now I'm cutting 0.5 cm every 5-6 weeks (my monthly growth is 1.25 cm) to get rid of some of the damage and to try and have the thickness travel down.

https://i.ibb.co/GCZ9NsK/hiukset020119.jpg

I haven't done any mathematical calculations, but does my growth plan sound feasible to you guys?

Off topic: My hair becomes darn flat and straight the way I am styling it at the moment. o_O

Your hair looks great there after your trim! :) I'm sure by the end of this year you will have made it to BCL or TBL. I think that growth rate sounds feasible to me. Mine grows at about 1.5 inches a month. You can say, "Mine grows almost 2" per month."

Hum, I don't understand why your hair becomes flat and straight because of the way you are styling it. Maybe it could be because of the texture of hair or hair type you have?

Milady_DeWinter
January 2nd, 2019, 04:44 PM
Yay Ylva, we are at the same lenght now! I also hope to hit BCL for the summer, or late spring. And TBL for next Christmas :):) Lovely pic BTW!

Ylva
January 2nd, 2019, 04:55 PM
Your hair looks great there after your trim! :) I'm sure by the end of this year you will have made it to BCL or TBL. I think that growth rate sounds feasible to me. Mine grows at about 1.5 inches a month. You can say, "Mine grows almost 2" per month."

Hum, I don't understand why your hair becomes flat and straight because of the way you are styling it. Maybe it could be because of the texture of hair or hair type you have?

Thank you! BCL should at least be easily doable. If I'm not exactly at TBL by the end of the year, that's okay, but I think I should be very close at least. Yeah, my hair grows at about average speed - 1.25 cm is around 0.5''.

It's because I don't encourage my waves in any way but rather the opposite. I apply my leave-ins finger-combing downwards and smoothing my hair as opposed to scrunching them in or letting my hair dry without any manipulation.


Yay Ylva, we are at the same lenght now! I also hope to hit BCL for the summer, or late spring. And TBL for next Christmas :):) Lovely pic BTW!

Yay, growth buddies! Do you call your milestones stretched or unstretched? Thank you so much! :)

Milady_DeWinter
January 2nd, 2019, 05:06 PM
Thank you! BCL should at least be easily doable. If I'm not exactly at TBL by the end of the year, that's okay, but I think I should be very close at least. Yeah, my hair grows at about average speed - 1.25 cm is around 0.5''.

It's because I don't encourage my waves in any way but rather the opposite. I apply my leave-ins finger-combing downwards and smoothing my hair as opposed to scrunching them in or letting my hair dry without any manipulation.



Yay, growth buddies! Do you call your milestones stretched or unstretched? Thank you so much! :)

Stretched, but not shower wet... just wavy/stretched :) I grow like 6" a year; need like 2 1/4" to be at BCL and 4" to be TBL, more or less :D With trims, I calculate summer and christmas.

browntatis
January 2nd, 2019, 06:37 PM
Hi!
I am in for the challenge! I realized that if I don't cut my hair, it grows really fast. I grew 22cm (8.6 inches) in one year and I went from SL to almost ML, in between that year I cut my hair into a V shape but I maintained the lenght.

Right now I am a month away from BSL so in 23 months I think I may be reaching or very close to Classic if my hair grows at the same speed :crush:
Do you all think it is possible?

I wanted to share my pic of that time I told you about :)
There is 2cm in between numbers.

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34911&d=1546478781

I also have a question but l am a little embarrassed to ask... what does BCL means?

Ylva
January 2nd, 2019, 06:40 PM
Stretched, but not shower wet... just wavy/stretched :) I grow like 6" a year; need like 2 1/4" to be at BCL and 4" to be TBL, more or less :D With trims, I calculate summer and christmas.

Sounds good! :D


Hi!
I am in for the challenge! I realized that if I don't cut my hair, it grows really fast. I grew 22cm (8.6 inches) in one year and I went from SL to a little passed BSL, in between that year I cut my hair into a V shape but I maintained the lenght.

Right now I am a month away from BSL so in 23 months I think I may be reaching or very close to Classic if my hair grows at the same speed :crush:
Do you all think it is possible?

I wanted to share my pic of that time I told you about :)
There is 2cm in between numbers.

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34911&d=1546478781

I also have a question but l am a little embarrassed to ask... what does BCL means?

Hey hey and welcome to the thread! :)

Wow, that's excellent growth! I don't think it impossible at all that you could reach classic around two years from now.

BCL is the glorious buttcrack length.

browntatis
January 2nd, 2019, 06:49 PM
Sounds good! :D



Hey hey and welcome to the thread! :)

Wow, that's excellent growth! I don't think it impossible at all that you could reach classic around two years from now.

BCL is the glorious buttcrack length.

Ooooh! So it is BCL and TBL the same thing?

Ylva
January 2nd, 2019, 07:00 PM
Ooooh! So it is BCL and TBL the same thing?

Some people say they are the same on them, but for me, TBL is an inch or two below BCL. There are also different ways to interpret TBL. Some say it's where the tailbone pokes out and that's where I consider it to be as well, since I can easily find that body marker. Some say it's where the entire bone thingy (advanced medical vocabulary) ends, but I don't know how to locate that. Either way, it's more than likely somewhere in the mid butt area.

browntatis
January 2nd, 2019, 07:09 PM
Some people say they are the same on them, but for me, TBL is an inch or two below BCL. There are also different ways to interpret TBL. Some say it's where the tailbone pokes out and that's where I consider it to be as well, since I can easily find that body marker. Some say it's where the entire bone thingy (advanced medical vocabulary) ends, but I don't know how to locate that. Either way, it's more than likely somewhere in the mid butt area.

Thank you so much! Yes, I believe we all don't have the samsame anatomy, but now I understand.

Ylva
January 2nd, 2019, 07:17 PM
Thank you so much! Yes, I believe we all don't have the samsame anatomy, but now I understand.

My pleasure! :) That's definitely true.

Dark40
January 3rd, 2019, 02:39 PM
Thank you! BCL should at least be easily doable. If I'm not exactly at TBL by the end of the year, that's okay, but I think I should be very close at least. Yeah, my hair grows at about average speed - 1.25 cm is around 0.5''.

It's because I don't encourage my waves in any way but rather the opposite. I apply my leave-ins finger-combing downwards and smoothing my hair as opposed to scrunching them in or letting my hair dry without any manipulation.



Yay, growth buddies! Do you call your milestones stretched or unstretched? Thank you so much! :)

You're welcome! Yeah, BCL should be doable is right or TBL. Because, you're not that far from those lengths right now. I didn't even notice your wavy hair, ok. Yes, that's what I also do for my leave-ins too. I spray them and use a wide tooth comb, and any creams I finger comb and smooth it in oppose to scrunching it in as well, and I also let my hair air dry so there's no manipulation too.

Flossiebell
January 3rd, 2019, 03:57 PM
I知 going to give this a whirl. I知 only just past bsl when wavy but if pulled straight (I think) I知 an inch or 2 from waist. So here痴 to optimism 😀

Ylva
January 3rd, 2019, 05:51 PM
I’m going to give this a whirl. I’m only just past bsl when wavy but if pulled straight (I think) I’m an inch or 2 from waist. So here’s to optimism ��

Welcome to the gang and good luck! All sorts of exciting stuff can happen in two years time! :)

Luna Starsetta
January 4th, 2019, 12:28 PM
Alright so i'm gonna throw some numbers at ya. I think classic length for me is about 40 inches. I measured January 31st 2018 stretched and came out with 32" and i just measured not long ago January 2nd 2019 and I am currently at 38". So I got 6 inches of growth meaning that if i continue to care for my hair as i have. reaching classic is extremely possible this year for me considering the math! Now if i divided and broke this down further. 6/12 is 0.5 meaning I get a half inch of growth per month. jan. feb.=1" mach. april.=2". So technically mathematically, I will be at classic by then. However while it will be there measurement wise on my body. It will not appear that way due to my curls and the shrinkage i get. so its gonna be a bit of a wait and see. question is when i call it... sorry for my rambles. however if any of you have anything to add please do! i would greatly appreciate it! Especially with me trying to figure out when exactly I should call classic. It will be such a huge milestone for me!:joy:

GrowlingCupcake
January 4th, 2019, 12:41 PM
Well, I'm at BCL so on track to get to TBL by the end of this year, even if I only get 4 inches. My roots have grown about 1.5 to 2 inches since the beginning of September (depending on where), and I went from 33 inches at beginning of June to 36 inches by the end of December. So I think I'm growing about 0.4 inches a month, 4.8 inches a year. I'll have to pay more attention this year.

Edit:


Alright so i'm gonna throw some numbers at ya. I think classic length for me is about 40 inches. I measured January 31st 2018 stretched and came out with 32" and i just measured not long ago January 2nd 2019 and I am currently at 38". So I got 6 inches of growth meaning that if i continue to care for my hair as i have. reaching classic is extremely possible this year for me considering the math! Now if i divided and broke this down further. 6/12 is 0.5 meaning I get a half inch of growth per month. jan. feb.=1" mach. april.=2". So technically mathematically, I will be at classic by then. However while it will be there measurement wise on my body. It will not appear that way due to my curls and the shrinkage i get. so its gonna be a bit of a wait and see. question is when i call it... sorry for my rambles. however if any of you have anything to add please do! i would greatly appreciate it! Especially with me trying to figure out when exactly I should call classic. It will be such a huge milestone for me!:joy:

I call when the majority of my hair is at the milestone when stretched. I usually measure it, rather than use body markers.

Luna Starsetta
January 4th, 2019, 02:45 PM
Well, I'm at BCL so on track to get to TBL by the end of this year, even if I only get 4 inches. My roots have grown about 1.5 to 2 inches since the beginning of September (depending on where), and I went from 33 inches at beginning of June to 36 inches by the end of December. So I think I'm growing about 0.4 inches a month, 4.8 inches a year. I'll have to pay more attention this year.

Edit:



I call when the majority of my hair is at the milestone when stretched. I usually measure it, rather than use body markers.

Thank you for your opinion I look forward to reading more!

almostghost
January 4th, 2019, 06:19 PM
I won't be able to reach classic, but I'll be getting close, around tailbone I think. How exciting! Good luck and happy growing to everyone else :D

Ylva
January 4th, 2019, 06:31 PM
Many of us seem to be reaching TBL by the end of this year. Cool!


I won't be able to reach classic, but I'll be getting close, around tailbone I think. How exciting! Good luck and happy growing to everyone else :D

You might get a growth spurt! :D

almostghost
January 4th, 2019, 06:40 PM
Many of us seem to be reaching TBL by the end of this year. Cool!



You might get a growth spurt! :D

Hey, I sure wouldn't mind one. :thumbsup: But even "just" at tailbone it'll be quite a bit longer than my hair's ever been before, so I'll still be really happy.

Ylva
January 4th, 2019, 06:44 PM
Hey, I sure wouldn't mind one. :thumbsup: But even "just" at tailbone it'll be quite a bit longer than my hair's ever been before, so I'll still be really happy.

I feel the same way. Even though classic is my goal, I really wouldn't mind if I was just able to maintain a thick, blunt hemline at tailbone. It's a really aesthetically pleasing length in my eyes! I know I can at least have fairytale ends at TBL, so perhaps with healthier ends, I'll be able to have them thick. :)

almostghost
January 4th, 2019, 07:18 PM
I feel the same way. Even though classic is my goal, I really wouldn't mind if I was just able to maintain a thick, blunt hemline at tailbone. It's a really aesthetically pleasing length in my eyes! I know I can at least have fairytale ends at TBL, so perhaps with healthier ends, I'll be able to have them thick. :)

Yeah, I've seen some of your pictures around. Your hair is beautiful and looks even better after your recent trim! I bet it feels better too. I'm sure you'll get the thickness down there soon! :)

As much as I've enjoyed chugging along trim free and enjoying unhindered length gains for the last two years, I know I'll have to start doing some trimming sooner or later, because I've had tangly, damaged ends before and wasn't a big fan. I could deal with fairytale ends, but the tangles drive me nuts :mad:

Ylva
January 4th, 2019, 08:31 PM
Yeah, I've seen some of your pictures around. Your hair is beautiful and looks even better after your recent trim! I bet it feels better too. I'm sure you'll get the thickness down there soon! :)

As much as I've enjoyed chugging along trim free and enjoying unhindered length gains for the last two years, I know I'll have to start doing some trimming sooner or later, because I've had tangly, damaged ends before and wasn't a big fan. I could deal with fairytale ends, but the tangles drive me nuts :mad:

Thank you so much! Yes, I definitely think I made the right decision cutting those ends off. Now I hope they won't even get that bad with microtrimming. I hope one day I can have ends like yours, full and shiny!

I can relate. Fairytale-ing you can always fix later, but if the ends are tangling and causing more harm than good, it's just going to hinder your growth altogether. That much I learned and I only went 9 months without trimming now. :)

Ah, all this was so much easier when I wasn't so "hair aware" and was just ignoring it all day every day!

almostghost
January 5th, 2019, 07:07 AM
Thank you so much! Yes, I definitely think I made the right decision cutting those ends off. Now I hope they won't even get that bad with microtrimming. I hope one day I can have ends like yours, full and shiny!

I can relate. Fairytale-ing you can always fix later, but if the ends are tangling and causing more harm than good, it's just going to hinder your growth altogether. That much I learned and I only went 9 months without trimming now. :)

Ah, all this was so much easier when I wasn't so "hair aware" and was just ignoring it all day every day!

:flower: I know your ends will look perfect after you microtrim for a while! I do a lot of S&D to avoid the split end tangles, but I plan to transition to microtrims whenever my ends start getting too thin for my liking.

Ha! I hear you. It's a little more work now, but it makes me so much happier :grin:

Ylva
January 5th, 2019, 09:02 PM
:flower: I know your ends will look perfect after you microtrim for a while! I do a lot of S&D to avoid the split end tangles, but I plan to transition to microtrims whenever my ends start getting too thin for my liking.

Ha! I hear you. It's a little more work now, but it makes me so much happier :grin:

I certainly have my hopes up! This year, I will be documenting my growth and hemline improvement better than I did last year. Heck, I didn't even take proper length shots before September or around there. :doh: Thank you for the encouragement! :flower:

If you can make do with S&D alone, that's great, do it for as long as you can for sure! For me, it wasn't really worth it, because my ends were so damaged (I think it's primarily the cuticle damage that is my worst enemy there) that they were breaking off regardless - split ends were the least of my worries there.

almostghost
January 6th, 2019, 07:36 AM
I certainly have my hopes up! This year, I will be documenting my growth and hemline improvement better than I did last year. Heck, I didn't even take proper length shots before September or around there. :doh: Thank you for the encouragement! :flower:

If you can make do with S&D alone, that's great, do it for as long as you can for sure! For me, it wasn't really worth it, because my ends were so damaged (I think it's primarily the cuticle damage that is my worst enemy there) that they were breaking off regardless - split ends were the least of my worries there.

Cool! I want to try to take more hair pictures, but I'm not very good at it :p Maybe after I move in the next month or two I can have my roommate help me out with photos on occasions when I actually want a decent one.

S&D has been working pretty well for me since I started my "big grow." I know it can't last forever though. My last two inches look ok but are starting to feel pretty damaged.

Ylva
January 6th, 2019, 11:16 AM
Cool! I want to try to take more hair pictures, but I'm not very good at it :p Maybe after I move in the next month or two I can have my roommate help me out with photos on occasions when I actually want a decent one.

S&D has been working pretty well for me since I started my "big grow." I know it can't last forever though. My last two inches look ok but are starting to feel pretty damaged.

I can't take good hair pics alone for the life of me either. Always have to ask for help. A full-body mirror would be so helpful there, but I'm sure all my pics would still end up weird, out of focus and somehow spazzed out. :lol:

How long have you been growing your hair out this time round?

almostghost
January 6th, 2019, 11:29 AM
I can't take good hair pics alone for the life of me either. Always have to ask for help. A full-body mirror would be so helpful there, but I'm sure all my pics would still end up weird, out of focus and somehow spazzed out. :lol:

How long have you been growing your hair out this time round?

There's a big mirror in my bathroom low enough to do a pic down to tailbone level or so, and I still have trouble taking hair shots with it. All the pros here make back-selfies look so easy! :lol:

I started from some sort of messy pixie thing around the beginning of 2017. Thinking back, I can't believe my ends aren't completely falling apart yet, because for 6 months or so before I decided to grow back out, I'd been trimming it myself with kitchen scissors. Oops. :bigeyes:

Ylva
January 6th, 2019, 11:38 AM
There's a big mirror in my bathroom low enough to do a pic down to tailbone level or so, and I still have trouble taking hair shots with it. All the pros here make back-selfies look so easy! :lol:

I started from some sort of messy pixie thing around the beginning of 2017. Thinking back, I can't believe my ends aren't completely falling apart yet, because for 6 months or so before I decided to grow back out, I'd been trimming it myself with kitchen scissors. Oops. :bigeyes:

So true! :D

Wow, your hair has grown a lot since then! Especially with the kitchen scissors considered!! :lol:

dagny
January 10th, 2019, 01:06 PM
I'm in! :)

My hair is currently a bit past waist, but it grows faster than average (2cm a month in the winter and I think I may grow faster in the summer). I am intending on doing regular trims to keep the hemline even and grow out some layers, so any "extra" length gained over average will be cut off.

Yiva -- your trim looks great, even though your fairy-tail ends also looked lovely. :-)

Ylva
January 10th, 2019, 03:22 PM
Welcome aboard, dagny! :)

Your hair is magnificent, so I can't wait to see what it'll look like at lengths like TBL or classic!

Thank you so much. :)

dagny
January 12th, 2019, 04:00 PM
Welcome aboard, dagny! :)

Your hair is magnificent, so I can't wait to see what it'll look like at lengths like TBL or classic!

Thank you so much. :)

Thank you for the kind words! :blossom:

I am curious to see how it will look, also. I got some more hair toys in the mail today (some Flexi's) and I can't wait to wear more protective styles now. Hopefully all of those times of wearing my hair down (and in the sun :steam ) won't find those parts of my hair to be more damaged over time.

Sparkles122
January 12th, 2019, 05:21 PM
I won't be able to reach classic, but I'll be getting close, around tailbone I think. How exciting! Good luck and happy growing to everyone else :D

How much does yours grow per month? I’m trying to estimate if I will make it to around tailbone also. I’m BSL length right now. I previously grew to hip length from almost BSL in a year and 6 months. I should probably measure where tailbone legnth is on me

almostghost
January 12th, 2019, 06:38 PM
How much does yours grow per month? I’m trying to estimate if I will make it to around tailbone also. I’m BSL length right now. I previously grew to hip length from almost BSL in a year and 6 months. I should probably measure where tailbone legnth is on me

Admittedly, I haven't done monthly measurements precise enough to be sure what my monthly growth rate is. I've been told my hair grows quickly by hairdressers before, but I don't want to assume that's actually true, heh. After all, they've also told me I have "a lot of hair!" when my circumference is actually quite average.

I've been basing my "how long will it take me to reach this length" on the average 6 inches per year growth rate. I did measure some milestones on my body recently, and I have about 11 more inches to reach tailbone. If I'm wrong and my growth rate is slower than average (or I decide I need to start trimming or my milestone measurements were off or something), well, then I'll fall short. My hair will still be longer than it's ever been so I'll be ok with it :p

Sparkles122
January 12th, 2019, 06:46 PM
Admittedly, I haven't done monthly measurements precise enough to be sure what my monthly growth rate is. I've been told my hair grows quickly by hairdressers before, but I don't want to assume that's actually true, heh. After all, they've also told me I have "a lot of hair!" when my circumference is actually quite average.

I've been basing my "how long will it take me to reach this length" on the average 6 inches per year growth rate. I did measure some milestones on my body recently, and I have about 11 more inches to reach tailbone. If I'm wrong and my growth rate is slower than average (or I decide I need to start trimming or my milestone measurements were off or something), well, then I'll fall short. My hair will still be longer than it's ever been so I'll be ok with it :p

Mine will be the longest its ever been also! I have about 12 inches to tailbone, i cant wait

Luna Starsetta
January 14th, 2019, 09:47 AM
Mine will be the longest its ever been also! I have about 12 inches to tailbone, i cant wait

I have to second that one, i'm a little past tailbone and i am also at the longest it has ever been.

Dark40
January 14th, 2019, 04:18 PM
I'm in! :)

My hair is currently a bit past waist, but it grows faster than average (2cm a month in the winter and I think I may grow faster in the summer). I am intending on doing regular trims to keep the hemline even and grow out some layers, so any "extra" length gained over average will be cut off.

Yiva -- your trim looks great, even though your fairy-tail ends also looked lovely. :-)

Hi, your hair is beautiful at that length! I gotta agree with Yiva. :) I can't wait to see it when it's at TBL or Classic too! I just love the slight waves and curls! :) My hair is about 2" below my waist too!

Ylva
January 14th, 2019, 07:23 PM
I find myself contemplating more bigger trims. We're not talking chop-size trims, but something like my monthly growth or a little more than that - basically so that my hair would either not gain any length or lose a little bit of it.

It's really tempting, because I want to thicken my hemline and get rid of more damage (it's addictive!), but I have to stay patient and keep the big picture in mind. Just steadily march towards BCL while microtrimming 0.5 cm every 5-6 weeks, and hopefully reach BCL sometime in the summer following this plan rather than getting off track.

Dark40
January 15th, 2019, 08:41 PM
Yiva, I think that's a good plan. Do microtrimming until all of the damage is gone, and you'll be fine. I think you'll make it to BCL during the summer. I know that I've got a few more inches to go before I make it to BCL. I've just made it to 2" below WL on last week after I relaxed and straightened my hair!!! Yay!!! :D So, I'm glad and excited that I've made this new milestone, and I'm not stalling anymore. Hope that I don't go through anymore stalls.

Ylva
January 16th, 2019, 04:47 PM
Yiva, I think that's a good plan. Do microtrimming until all of the damage is gone, and you'll be fine. I think you'll make it to BCL during the summer. I know that I've got a few more inches to go before I make it to BCL. I've just made it to 2" below WL on last week after I relaxed and straightened my hair!!! Yay!!! :D So, I'm glad and excited that I've made this new milestone, and I'm not stalling anymore. Hope that I don't go through anymore stalls.

That's cool about relaxing your hair. Have you thought more about lightening it or have you done it already? :) Would love to see pics of your current hair!

Dark40
January 16th, 2019, 05:08 PM
That's cool about relaxing your hair. Have you thought more about lightening it or have you done it already? :) Would love to see pics of your current hair!

Thanks. Yes, I'm still thinking about lightening my hair. No, I haven't done it yet. I think I'm going to make plans on doing it this coming weekend. You see, with the kind of relaxer I use you have to wait 2 weeks or 14 days before you can use any type of coloring or permanent coloring, and I also have to be careful in not to use a lightener with this relaxer. Because, it will cause breakage. I can use plain old hair color that will lighten my hair in just one step. Because, I've done it before. I can't wait to do it too, and take some recent photos and post them on here in my album so that you can see my current hair! I bet you would love to see my current hair!

MidnightMoon
January 16th, 2019, 06:09 PM
I would like to see your hair, Dark40. I think I have never seen it, in fact ;)

Luna Starsetta
January 17th, 2019, 05:04 PM
i have found a thread that suits me better so i'll be off all. happy growing and best of luck!

Dark40
January 17th, 2019, 05:09 PM
I would like to see your hair, Dark40. I think I have never seen it, in fact ;)

Yes, that's right. You have never seen my hair. I have a photo of my hair in my album on my profile :D

It's a photo of the way it looked a year ago. I don't have a recent photo of the way it looks right now. Because, it has grown some since within a year from now. :) And, I need to get my mom or someone to take a picture of the back of my head, and put it on the computer.

Dark40
January 17th, 2019, 05:10 PM
Ok Luna Starsetta! Thank you for the good luck! Happy growing to you too!

Ylva
January 17th, 2019, 05:28 PM
i have found a thread that suits me better so i'll be off all. happy growing and best of luck!

I saw that you're going for FTL by the end of this year. This is the classic by 2020 thread. Those are quite far apart, have you checked that the years are correct for you?

MidnightMoon
January 17th, 2019, 06:11 PM
Sadly, classic and FTL are not really far apart on me :lol:

Ylva
January 17th, 2019, 06:15 PM
Sadly, classic and FTL are not really far apart on me :lol:

Not on me either, but the end of 2019 and 2020 are a year apart. ;)

joylightbeauty
January 17th, 2019, 07:52 PM
I would like to join in. I think reaching Classic by then is doable for me if my hair grows fast like it usually does. I just reached hip length.

Dark40
January 17th, 2019, 07:56 PM
Congratulations joylightbeauty on reaching hip length! :) I'm looking forward to reaching hip length this coming spring if my hair continues to grow fast like it is now without and stalls.

joylightbeauty
January 17th, 2019, 08:04 PM
Congratulations joylightbeauty on reaching hip length! :) I'm looking forward to reaching hip length this coming spring if my hair continues to grow fast like it is now without and stalls.
Thanks so much! I think I’m in a slow growing phase now because of winter. I’m sure you will get there by spring.��

Dark40
January 17th, 2019, 08:12 PM
Thanks so much! I think I知 in a slow growing phase now because of winter. I知 sure you will get there by spring.��

You're welcome very much! Yeah, I was going through a slow-growth phase too! During the summer of last year. I was at MBL for a long while. Then, all of a sudden my hair now two inches below WL! I hope with my hair growing an inch a month I'm also sure I'll get there this spring too :)

I know that sounds like more than what most people grow but I think my hair naturally grows 2cm per month. Or, about an inch per month.

Ylva
January 17th, 2019, 08:14 PM
I would like to join in. I think reaching Classic by then is doable for me if my hair grows fast like it usually does. I just reached hip length.

I think I知 in a slow growing phase now because of winter.

Welcome to the thread! :)

I'm also experiencing slower growth at the moment. I think it's due to a mix of winter (the temperatures are very low here at the moment, brushing -20 Celsius degrees) and me going through a long flu. I'm not stressing about it, though. It'll return to normal in no time. :)

joylightbeauty
January 17th, 2019, 08:25 PM
You're welcome very much! Yeah, I was going through a slow-growth phase too! During the summer of last year. I was at MBL for a long while. Then, all of a sudden my hair now two inches below WL! I hope with my hair growing an inch a month I'm also sure I'll get there this spring too :)

I know that sounds like more than what most people grow but I think my hair naturally grows 2cm per month. Or, about an inch per month. that痴 great you致e reached below WL. yeah, I know what you mean. my usual growth rate at my healthiest is an inch to inch and a quarter per month. It is more than most people I know. Last little while has been a little less maybe because of stress, but I feel like it will pick back up again. :)

joylightbeauty
January 17th, 2019, 08:33 PM
Welcome to the thread! :)

I'm also experiencing slower growth at the moment. I think it's due to a mix of winter (the temperatures are very low here at the moment, brushing -20 Celsius degrees) and me going through a long flu. I'm not stressing about it, though. It'll return to normal in no time. :)

I hope you feel better soon! It is rough being sick while it’s so cold, too. Yeah I do think really cold weather stalls it out as well as bring sick/ stress. Yes, it will return to your normal rate. :D

Dark40
January 17th, 2019, 08:34 PM
that’s great you’ve reached below WL. yeah, I know what you mean. my usual growth rate at my healthiest is an inch to inch and a quarter per month. It is more than most people I know. Last little while has been a little less maybe because of stress, but I feel like it will pick back up again. :)

Thanks! Yeah, I also think when my hair is at it's healthiest my growth rate is an inch or a quarter of an inch per month too. Yes, it is more than most people. Because, they say the average growth rate is .5 per month. Yeah, when I get stressed out like I was last summer my hair growth rate slows down too but now that the stress is over it has picked back up again. :) And yes, yours will pick back up again I'm sure too. :)

joylightbeauty
January 17th, 2019, 08:51 PM
Thanks! Yeah, I also think when my hair is at it's healthiest my growth rate is an inch or a quarter of an inch per month too. Yes, it is more than most people. Because, they say the average growth rate is .5 per month. Yeah, when I get stressed out like I was last summer my hair growth rate slows down too but now that the stress is over it has picked back up again. :) And yes, yours will pick back up again I'm sure too. :) stress really does take a toll on us. Glad to hear your stressful time is over. And I didn’t even know the average growth rate until I joined this forum. I’ve learned so much already.

Dark40
January 17th, 2019, 09:02 PM
stress really does take a toll on us. Glad to hear your stressful time is over. And I didn’t even know the average growth rate until I joined this forum. I’ve learned so much already.

yes it does take a toll on us. Yes, I'm glad my stressful time is over too. You didn't know the average growth rate until you joined this forum? Wow! Yes, I've been a long time member since 2010, and I've learned a lot too. Yes, you can learn a lot of from us.

joylightbeauty
January 18th, 2019, 07:44 AM
yes it does take a toll on us. Yes, I'm glad my stressful time is over too. You didn't know the average growth rate until you joined this forum? Wow! Yes, I've been a long time member since 2010, and I've learned a lot too. Yes, you can learn a lot of from us.
I guess I just never thought about it. lol

Ylva
January 18th, 2019, 08:03 AM
I heard 0.5” after joining here, too. Around here (geographical area), people always say that the average growth rate is around 1 cm a month, but 0.5” = 1.27 cm. I wonder if there are regional differences (I’m sure there are to some degree, due to genetics and the environment), or if 0.5 and 1 are just convenient numbers and in reality they’re after the same thing?

joylightbeauty
January 18th, 2019, 08:13 AM
I heard 0.5” after joining here, too. Around here (geographical area), people always say that the average growth rate is around 1 cm a month, but 0.5” = 1.27 cm. I wonder if there are regional differences (I’m sure there are to some degree, due to genetics and the environment), or if 0.5 and 1 are just convenient numbers and in reality they’re after the same thing?

I'm glad I'm not the only one to learn this from here. :) Yes, I agree those numbers may be convenient and after the same thing.

MidnightMoon
January 18th, 2019, 08:45 AM
I heard 0.5 after joining here, too. Around here (geographical area), people always say that the average growth rate is around 1 cm a month, but 0.5 = 1.27 cm. I wonder if there are regional differences (I知 sure there are to some degree, due to genetics and the environment), or if 0.5 and 1 are just convenient numbers and in reality they池e after the same thing?

I think that's overthinking it, and might have more to do with the fact that we don't use inches in Europe, or anywhere in the world aside from the United States, on a daily basis, as far as I know. And it's much easier to say 1cm than 1.27, that sounds too exact and harder to remember.
I also think there's more important factors that would affect people's growth, even within the same area. We all have different genes even if we look similar, so I'd think our nutrition and health in general, hormones, stress levels, and the like play a more important role.

Ylva
January 18th, 2019, 11:52 AM
I think that's overthinking it, and might have more to do with the fact that we don't use inches in Europe, or anywhere in the world aside from the United States, on a daily basis, as far as I know. And it's much easier to say 1cm than 1.27, that sounds too exact and harder to remember.
I also think there's more important factors that would affect people's growth, even within the same area. We all have different genes even if we look similar, so I'd think our nutrition and health in general, hormones, stress levels, and the like play a more important role.

That's precisely what I was suggesting with the 'convenient numbers', so I don't see the point in repeating that. I took all of that in consideration when thinking about it. I'm a dabbler in genetics, so yes, I do know people aren't genetically identical even if they look similar. :lol: Either way, to me it's not overthinking, I like to ponder on stuff like this.

ETA: Nutritional differences are in some cases also tied to geographical regions. Even if it's not just about genetics, it can still vary regionally.

Luna Starsetta
January 18th, 2019, 12:43 PM
I saw that you're going for FTL by the end of this year. This is the classic by 2020 thread. Those are quite far apart, have you checked that the years are correct for you?

Yes I am sure I am closer to classic then I realized if I gain 0.5" per month about 4 more months I'll be at classic. By Christmas or NYE I should be at FTL. I also misread the year I could be at knee by 2020 if i gain 6 inches in a year like I have last year.

MidnightMoon
January 18th, 2019, 05:32 PM
That's precisely what I was suggesting with the 'convenient numbers', so I don't see the point in repeating that. I took all of that in consideration when thinking about it. I'm a dabbler in genetics, so yes, I do know people aren't genetically identical even if they look similar. :lol: Either way, to me it's not overthinking, I like to ponder on stuff like this.

ETA: Nutritional differences are in some cases also tied to geographical regions. Even if it's not just about genetics, it can still vary regionally.

Well it didn't seem clear, that's why I said it. It's my opinion on why that happens anyway...

Ylva
January 18th, 2019, 05:39 PM
Well it didn't seem clear, that's why I said it. It's my opinion on why that happens anyway...

Okay. :thumbsup:

On another note, I decided to change my "official" goal length to TBL instead of classic. I'm still going for classic, but TBL feels more obtainable since my hair was there just a while ago, and I think I will hang out there for a little bit to thicken my hemline, unless it's thick enough for my taste by then from microtrimming.

In all honesty, even if I was only ever able to reach TBL with a thick hemline, I would be pretty satisfied with that. I find that length unusually aesthetically pleasing.

Dark40
January 18th, 2019, 05:53 PM
Okay. :thumbsup:

On another note, I decided to change my "official" goal length to TBL instead of classic. I'm still going for classic, but TBL feels more obtainable since my hair was there just a while ago, and I think I will hang out there for a little bit to thicken my hemline, unless it's thick enough for my taste by then from microtrimming.

In all honesty, even if I was only ever able to reach TBL with a thick hemline, I would be pretty satisfied with that. I find that length unusually aesthetically pleasing.

Oh, ok cool! So, you've changed your mind about your goal length to TBL instead of classic? Yeah, I bet with your hair type and texture being fine it's hard to keep a thick hemline at classic length. I think your hair looks nice at TBL! Like what you've said, "I've had it at that length a while ago." You can maintain it there.

littlestarface
January 18th, 2019, 06:03 PM
Oh, ok cool! So, you've changed your mind about your goal length to TBL instead of classic? Yeah, I bet with your hair type and texture being fine it's hard to keep a thick hemline at classic length. I think your hair looks nice at TBL! Like what you've said, "I've had it at that length a while ago." You can maintain it there.

This is one weird reply.

Ylva
January 18th, 2019, 06:17 PM
Oh, ok cool! So, you've changed your mind about your goal length to TBL instead of classic? Yeah, I bet with your hair type and texture being fine it's hard to keep a thick hemline at classic length. I think your hair looks nice at TBL! Like what you've said, "I've had it at that length a while ago." You can maintain it there.

Err... No. It's just a temporary goal. I'm still going for classic after that. Think of it like... I'm parking my hair there for a while, unless I feel comfortable continuing towards classic straight away.

For the record, this is my hemline at BCL/TBL-ish (I'm leaning forward) about a year ago when I hadn't yet damaged my hair terribly.

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32990&d=1534022862

I think it's totally possible for me to have a thick hemline at classic once the damage is gone... even with my hair being fine. :rolleyes:

almostghost
January 18th, 2019, 06:47 PM
Err... No. It's just a temporary goal. I'm still going for classic after that. Think of it like... I'm parking my hair there for a while, unless I feel comfortable continuing towards classic straight away.

For the record, this is my hemline at BCL/TBL-ish (I'm leaning forward) about a year ago when I hadn't yet damaged my hair terribly.

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I think it's totally possible for me to have a thick hemline at classic once the damage is gone... even with my hair being fine. :rolleyes:

Gosh, sorry I keep intruding on this thread, knowing I won't be able to reach classic by the end of 2020, but I have to say that photo looks great! :D I can see why you're excited to get back to that and then maintain a while to get that nice thick hemline. Mine has never been that long, but my hair type seems to be quite similar to yours (only darker and I lost some of my wave to henna) so this gives me hope that my hair might look nice once I reach that length too. :)

AmaryllisRed
January 18th, 2019, 07:41 PM
Yeah I don't technically belong here either but I just had to pop in and say that's a stunning photo, Ylva! And I'm sure you can get back to that in time. :)

Ylva
January 18th, 2019, 08:12 PM
Gosh, sorry I keep intruding on this thread, knowing I won't be able to reach classic by the end of 2020, but I have to say that photo looks great! :D I can see why you're excited to get back to that and then maintain a while to get that nice thick hemline. Mine has never been that long, but my hair type seems to be quite similar to yours (only darker and I lost some of my wave to henna) so this gives me hope that my hair might look nice once I reach that length too. :)

You're welcome to intrude anytime! :) Thank you so much! Looking at that pic, I really regret damaging my hair, but oh well, what's done is done! The only way is forward, and I know I'll get back there someday. :) I bet your hair will look even nicer than mine, since you realise not to damage it, unlike me!


Yeah I don't technically belong here either but I just had to pop in and say that's a stunning photo, Ylva! And I'm sure you can get back to that in time. :)

Thank you so much! :flower:

femmefatale
January 18th, 2019, 11:59 PM
I'm joining
I'm at 27.5 cm now and classic would be 40-42
So 12 inches and 24 months
I think its doable

Ylva
January 19th, 2019, 12:30 PM
I'm joining
I'm at 27.5 cm now and classic would be 40-42
So 12 inches and 24 months
I think its doable

Yep, that sounds doable! Especially if you refrain from trimming too much, or if your monthly growth is a bit more than average. Welcome! :)

Dark40
January 19th, 2019, 06:12 PM
This is one weird reply.

What is so weird about that?

Dark40
January 19th, 2019, 06:17 PM
Err... No. It's just a temporary goal. I'm still going for classic after that. Think of it like... I'm parking my hair there for a while, unless I feel comfortable continuing towards classic straight away.

For the record, this is my hemline at BCL/TBL-ish (I'm leaning forward) about a year ago when I hadn't yet damaged my hair terribly.

https://forums.longhaircommunity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32990&d=1534022862

I think it's totally possible for me to have a thick hemline at classic once the damage is gone... even with my hair being fine. :rolleyes:

Ohhhh, ok I see. Yeah, for right now I'm parking my hair at HL/TBL-ish too. But hopefully sometime in 2020 I will have reached classic. Wiw, your hair is so pretty at that length! :)

Oh, I also believe you can still have a thick hemline with fine hair. :rolleyes: Because, I've seen it in real life on others.

Ylva
January 20th, 2019, 12:50 PM
Wiw, your hair is so pretty at that length! :)

Thank you!

Dark40
January 20th, 2019, 03:29 PM
Thank you!

You're welcome!

Ylva
January 23rd, 2019, 12:08 AM
Cross posting this pic a bit so sorry about that.

https://i.ibb.co/h7rw2pd/hiukset210119.jpg

I'm still undecided on whether to skip my microtrim in mid-February. If I do skip it, I'll go with these ends until at least late March. My ends feel decent as they are, and I'm retaining the thickness well so far after my New Year's chop of about 10 cm (but of course it hasn't been that long since then yet). I do want to get rid of the damaged ~half of my length, but at the same time, it would be fun to reach BCL again pretty soon.