opalflame
November 21st, 2017, 11:22 AM
Hello! I have been scouring the internet and cannot find any information regarding whats going on with my hair ;) so I want to post about my mysterious hair breakage and hope that someone can help with some advice or experience.
I started having breakage at my crown and hairline a few years ago, and tiny bits of hair would stick straight up. That never happened before. Then no matter what I did over the years I would still always have these little short one inch broken pieces, even when i wasnt dying and was growing out roots. Not *super* noticeable , but to me.
Then I decided to give up dye and grow it out, starting a Long Hair Journey ,which i didnt realize would be so difficult and frought with pitfalls!
So...
I had finally grown out my hair, virgin! for over a year and was very happy with how healthy it was (even though the color is not great on me and when its that healthy it feels a bit limp and textureless) . Given that, my hair still felt weak, and there were alot of tiny broken hairs sticking straight up. But I had bleached ends that did not look good at all and were strawlike and tangly. I didnt want to dye it anymore, so I did alot of research and decided to try Aveda Clove Conditioner to even out the color - it looks better darker anyway.
I had heard from someone to leave it in dry hair for half an hour and it acts like a color mask. So i did that. When I washed it out, my hair felt so silky and when dried it was shiny and a gorgeous even medium brown color. I loved it! However upon closer inspection it looked like there was alottt of breakage! So I thought, well its probably the damaged blond parts that broke and thats partly why it feels healthier now? But it really looked like there were parts where it had broken, further up the shaft, where my hair was virgin. And even though the hair felt healthy, it felt much much thinner...especially toward the ends but also mid shaft. Then as I grew it out it got more and more straggly and jellyfish like. It was so thin and terrible that I went to a salon. By this time the Color deposit had worn off and I was back to weird ombre. The hairdresser had to cut probably 6 -7inches of hair, total, so basically all of the hair I had grown over that year, to make it look thick and healthy. She gave me a couple highlights and toned it and it looked great.
But after a trip to California, my hair didnt look good - whether it was the hard water, pool water, sun, etc... i saw in pictures that my whole head looked brassy and reddish and terrible! I was upset , wondering if it was the toner my new stylist had used. In a fit of crazyness, I bleached my whole head, myself, so I could put a light ashy toner on it. I know that was so dumb to do and I immediately regretted it. The color was what I wanted but My hair was totally fried! wasnt worth it...:)) So then I remembered this great product I used to use called Surya Henna, which had saved my hairs life in the past. I used the Henna cream in a rich brown color and my hair instantly became silky and beautiful again. Whew!!! However the color from this product fades so fast, which is ok because its not damaging and you can use it often. However I didnt want to use it all the time, so I started using Aveda Clove again, and since the color was a little ashy and the conditioner is so expensive, I went to Sally's Beauty and they recommended Argan Oil One n Only color depositing conditioners, and also one by Ion. I started using them both and they were great, made my color richer and prettier and healthier looking (faded brunette color over bleached hair can be kind of rough looking as you may know).
However I started to notice that after a few shampoos my hair would start going back to tangly gross damaged state- at that point using the Henna Cream would salvage it and make it nice again. But another thing I started noticing is it seemed like im having so much hair fall and breakage, at first i thought maybe its because my hair is so much darker so it looks like more hair is coming out in the shower... but I dont know , its starting to get that 'thin' scraggly look that it had before when I was using the Clove conditioner. Now at this point I could blame the breakage on the fact that its blonde and damaged underneath (but I have had blonde damaged hair that did not shed this much when properly cared for!at least not that I recall...). Or that my hair was kind of weak to begin with (which makes no sense because i take lots of vitamins, fish oil, and am a little bit of a health nut). But my fear is that the Color Depositing Conditioners I am using, along with possibly the Aveda Clove Shampoo,( which I also bought hoping it would add extra staying power to the color,), are causing my hair to break *alot* and thin out.Im experiencing alot of hair fall in the shower. I want to know if its these so that I can stop using them, but its hard to know for sure what it is because the damage is already done. Im trying not to be too disappointed but I thought my LH journey was going so well, and now its almost two years and Im back where I started with a damaged lob.... (;.;):violin:
I cant find any info about these conditioners and shampoo other than most people love them, and some people say that the Shampoo is drying.
Does anyone have any experience similar to mine, or any advice? Thank you soooo much and good luck everyone, with your fabulous hair!:love:
I started having breakage at my crown and hairline a few years ago, and tiny bits of hair would stick straight up. That never happened before. Then no matter what I did over the years I would still always have these little short one inch broken pieces, even when i wasnt dying and was growing out roots. Not *super* noticeable , but to me.
Then I decided to give up dye and grow it out, starting a Long Hair Journey ,which i didnt realize would be so difficult and frought with pitfalls!
So...
I had finally grown out my hair, virgin! for over a year and was very happy with how healthy it was (even though the color is not great on me and when its that healthy it feels a bit limp and textureless) . Given that, my hair still felt weak, and there were alot of tiny broken hairs sticking straight up. But I had bleached ends that did not look good at all and were strawlike and tangly. I didnt want to dye it anymore, so I did alot of research and decided to try Aveda Clove Conditioner to even out the color - it looks better darker anyway.
I had heard from someone to leave it in dry hair for half an hour and it acts like a color mask. So i did that. When I washed it out, my hair felt so silky and when dried it was shiny and a gorgeous even medium brown color. I loved it! However upon closer inspection it looked like there was alottt of breakage! So I thought, well its probably the damaged blond parts that broke and thats partly why it feels healthier now? But it really looked like there were parts where it had broken, further up the shaft, where my hair was virgin. And even though the hair felt healthy, it felt much much thinner...especially toward the ends but also mid shaft. Then as I grew it out it got more and more straggly and jellyfish like. It was so thin and terrible that I went to a salon. By this time the Color deposit had worn off and I was back to weird ombre. The hairdresser had to cut probably 6 -7inches of hair, total, so basically all of the hair I had grown over that year, to make it look thick and healthy. She gave me a couple highlights and toned it and it looked great.
But after a trip to California, my hair didnt look good - whether it was the hard water, pool water, sun, etc... i saw in pictures that my whole head looked brassy and reddish and terrible! I was upset , wondering if it was the toner my new stylist had used. In a fit of crazyness, I bleached my whole head, myself, so I could put a light ashy toner on it. I know that was so dumb to do and I immediately regretted it. The color was what I wanted but My hair was totally fried! wasnt worth it...:)) So then I remembered this great product I used to use called Surya Henna, which had saved my hairs life in the past. I used the Henna cream in a rich brown color and my hair instantly became silky and beautiful again. Whew!!! However the color from this product fades so fast, which is ok because its not damaging and you can use it often. However I didnt want to use it all the time, so I started using Aveda Clove again, and since the color was a little ashy and the conditioner is so expensive, I went to Sally's Beauty and they recommended Argan Oil One n Only color depositing conditioners, and also one by Ion. I started using them both and they were great, made my color richer and prettier and healthier looking (faded brunette color over bleached hair can be kind of rough looking as you may know).
However I started to notice that after a few shampoos my hair would start going back to tangly gross damaged state- at that point using the Henna Cream would salvage it and make it nice again. But another thing I started noticing is it seemed like im having so much hair fall and breakage, at first i thought maybe its because my hair is so much darker so it looks like more hair is coming out in the shower... but I dont know , its starting to get that 'thin' scraggly look that it had before when I was using the Clove conditioner. Now at this point I could blame the breakage on the fact that its blonde and damaged underneath (but I have had blonde damaged hair that did not shed this much when properly cared for!at least not that I recall...). Or that my hair was kind of weak to begin with (which makes no sense because i take lots of vitamins, fish oil, and am a little bit of a health nut). But my fear is that the Color Depositing Conditioners I am using, along with possibly the Aveda Clove Shampoo,( which I also bought hoping it would add extra staying power to the color,), are causing my hair to break *alot* and thin out.Im experiencing alot of hair fall in the shower. I want to know if its these so that I can stop using them, but its hard to know for sure what it is because the damage is already done. Im trying not to be too disappointed but I thought my LH journey was going so well, and now its almost two years and Im back where I started with a damaged lob.... (;.;):violin:
I cant find any info about these conditioners and shampoo other than most people love them, and some people say that the Shampoo is drying.
Does anyone have any experience similar to mine, or any advice? Thank you soooo much and good luck everyone, with your fabulous hair!:love: