Help with hair/questions (noob dude growing out hair)(photos)

[everest]

firstly, thank you for having the patience and taking the time to read all of this

hey, i have an undercut with long hair that i have been growing out for the past 2 years
for the past few months it has been unbearable to style, i just don't know what is wrong with it (i caught it 2-3 times in the back of the hair dryer, but other than that, i've taken good care of it)(only once did some hairs break/rip)
i've been using a conditioner since forever, so that can be ruled out.

the problem is that when i dry it (with a hairdryer almost always, i keep it far away to avoid damaging it), it dries into a "bush" at the front, meaning that the hair is really frizzy/curly instead of staying together in waves like on the rest of the head; and it just stays frizzy mostly; when i put it in a pony tail, i have hairs going all over the place and it is making me go nuts.
Whenever i go to the hairstylist for the monthly side cut, he straightens it with a brush and the hairdryer and it looks freakin amazing but i have no idea how to do it and/or how to make that permanent

So my questions are(i will post photos below):
-What the hell is wrong with my hair? Is it damaged/burned? i just can't believe that this could be natural and that is just the way my hair is
-What can i do to make it look good? I wanted to try a "hair botox" or whatever that is called, i read that it rejuvenates the hair and that it will look better and straighter afterwards(is it worth it?)
-What type of hair do i have? Seems like my hair is a mess and i just want to know what kind it is, once and for all...the frizz is curly(not normal curly. a weird straight, than zig zagged, then curly, then wavey, all in the same hair straw) while parts of my head grow straight hair and others wavy hair. Which one is it?
-What other problems do you notice with my hair? What else am i supposed to do to fix it and take good care of

Also, i've always been a "no ****s given" guy regarding hair, meaning that i just didn't care what other people thought about it; but lately everyone has been hitting my nerves strings telling me to go cut it short already. I didn't care at first but it has become like the chinese water drop. Does it look good ? wanted my hair to look like that dude Brock Ohurn's mane but i think i am far from that...

hair after bath and normal blow drying. look at how frizzy it is at parts, especially at the front and at the tips; it is like every hair is on its own:
https://postimg.org/image/xcir01uir/

the frizzy hair at the front:
https://postimg.org/image/ahkgb4tdv/

all hair on one side:
https://postimg.org/image/ey87w2i83/
https://postimg.org/image/yu47blz9f/
https://postimg.org/image/u9i0wofk3/

all hair flipped on the other side:
https://postimg.org/image/m6julcuyr/

hair in pony tail and all the other retarded hairs sticking out:
https://postimg.org/image/79bdkchqb/

if i stay and pull out the retarded hairs to see where they come from, most if not all are from the very front of the head:
https://postimg.org/image/6mcgutkub/
https://postimg.org/image/w6er19683/
https://postimg.org/image/mzwgdz0zn/

all hair "slick back":
https://postimg.org/image/utx1zd8sj/
https://postimg.org/image/ohmi39v43/ (very frizzy)

pics of my hair 6 months ago after having it taken care of by my hairstylist
https://postimg.org/image/lq38cnwlf/
https://postimg.org/image/ixa0smw8z/

my almost long hair 8 years ago (with sides growing out as well where the hair seems more wavy than the rest):
https://postimg.org/image/gtzlkywg3/

[everest]

forgot to put this additional info in: last end of summer there was a bit of frizz as well after having it washed, but the sebum/oil from the scalp would "treat" the hair fast within a day and straighten it/make it look good and shiny. Even when getting out of the pool and just drying it a bit with the towel then letting it dry by itself, it would dry very nicely.
After about mid autumn i also had very dry scalp and a LOT of dandruff resulted from it

[lapushka]

Those "retarded" (I wouldn't use that word) hairs are wispies, and we all get them. You can slick them back with a little gel, edge tamer, putty, or hairspray, but that's about all you can do.

You might be more wavy than you think. Look into the "curly girl" method some. Plenty of info to be found if you Google the method. A few of the "musts" like LOC/LCO are in my signature.

A blow dryer isn't necessarily bad, as long as you use it on cool to warm. The distance from the hair isn't the thing, it's the temperature that does it.

Welcome! :D

[everest]

damn, i really hoped something could've been done..at least to make them straight (wouldn't have bothered me that much). but having them in that weird curly way makes my hair look like a mess. Odd thing is that i don't remember having them last summer and before that. Could it be from breakage ? and instead of going and straightening all the way into the pony tail, being shorter just makes them pop out like that? could the effect be minor if i manage to grow it out more ?

i really have no idea how wavy i am; i tried looking at that test with 2a/2b/2c/etc but i just can't seem to find a category i fit in..i just used that dude brock ohurn as a point of reference. i take it i have a much more different hair than him?

thanks, i will be looking into that; i use the medium setting on temperature (out of 3 heat levels)

[MoonRabbit]

I found using a wide tooth comb, or even better my fingers to detangle really helps keeps the wispies tamed. You might have had a little shed without realizing and now all the new growth is starting to pop up. Try to be very gentle when you comb your hair so you don't break up the waves and cause frizz. Also using a t shirt instead of a towel to dry can cut down on the frizz. My hair gets really frizzy at the front too and I believe this is due to being the hair I touch the most, from pushing it behind my ears, being a side sleeper and my hair tends to fall out of the braid around the front while I sleep causing it to rub on stuff and makes it drier than the rest of my hair.

[spidermom]

It is common to have all different types of hair on your head. I have everything from very coarse and straight to fine and kinky-curly. Making this all flow together into any sort of a style is challenging indeed! Lately I have a cut that makes the most of my "messy" texture. After washing and conditioning, I bend forward and massage/finger-comb some curl creme through my hair, then straighten up and scrunch it until I'm bored with it. Sometimes the right cut makes all the difference. I think it's best to find a style to suit the hair you have rather than trying to make your hair suit the cut that you admire on someone else.

[Sarahlabyrinth]

It is common to have all different types of hair on your head. I have everything from very coarse and straight to fine and kinky-curly. Making this all flow together into any sort of a style is challenging indeed! Lately I have a cut that makes the most of my "messy" texture. After washing and conditioning, I bend forward and massage/finger-comb some curl creme through my hair, then straighten up and scrunch it until I'm bored with it. Sometimes the right cut makes all the difference. I think it's best to find a style to suit the hair you have rather than trying to make your hair suit the cut that you admire on someone else.

Wise advice, spidermom :)

[lizardspots]

Honestly, your wispies (short sticking out hairs) aren't that bad. I probably have more wispies than you, though they don't bother me like yours do. I actually like the slightly messy carefree look. I would recommend using a bit of styling product (gel, spray, mousse) to smooth them down. I don't think using heat straightening is a good idea, it will just make your hair ends dry and frizzier afterwards. Another possibility is that your hair is wavier than you think, and those frizzy bits are actually waves that need a little more TLC.

[bjt]

Hi there!
You may try not blow drying it. I know you said you keep the dryer far away from your head, but I know for my hair, blow drying it really changes the texture of it and it tends to make more "fly away" kinda hair. If you're a "no s***ts given" kinda guy, then you could try my routine: wash it at night, allowing at least a couple hours before bed to air dry. Do not comb or brush it at night. In the morning it will mostly be dry or totally dry, you can gently brush it then. and then don't touch it again. You'll see better this way if your hair is more naturally wavy than you think. It also will allow those whispies to start growing. You may have had some previous damage that is trying to grow out.

Also, how often do you wash it? you could try washing it less, conditioning it more and perhaps using a little bit of oil on it. Oil it when its damp, it'll help keep the moisture in and control the whispies at the same time.

Lastly, please do reconsider using the "R" word so casually. It can be hurtful to so many folks, and there are other ways of describing those little irritating whispies without unintentionally being hurtful. Thanks (in advance) for considering that.

[everest]

thank you for the answers;
i wash it once every 3 days at most; i am a gym freak and i have intense workouts each day, everyday, so it is hard to maintain it.
i use a LOT of conditioner; maybe i should change the conditioner and the shampoo i am using
i have a thick circular brush that i use; just bought it a few days ago
air drying used to be ok 6 months ago(it would dry almost straight and the sebum would treat the hari really fast), but now if i leave it on its own it is going to make it more wavy(which i don't want; i want it with loose waves, not tight ones) and more frizzy at the front (most of the frizz is coming from the small widow's peak at the front). the only reason i use a hair dryer now is because i want to keep it as tame as possible
found a moroccanoil anti freeze spray, is that good ?
i honestly have no idea what style suits me (short hair looks very good on me, but i hate it); and now it has started to look meh(except when the hairstylist does it for me). Can this be just a phase again and later on it will get better ?
i am still considering that botox idea; maybe it will rejuvenate the frizzy hair and make it look decent

[Obsidian]

It will get better, right now you are at the growth stage where hair just doesn't behave. If it was my hair, I would go get the wispy ends in front trimmed so they were closer in length to the back. Growing out different lengths can make managing more difficult.

I'd also ditch the blow drier, all its doing is damaging your hair. Besides, your blown dried hair is too straight if you are going for brock hair, he has much wavier hair and lots of wispies.

I spent years fighting with my waves/curls and was never happy with my hair. I finally made peace with my hair and am a lot happier with it.

what kind of shampoo and conditioner are you using? If you want us to determine your hair type, you need to wash it, comb it in the shower dripping wet and then don't touch it. Once dry , take pics from the back and sides so we can see any waves/curls.

I would recommend a tangle teezer brush, they are great and more gentle then other brushes.

[Anje]

I always get those frizzy wispy things. Growing it long doesn't stop them, because they're baby hairs that have just started growing and you'll always have those coming in to replace the sheds.

A little product can smooth them down. If your hair is about the texture mine is, and it looks pretty comparable, you don't want anything too heavy, but a little aloe gel coating your fingers and smoothed over the hair can go a long way. More heavy-duty treatments include hair gel, all those various styling pastes and putties and pomades, and oils. A little hair oil can help, but it's tricky to apply enough to control frizz without making the hair clump, if you can even achieve it. (Folks with wavier hair or curly hair love those nicely formed clumps. Those of us with mostly straight hair, not so much.)

Heat definitely will smooth it, and I'm pretty sure the chemical treatment the hairdresser is mentioning will too. However, these things will cause lasting damage to your hair, eventually including increased breakage and more of those silly frizzy bits. I personally would advise against them.

Beyond that, make sure you're handling the hair gently, especially at the ends. No powering through tangles -- stop and pick the ball of hair that your comb is snagging on apart with your fingers instead. The damage that sort of thing causes adds up quickly and it kinks the ends of the hair, which results in more tangles and eventually breakage.

[spidermom]

I suspect those frizzy hairs either want to curl or be wavy, and you're trying to force them to be something they're not. Instead of clumping into curls and/or waves, the pattern gets broken up, then it's every hair for itself flying off in a different direction.

I second the hair-typing suggestion. Wash and condition it, then let it dry without touching it. Let us see what it does, then we can make better suggestions about how you can make the most of it.

[Wreckinbelle]

What I've found is that your really need to experiment with different products (Such a pain, but worth it!). I've had long hair for years and was struggling with "wireyness" and I just recently switched to a silicone free condition and it works WONDERS! I had also been using argan oil for the dryness thinking it was helping, then one day thought "I wonder if that oil is actually the problem?" turns out it was, which I discovered almost immediately when I switched to coconut oil.
I think you have lovely hair and I'm really diggin' the cut! Also, there's an UNDERCUT thread here...I'll try to link it.

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=142905.

Welcome and happy growing :-D

[everest]

i will be washing my hair tonight and will be posting pics then with it wet as well as dried up afterwards

i think i have a brush around that resembles a tangle free one.

yeah, i agree, i did try some "heavy" stuff like gel and it wasn't that great. I am guilty of not having patience to deal with tangled hair; i am not ripping it but i am not extremely delicate either
what i read about that botox is that it helps the hair and has a very low amount of chemicals/none. The only obvious thing that could affect the hair is that it is applied with heat

right now i am using Zeal sulfate free shampoo(anti dandruff, bought it when i had that problem with dry scalp) and REhydrate paraben free smoothing conditioner. RIght before these, when my hair was acting nice, i was using a Bema Bio hair shampoo as well as the Bema Bio conditioner. I think the ones i am using now aren't that great, i will try going back to the old ones or trying some new products.

wrekin, the style you have in your pic is also one that i am trying to attain; really fancied that hairstyle when i saw Travis Fimmel as Ragnar Lothbrok in Vikings. What i need is also some beard that won't grow, or at least it is a not so thick/late beard. I'll be checking that thread as well

thank you all again for helping out, wasn't expecting so many replies :)

in about 10-12 hours i will be posting the pics

[everest]

it has just naturally dried up;
honestly, i absolutely HATE the way it looks right now; so much that all i think about is doing that botox to make it look more straight or just straight up cutting it. Last summer i would get times when it would dry similar to this(not as extreme) but the sebum would come quick and tame it/make it look almost like i wanted.

pics(excuse the weird crop on some, obviously i forgot to put on a shirt):

before the shower(the sebum took a bit of care):
https://postimg.org/image/9zolwamun/
https://postimg.org/image/6hclzwlyn/
https://postimg.org/image/m43vd9zqn/

after shower damp(after combing/brushing it):
https://postimg.org/image/7yy2bgqpb/
https://postimg.org/image/uox74g9wv/
https://postimg.org/image/93s4gud67/
https://postimg.org/image/dia93jjfz/
https://postimg.org/image/6gcbhcfu7/
https://postimg.org/image/jlrtng9pr/

after it dried up(when the pattern differs a bit it means i just switched all the hair to the other side):
https://postimg.org/image/4qy6c5ttb/
https://postimg.org/image/yqeaa427j/
https://postimg.org/image/dqy6im0j3/
https://postimg.org/image/a8m6m7zn3/
https://postimg.org/image/m1ol46lgv/
https://postimg.org/image/s3w7uo9wv/
https://postimg.org/image/ohqei13jj/

after using a brush on it:
https://postimg.org/image/jbf96zorz/
https://postimg.org/image/vekkujzu7/
https://postimg.org/image/4i0lm8h0v/
https://postimg.org/image/7enmmimun/
https://postimg.org/image/qigy2uzov/
https://postimg.org/image/6dsfuic6n/ in a pony tail
https://postimg.org/image/yqivnurlb/ all hair on brought to the front

[everest]

i will be taking some pics tomorrow in the afternoon as well to see if it tames a bit...meanwhile, i need to go and sob in the corner of the room because i won't have the hair of brock, hah
looking at these pics, i still don't know what type of hair it is, but i really hope it is not towards a curly type; i dread that :\

[everest]

pic as of right now; about 40mins-1 hour since it has dried up
it looks as if it has settled a bit; still looks atrocious imo
https://postimg.org/image/c74qw5g8v/

[everest]

i apologise for multiple posts, seems i don't have an edit button yet; this will be my last post for the day
found a few more pics from when my hair last managed to look nice (this was december last year and i think it didn't last much longer)
https://postimg.org/image/r2i8o0lt7/
https://postimg.org/image/yjrg38bcb/
another pic from winter (either january/feb) after hairstyilist did the cut:
https://postimg.org/image/wcn7fb623/

[Alex Lou]

it has just naturally dried up;


after it dried up(when the pattern differs a bit it means i just switched all the hair to the other side):
https://postimg.org/image/4qy6c5ttb/
Looks like your hair is curly! It looks amazing in this photo, btw.

As for people telling you to cut.. People are very critical of men with long hair. It probably has nothing to do with whether your hair looks good or bad, but rather the way in which you are defying gender norms.

You should give the "curly girl" method a go which will further define your curls to reduce frizz. If you really want to have the straight look, you will either need to train to blow dry it straight (I can't do it either and my hair ends up frizzy when I try) or start ironing it, both of which are damaging and will lead to splits, breakage, and may even prevent you from growing your hair long.

I don't think my hair is as curly as yours, but I also have lots of frizz in the front and I tame it to being wavy by using conditioner with silicone, a leave-in serum with silicone, and then brushing it or finger combing smooth while it air dries.

[Aredhel]

I'm a straight-haired gal so I'm not experienced in curly hair maintenance unfortunately, but I just wanted to say that your natural curls are beautiful and I would really recommend trying to work with them instead of against them to help them reach their fullest potential.:) The dryness and frizziness are both rather simple issues to solve once you figure out a viable routine for yourself with products that agree with your hair.

Regarding Brock O'Hurn as your inspo - he doesn't have straight hair either, you know... he's definitely got curls as well. Maybe a little less curly than your hair, but barely.:)

[everest]

brock has thicker hair anyway, don't even know what i was thinking wanting to get it like him :\
i've hated curly hair with a passion since i was little (only on me, obviously). I don't think i'll accept it soon/ever; been trying to get it as straight as possible since forever. Every inspiration that i've ever had had either straight or loose/wavy hair
ironing is too damaging, i won't be doing that; it is either that botox or the agony with the blowdryer
so going by some definitions i have found on this site, my hair is 2b?
thanks again for the input

just woke up a few mins ago
pics from last night before bed:
https://postimg.org/image/8w7k1r03d/
https://postimg.org/image/j7jwuersp/
https://postimg.org/image/f3iy1wvuh/ (i do like a bit how it looks here, it is more loose; except for the frizz and lack of shine)
https://postimg.org/image/898nc837d/
https://postimg.org/image/3pweqplbt/

pics from this morning:
https://postimg.org/image/rsd8ll1yx/
https://postimg.org/image/j2g5kqkhl/
https://postimg.org/image/hm4n2lhkp/
https://postimg.org/image/yqmeon6ex/ (same here as well)
https://postimg.org/image/ll1ulf67t/
https://postimg.org/image/xbfs2sz09/

[everest]

i swear my hair is weird
this pic as of right now; i haven't done anything to it and it is getting straighter and straighter
i don't get it, what is happening? how can it change "looks" so quickly? it looks even straighter than when i try to get it straight with a hair dryer
https://postimg.org/image/poso1a4af/

[everest]

it is like i am on an emotional carousel.. oh no, it is curly! wait, it is getting straighter! how is it so straight and just slightly wavy, almost like i want it?! damn it, that frizz! *has to wash it* here we go again... i am dumbfounded :))

[Sarahlabyrinth]

Wavy hair can have wavier moods, and straighter moods, depending on length, how long since it was washed, etc. I'm a 2b like you, and my hair was much wavier when it was at your length, (look at my photo on my profile page to see) whereas if you look at the way it is now, in my signature picture, it's not far off being straight, the weight of the length has pulled out much of the waviness. I used to hate the waviness like the plague, but after being on the LHC for a while, have come to appreciate it just the way it is. You know, there are likely many people who would LOVE to have your wavy hair... If you can learn to like it in all its moods, you will be able to enjoy your hair so much more, rather than trying to force it to do something it doesn't want to do. :)

Anyway, welcome here!

[everest]

i know there are a lot who would like my waves; even my mom who doesn't like long hair on me tells me she is jealous of my hair by itself (i have received many compliments on the color/style of my hair alone and many remarks that i am a guy and i should cut it, coming from jealousy and others). the hair itself i don't mind that much, but i find that it doesn't represent me and doesn't come close to my inspirations that i think would represent my style. Obviously it would be great to learn to enjoy my hair, but being so different all the time, one day more towards curly, one day better towards the wavy that i want, makes it a lot harder. There is that saying that everyone wants what they don't have, i guess it applies well here

i want to get the length of at least half more of how it is now; hopefully it will only look better as time goes by

thanks :)

[lapushka]

The answer is simple, either you'll need to come to terms with your hair (curly girl method as it's been said multiple times already), or you'll need to do damaging (aka non long hair growing) things to it.

Botox BTW is just a different name for keratin straightening, if I'm not mistaken. Damaging!

[Obsidian]

Its too bad you can't come to terms with your curls, they are really nice. I much prefer your natural texture to the straight styles you've shown. My hair is a curlier then yours and the longer it gets, the straighter it gets. If I comb is straight and let it air dry, it pulls most of the curls out without making it fluffy. If I blow dry or brush it when dry, it fluffs up quite a lot.
I really think that most of your frizz is from fighting your curls. If you truly want straight hair then it seems chemical straightening is your best bet. Be warned though, fine hair like yours could get very damaged from the chemicals so be prepared for that.

I think Brock is a fine inspiration for you, the man has the best hair ever in my opinion. Maybe it would help if you start looking at curlier hair for inspiration instead of straight, see the potential you were born with.

[everest]

From what i recall from my hairstylist and research is that the difference between keratin and botox implies the lack of harsh chemicals and the pressence of proteins and other stuff that are good, making it beneficial and recommended for the ones who have frizz/dry and damaged hair. The only thing that makes me fear it a bit is that it is sealed by ironing, which is damaging as you say (though you will have heat protection serums and others in the hair before in the treatment); also it lasts only up to 4 months, i have no idea if the hair then will go back to how it was or better/worse. One of the things that has stopped me from getting it is the fear for damage afterwards and the lack of money as it is quite costly here.
I have the curly method pinned and saved now (thanks A LOT for that), a good amount of advice and vocabulary there that i needed (i am not a native speaker as well)

that's the thing, i don't want pin straight hair; i just want it a tad straighter, as in loose wavy (Brock is the best example i can give). I like the straight look my hairstylist gives me because it removes the frizz and it makes it so smooth and shiny and also lets my dark blonde come out, whereas normally i'd be mistaken for brown hair.

I did search a lot for some that had a resembling hair to mine, like Pete Wicks, Maximiliano Patane, Mario Blanco, Jason Momoa and Orlando Bloom. Got to the conclusion that even if their styles are interesting and the hair fits them, what comes closest to my enthusiasm and self-confidence(that derives from hairstyles) is from Brock, which is really frustrating indeed

[Ophidian]

As other wavies have mentioned, as your hair grows it is likely to appear a bit straighter with the weight. Also, there are methods for drying your hair such as wrapping which are non-permanent and not damaging at all but would allow you to straighten a bit without flat ironing (basically you wrap your hair around your head and secure it with something--if you Google it you'll see examples).

I did a little reading on the "Botox." I tend to be wary of things promising miracles like this. I think your texture is such that you can find ways to either encourage waves (e.g. Curly Girl) or straighten it out a bit (e.g. Wrapping) without going this route, simply by learning new ways to handle and style your hair. There is always a learning curve with new lengths but you've got a great start!

[everest]

Don't think wrapping will work with my undercut, there isn't much hair to wrap around so that i can make it stick, i just have the hair on the top of my head.

Yeah, i was quite doubtful at first reading about it and thinking this is just like another vibrating belt for overweight people to get abs. Then i talked with my hairstylist who has been cutting my hair for the last 7 years and he recommended it as well if i wanted a more straight hair (saying that it won't damage the hair either). Obviously i won't accept the idea that it is 100% safe until there is an in depth medical study about it (which i haven't found), but from the looks of it it seems like the most harmless treatment between all of the straightening ones. In any case, i have other priorities now, and botox is at the bottom of the list.

[Alex Lou]

What conditioner are you using? What other products?

Maybe just get some heavy conditioner and leave-in serum that contains silicone and see how your hair reacts. These products will smooth somewhat.

[yahirwaO.o]

Hello friend, im also a guy with fairly longish hair (longer in the past)

Your hair looks awesome but if you feel completly annoyed by it then simply go for those options your hairstylist is giving you.

Personally I'll give a try to braid-bun waves and some product to archive even yet sleek waviness all over your strands.

You have the best wise and wavy expert´s answers in this site already.

My hair is on the straighter side yet I have some weird wannabe waves and cowlicks in the front part of my hair and sometimes a simple one pass flat iron styling helps me feel much better.

[everest]

I use Zeal sulfate free shampoo(anti dandruff, bought it when i had that problem with dry scalp) and REhydrate paraben free smoothing conditioner. They are both about to be empty in a few washes and i need to buy new ones. Was thinking about buying Moroccanoil(does it contain silicones ?). I can't find some of the products in the curly method where i live

Thank you:)
I will be braiding it soon too, wanted to try the Ragnar Lothbrok look and see if i can pull it off. Don't know how it will look afterwards when i let it loose
I'll be postponing the treatments for now and try to work with the natural hair

[lapushka]

I use Zeal sulfate free shampoo(anti dandruff, bought it when i had that problem with dry scalp) and REhydrate paraben free smoothing conditioner. They are both about to be empty in a few washes and i need to buy new ones. Was thinking about buying Moroccanoil(does it contain silicones ?). I can't find some of the products in the curly method where i live

Thank you:)
I will be braiding it soon too, wanted to try the Ragnar Lothbrok look and see if i can pull it off. Don't know how it will look afterwards when i let it loose
I'll be postponing the treatments for now and try to work with the natural hair

Where do you live? It will be easier for us to recommend you products if we know that. Moroccanoil is an expensive brand, and drugstore products are good enough to use, sometimes even better. It's not worth it to spend the money, is what I'm saying.

[everest]

I live in Bucharest, Romania; i have my mom that has a friend working at a salon that can give her brands like Moroccanoil for a cheaper price; they are usually expensive indeed

[lapushka]

I live in Bucharest, Romania; i have my mom that has a friend working at a salon that can give her brands like Moroccanoil for a cheaper price; they are usually expensive indeed

Do you have any Pantene or Herbal Essences "hydrating" or smoothing shampoos? I'd get those.

[everest]

yep, i saw some stores with them; i'll take a look :)

[Obsidian]

Make sure you check the labels, most Pantene and herbal essence have cones.

If you only use cone free, see if you can find tresemme perfectly undone conditioner. It's cone free and quite nice.

Not sure about sulfate free shampoo's. I use one from Costco which you won't have access to but I did like L'Oréal ever curl. Lathered very well and made my hair super soft.

[everest]

want to try something with cone now and see if my hair gets softer
i always check the ingredients when looking for a shampoo, i think i even have a notepad somewhere with what to avoid and what to look for
i'll be checking with my hairstylist as well if he knows any places with good shampoos/conditioners or if he can get me some at a cheaper price

[Obsidian]

Well in that case, try the herbal essence. I like the hello hydration and tousle my softly

[everest]

will do, thanks :)
btw, been looking at these hair categories on the profile section; any idea how i can find the volume of my hair with my undercut hairstyle? like what am i supposed to do to link my hair to the "ii" "iii" and so on?

[Aredhel]

will do, thanks :)
btw, been looking at these hair categories on the profile section; any idea how i can find the volume of my hair with my undercut hairstyle? like what am i supposed to do to link my hair to the "ii" "iii" and so on?
As stated in the Visual Hairtyping Guide (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=116252):


Third Classifier - Your overall volume of hair

Put your hair in a ponytail with as much hair as possible in it. Don't bother with the way it looks - the goal is to have most/all of your hair in there. If it means it sits smack dab on top of your head to include face framing layers or bangs, put it there.

Measure the circumference of the ponytail. If you have short bangs and/or you can't get all of your hair in there adjust according to how much of your hair you have measured.


• i - thin (less than 2 inches/5 centimeters)
• ii - average (between 2-4 inches or 5-10 centimeters)
• iii - thick (more than 4 inches/10 centimeters)

So basically, the volume of the hair that is currently on your head that can fit into a ponytail. Some people like to go around the ponytail with a string, hold the meeting point with their finger, then measure the string with a ruler... some people (such as myself) like to go around the ponytail with a measuring ribbon. :)

[everest]

got 6 cm for all the top hair in a pony tail. i guess that is good considering it is only 1/3 of the total hair, if not less
ty :)

@Wreckinbelle how much do you have? you seem to have an amazing amount of volume for an undercut