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karenkte
May 11th, 2017, 12:53 AM
Thanks to LHC I've started to get my hair properly cared for. I'm washing and combing according to advice on here, using the t shirt drying ideas and I've got a silk cap and pillowcase now. I can see amazing results already so thank you

I'd like to now start experimenting with putting my hair up. It's waist length and average thickness. Usually I do ponytails but I'd like to experiment with some other ideas like the twists and buns on here and hair forks and pins

i don't want to waste money on hair accessories that might not suit or work for me until I'm sure so what I'd like to know is

what are the easiest hair up dos to try for a beginner and where can I find them on here

where is the best place to buy hair forks and pins for a newbie to try out if they work and then if they do look at the more beautiful ones

i like the look of the hair fork and pins I've seen here in pictures but I'm struggling as to what to try first until I work out what's going to work for me

akurah
May 11th, 2017, 01:21 AM
For hair styles: https://www.youtube.com/user/4ypn0tica/videos

Go to the craft store and get double ended knitting needles for "starter" hair sticks. They will be longer than most hair sticks but they'll be cheap, good for practice, and get the job done. When you're ready to spend more money there's plenty to choose from for conventional hair sticks.

Don't get knitting needles that are too thin. I suggest starting with one that's between a size 8 to 10 and a half (5 mm to 6.5 mm)

lapushka
May 11th, 2017, 08:27 AM
Try looking at ladollyvita333 and ladollyvita33 on YT, also torrinpaige. They have tutorials on there. Much better than any explanation from us.

My go-to bun is a LWB (lazy wrap bun), but a cinnamon bun or cinnabun is popular too. Those are 2 good ones to start with. If you can, maybe you can also check out how to do a nautilus, or a knot bun.

Deborah
May 11th, 2017, 01:38 PM
You can buy a cheap, thin, double ended metal knitting needle, then bend it in the center around a tube or the post on a door knob to make a highly usable homemade hair fork. Lots of folks on this list have made and used these quite successfully over the years. It will hold a bun very well and won't slide right out of you hair like hair sticks tend to do for those new to wearing buns or other updos.

Good luck!

meteor
May 11th, 2017, 02:05 PM
I started bunning by just pinning up my braids. Something like a folded braid or braided cinnabun or braided Chinese bun or simplified Ellingwoman bun should be doable. The shorter/thicker the hair is, the more sections you might need to split hair into.
I find braiding hair prior to bunning helps keep slippery hair from escaping updos too quickly and reduces the need to twist hair during bunning.
Some YouTubers I found useful:
https://www.youtube.com/user/4ypn0tica
https://www.youtube.com/user/schmetterlinchen
https://www.youtube.com/user/ladollyvita333
https://www.youtube.com/user/silvousplaits
https://www.youtube.com/user/torrinpaige
https://www.youtube.com/user/HaartraumFrisuren
https://www.youtube.com/user/Habioku
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfv2SK2lct3twyx8XiKr1BA
- etc etc...

spidermom
May 11th, 2017, 02:07 PM
Learning to use sticks was difficult for me, so I recommend a fork. That was much easier. I liked the Gibralter bun when my hair was long enough.

Juanita
May 12th, 2017, 03:39 AM
I agree with spidermom that forks are easier and hold better when learning.

Wreckinbelle
May 13th, 2017, 01:29 PM
Hi there, I'm new as well. Since high school (20 years ago) I've always just been a ponytail/bun kinda girl. Which I've been struggling with in my late(er) 30's because I'm experiencing some tenderness and hair loss on my hair line.
But just today I grabbed a chopstick outta the drawer and chucked my hair up and I love it! My hair is out of the way and its not pulling on my hair line! I did a kind of twist. Pulled hair up as if I'm going to ponytail it, put chopstick horizontally underneath did two twists and stuck the chopstick through the top, then added a couple of booby pins to secure the longer hairs that didn't fit into the twist. I found a video on Youtube called 4 Ways to do a chopstick bun.


http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f304/wreckinbelle/20170513_121316_zpsolyncqvo.jpg (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/wreckinbelle/media/20170513_121316_zpsolyncqvo.jpg.html)

akurah
May 13th, 2017, 09:30 PM
Hi there, I'm new as well. Since high school (20 years ago) I've always just been a ponytail/bun kinda girl. Which I've been struggling with in my late(er) 30's because I'm experiencing some tenderness and hair loss on my hair line.
But just today I grabbed a chopstick outta the drawer and chucked my hair up and I love it! My hair is out of the way and its not pulling on my hair line! I did a kind of twist. Pulled hair up as if I'm going to ponytail it, put chopstick horizontally underneath did two twists and stuck the chopstick through the top, then added a couple of booby pins to secure the longer hairs that didn't fit into the twist. I found a video on Youtube called 4 Ways to do a chopstick bun.


Depending on how slippery your hair is will depend on how well this works....

But try the L-finity bun. After the hair is wrapped around your fingers and thumb, pick up your hairstick. Put the stick through the finger hair loop (ok to pull finger out from loop at this point). Do NOT put the stick through the bun core or scalp hair. Move the stick until it is slipped through the thumb loop. Your stick is resting on top of the bun core.
Picture is of top of my head, showing stick not going through bun core
http://i.imgur.com/VZJmzOz.jpg?1

At this point, whether or not you add a second stick is up to you. I often do not. If you do not, the bun will tilt eventually. Mine ends up tilting (and staying at) around 25 or 30 degrees (I think that's the value?), with the finger loop on the right being lower than the thumb loop on the left If you do add a second stick, put it through "normally" (get at least a little through the existing loops, plus bun core, catching scalp hair for extra security is optional, but you will want to catch a little bit of scalp hair if you do not want a tilt)

Wreckinbelle
May 13th, 2017, 11:42 PM
Depending on how slippery your hair is will depend on how well this works....

But try the L-finity bun. After the hair is wrapped around your fingers and thumb, pick up your hairstick. Put the stick through the finger hair loop (ok to pull finger out from loop at this point). Do NOT put the stick through the bun core or scalp hair. Move the stick until it is slipped through the thumb loop. Your stick is resting on top of the bun core.
Picture is of top of my head, showing stick not going through bun core
http://i.imgur.com/VZJmzOz.jpg?1

At this point, whether or not you add a second stick is up to you. I often do not. If you do not, the bun will tilt eventually. Mine ends up tilting (and staying at) around 25 or 30 degrees (I think that's the value?), with the finger loop on the right being lower than the thumb loop on the left If you do add a second stick, put it through "normally" (get at least a little through the existing loops, plus bun core, catching scalp hair for extra security is optional, but you will want to catch a little bit of scalp hair if you do not want a tilt)

Oh, this is AWESOME! I can't wait to try this in the morning! I looks like a bow :) I love it.

akurah
May 13th, 2017, 11:45 PM
Oh, this is AWESOME! I can't wait to try this in the morning! I looks like a bow :) I love it.

I just realized I didn't link l-finity instructions. In case you do not have them:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=139545

Youtube from post set to the time the bun itself starts (in case you don't want the twists): https://youtu.be/7mlyaRdVq40?t=30s

I use two fingers to wrap around for the finger wrap. You can use one or two, whichever is easier for you. I do two because my skin gets irritated really easily when it gets scratched, and it's easier not to scratch my skin if I use two fingers. :laugh:

ETA: It looks less like a bow from the back, but I am unsure how bow like it does or does not look from the back with the modification. I will go take a picture now

ETA2: If you wear it low enough it can look like a bow a little bit at certain angles, and probably only to people taller. If you wear it nearly on the top of your head it will also look like a bow, but you will almost certainly need a 2nd stick for that, as the 1 stick variant relies a little bit on gravity to keep it put.
Picture:
http://i.imgur.com/YLH5FuA.jpg

Wreckinbelle
May 14th, 2017, 04:58 PM
I just realized I didn't link l-finity instructions. In case you do not have them:
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=139545

Youtube from post set to the time the bun itself starts (in case you don't want the twists): https://youtu.be/7mlyaRdVq40?t=30s

I use two fingers to wrap around for the finger wrap. You can use one or two, whichever is easier for you. I do two because my skin gets irritated really easily when it gets scratched, and it's easier not to scratch my skin if I use two fingers. :laugh:

ETA: It looks less like a bow from the back, but I am unsure how bow like it does or does not look from the back with the modification. I will go take a picture now

ETA2: If you wear it low enough it can look like a bow a little bit at certain angles, and probably only to people taller. If you wear it nearly on the top of your head it will also look like a bow, but you will almost certainly need a 2nd stick for that, as the 1 stick variant relies a little bit on gravity to keep it put.
Picture:
http://i.imgur.com/YLH5FuA.jpg

Using sticks is going to be a huge game changer for me!

karenkte
May 17th, 2017, 08:44 AM
Just to thanks for all the advice.
I had a go on the lazy wrap bun all last week and got the hang of it.
Ordered my very first hairstick all the way from Poland, on Etsy. It arrived today....I put my hair up and I went out this afternoon in my very first bun and hairstick.
Can't wait to start experimenting now with all the types of bun....and it feels amazing to just have my hair up for a change and off my face.
Big thank you to LHC x