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01
November 11th, 2016, 05:35 AM
So, you know, I'm trying all natural wash methods that exist, lol (except baking soda, no way, and not even natural). I already figured out powders aren't for me, they build up and cause tangles no matter what they are, herbs, clays, flour, whatever. Only stuff that actually clarifies is egg yolk (kinda condishy consistency?) and aritha (watery, but this one has it's own set of problems). What are other natural washing methods that I could try that aren't powders? Don't say rice water, this builds up on my hair for some reason too, made my hair fried looking. There must be some things that aren't powdery that I haven't tried yet...

Obsidian
November 11th, 2016, 05:50 AM
What about soap nuts?

Hairkay
November 11th, 2016, 07:00 AM
What about soap nuts?

Aritha are soap nuts.

Dixie Derelict
November 11th, 2016, 07:48 AM
Maybe fenugreek? I'm about to experiment with it for the first time, so I am certainly no expert. In fact, I'm still checking out recipes, etc.but it's a thought...Good luck!

01
November 11th, 2016, 08:19 AM
Thanks Dixie, never heard about it as a wash method. Is there a thread about it?

Chromis
November 11th, 2016, 08:27 AM
I am guessing shampoo bars are out for you?

You might try some of the other saponifying plants, like yucca or soapwort. Here is one method: http://www.motherearthnews.com/natural-health/yucca-soap-yucca-shampoo-zmaz81mjzraw

Yucca makes a pleasingly fluffy lather too!

Annalouise
November 11th, 2016, 11:21 AM
Yucca works well, I've used it. But unless she lives in the desert she will be buying it in powder form. If she can get the plant all she needs is a chunk of the root, which will be covered in dirt. You rinse off the dirt and then swish the roots in water and the water becomes soapy. And you rinse that through the hair repeatedly. :) I used to harvest it and put the roots in the freezer to be used when I needed them.

Chromis
November 11th, 2016, 02:07 PM
Yucca grows just fine here in Ontario actually! It is not restricted only to the desert and she might also be able to get the root in non-powdered form.

Annalouise
November 11th, 2016, 03:28 PM
Yucca grows just fine here in Ontario actually! It is not restricted only to the desert and she might also be able to get the root in non-powdered form.

Native to Ontario?

Annalouise
November 11th, 2016, 03:32 PM
Another thing you could try is terressentials. It's a clay hair wash product that comes in a bottle like shampoo does. :)
http://www.terressentials.com/haircare.html

lapushka
November 11th, 2016, 04:13 PM
Yucca grows just fine here in Ontario actually! It is not restricted only to the desert and she might also be able to get the root in non-powdered form.

I have 2 big yucca plants right here in my home. This is the one, right?
http://maxpull.gdvuch3veo.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/yucca1-400x558.jpg

Annalouise
November 11th, 2016, 05:06 PM
Ok, I googled yucca, yes they grow in Alberta and Ontaria, sp. yucca filamentosa. And the roots of all species contain saponins. :)
Lapushka - I don't think that is a yucca, although there are probably 50 species, but that plant doesn't look like the one's in Az or Canada.

Annalouise
November 11th, 2016, 05:13 PM
Yucca grows just fine here in Ontario actually! It is not restricted only to the desert and she might also be able to get the root in non-powdered form.

Thanks! I had NO IDEA. I'm from Alberta and I have never seen one growing anywhere.:hifive:

Chromis
November 11th, 2016, 06:32 PM
Thanks! I had NO IDEA. I'm from Alberta and I have never seen one growing anywhere.:hifive:

It's a super common garden plant here actually! There are three just on my street alone. Didn't realize you guys didn't have them there too. Ah, plant fashions! :lol:

Chromis
November 11th, 2016, 06:38 PM
I have 2 big yucca plants right here in my home. This is the one, right?
http://maxpull.gdvuch3veo.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/yucca1-400x558.jpg

That one is not a yucca, it is some sort of Dracaena. They are sometimes called "dragon tree" in English, although most call them Dracaena or just "that one plant in office buildings that never dies" There are loads of them, several commonly used as houseplants. I keep meaning to get one myself!

Annalouise
November 11th, 2016, 07:48 PM
It's a super common garden plant here actually! There are three just on my street alone. Didn't realize you guys didn't have them there too. Ah, plant fashions! :lol:

lol. Guess it hasn't caught on yet. I asked my Mom too if she knew there were yucca in AB and she said no. She is a plant person who loves to identify plants. I'm guessing that wherever they do grow in AB, its not on the prairies. ;) I'll have to research their habitat..

01
November 14th, 2016, 04:29 AM
Wow, yucca sounds so interesting... You just swish it around and it foams? Cool.

Ah, I wonder maybe there's some way to use powders but filter out powdery residue and just use watery solution...

I tried aleppo and first time was somewhat ok but second time I got soap scum in hair, so yeah xDD. When I use residue-free wash method everything's ok, but when I get residue in my hair... Oh well.

Chromis
November 14th, 2016, 06:28 AM
Pretty much! I recall when I tried it that I grated the root a bit and then swished it around, only using the foamy water to wash with. It made lots of lovely lather and smells nice. It was a bit faffing, but not too bad really.

I have always wanted to try soapwort as well: http://theherbgardener.blogspot.ca/2010/03/how-to-make-organic-soap-using-soapwort.html

If no one is growing yucca nearby and you don't have a yard to grow it yourself, you can definitely buy the root: https://www.mountainroseherbs.com/search?page=1&q=yucca&utf8=%E2%9C%93