Garnier Whole Blends

[Lucy Elizabeth]

Hey all! So I'm looking to try out a new shampoo/conditioner as I've tried nearly every LiveClean and Herbal Essences product on the market. I keep seeing ads for this new Garnier line called "Whole Blends." My local Walmart (as well as my workplace, yay for discounts!) has a display for the line, which adds to my curiosity. Has anyone else heard of or tried this line yet? And if so, how did you like it? It is paraben free, but not sulfate free (checked the ingredients on the bottle)

[andrea1982]

I haven't seen these in BC yet, looks like something I'd like to try as long as the fragrances aren't too strong. Looking at the ingredients, their formulations look similar to the other Garnier/ l'oreal products. The packaging looks cute!

[Arctic]

They are more or less the same as ones sold under the names of Garnier Ultra Doux and Garnier Response in European countries (what's up with those silly name games?) I just mention whis if you want to search the forums, so more hits would come up.

For what it's worth, I have tried the honey deep treatment, but it has too strong smell and it gives me headaches because of that. My hair didn't like it either (it felt proteiny, although I only saw one ingredient low on the list that possibly had some proteins).

Then I've tried 5 plants conditioner, the normal one, and that was fine but nothing special, nice for a change. Does not give as much slip as my normal conditioner does, but is moisturizing enough for me, no proteins, no silicone, no too strong smells.

[lapushka]

They are more or less the same as ones sold under the names of Garnier Ultra Doux and Garnier Response in European countries (what's up with those silly name games?) I just mention whis if you want to search the forums, so more hits would come up.

Yes it is the same as "Ultra Doux" in Belgium/France, same as "Loving Blends" in The Netherlands. It is a great line.

[*Stella*]

Is it the same as the Ultimate blends sold in the UK? Most of those conditioners are silicone free (I don't use shampoo so can't comment on them)
I really like the Ultimate blends The sleek restorer conditioner as a CO wash

[Arctic]

I can get it to my head, why they have so many names. It's probably safe to assume the ingredients might be slightly different, and adjusted to the water type and common hair types (and what else?) of each marketing areas, but basically probably they are same products.

[Lucy Elizabeth]

Thank you for your input, friends! :flower:

I'll probably give it a shot

[lapushka]

Is it the same as the Ultimate blends sold in the UK? Most of those conditioners are silicone free (I don't use shampoo so can't comment on them)
I really like the Ultimate blends The sleek restorer conditioner as a CO wash

Yep, same. Maybe we should put the names together in the first post so we'll know what location has what name.

[Dacia]

Maybe we should put the names together in the first post so we'll know what location has what name.

:thumbsup:

+ Original Remedies, Wahre Schätze, Ultra Dolce...

[lapushka]

:thumbsup:

+ Original Remedies, Wahre Schätze, Ultra Dolce...

Which locations? Wahre Schätze probably is Germany, and Utra Dolce Italy. But "Original remedies"???

[Dacia]

Spain.

Ultra Suave in Portugal...

Has anyone tried their latest line, the one with oat milk and rice cream (http://garwwcetraining.e-loreal.com/hair-care/beauty/ultra-doux/oat-milk-delicacy/soothing-gentle-shampoo)?

[eadwine]

I just days ago purchased the Mythic Olive Intense Mask. Wait and see how that fares for me. I have been swimming a lot, and the hair suffers from that. I still have the peach and nut leaf OOOOOLLLLDDD mask, but that stock is running low so I have been looking for a replacement. Wait and see if this olive oil can live up to the task.

[andrea1982]

Garnier is offering free samples to canadians: http://mygarnier.ca/en/whole-blends/sample-and-coupon
I signed up for the honey one ;)

[lapushka]

Amazing! Free stuff. Yay. :) I do hope it's not a foil packet, though. Because that amount, on long hair? :lol: But maybe you could still use it as a leave-in or something like that.

[*ReiKa*]

Has anyone tried their latest line, the one with oat milk and rice cream (http://garwwcetraining.e-loreal.com/hair-care/beauty/ultra-doux/oat-milk-delicacy/soothing-gentle-shampoo)?

Yep, I've got it. I bought it just as I finished the one with argan oil and cranberry (which I liked very much).

It's ok, I wouldn't describe it as a rich conditioner, it's quite light, not as nourishing as some others in the Garnier Ultra Doux/Ultimate Blends/etc lines, but I like it. It doesn't beat my favourite conditioner of these Garnier lines, which is the one with honey, propolis and royal jelly (Honey Treasures), I love that one.

I'm curious to know if anyone tried the conditioner from the Mythic Olive line?

[lapushka]

I'm curious to know if anyone tried the conditioner from the Mythic Olive line?

I have the conditioner! :) My mom found it in my stash when looking for the Lidl conditioner. Since eadwine had tried out the mask and was quite pleased, mom pulled it out for me. I first am going to try the Cien/Lidl conditioner for dry, damaged hair, tough, as promised on the Aldi/Lidl thread. But that might be what I try next.

[Frankenstein]

I want to try one of these conditioners but the presence of isopropyl alcohol worries me. It's about mid-way down the ingredients list so I'm not sure if it's a drying amount or not...

[Wusel]

Which locations? Wahre Schätze probably is Germany, and Utra Dolce Italy. But "Original remedies"???

Yes... We have the Wahre Schätze stuff here but I'm not impressed by the ingredients. The bottles look like there's something very special inside but the ingredients are not much different from regular shampoos like Panthene or Schwarzkopf, just some honey extracts, oils or fruit extracts added. Kinda boring blah in a cute bottle.

[lapushka]

Yes... We have the Wahre Schätze stuff here but I'm not impressed by the ingredients. The bottles look like there's something very special inside but the ingredients are not much different from regular shampoos like Panthene or Schwarzkopf, just some honey extracts, oils or fruit extracts added. Kinda boring blah in a cute bottle.

They are a little milder in their formulations than a Pantene or HE, though. I can tell you that. I feel that on my scalp. The shampoos at least. Pantene & HE both have SLS & SLES. These shampoos have only SLES and CB, I think. Their clay formulation has a different sulfate altogether.

[Wusel]

They are a little milder in their formulations than a Pantene or HE, though. I can tell you that. I feel that on my scalp. The shampoos at least. Pantene & HE both have SLS & SLES. These shampoos have only SLES and CB, I think. Their clay formulation has a different sulfate altogether.

Okay, good to know :) As my scalp gets irritated easily by Panthene. I thought there's no difference in scalp effect.

[lapushka]

Okay, good to know :) As my scalp gets irritated easily by Panthene. I thought there's no difference in scalp effect.

You can only try. It's only *slightly* milder, though, so if you are bothered by sulfates, this is not a good choice either.

I generally like the "Ultra Doux" line, or how it's called here. I especially like the new clay shampoo, and could even stretch one more day if I wanted to, but obviously I don't do that because of my SD. I would recommend the clay one to any oily scalps out there, though!

[Wusel]

You can only try. It's only *slightly* milder, though, so if you are bothered by sulfates, this is not a good choice either.

I generally like the "Ultra Doux" line, or how it's called here. I especially like the new clay shampoo, and could even stretch one more day if I wanted to, but obviously I don't do that because of my SD. I would recommend the clay one to any oily scalps out there, though!

I'm reading about the clay one now. :) I use clay on my face almost daily and my skin loves it so, why not try it on the scalp. :)
Kaolin = Clay is the FOURTH ingredient after water ALS and SLS! Wow!
Made me laugh to imagine the shampoo make my hair harden to a white rock on my head while washing.:bounce::bounce::bounce:

[renia22]

Yay I just saw these today at the grocery store 2 minutes up the road from me. This is what they had. I bought the green apple & green tea shampoo:



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[lapushka]

That honey mask... bet that's great. I can't say, I haven't tried it, but their masks are usually pretty awesome.

[lapushka]

I'm reading about the clay one now. :) I use clay on my face almost daily and my skin loves it so, why not try it on the scalp. :)
Kaolin = Clay is the FOURTH ingredient after water ALS and SLS! Wow!
Made me laugh to imagine the shampoo make my hair harden to a white rock on my head while washing.:bounce::bounce::bounce:

No it's not going to do that. It's a nice refreshing shampoo, IMO. Only used it twice, I think, so far, and I love it! I only have two bottles, though, so I'm using it sparingly.

[Robi-Bird]

That honey mask... bet that's great. I can't say, I haven't tried it, but their masks are usually pretty awesome.

It is. I tried it yesterday and my hair is a happy camper. I like honey, my hair likes honey, it's a good thing.

[lapushka]

It is. I tried it yesterday and my hair is a happy camper. I like honey, my hair likes honey, it's a good thing.

I'm glad you like it! :D

Here's the range we have in Belgium currently (Garnier "Ultra Doux"):
http://www.garnier-be.com/nl-be/haar/beauty/ultra-doux

[Robi-Bird]

I'm glad you like it! :D

Here's the range we have in Belgium currently (Garnier "Ultra Doux"):
http://www.garnier-be.com/nl-be/haar/beauty/ultra-doux
It looks about the same as what I've seen here in Canada, except we only have the Honey and the Avocado and Shea varieties at my local store.

Seems kind of rare to have the same packaging here as in Europe!

[lapushka]

It looks about the same as what I've seen here in Canada, except we only have the Honey and the Avocado and Shea varieties at my local store.

Seems kind of rare to have the same packaging here as in Europe!

Except for the name in general and names of certain shampoos/conditioners, I think the range seems pretty uniform. Which is nice to have something in common with other countries!

[Robi-Bird]

Except for the name in general and names of certain shampoos/conditioners, I think the range seems pretty uniform. Which is nice to have something in common with other countries!

A broader range of guinea pigs before any of us buys something for ourselves.

[lapushka]

A broader range of guinea pigs before any of us buys something for ourselves.

Haha! LOL :lol:

[diddiedaisy]

I'm using the delicate oat at the minute, it's for sensitive scalp and fragile hair and I've got both!! I like it, it leaves my hAir feeling soft. My scalp feels loads better too.

I also purchased the green mythic olive but I haven't tried that yet.

I got boots vouchers for Mother's Day so I thought why not buy more conditioner, I must be down to my last 20 lol. I have a problem!!!

[lapushka]

I got the mythic olive conditioner. I'll give that a go this Sunday for a first conditioner! :)

[diddiedaisy]

I got the mythic olive conditioner. I'll give that a go this Sunday for a first conditioner! :)

How do you decide which conditioner to use first?

[lapushka]

How do you decide which conditioner to use first?

I always use my HE Hello Hydration as the 2nd conditioner, because that's my HG and I haven't found anything more moisturizing and detangling than that (although the Aldi & Lidl conditioner I have do come close right now & the Franck Provost one for dry, damaged hair is kind of the same as well). I use my heaviest conditioner last. :)

[diddiedaisy]

I always use my HE Hello Hydration as the 2nd conditioner, because that's my HG and I haven't found anything more moisturizing and detangling than that (although the Aldi & Lidl conditioner I have do come close right now & the Franck Provost one for dry, damaged hair is kind of the same as well). I use my heaviest conditioner last. :)

Thankyou :)

[lapushka]

From my blog:

"I like the mythic olive as a 1st C, but it might be a little too rich for that, as said above. I always keep my more moisturizing conditioners for last, so I think I'll use it up as a 2nd C next, if there's much left (it's only a measly 200ml). But, in a nutshell: I *love* it. Would I buy it again? Yes. On sale. Not for 3/4 euro. If not, the Lidl and Aldi conditioners I tested of late are equally as nice and not *that* much behind this! By a little more than a fraction, I'd say. And the cost of those is a fraction as well. As you guys know, I am big on budgetting, and on a budget."


It was a little "much" for a first C. Quite moisturizing. This could replace my HG the HE Hello Hydration NO problem. It is that good. But so could the Aldi and Lidl conditioner I used in the last weeks. They are not much behind.

[diddiedaisy]

From my blog:

"I like the mythic olive as a 1st C, but it might be a little too rich for that, as said above. I always keep my more moisturizing conditioners for last, so I think I'll use it up as a 2nd C next, if there's much left (it's only a measly 200ml). But, in a nutshell: I *love* it. Would I buy it again? Yes. On sale. Not for 3/4 euro. If not, the Lidl and Aldi conditioners I tested of late are equally as nice and not *that* much behind this! By a little more than a fraction, I'd say. And the cost of those is a fraction as well. As you guys know, I am big on budgetting, and on a budget."


It was a little "much" for a first C. Quite moisturizing. This could replace my HG the HE Hello Hydration NO problem. It is that good. But so could the Aldi and Lidl conditioner I used in the last weeks. They are not much behind.

Sounds good, I think I'll try it this week as I've got two bottles in but I've been trying the oat one first.

[HappyHair87]

I tried the Honey Treasures shampoo and conditioner today.


I almost threw away alllllllll of my other products! LOL!! My hair feels SO healthy and soft and I LOVE the scent and the fact that it does not smell like coconut!

[Nellon]

Yes, this is one of my favourite brands of conditioner :) I've use it on an off for years and always come back to it. In Sweden it's called Respons.

The avocado is cone free (if I'm right?) and still quite mosturizing to a good price. And the avocado schampoo I think is cone free also?

The honey conditioner is a love at first sight (at first wash?) for my hair and it doesn't seem that super heavy on the cones correct me if I'm wrong.

And then there's the argan oil which seems a bit more heavy I think and which salvaged my bleach damaged ends for quite some time, as a leave in, before I chopped them off in dec.

Still got to try their olive oil conditioner, intrigued!

And then there's the "regular" schampo and conditioner. The schampoo I think is cone free, but the conditioner has cones I think?

And chamomile conditioner is cone free, but a bit light when one has bleach damaged hair (ooops), but nice as a first conditioner I think, or for CO wash. And that schampoo is cone free as well! And it smells lovely imo.

:) I'm using the honey conditioner right now as a second conditioner, and sometimes as a leave in. I love the smell. And best friend/partner/whatever loves the smell too :D

I also have a chamomile schampoo, a "regular" schampoo, a maroccan oil and a chamomile conditioner sittting in the bathroom... Soon to be used as well again! (In the unlikely circumstances anyone is interested what I stock in my bathroom cabinets haha) Off to bed :)

ETA: I think I'll just start using the regular schampoo and conditioner when these are used up... They smell so nice as well!!

[Hailwidis]

I'm living in the Netherlands at the moment and it's called Loving Blends here. They have a limited range available (much less than in France) and it's not available in my local supermarket, so if I want to test one of these I'll have to buy it when I'm in France.

I used Garnier Ultra Doux shampoos and conditioners when I was a teen (I lived in France back then). I tried several different ones but I remember the henna and blackberry vinegar shampoo being my favourite, although at the time I wasn't as aware of the effects products had on my hair. I'd be curious to try it again and see if my hair still likes it. I remember it smelling divine.

I'll finish my current shampoo before I experiment with anything new (I'm giving it a bit more time to decide what I think of it) but Ultra Doux is one of the options I'm considering for my next buy. I'm interested in trying the delicate oat shampoo in particular, because my scalp is sensitive at the moment (I know Lapushka, I'll have it checked out by a doctor asap ;) ).

The honey and olive oil conditioners seem to get good reviews here, so I'm interested in those too. They're both relatively new so I didn't try them back in the day.

Has anyone tried the argan and camellia oil or the coconut oil and cocoa butter ranges?

I remember having disastrously greasy hair after washing with the avocado oil and shea butter shampoo, so that one's not for a good fit for me.

[Nellon]

I'm living in the Netherlands at the moment and it's called Loving Blends here. They have a limited range available (much less than in France) and it's not available in my local supermarket, so if I want to test one of these I'll have to buy it when I'm in France.

I used Garnier Ultra Doux shampoos and conditioners when I was a teen (I lived in France back then). I tried several different ones but I remember the henna and blackberry vinegar shampoo being my favourite, although at the time I wasn't as aware of the effects products had on my hair. I'd be curious to try it again and see if my hair still likes it. I remember it smelling divine.

I'll finish my current shampoo before I experiment with anything new (I'm giving it a bit more time to decide what I think of it) but Ultra Doux is one of the options I'm considering for my next buy. I'm interested in trying the delicate oat shampoo in particular, because my scalp is sensitive at the moment (I know Lapushka, I'll have it checked out by a doctor asap ;) ).

The honey and olive oil conditioners seem to get good reviews here, so I'm interested in those too. They're both relatively new so I didn't try them back in the day.

Has anyone tried the argan and camellia oil or the coconut oil and cocoa butter ranges?

I remember having disastrously greasy hair after washing with the avocado oil and shea butter shampoo, so that one's not for a good fit for me.

I used the argan and camellia oil one today. I'd say it's pretty heavy but it really helps me have soft and non-tangly hair. I used to use it as a leave in all the time on my old bleached ends and it saved them for quite some time. I'd say it's great for detangling and slip. But we're all different in what works ;)

ETA: I think it smells lovely as well!

[Mirsha]

I used the honey shampoo and conditioner for a while when they came out here. I don't remember much of them. This thread has nearly convinced me I should try again.

Whenever I went to Belgium/Luxembourg/Germany I always stocked up on the Ultra Doux conditioners. I liked them very much! In the meanwhile my hair is a tad longer (hip vs bsl) and needs more moisturizing than the honey version gave me.

Shame I'm already hoarding four other different conditioners.

[eadwine]

I'd suggest the olive oil version instead. The mask in the jar works wonders for me. :)

[HappyHair87]

I wish we had all the ranges here in the states that you all have in the UK :(

I was just so excited to see the line arrive in the US bc I has seen so many French youtubers raving about the line (yes I can read/speak French)...

We don't have the Olive Oil line here, and some of the others you all mentioned. I hope they send the entire line over bc it's definitely a relief from all these other shampoos and conditioners that all smell exactly the same. :(

[Mirsha]

I got the clay shampoo, the Argan & Camellia oil mask and the Olive Oil mask for 50% off. The masks were €3, the shampoo was around €1.75.

I used the shampoo and the olive oil mask in the shower today, just a normal S/C.
The shampoo is very creamy with a lovely mild scent that doesn't linger. I shampooed and rinsed once. It rinsed clean very quickly. I got some of it on my forehead and it completely dried out my skin though. Next time I'll be more careful.

I followed with a good sized goop of mask. The mask itself is very nice and thick. It's easy to spread evenly though the hair and left me with a very nice seaweed feeling. That's the feeling I'm always looking for, since it usually means my hair is going to look good when it's dry. The scent reminds me of lemonade, not a fresh summer's day lemonade.. but more of the dregs left in the warmed jar left after a nice summer's day. It's not very strong fortunately.

My hair's still drying at the moment so I can't tell if I like it just yet. I had also pre-oiled my hair with coconut oil so that might skew the first results a little.

Overall first impression: Nice.

[lapushka]

My hair's still drying at the moment so I can't tell if I like it just yet. I had also pre-oiled my hair with coconut oil so that might skew the first results a little.

I always skip my oil rinse when testing out something new. It will skew the results.

[Mirsha]

Well on the plus side of that, my hair wasn't oily when it dried without doing anything special to wash it. Sort of bonus? :)

[lapushka]

Well on the plus side of that, my hair wasn't oily when it dried without doing anything special to wash it. Sort of bonus? :)

Oh I'm sure there's plenty of time to test it on its own - and maybe you don't have to and just get into your normal routine with it. :shrug: :D

[lapushka]

I used the mythic olive as a 1st conditioner on one occasion, and as a 2nd conditioner on another (today) and I have to say, this is a *very* moisturizing conditioner & an awesome detangler. It can fully replace my HE Hello Hydration and might even be a tad more moisturizing. :D I will buy this as a replacement when it is on sale and priced lower than the HE one (which I somehow doubt).

[Carolyn]

I looked for it this morning, at both Walmart and Walgreens. Nope. Not there yet. I'm anxious to try it. I am in love with their commercials on TV. They remind me of the advertising for Long and Silky back in the 70s. That, alone, is enough to get me to try it. I have no issues with parabens, cones, or sulphates.

[HappyHair87]

For some reason the scents make me think of commercials from that era...even tho i was born in the 80s lol!! I love anything that has a 70s/hippie vibe :grin:

[renia22]

These are everywhere where I live now. Unfortunately I don't like any of the scents except for the green apple & tea one. The pomegranate smells okay, but the formulas look to be too heavy for my hair. The cocoa butter, avocado, coconut milk & vanilla and honey formulas are all heavily perfumed in a modern day "complex" sort of a way. happyhair87, I loved the 70s from what I remember of them :). I was a child of the 70s & 80s, and these don't have that linear, fruity freshness that the scents from back then used to have. What a bummer :(

[lapushka]

These are everywhere where I live now. Unfortunately I don't like any of the scents except for the green apple & tea one. The pomegranate smells okay, but the formulas look to be too heavy for my hair. The cocoa butter, avocado, coconut milk & vanilla and honey formulas are all heavily perfumed in a modern day "complex" sort of a way. happyhair87, I loved the 70s from what I remember of them :). I was a child of the 70s & 80s, and these don't have that linear, fruity freshness that the scents from back then used to have. What a bummer :(

That's funny. I don't get a particularly strong scent from any of these. Maybe the formula is different?

[renia22]

That's funny. I don't get a particularly strong scent from any of these. Maybe the formula is different?

Not sure, I strongly suspect the European formulas are scented differently. The lavender rose formula you guys have is really nice. Maybe I just didn't like any of the scents, but they are definitely strong, much like our Herbal Essences scents (which are also strongly scented, so you really have to like the scent because it clings to the hair).

[lapushka]

Not sure, I strongly suspect the European formulas are scented differently. The lavender rose formula you guys have is really nice. Maybe I just didn't like any of the scents, but they are definitely strong, much like our Herbal Essences scents (which are also strongly scented, so you really have to like the scent because it clings to the hair).

To me HE doesn't smell that strong. Huh. It does linger a bit in the hair, yes. Hmm. :hmm: Maybe my nose can take a lot. :lol:

[renia22]

^^ I do like scents to linger, as long as I like the scent. If not then it's one of those things where you can smell it all day and can't wait to wash it out :/. Maybe they will be popular, though, haven't seen too many reviews yet...

[lapushka]

I generally don't have many scents that bother me. But the shampoo from Aldi that is in the pink bottle (Kyrell) (only in Belgium, I think) does have a strong smell. Kind of a *very* strong marzipany scent. The conditioner is the same, but milder. I do have to "adapt" to that scent, and have never had that happen before that there is a scent I don't particularly like much. But that shampoo does that to me. And I generally *love* Aldi goodies. So darn. :( I am going to use up the bottle, though. Nothing goes to waste here!

[renia22]

Marzipan...that actually sounds nice! One of these days I have to get myself to Aldi's to see what we have in the states.

The strongest scents that I can recall is one of the Beauticurls conditioners, which smells like iris, and Shea Moisture Yucca Baobab, which smells like honeysuckle. Both smell sooooo strong, people ask what perfume you are wearing, and you can still smell them after washing hair with a different shampoo. Yikes! Unfortunately I did not like either scent. I do like Finesse, which is strong, and the Herbal Essences pink retro one. Also Body Envy has been changed, it smells like oranges now. Those are strong, but I like them.

I did check the Garnier USA website and the reviews of the Whole Blends have been mostly positive. Lot of reviews for the coconut oil & cocoa butter, avocado and honey formulas. They must have been giving those away for people to try or something, there's a ton of reviews.

[Robi-Bird]

I've been using the Avocado and Shea shampoo and conditioner off and on for two weeks, I think. My hair seems to like them quite well. My waves are sticking around, despite the fact that I brush them out to bun and don't use any styling products to keep them around. I do rotate my products but I've been favouring these since I got them. The conditioner is a titch heavy for my oily self so I've adapted to just use it on the very tips as my second conditioner and I use one of my HE hoard as the first conditioner and conditioner from the ears down with that one. This seems to work, and allows me to wash every 3 days. Any more than that and the scalp is fussy jerk.

[Frankenstein]

I bought the green apple & green tea conditioner and used it for my last wash. It made my hair very soft, shiny and super slippery... it isn't the most moisturizing but that's fine since it's not supposed to be. I think this will be a good light conditioner to use for times when I just want my hair to be more "bouncy" and not weighed down. Now I really want to try the others but I have enough products stashed already :p

[Aubren]

I tried the honey conditioner, deep conditioner and the shampoo. The shampoo I found extra drying. The deep conditioner was nothing of the sort and the regular conditioner left no slip and my hair was so sad. Major waste of money for me. I love herbal essences for life I think. I have dry coarse hair.

[Anya15]

I don't think we get the Ultra Doux Shampoo here (I've seen some Ultra Doux nourishing hair oil though?). We get a bunch of other Garnier stuff, and in shampoos it's mostly the Fructis line. I used them for a while when I was younger - made my hair VERY tangly.

[lapushka]

I'm going to be trying the Honey version of the Garnier (Whole Blends, Loving Blends, Ultra Doux, Ultra Dolce, ...) this Sunday as a 2nd conditioner in my routine (WCC). I am expecting it to be as moisturizing as the mythic olive (that one is spectacular).

[lapushka]

I tried the mythic olive & the honey conditioner both now. I can definitely say that the mythic olive is a *magical* conditioner, *very* nourishing, and even better than a mask would be! Have repurchased and finished a bottle already!

The honey one has a very fake, strong scent, quite overpowering. Nothing that I can't move past, not for the few uses that I have left, at least. It also is a bit less nourishing, so for those with easily weighed down hair, this might be more to your liking.

They are still on the more nourishing side of things, if they can detangle my hair without too many hiccups. A few tiny tangles with the honey. 0 tangling with the mythic olive!

[tigress86]

I really wanna try the Mythic Olive now! If I like the honey conditioner I will probably love the olive one!

[lapushka]

I really wanna try the Mythic Olive now! If I like the honey conditioner I will probably love the olive one!

It comes out almost like toothpaste, aaalmost. In thick coils, you really have to squeeze the bottle. It's even better than most of the masks I have ever tried. And that is saying a lot. It can replace my HE Hello Hydration as a 2nd conditioner. Definitely. It's even a smidge better than that, and I don't say that lightly.

[Marika]

^ I really dislike these conditioner bottles! It's true, you really have to squeeze the bottle and I wish the bottles were also bigger (at least 300 ml). Honestly, I haven't had much luck with these products but I do like the Mythic Olive conditioner and the mother of pearl & cherry comes close second.

[eadwine]

The olive oil conditioner makes the hair smoother than the jar mask, in my experience. I have to be careful because I have such slippery hair, when I use the conditioner I have to make sure that I am not going to be wearing special updos, because that is a nightmare to put in :lol:

I wish they would have made round bottles, MUCH easier to squeeze the product out of. As far as the amount, that doesn't matter which of the two it is, I goop both ;)

[lapushka]

The olive oil conditioner makes the hair smoother than the jar mask, in my experience. I have to be careful because I have such slippery hair, when I use the conditioner I have to make sure that I am not going to be wearing special updos, because that is a nightmare to put in :lol:

I wish they would have made round bottles, MUCH easier to squeeze the product out of. As far as the amount, that doesn't matter which of the two it is, I goop both ;)

I'm a "gooper" too. :lol: :rollin:

[lapushka]

Remember me, complaining about the "fake" smell of the honey conditioner. Scratch that. It is a scent that may smell fake when you apply it, it absolutely doesn't when it's in your hair, and *boy* does it linger in your hair. I have never had *any* conditioner or shampoo linger in my hair as long as this. It is now Tuesday, was washed Sunday and I can still smell it on there. Wow. I'd say it might be worth it to get after all. :D Maybe not as plentiful (;)) as the mythic olive one, but still. It is worth it for the lingering scent!

[littlestarface]

The mythic olive sounds nice, its a shame we dont have it here.

[Perididdle]

I was eyeing these in the store today, moments after I found out (very belatedly!) that the Tresemme Naturals conditioner had been discontinued. Anyone whose hair liked/likes that Naturals line have any experience trying out these? I am eyeing the Coconut Water & Vanilla one, as well as the Avocado & Shea. Shea is often too heavy for my hair, but I loved how my hair responded to the avocado oil in the Tresemme line, so maybe it's worth a shot! And I like that lots of these seem to have aloe, which my hair responds well to.

Hmmmmm....

[Frankenstein]

Remember me, complaining about the "fake" smell of the honey conditioner. Scratch that. It is a scent that may smell fake when you apply it, it absolutely doesn't when it's in your hair, and *boy* does it linger in your hair. I have never had *any* conditioner or shampoo linger in my hair as long as this. It is now Tuesday, was washed Sunday and I can still smell it on there. Wow. I'd say it might be worth it to get after all. :D Maybe not as plentiful (;)) as the mythic olive one, but still. It is worth it for the lingering scent!

I was in the hair care aisle at the store today and I heard a woman yell "This smells just like honey!" I looked up and she was sniffing the Whole Blends honey conditioner and then put it in her cart :lol:

[-Fern]

Haha, that's funny, I just bought both the Honey conditioner and Coconut milk conditioner from this line and thought to myself, "There's bound to be a thread for these..."

I love the smell of both, think I'm going to do a DT tonight with.... :hmm: the honey one! :magic:

[Robi-Bird]

The honey one seems to last, scent wise, past a second washing, with a different product.

On the bright side, I like the scent.

[lapushka]

It might grow on me. I can still smell it in my hair and it is now Thursday - it is getting slightly more diluted, though.

[eadwine]

I got an offer for one of the products for half price, I decided to get the olive oil shampoo to try that out. Wait and see how I like it :)

[lapushka]

I got an offer for one of the products for half price, I decided to get the olive oil shampoo to try that out. Wait and see how I like it :)

If you don't have particularly oily hair, it should be fine. It is a heavily moisturizing shampoo, though, so best suited for dryer skins.

I never try the same shampoo from the same conditioner. Because my scalp needs one thing (heavy cleaning) and my lengths another (heavy moisturizing).

Hope you like it, though! :D

[lapushka]

Review on tightly coily hair, for the hydrating set:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnzPQYrLvf4

[H o n є y ❤]

Just tried the honey one & used it as a DC. It left my hair very soft and so it's a winner.. I'm not very fond of the smell though. It doesn't smell bad just not what I prefer. I wonder what the coconut water one smell like.

[summergame]

Just tried the honey one & used it as a DC. It left my hair very soft and so it's a winner.. I'm not very fond of the smell though. It doesn't smell bad just not what I prefer. I wonder what the coconut water one smell like.

I'm very curious about the coconut one and the green tea also but they don't sell them here in Belgium. The other ones you can find here.

[lapushka]

Just tried the honey one & used it as a DC. It left my hair very soft and so it's a winner.. I'm not very fond of the smell though. It doesn't smell bad just not what I prefer. I wonder what the coconut water one smell like.

It lingers in my hair for an entire week! That's a first! At first I thought the smell was "fake" then I got used to it and the scent that lingers is a tiny bit diluted and is just lovely, IMO.

[Adorkable One]

I just got out of the shower after using the Honey one. It's okay I guess. I didn't really have any expectations for it. It feels like any other conditioner to me. It didn't out-perform anything else I've used. It felt fine in my hair. It was easy to incorporate in. Didn't feel super moisturizing, just normal. Maybe when my hair is dry, it will be different, but as of right now, I'm "meh" for how it works.

As for smell...in store, I couldn't tell any difference between the scents, and they all smelt very faint to me. Once I got it home and used it, it was stronger. It smells like what you'd expect. It's sweet, a tad on the heavy side, but not overwhelming. Would I buy it again? No. For not doing anything special, I'd rather pick something out that had a scent I liked better.

I'm sort of in a rut for conditioners right now. I'm not happy with any of the ones I own right now....I need to stop trying new ones until they're all gone. Lol.

[lapushka]

In Belgium shampoo sizes for bottles are typically 250 ml, and conditioners used to be 250 ml, but are now 200 ml. Why! Why? This is across the board for all brands, mind you! The only larger bottles they do is from the brand Franck Provost and from Syoss.

Then I see a 650ml bottle of Whole Blends shampoo and I think... why the heck don't they do that here?

[eadwine]

I think it's the pricing. The stuff would become too expensive then for people to buy it.

[littlestarface]

The honey one left my hair so straight, it took out a lot of wave, it is very smooth and soft. The smell is great at first for like the first 2 days but now my hair smells like my faint tresemme conditioner I use for CO. So the tresemme smell still outlasts everything I put on it afterwards. I wouldn't buy this again only cuz of the cone but if it didn't have cones i'd replace my tresemme with it.

[lapushka]

I think it's the pricing. The stuff would become too expensive then for people to buy it.

I don't know; they charge $6 for the big Whole Blends shampoo, I think. So not too expensive, considering the amount you get and that you have to pay between €2-4 for a small bottle anyway.

[lapushka]

The honey one left my hair so straight, it took out a lot of wave, it is very smooth and soft. The smell is great at first for like the first 2 days but now my hair smells like my faint tresemme conditioner I use for CO. So the tresemme smell still outlasts everything I put on it afterwards. I wouldn't buy this again only cuz of the cone but if it didn't have cones i'd replace my tresemme with it.

Maybe try looking into the mask. Might be that that is without silicones.

[eadwine]

I know, it is the price that you pay for the thing that is too high, all the other brands need to do the same thing AND have them in stores or they are pricing themselves out of the market that way.

[lapushka]

I know, it is the price that you pay for the thing that is too high, all the other brands need to do the same thing AND have them in stores or they are pricing themselves out of the market that way.

Well there's Franck Provost & Syoss in Belgium kind of doing this. People go nuts over the bigger containers. Especially the dry, damaged hair conditioner by Provost is a winner! You used to get a pump with that huge bottle (saved it), you no longer do. I went through 2 tubs of them already. Still like it, it is up there with my HE HH.

[eadwine]

Great that it is working out, is provost one of the cheaper brands, or? I don't know anything about them.

I have a stash of GWB here with the masks, and two bottles of shampoo so.. I will be using this for a while :) Almost done with the first tub :)

[lapushka]

Great that it is working out, is provost one of the cheaper brands, or? I don't know anything about them.

I have a stash of GWB here with the masks, and two bottles of shampoo so.. I will be using this for a while :) Almost done with the first tub :)

Here you go, €5.29 @Kruidvat for a 750ml bottle - not that much.
https://www.kruidvat.be/nl/franck-provost-expert-reparation-conditioner/p/1914963

[eadwine]

That is comparable to the smaller bottles of the "big brands", price wise. That is what I mean.. what would a bottle of GWB of that size cost? Much more than this I think, and that is what I mean with the high price and pricing themselves out of the market then when all that it can be compared to is the little ones that cost less.

I am not explaining this right I think. It is not a matter of how much bang for the buck in this case, it is a matter of how far is this big bottle then sticking its head out above the cornfield. Too much and people go EWW that thing is expensive if there is nothing similarly priced near it.

[lapushka]

That is comparable to the smaller bottles of the "big brands", price wise. That is what I mean.. what would a bottle of GWB of that size cost? Much more than this I think, and that is what I mean with the high price and pricing themselves out of the market then when all that it can be compared to is the little ones that cost less.

I am not explaining this right I think. It is not a matter of how much bang for the buck in this case, it is a matter of how far is this big bottle then sticking its head out above the cornfield. Too much and people go EWW that thing is expensive if there is nothing similarly priced near it.

You could say that. ;) It's all about the price per liter in the end. It is often cheaper in a bigger bottle, and I wouldn't have to stock up so much. ;) Not that there'll be a shortage of hair stuff here any time soon. :p

[eadwine]

I know it is all about that, but that is not my point I am trying to make.

For selling things, in the store, imagine an isle with all small bottles, all priced around 4. A normal customer (not us ;) ) is not going to get the one sole big bottle which is priced at 8. It looks more expensive than everything else, so they are likely not going to grab that, even though it is better value for money indeed. They mostly just look at the price of something and that's it.

That is what I am trying to say. I give up otherwise hahahahah!! :)

[lapushka]

LOL, I think more people than you think look at the price per liter, per ounce, per kg. ;) It's often marked in the store as well what that price is, so it's easy to make comparisons. My mom even does it with toilet paper. LOL.

EU is a different market. I don't know how they come up with how they are going to sell things. Maybe it is because in the US you have to drive a little more that they think people need bigger containers of things, to last them longer. I mean even milk over there comes in *huge* bottles. And here we are with our 1L tetraBRIKs LOL! Well, milk in smaller packages I get (keeps fresher better). But somehow I don't get it for shampoo & conditioner. :p

[eadwine]

Well .. in my experience, and I have been over there a few times, the US that is.. normal size families, two parents with two kids, and they just go through the stuff faster than we do even. Where we drink a liter they drink a gallon. The amount eaten is also a lot more, so.. I don't think it is that but more the larger quantities consumed per person. At least what I saw when I was there. *shrug*


I look at the price per liter as well. And price per roll on TP, yep, guilty. :lol: But you have to when you're on a low income. It's the same with clothes.. I will NEVER pay 25 euros for a tshirt UNLESS there is something -really- special about said tshirt. You can yap at me all day about the quality of more expensive things and how they last longer, but I don't care. I don't have the money for that! :lol:


I would buy a bigger bottle of my shampoo if it saved me money, sure. I get my laundry detergent from Action. You know those HUGE bottles for real cheap? They last me a LONG time. There IS a "best by" kind of date on the bottles, remember that jar with the number in it on make up products? Maybe the same goes for poo and dish?

[lapushka]

I would buy a bigger bottle of my shampoo if it saved me money, sure. I get my laundry detergent from Action. You know those HUGE bottles for real cheap? They last me a LONG time. There IS a "best by" kind of date on the bottles, remember that jar with the number in it on make up products? Maybe the same goes for poo and dish?

I'm with you on a lot of these things! Oh, the expiry date. The bottles of shampoo that I have been using up lately? That old Nivea bottle (they don't make anymore) and that old Dove bottle (they don't make anymore), *years* old, at least a decade. The consistency was fine, it smelled fine. I used it up! So... it lasts, as long as it's not a natural product, it lasts. And this Sunday, I'm starting another 2 bottles that are part of the oldest in my collection, also Nivea (they don't make anymore). :lol: I don't know about more recent products, though, where they leave out the parabens and other preservative related ingredients and swap them out for other, newer ones. But we haven't reached that far (in my stash) yet. ;) :lol:

[ooo]

Whether they sell a 300ml bottle or a 600ml the production costs are not much higher. Lot's of different things (rent, labour, taxes, logistics, etc) factor into the cost of a product. In the end a product is always worth as much as people are willing to pay for it. While on one market a product might be marketed as extra super fancy more expensive in small bottles, it might be offered for less money in bigger bottles on an other market. I know, I'm making this way to easy, then again I'm no microeconomist.

[miss_donya]

I have the avocado Shea conditioner and I like it. But now I really want to try to olive oil one :cheese:
I'm curious to know if anybody tried it in an SMT?

[-Fern]

I have tried both the Honey & Coconut ones in an SMT. My hair likes them just fine. Work good, smell good. Not holy grail material for me, though.

[miss_donya]

I did a scalp oiling last night with JBCO and used the CWC method. I used vo5 blackberry and sage for the first wash and garnier's avocado and Shea conditioner for the second conditioning; however, to my surprise my hair was left frizzy and had a crunchy feeling (it still does). Could this be from garnier's conditioner?

[eadwine]

Maybe the two don't agree with each other on your hair? That is what I am guessing anyway. *shrug*

[tigress86]

I got the Mythic Olive shampoo and conditioner and I think they are great! Shampoo lathers well, but is very gentle and creamy at the same time. Conditioner is heavier than the honey conditioner, which my hair likes. The only thing better about the honey products is the smell!

[lapushka]

I did a scalp oiling last night with JBCO and used the CWC method. I used vo5 blackberry and sage for the first wash and garnier's avocado and Shea conditioner for the second conditioning; however, to my surprise my hair was left frizzy and had a crunchy feeling (it still does). Could this be from garnier's conditioner?

I think I'd blame the oil. Maybe leave out the oil next time and see what that does. Or it might be a combination of conditioners that doesn't agree with you.

[lapushka]

I got the Mythic Olive shampoo and conditioner and I think they are great! Shampoo lathers well, but is very gentle and creamy at the same time. Conditioner is heavier than the honey conditioner, which my hair likes. The only thing better about the honey products is the smell!

Yes, I find the mythic oil one heavier than the honey one too. I love both of them, though and they can both replace my HE Hello Hydration as a 2nd conditioning.

[sumidha]

I was pleasantly surprised last time I used the honey conditioner- I had a running out of hot water incident and left a ton of it in my hair, figuring I'd have gunky build up issues, but after I brushed my hair there was nothing, no stringy build up in the hair and no gross conditioner build up left on the brush, just soft hair. I still need to use coconut oil on my damp hair afterwards, but I really like this conditioner. :)

[lapushka]

I was pleasantly surprised last time I used the honey conditioner- I had a running out of hot water incident and left a ton of it in my hair, figuring I'd have gunky build up issues, but after I brushed my hair there was nothing, no stringy build up in the hair and no gross conditioner build up left on the brush, just soft hair. I still need to use coconut oil on my damp hair afterwards, but I really like this conditioner. :)

Nice to hear that it can be left in! :D

[diddiedaisy]

I got the Mythic Olive shampoo and conditioner and I think they are great! Shampoo lathers well, but is very gentle and creamy at the same time. Conditioner is heavier than the honey conditioner, which my hair likes. The only thing better about the honey products is the smell!

The mythic olive is my favorite, nothing bad to say about it at all. It's heavy enough without being too much, and always leaves my hair feeling well moisturised.

[Spinder]

If only L'Oreal didn't test on animals... :(

[diddiedaisy]

I've picked up the 1 minute treatment the strength restorer honey treasures. It was in the knockdown section for £2, not that I'm saying I'm cheap, but I didn't like the honey conditioner so I wouldn't have bought this at full price!!! I haven't had chance to use it yet though. Has anyone tried this, and is it any good?

[littlestarface]

I've picked up the 1 minute treatment the strength restorer honey treasures. It was in the knockdown section for £2, not that I'm saying I'm cheap, but I didn't like the honey conditioner so I wouldn't have bought this at full price!!! I haven't had chance to use it yet though. Has anyone tried this, and is it any good?

I have not even heard of it, I didn't like the conditioner either and I would've much preferred to buy that 1 minute treatment to test it out. Post a pic of it and the ingredients if you can.

[diddiedaisy]

I have not even heard of it, I didn't like the conditioner either and I would've much preferred to buy that 1 minute treatment to test it out. Post a pic of it and the ingredients if you can.

Here's the ingredients. I've done a protein treatment tonight so I'm going to test it out in the morning. I'll let you know what I think of it.
http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag361/sblackburn4/Mobile%20Uploads/6CE573AE-8B03-4C68-AEF3-CC96A3ED9CB7_zpsvptmus4e.jpg (http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/sblackburn4/media/Mobile%20Uploads/6CE573AE-8B03-4C68-AEF3-CC96A3ED9CB7_zpsvptmus4e.jpg.html)

Let me know what you think of the ingredients, it's all gobbledegook to me!!!

[littlestarface]

These ingredients look better then the regular conditioner, the honey and propolis is higher on the list than the methicone(I also think its water soluble) is. On the conditioner the amidithicone is like the 3rd ingredient. I wonder how this is gonna feel compared to the regular one. I wanna try it.

[diddiedaisy]

Sorry, here's a picture of the front. Looong day !!!

http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag361/sblackburn4/Mobile%20Uploads/7A7C59C7-DABE-4ECE-AACF-3E9765DE069D_zpsbcr2as1m.jpg (http://s1373.photobucket.com/user/sblackburn4/media/Mobile%20Uploads/7A7C59C7-DABE-4ECE-AACF-3E9765DE069D_zpsbcr2as1m.jpg.html)

I also got the silky smoother shampoo with vanilla milk and papaya. Also knock down lol. It's for mid length hair with splits. £1 for 400 mls. There's nothing I love more than a bargain :)

[littlestarface]

Ah your so lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[diddiedaisy]

Ah your so lucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know, I think they are discontinuing a lot of lines at my local supermarket. I got loads of hair stuff worth £62 for £9. Right place, right time for once, I thought it was christmas!!!

[littlestarface]

I know, I think they are discontinuing a lot of lines at my local supermarket. I got loads of hair stuff worth £62 for £9. Right place, right time for once, I thought it was christmas!!!

If you like it you should go back an buy them all lol.

I'm looking at amazon right now for this and I found it but only in UK grrrrrrr

[diddiedaisy]

If you like it you should go back an buy them all lol.

I'm looking at amazon right now for this and I found it but only in UK grrrrrrr


It was the only one left, not surprisingly. That's disappointing, I must admit though that I'd never noticed it before, I don't think it's sold in all stores.

[diddiedaisy]

Okay, so I used the one minute treatment this morning. When I rinsed it off my hair felt soft and smooth without the feeling silicones give you if you know what I mean. After drying my hair looks and feels like it always does. It's soft and slippery, but when I dry it straight (no heat, just the odd brush), this is what it feels like anyway. If there is any difference, and it is a might, is that my fly aways could be more fly away. I'm not sure if this product is heavy enough for my hair.

Of course, used regularly the benefits could build up, but from a one off treatment it doesn't seem to have done anymore than my usual conditioner.

[lapushka]

Okay, so I used the one minute treatment this morning. When I rinsed it off my hair felt soft and smooth without the feeling silicones give you if you know what I mean. After drying my hair looks and feels like it always does. It's soft and slippery, but when I dry it straight (no heat, just the odd brush), this is what it feels like anyway. If there is any difference, and it is a might, is that my fly aways could be more fly away. I'm not sure if this product is heavy enough for my hair.

Of course, used regularly the benefits could build up, but from a one off treatment it doesn't seem to have done anymore than my usual conditioner.

I don't think they claim to be miracle products. I think you got your money's worth for one pound. ;) Don't you?

[littlestarface]

Okay, so I used the one minute treatment this morning. When I rinsed it off my hair felt soft and smooth without the feeling silicones give you if you know what I mean. After drying my hair looks and feels like it always does. It's soft and slippery, but when I dry it straight (no heat, just the odd brush), this is what it feels like anyway. If there is any difference, and it is a might, is that my fly aways could be more fly away. I'm not sure if this product is heavy enough for my hair.

Of course, used regularly the benefits could build up, but from a one off treatment it doesn't seem to have done anymore than my usual conditioner.
Thanks for update, I'm glad it didnt make your hair feel coated or anything.

[diddiedaisy]

hehe, yes I did get my moneys worth!!! I'm going to stick with the mythic olive in future though, it's by far my favorite.

[Decoy24601]

Wow, I just bought the nourishing conditioner and used it and I have to say, I'm impressed. My hair doesn't tolerate regular dimethicone at all. It ends up feeling very coated after using dimethicone heavy conditioners. I guess my hair doesn't mind amodimethicones nearly as much, since my hair doesn't feel weighed down at all. I was also worried it wouldn't wash out of my hair well because of how thick the conditioner is, but my hair doesn't feel coated at all. The fragrances in it still bother my allergies like most hair products do, but at least it made my hair feel great. I think I'll continue using it along with my inecto naturals shampoo (it has SLS, but it's watered down).

I can't wait to try using this in a SMT.

[Beatrice]

Aah, Ultra Doux--my savior! On our honeymoon in France last year, I actually thought I could survive on disgusting hotel shampoo for almost two weeks.

Ha. Right.

I waited it out longer than I should have--my hair is probably still paying for my sins!--but finally I said to my husband, "Even if I don't have room to pack up what's left and have to throw out the remainder when we leave, I MUST have real shampoo and conditioner!" Thank heaven the little grocery down the street in Paris stocked some lovely moisturizing shampoos and conditioners from the Ulta Doux line. I saw "Garnier," and I knew I was saved!

[miss_donya]

I was walking down the supermarket isle and was pleasantly surprised to finally encounter the mythic olive line, I thought we didn't have it here.
I got the conditioner because I wasn't sure whether I should get that one or the mask. I just realized that it contains cones :(

[miss_donya]

I think I might temporarily go back to amodithecone. I think my hair kinda liked it

[diddiedaisy]

I was walking down the supermarket isle and was pleasantly surprised to finally encounter the mythic olive line, I thought we didn't have it here.
I got the conditioner because I wasn't sure whether I should get that one or the mask. I just realized that it contains cones :(

I love this one, it's my favorite by far. :)

[eadwine]

I use the mask. I have tried both mask and conditioner and conditioner makes it TOO slippy hahaha.

I don't care about the cones, before I was a "hair person" I used cones as well and there was never an issue. I use the shampoo along with it as well, washing only once a week is enough for me. But wow does that stuff work wonders :D

[lapushka]

Yes the olive one can definitely replace my Herbal Essences Hello Hydration as my Holy Grail conditioner. The honey one could do as well, but is slightly less hydrating. They are amazing conditioners.

[Arctic]

I might have to try the olive conditioner. Is it protein free? Has it cause acne for anyone who is sensitive to oils?

[diddiedaisy]

I might have to try the olive conditioner. Is it protein free? Has it cause acne for anyone who is sensitive to oils?

I have sensitive skin on my back but this one doesn't seem to bother me. I had a bad flare up the other day but I'd got coconut oil on it. I'm not sure about protein content, as I'm not at home.

I don't like the honey products, but my hair doesn't appreciate any honey especially real honey. It makes my hair feel yuck.

[miss_donya]

I use the mask. I have tried both mask and conditioner and conditioner makes it TOO slippy hahaha.

I don't care about the cones, before I was a "hair person" I used cones as well and there was never an issue. I use the shampoo along with it as well, washing only once a week is enough for me. But wow does that stuff work wonders :D
I never really noticed the difference when I was a hair person either, however I did end up getting dry knotted hair , eventually. After i clarified I decided to avoid them, I think almost all my products contained cones or protein or even both eeeek.
I'm glad I'm learning from LHC !

[miss_donya]

I have sensitive skin on my back but this one doesn't seem to bother me. I had a bad flare up the other day but I'd got coconut oil on it. I'm not sure about protein content, as I'm not at home.

I don't like the honey products, but my hair doesn't appreciate any honey especially real honey. It makes my hair feel yuck.

You could have and intolerance towards coconuts by the way. I used to get tiny red bumps on my face when I use coconut oil on it for a day or two, after doing a health check for other reasons I found out that I have a mild intolerance towards it.

[diddiedaisy]

You could have and intolerance towards coconuts by the way. I used to get tiny red bumps on my face when I use coconut oil on it for a day or two, after doing a health check for other reasons I found out that I have a mild intolerance towards it.

Yeah I probably do, although it only effects the top 1/3 of my back. That part of my body doesn't like much to be honest lol. There's so many things that set it off I don't even try to pinpoint anything, I can with coconut oil because it's a single ingredient. Those little red bumps are soooo itchy lol. The doctor gives me hydrocortisone cream for flare ups.

[miss_donya]

Yeah I probably do, although it only effects the top 1/3 of my back. That part of my body doesn't like much to be honest lol. There's so many things that set it off I don't even try to pinpoint anything, I can with coconut oil because it's a single ingredient. Those little red bumps are soooo itchy lol. The doctor gives me hydrocortisone cream for flare ups.

I would suggest avoiding it in food as well. Maybe you could do an allergy/intolerance test too?

[eadwine]

I saw the leave-in conditioner at the DA store today.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-47iJNvOLRr8/VeoViALlkGI/AAAAAAAAVus/jNlXu22_NRo/s640/garnier-loving-blends-mythical-olive.JPG

I am talking about the bottle with the small cap on the left side of the picture. It is a conditioner it said, no rinsing it out just leave it in. Good for the ends.

I searched this thread but I guess I am either a goof haha or it just hasn't been mentioned yet. Does anyone use this particular leave in?

[vampyyri]

As much as I wish I could get into this line... A lot of the products wouldn't work for me. The moisturizing products are all coconut scented (I hate the smell of coconut), honey doesn't work for my hair, I don't need something for color treated hair.... etc

I was sniffing the Avocado one (Nourishing, I believe) and it was okay smelling. I also was looking at the Green Apple one, but I wasn't exactly sure what they mean by "Refreshing". Does anyone have experience with those two?

[lapushka]

Normally it is indicated on the bottle (here it is) what type of hair it is for. I think the green apple might be for oilier hair types.

[vampyyri]

Normally it is indicated on the bottle (here it is) what type of hair it is for. I think the green apple might be for oilier hair types.

Oh... whoops. I probably could have went for the Green Apple one then. I didn't actually read the backs of them, I stood at the display and sniffed everything, rubbed my chin while thinking, and left. :shrug:

[shaded in gray]

I am currently using the Green Apple one. I do mostly only CO, but do occasionally do the shampoo. I use a cone-free conditioner for the first rinse and then the WB conditioner as my final rinse. I love it so far. My hair is not particularly oily or dry at this point, but this conditioner is great and keeps my hair really moisturized.

[Frankenstein]

I really liked the Green Apple conditioner too. It's so light but moisturizing at the same time.

[diddiedaisy]

I went to different supermarket today and noticed the avocado and shea conditioner, I don't think I've seen it before. I had it right there in my hand and I was walking away with my prize. Then I remembered that I don't need any more conditioners for a gazillion years and I put it back with a heavy heart :(

Has anyone used this line and is it any good, or should I say is it better or as good as the olive one?

[lapushka]

I went to different supermarket today and noticed the avocado and shea conditioner, I don't think I've seen it before. I had it right there in my hand and I was walking away with my prize. Then I remembered that I don't need any more conditioners for a gazillion years and I put it back with a heavy heart :(

Has anyone used this line and is it any good, or should I say is it better or as good as the olive one?

The olive one is 10x better than the avocado one, on par with my old faithful the HE Hello Hydration. In my country the avocado one is an old one, and does not have silicones, and that's what made it about as nourishing as the old Inecto coconut for me; not that moisturizing at all.

I don't know if the formula is the same, though!

[diddiedaisy]

The olive one is 10x better than the avocado one, on par with my old faithful the HE Hello Hydration. In my country the avocado one is an old one, and does not have silicones, and that's what made it about as nourishing as the old Inecto coconut for me; not that moisturizing at all.

I don't know if the formula is the same, though!

Thanks for that, I'm glad I didn't buy it now and temptation is once again back in its' box. :)

[eadwine]

Getting washed under ;) So.. asking a different way:

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/o518/eadwine/Haarspul/leavein.jpg

The one the arrow is pointing at is the leave in, in this case the olive oil kind.

Has anyone used the leave-in of Whole Blends yet?

[lapushka]

Nope, not me. It's probably a good leave-in though, seeing as the conditioner is so moisturizing. But it's going to be the same (about) as that got2b leave-in cream (have you used that one up already?).

I do have to say, any leave-in is a leave-in to me. :shrug: I don't notice much difference from one to the next. I have tried:

- Hegron
- Andrelon curl one
- got2b
- Kruidvat own brand

All the same to me, so far. I'm about to try the Hema own brand (UV protection) one this Sunday, with the Eco Custard on top.

If you get a chance, try it, tell us your experiences. Someone has to be the guinea pig. ;) :p

[eadwine]

Yeah I prefer to be a one brand girl, I have that g2b leave in somewhere, I think. Or I gave it away, with my memory, who knows... :lol:


I doubt I am getting it, I fear it will leave my hair looking greasy. Just saw a video on the coconut oil one and yeah.. don't like the look. This is that video, move to the end to see the hair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2nXlbC_-HA

She's happy, but I don't think it looks good, it's not for me.

[lapushka]

Yeah I prefer to be a one brand girl, I have that g2b leave in somewhere, I think. Or I gave it away, with my memory, who knows... :lol:


I doubt I am getting it, I fear it will leave my hair looking greasy. Just saw a video on the coconut oil one and yeah.. don't like the look. This is that video, move to the end to see the hair. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2nXlbC_-HA

She's happy, but I don't think it looks good, it's not for me.

Maybe if you use only a little. But if your hair is moisturized enough that you don't need a leave-in or the LOC/LCO method, then I'd leave it be.

[eadwine]

Indeed.. if it needs moisture all I have to do is mist it with water, that's it. So yeah.. likely not needed for me :)

[diddiedaisy]

I've been using the delicate oat for the past few days, I bought it a few months ago when my scalp was sore. I like this one as much as the olive. These two are the only ones I'd rate at the moment. I didn't like the coconut one or the honey treasures.

Oh, and the delicate oat does work on sore scalps!!!

[lapushka]

2 conditioners are my staples and can replace my HE Hello Hydration, the olive one (for sure) and to a lesser extent the honey one. They are *that* good.

[diddiedaisy]

Hello hydration did nothing for me, I tried it when my hair was going through a dry phase. Another conditioner I do love though is dove dry oil, great for dry hair.

[RebekahE]

I really want to try the honey one. My hair tends to get dry. Probably because of my long hours in the sun (I try to keep it covered) and wearing it in braids a lot. I just fear putting the shampoo on my scalp will cause increased shedding because when I did a honey\oil deep treatment I put a little on my scalp and noticed increased shedding? Any second thoughts?

[diddiedaisy]

I really want to try the honey one. My hair tends to get dry. Probably because of my long hours in the sun (I try to keep it covered) and wearing it in braids a lot. I just fear putting the shampoo on my scalp will cause increased shedding because when I did a honey\oil deep treatment I put a little on my scalp and noticed increased shedding? Any second thoughts?

It might be you don't get along with honey, it doesn't do anything for me even in an smt. I have found the best one for dryness is the mythic olive, it's a great moisturizer.

[lapushka]

I really want to try the honey one. My hair tends to get dry. Probably because of my long hours in the sun (I try to keep it covered) and wearing it in braids a lot. I just fear putting the shampoo on my scalp will cause increased shedding because when I did a honey\oil deep treatment I put a little on my scalp and noticed increased shedding? Any second thoughts?

Maybe get the conditioner only, and try a shampoo that is suited to your scalp.

[SpiderMonkey]

I have tried quite a few of these, and am loving this brand! The honey and coconut\cocoa ones are definitely my favorites on my dry, frizzy hair. Makes it very smooth and shiny. I would love to try the olive and oat lines someday, hopefully they will bring them to the US.

My biggest worry with loving these products is how quickly Garnier likes to change or discontinue products. I used to love Triple Nutrition, but when they changed it, it no longer worked for me.

[lapushka]

I have tried quite a few of these, and am loving this brand! The honey and coconut\cocoa ones are definitely my favorites on my dry, frizzy hair. Makes it very smooth and shiny. I would love to try the olive and oat lines someday, hopefully they will bring them to the US.

My biggest worry with loving these products is how quickly Garnier likes to change or discontinue products. I used to love Triple Nutrition, but when they changed it, it no longer worked for me.

Yes, but Garnier Ultra Doux / Loving/Ultimate/Whole Blends have been around (as Ultra Doux) in this country (Belgium) for *years*. For years the bottles were the same. Sure some products were discontinued along the years, but it's been here for over 2 decades now, so... in that time a few products can change. But they're pretty stable around these parts, I'm glad to say. It will also all depend on how successful the line is over there (The Netherlands/UK/US).

[Daydreamer.]

They look interesting, but too bad they have cones....

[lapushka]

They look interesting, but too bad they have cones....

Not all of them do. In BE at least the avocado conditioner didn't have silicones (which is why it wasn't all that nourishing for me). And also there was a famous hair mask in BE years ago (discontinued), that was *super* nourishing and did not have silicones. It was the peach & nutoil mask. Let's see if I can find an image... nope. It was discontinued a few years ago now (I still have a backstash, yay :cheer:).

You definitely have to check the ingredients!

[eadwine]

I still have two jars of that peach stuff, saving it for a friend who wanted it, and since I switched to the olive one, I can do that ;)

[lapushka]

I still have two jars of that peach stuff, saving it for a friend who wanted it, and since I switched to the olive one, I can do that ;)

I think I have about 6-10 of them left. Thank goodness they don't go bad. If I finish my Aloe conditioner by Action/Hegron, I'm going to be digging into a peach & nutoil mask. :D It's great these threads that remind you of these things, isn't it? ;) :lol:

[Phalaenopsis]

Ooh, I miss that mask so much! It was my first holy grail product when I started growing out my hair. I still don't get why they discontinued it... :(

I love the cocoa/coconut conditioner and also the avocado conditioner. They are cone free and make my hair soft and smooth. Definitely worth a try

[Decoy24601]

On the subject of Whole Blends conditioners having cones (at least in the US), they only have amodimethicone, which is probably the lightest cone I've ever used. The effect on my hair is very similar to going cone-free. Even the "Nourishing" avocado one isn't too heavy for my buildup-prone hair. I would definitely give it a try.

[RebekahE]

I got the honey conditioner and so far I like it. It is so creamy and thick and a small amount spreads out really well, though I still tend to just gob a huge handful because my hair tangles so easily. I really, really want to try the honey shampoo but once when I put a honey+oil treatment on my hair I put a little on my scalp and noticed my shedding increased a little. Maybe it was my imagination. Should I give it a go? Or should I try one of the others and if I try one of the others which one? I can't decide. I have lingered in the aisle smelling and looking over each one and I can't decide which one to get. I use cones because it keeps the slip in my hair and helps with tangles. For some reason my hair tends to get dry easily, idk why, I use a good leave in that I like and the Whole Blends Smoothing Oil Coconut Oil and Cocoa Butter and I like it, it is light enough that it doesn't leave build-up and a little goes a long way. Sorry for rambling but maybe one of you fine ladies can recommend one of the shampoos based on that.

[lapushka]

I got the honey conditioner and so far I like it. It is so creamy and thick and a small amount spreads out really well, though I still tend to just gob a huge handful because my hair tangles so easily. I really, really want to try the honey shampoo but once when I put a honey+oil treatment on my hair I put a little on my scalp and noticed my shedding increased a little. Maybe it was my imagination. Should I give it a go? Or should I try one of the others and if I try one of the others which one? I can't decide. I have lingered in the aisle smelling and looking over each one and I can't decide which one to get. I use cones because it keeps the slip in my hair and helps with tangles. For some reason my hair tends to get dry easily, idk why, I use a good leave in that I like and the Whole Blends Smoothing Oil Coconut Oil and Cocoa Butter and I like it, it is light enough that it doesn't leave build-up and a little goes a long way. Sorry for rambling but maybe one of you fine ladies can recommend one of the shampoos based on that.

If you don't have dry scalp, I wouldn't try the honey shampoo or the cocoa butter one. Focus on the scalp itself and choose a shampoo that is suited towards that, so if it's oily then get something totally different!

[RebekahE]

Thanks, lapushka. I think I will get one of the lighter shampoos for summer since it has sulfate it should keep the greasies away and for the winter I am going to get a more moisturizing one as my scalp likes to get dry and itchy.

[Anya15]

They launched this line here too, it's called Ultra Blends :lol: what's with the name games?

[Decoy24601]

I just tried the Honey Treasures mask. I was surprised to find that after thoroughly coating my hair, I had just only made a dent in the tub. I was surprised at how little it took to coat my hair and by how much there actually is in that small-looking tub. My hair is still drying, but so far it feels nice.

[Arctic]

I bought the mythic olive conditioner (normal, rinse out type). I was wanting to try silicones for a change and this also did not have protein and I remembered the great reviews from here. I have only tested it on dry hair, putting a bit on my (slightly moistened) braid tassle and it does seem ok so far - other than the smell. It's so strong it sent me to lingering headache danger zone right away, with a feeling it could cause a migraine on me. I should have suspected something like this, as their honey deep conditioner had the same problem.

[lapushka]

That's a pity, Arctic. Hmm, they don't smell that strong to me, but then again, I can handle smells quite well, even though I too am a migraine sufferer.

[Arctic]

Some fragrances are worse than others. The Finnish brand I use the most, called XZ has very strong fragrances but they never give me headaches. I think I am able to use this up, and the little drop that I used on my braid did seem to make my hair feel good. I hope my nose will get used to it, and maybe when I'll actually rinse it out it's better - now I used it as a leave in. (The honey deep conditioner had such strong smell it still made me headachy the next day too, I hope this one isn't so bad.) I often wish there would be sniff-testers here, I don't want to sniff products that are not testers at the stores (I know many do).

[lapushka]

Some fragrances are worse than others. The Finnish brand I use the most, called XZ has very strong fragrances but they never give me headaches. I think I am able to use this up, and the little drop that I used on my braid did seem to make my hair feel good. I hope my nose will get used to it, and maybe when I'll actually rinse it out it's better - now I used it as a leave in. (The honey deep conditioner had such strong smell it still made me headachy the next day too, I hope this one isn't so bad.) I often wish there would be sniff-testers here, I don't want to sniff products that are not testers at the stores (I know many do).

Maybe it's because you use it as a leave-in. Try using it as a plain old rinse-out, which it is. :)

[Arctic]

Yeah that's my plan for tomorrow but I was too impatient when got the new bottle today I just had to test a lil drop of it :D

[Arctic]

I had better luck today; used the olive conditioner normally + a bit as a leave in. No headaches!

[lapushka]

I had better luck today; used the olive conditioner normally + a bit as a leave in. No headaches!

Yay, success! :D I'm glad it worked out. :)

[VanillaTresses]

I actually really like the apple one, both the S and C. I haven't tried the leave in yet.

[Arctic]

My mythic olive update: it's been nice conditoner, not awesome but very decent. The scent however does bother me, and almost everytime I have used it* I get a mild, lingering headache.

But, in regards to the * above. For some reason when I mix it with another conditoner, the scent does not bother me. And I like what it does to my hair better this way also.

I noticed this half-accidently, when I was trying to use up a not-so-great conditoner by mixing it with mythic olive one, and suddenly my hair was all kinds of wonderful, and no headache! I don't think it's just the smaller quantity used, because I also tried using less of it before finding this trick and it still gave me headache. Also, the other conditioner I use is quite heavily scented too, but for some reason the scents this brand (Finnish, called XZ) uses never cause headaches, whereas I have now had two Garnier Respons conditioner that have been giving me headaches (honey and olive). And for some reason mixing the two "neutralizes" the scent of mythic olive or something - at least neutralizes the headache producing qualities.

Anyway, now I am a fan, and I like what a bit of silicone is doing to my hair! I was no-silicone for a long time but now that I have quite a lot of wiry hairs I think cones can help me quite a bit. This mix of mine also has not been building up, another plus. :)

Since I found this mix I have used nothing else :D

[Fragment]

Soooo, after reading through both this thread and various google results, I was massively enabled and finally bought the rice cream&oat milk mask today.
I wanted to buy the Olive Conditioner and maybe mask so badly, but rational thinking somehow won (my wallet thanks me for this): unfortunately, while "hair oil" with cones and another Garnier mask with them seem to work just fine, coney Conditioner often leaves me with dry ends (even happened with the HE Hello Hydration, which I really, really wanted to like ), and two other conditioners from this range (Vanilla&Papaya, and the Cocoa&Coconut one) left me with somehow shinier and straighter hair, but with terribly dry ends (the V&P, with cones) and/or somewhat dry-feeling, tangle prone lengths.
They should make trial sizes of this stuff, so I can give in and try it, but won't have too much spend money for nothing if it turns out bad.^^

Wish me luck with the (cone free, at least here in Germany) mask :D
My bleach-damaged parts are forever hungry for moisture, protein, and anything else they can get their imaginary hands on, so I have partly been going back to conventional products and searching for kind of "heavy duty" stuff lately.

[Fragment]

Sorry for the double post, but I can't edit. Forgot to mention I bought the oat&rice Conditioner, too :D
The fragrance is very chemically sweet-flowery, will see how/if it holds in my hair.
However, I have put a microscopically small drop in one strand of my outgrowing fringe and so far, it feels really soft.

[lapushka]

My mythic olive update: it's been nice conditoner, not awesome but very decent. The scent however does bother me, and almost everytime I have used it* I get a mild, lingering headache.

But, in regards to the * above. For some reason when I mix it with another conditoner, the scent does not bother me. And I like what it does to my hair better this way also.

I noticed this half-accidently, when I was trying to use up a not-so-great conditoner by mixing it with mythic olive one, and suddenly my hair was all kinds of wonderful, and no headache! I don't think it's just the smaller quantity used, because I also tried using less of it before finding this trick and it still gave me headache. Also, the other conditioner I use is quite heavily scented too, but for some reason the scents this brand (Finnish, called XZ) uses never cause headaches, whereas I have now had two Garnier Respons conditioner that have been giving me headaches (honey and olive). And for some reason mixing the two "neutralizes" the scent of mythic olive or something - at least neutralizes the headache producing qualities.

Anyway, now I am a fan, and I like what a bit of silicone is doing to my hair! I was no-silicone for a long time but now that I have quite a lot of wiry hairs I think cones can help me quite a bit. This mix of mine also has not been building up, another plus. :)

Since I found this mix I have used nothing else :D

That's great. Amazing what happens by accident, isn't it? :lol:

[Arctic]

That's great. Amazing what happens by accident, isn't it? :lol:

Yes it is! I even think I am going to buy this another conditioner (which on its own was not good for me) more after I finish this bottle, just to be able t mix it with mythic olive :D

[Frankenstein]

I've been using the coconut water & vanilla milk mask which is a little heavy but pretty darn good. I've also got bottles of the honey treasures and argan oil & cranberry conditioners waiting to be used, when I'm done with my current products.

[Dacia]

I can't find it on Garnier sites yet, but there's a new line out (for damaged hair, with castor oil and maple sap):

shampoo (http://img.fac.pmdstatic.net/pad/http.3A.2F.2Fphoto.2Efemmeactuelle.2Efr.2Fupload.2 Fslideshow.2F15-conseils-pour-des-cheveux-plus-forts-20143.2Fnourrissant-358088.2Ejpg/865x600/quality/65/nourrissant.jpg)

mask (http://i-cms.journaldesfemmes.com/image_cms/original/10422893-masque-ultra-doux-seve-d-erable-et-huile-de-ricin-de-garnier.png)

[Arctic]

After testdriving Mythic Olive conditioner for a while, I don't think I'll keep it in a regular rotation. Maybe I can sometimes buy a bottle. I have started to find more fairy knots after I started using it, I don't know why some conditioners make my hair react this way but mythic olive seems to be one of them. I find at least one fairy knot, often several a day now, whereas normal is few a month. This, and my nose has never gotten used to the smell.

[lapushka]

That's odd. Maybe it is because my hair is layered (I think so), but I have no fairy knots - that is completely alien to me now. I think I had them back when I was waist unlayered.

[emptyque]

I have the coconut leave-in conditioner. It livens my hair up wonderfully if I'm having an unusual dry hair day, but my hair is prone to silicone build-up, so I use it sparingly.

[Winter Fox]

I use the conditioner and maks from their white/pink range (https://moccu.hs.llnwd.net/thumbnails/d86daad4afe5f5feaa6392eda1d38aaa2daab6cc/ws_hafermilch_combo.png) and have great results!
The conditioner makes my hair smooth and moisturized and so does the mask. But I couldn't really tell a difference between the mask and the conditioner on my hair. I'll definitely re-buy the conditioner when it is empty!

[Frankenstein]

I noticed that they're now selling "Legendary Olive" in the US. I picked up a bottle of the conditioner recently. I'm guessing it's supposed to be the same as Mythic Olive.

[lapushka]

I use the conditioner and maks from their white/pink range (https://moccu.hs.llnwd.net/thumbnails/d86daad4afe5f5feaa6392eda1d38aaa2daab6cc/ws_hafermilch_combo.png) and have great results!
The conditioner makes my hair smooth and moisturized and so does the mask. But I couldn't really tell a difference between the mask and the conditioner on my hair. I'll definitely re-buy the conditioner when it is empty!

Oh the oat one; got the conditioner of that recently - will try this in the future (have other things to finish up first).

[moon_witch]

The oatmilk mask is my favorite at the moment! I haven't tried the conditioner tho because it has an ingredient I don't use. It's similar with some of the other masks. And yeah, it's even silicone free in Germany :o

[Obsidian]

2 conditioners are my staples and can replace my HE Hello Hydration, the olive one (for sure) and to a lesser extent the honey one. They are *that* good.

This is interesting. I've seen the olive and was curious about it, seems I might have to give it a try after all. It would be nice to have a option besides the HH.

[lapushka]

This is interesting. I've seen the olive and was curious about it, seems I might have to give it a try after all. It would be nice to have a option besides the HH.

The argan hair mask I got from Aldi this year (brandname: Kyrell) is pretty good too. I have been using it in place of my HE HH for a while now. It has no silicones, and argan oil is the 3rd (yes 3rd!) ingredient on the ingredients' list. It's awesome! I think I paid €2.99 for it, and stocked up when I read the ingredients and then later even more when I had tried it. Pretty pricy for Aldi, but it is technically a "mask" and not a conditioner. It says to leave it on for 5-10 min., but I leave it on for 2 and sometimes 3, and it *works*! I usually don't have that much time, so...

[GabrielleRose]

I noticed that they're now selling "Legendary Olive" in the US. I picked up a bottle of the conditioner recently. I'm guessing it's supposed to be the same as Mythic Olive.

I saw this one at my local walgreens, and the camellia oil too.

[Frankenstein]

I've been using the argan oil and cranberry conditioner for color-treated hair and I have to say, this stuff has surprisingly very little slip :eek:

[Winter Fox]

Oh the oat one; got the conditioner of that recently - will try this in the future (have other things to finish up first).

Yes exactely that! Although I'm not sure if they sell it outside of Europe. At least I couldn't find it with google. I'm curious how your hair will like it!


I've also used the Mythic Olive Shampoo and really enjoyed it. It made my hair clean and fluffy. :)

[lapushka]

Yes exactely that! Although I'm not sure if they sell it outside of Europe. At least I couldn't find it with google. I'm curious how your hair will like it!


I've also used the Mythic Olive Shampoo and really enjoyed it. It made my hair clean and fluffy. :)

I'm pretty oily so can't use "hydrating" shampoos, and the olive one is for drier hair types. I do love that conditioner, though. I fear the oats one is going to be a little too light, so I will be using that as a first C in my WCC routine. Not right now, though... other stuff to use up, which was my NY's resolution. Use more of the older stuff up, and imply some kind of FIFO system. I just used to just add to my stash. Now I pick the older stuff out first, as I should do.

[Winter Fox]

I'm pretty oily so can't use "hydrating" shampoos, and the olive one is for drier hair types. I do love that conditioner, though. I fear the oats one is going to be a little too light, so I will be using that as a first C in my WCC routine. Not right now, though... other stuff to use up, which was my NY's resolution. Use more of the older stuff up, and imply some kind of FIFO system. I just used to just add to my stash. Now I pick the older stuff out first, as I should do.

Ah I can totally understand that! I've got a whole bunch of stuff too I should use up! When I empty one of my other bottles I want to get the olive conditioner.
Personally I don't find the oat conditioner to be light - at least with my relatively fine hair I have to be careful not to use too much leave-in afterwards. :)

[lapushka]

Ah I can totally understand that! I've got a whole bunch of stuff too I should use up! When I empty one of my other bottles I want to get the olive conditioner.
Personally I don't find the oat conditioner to be light - at least with my relatively fine hair I have to be careful not to use too much leave-in afterwards. :)

Yeah, I have a list of things to use up that should last me until June, I think.

And that's good to know, thank you! :D

[Obsidian]

For those of you in Europe, did the mystic olive have cones? I just checked the US site and it seems the legendary olive is cone free but has mineral oil high up in ingredients.
http://www.garnierusa.com/products/haircare-whole-blends/legendary-olive-replenishing/products/conditioner-virgin-pressed-olive-oil-leaf-extracts.aspx

Not sure I want to try this now since I like cones so much

[Arctic]

My mythic olive conditioner does have cones (I'm in North Europe). I can't be sure from the top of my hat, but I'd say mine does not contain mineral oil.


ETA: Here's the inci:
Aqua / water, cetyl alcohol, glycerin, amodimethicone, CI 19140 / yellow 5, hydroxyethylcellulose, stearyl alcohol, Olea europaea oil / olive fruit oil, behentrimonium chloride, trideceth-6, chlorhexidine digluconate, limonene, benzyl salicylate, benzyl alcohol, isopropyl alcohol, dipalmitoylethyl hydroxyethylmonium methosulfate, alpha-isomethyl ionone, myristyl alcohol, Carthamus tinctorius seed oil / safflower seed oil, caramel, cetyl esters, cetearyl alcohol, cetrimonium chloride, BHT, citric acid, hexyl cinnamal, parfum / fragrance.

[lapushka]

For those of you in Europe, did the mystic olive have cones? I just checked the US site and it seems the legendary olive is cone free but has mineral oil high up in ingredients.
http://www.garnierusa.com/products/haircare-whole-blends/legendary-olive-replenishing/products/conditioner-virgin-pressed-olive-oil-leaf-extracts.aspx

Not sure I want to try this now since I like cones so much

The "Ultra Doux" (that's what it's called here) olive line in BE has silicones both in the shampoo (but way down the list) and in the conditioner (way up the list).

[Obsidian]

That's what I thought. I wish companies would just stick to one formula across the board. I like olive oil for my hair and really wanted to try it but looks like I'll have to go with a different variety, I must have cones in my conditioner.

[lapushka]

That's what I thought. I wish companies would just stick to one formula across the board. I like olive oil for my hair and really wanted to try it but looks like I'll have to go with a different variety, I must have cones in my conditioner.

Mineral oil is a nice replacement. Why not give it a shot? :)

[Obsidian]

Not sure it will have enough slip and am a bit worried about build up with that much oil.

[lapushka]

Not sure it will have enough slip and am a bit worried about build up with that much oil.

I had a few conditioners and masks with mineral oil, and it was fine (from "Le Petit Marseillais").

[SpiderMonkey]

There's another new one in the US with Argan and Camilla oil. Has that one been an Ultra Doux as well? I'm hoping they do a US version of the oat milk & rice. That one sounds worth a try!

[lapushka]

There's another new one in the US with Argan and Camilla oil. Has that one been an Ultra Doux as well? I'm hoping they do a US version of the oat milk & rice. That one sounds worth a try!

Yes to the argan/camelia! Is an UD one.
http://www.garnier-be.com/~/media/garnier%20local/nl-be/prd-haircare/haircare_brands_ultradoux_themarvelous/prod-p42131-big.png?h=360&la=nl-BE&w=275

[diddiedaisy]

The oat one is good. I tried it when my scalp was sensitive and it sorted it out very quickly, left my hair feeling lovely as well.

[SpiderMonkey]

The oat one is good. I tried it when my scalp was sensitive and it sorted it out very quickly, left my hair feeling lovely as well.

I can't wait for this one to (hopefully) be released here! Guess I have to try the new argan and olive ones in the meantime :)

[Obsidian]

The local walmart didn't have the olive so I got the avocado and shea conditioner for myself and the green apple poo/con for the hubby. I'll wash my hair tomorrow, hoping it will have plenty of slip. The avocado could have a better scent, can't really identify anything except sweet, really sweet and really strong. The green apple is pretty decent if its a scent you like, not one of my favorites but I will try it at some point.

[Rebeccalaurenxx]

I tried to use their search function to try and find the olive version in a store near me -- found nada. I'll have to walk into a store and see if they have it but somehow I doubt they will. Pity as it's the only formula without cones.

[diddiedaisy]

I've ordered two new conditioners I haven't tried yet as they were on offer for 75p and I can't resist a bargain haha The nourishing repairer with avocado oil and shea, and the shine revitaliser with lemon and green tea. Turns out though the shine revitaliser has not got good reviews so it will possibly be relegated to my kids if I don't like it. It sounds like it won't be strong enough for my bleached hair.

[Carolyn]

I tried to use their search function to try and find the olive version in a store near me -- found nada. I'll have to walk into a store and see if they have it but somehow I doubt they will. Pity as it's the only formula without cones.Did you check at Wal Mart and Walgreens? Both places in my little dinky, podunk town have Whole Blends.

[Obsidian]

Turns out I might like this better then my HH. My hair is super soft and not poofy like it's been for awhile. It also rinsed easier then the HH and didn't leave as much of a film on my body after rinsing.
The big test will be my SD. If the whole blends doesn't make it flair, I might have found a new HG.

[lapushka]

Turns out I might like this better then my HH. My hair is super soft and not poofy like it's been for awhile. It also rinsed easier then the HH and didn't leave as much of a film on my body after rinsing.
The big test will be my SD. If the whole blends doesn't make it flair, I might have found a new HG.

It is a slightly less harsh formula: SLES + CB while Pantene & HE have SLS + SLES + CB. I have no issues with the shampoo. Just FYI and I have SD too. If you use a more hydrating formula, I can't promise you anything, though. I have always used one for more oily hair in that range. We have that here in Belgium (the 5 herbs, and the green tea one). I have yet to have a flare-up from Ultra Doux (Whole Blends where you are).

[Obsidian]

I didn't use the shampoo, only the conditioner. I'm not giving up my suave shampoo, it keeps my SD in check. Conditioners are what I have a hard time with, many of them make me flair like mad even after one use. So far I don't have any itchies with the avocado formula and my morning hair isn't tangled.

[Arctic]

I didn't use the shampoo, only the conditioner. I'm not giving up my suave shampoo, it keeps my SD in check. Conditioners are what I have a hard time with, many of them make me flair like mad even after one use. So far I don't have any itchies with the avocado formula and my morning hair isn't tangled.

Have you been tracking the INCI lists of products you've tried? I thought that if you haven't, you might find it helpful to possibly pinpoint ingredients which don't agree with your skin.

/end threadjack

[lapushka]

I didn't use the shampoo, only the conditioner. I'm not giving up my suave shampoo, it keeps my SD in check. Conditioners are what I have a hard time with, many of them make me flair like mad even after one use. So far I don't have any itchies with the avocado formula and my morning hair isn't tangled.

I never let conditioner touch my scalp. Not with my SD, that is a no-no!

No oils and no conditioner. I think that's kind of a rule with SD.

[Obsidian]

Have you been tracking the INCI lists of products you've tried? I thought that if you haven't, you might find it helpful to possibly pinpoint ingredients which don't agree with your skin.

/end threadjack

No, I'm not organized enough to keep track of that many ingredients.



I never let conditioner touch my scalp. Not with my SD, that is a no-no!

No oils and no conditioner. I think that's kind of a rule with SD.

I try to keep everything off my scalp too but at my length, its not always possible. Especially when my dries hair is right at the back of my head.

[lapushka]

I try to keep everything off my scalp too but at my length, its not always possible. Especially when my dries hair is right at the back of my head.

Oh yeah, forgot... I didn't use conditioner at all when I was chin length and only started using a tiny bit between shoulder & APL. I basically didn't need it at chin length or thereabouts.

[Winter Fox]

I just finished my first bottle of the oat conditioner - I'm still in love with the results I get! :D When I manage to go to the store today I'll stock this one up and also buy the one with olive oil.

[likelikepenny]

Does whole blends have a good sulfate shampoo I can use for clarifying without completely drying out my hair?

[Obsidian]

I've been using the avocado conditioner every 1-2 days since I got it. It good but not for me.

My hair gets limp/flat much faster then normal but the biggest issue is it doesn't agree with my scalp.
I've been a bit itchy the last couple days and this morning I have a few tiny bumps and gritty bits on my scalp, classic signs of impending SD flair.

I'm unhappy it's not going to work as it is a nice conditioner, I like the slip but it's back to HH for me.

[Decoy24601]

Does whole blends have a good sulfate shampoo I can use for clarifying without completely drying out my hair?

The green apple one is my HG shampoo as a regular shampoo, but it'll work for clarifying. I find it to be very gentle and it somehow manages to make my hair very soft and shiny, unlike any shampoo I've used before.

[lapushka]

The green apple one is my HG shampoo as a regular shampoo, but it'll work for clarifying. I find it to be very gentle and it somehow manages to make my hair very soft and shiny, unlike any shampoo I've used before.

In the EU their formula is SLES + CB, a bit unlike the harsher US shampoos (Pantene, Herbal Essences) that are SLS/SLES + CB. And I never had a flare-up with any of the Ultra Doux (Whole Blends) shampoos either!

[likelikepenny]

Thank you for the suggestions everyone.

[Obsidian]

I tried my hubby's green apple and green tea poo/cond today and the smell is amazing. I'm not a fan of green apple either but this one is really nice. The shampoo cleaned well without being overly stripping and the conditioner is lighter then the avocado formula but still with enough slip that I was able to comb through wet hair with no trouble.

I still probably won't be able to use the conditioner regularly but it will definitely be a regular addition. Maybe once my bottle of HH is done, I'll try using just the green apple, see what happens. There has to be another conditioner that exists that won't irritate my SD.

[Obsidian]

sorry, double post

[lapushka]

I tried my hubby's green apple and green tea poo/cond today and the smell is amazing. I'm not a fan of green apple either but this one is really nice. The shampoo cleaned well without being overly stripping and the conditioner is lighter then the avocado formula but still with enough slip that I was able to comb through wet hair with no trouble.

I still probably won't be able to use the conditioner regularly but it will definitely be a regular addition. Maybe once my bottle of HH is done, I'll try using just the green apple, see what happens. There has to be another conditioner that exists that won't irritate my SD.

I'm sad I can't help, because I don't let conditioner touch my SD-scalp. I've never even tried the HE HH on my scalp before, so can't help you with that at all.

Maybe the green tea is a nice one. I hope so!

Unfortunately with SD you can often only tell a bit later (at least that's how it goes for me). I don't get itchy right off the bat, it's usually a bit of a delayed reaction. I don't know how it goes with you? Can you tell early on?

[Obsidian]

Yes, I can usually tell right away. One or two uses is usually enough. My scalp is a little itchy this morning so it seems like the green apple is a no go. I'll have to wash my scalp today.

[lapushka]

Obsidian, I applaud you for going through all that just to find a conditioner that works on your scalp. Knowing my SD, I can't put conditioner on it. I even doubt that people with SD *can* use conditioner on their scalps, but you might prove me wrong. Maybe a soft, thin, hypo-allergenic one might do the trick. Maybe try one for volume or something, those are the least moisturizing conditioners out there, and might work!

[Obsidian]

I can't wait until my hair is long enough that the conditioner doesn't get on my scalp, until then it looks like I'll be sticking with HE products.

I really think the issue is with the cones used. Garnier has amodimethicone while HE has bis-aminopropyl dimethicone. I'll have to do some research on the difference between the two.

I still like the green apple. My hair is soft, smells amazing and isn't limp, even after sleeping.

[Arctic]

Obsidian - Something with piroctone olamine as an ingredient might work for some SD-prone scalps (provided it's non-oily, etc). For my own scalp piroctone olamine has been a huge game changer and thankfully it's relatively easy to find shampoos and even few conditioners with it. That being said, since my own experiments with CO years ago, my own scalp got sensitized to conditioners and I can't put any on my scalp. Once every now and then doesn't seem to bother me, and I also regularly use conditioner pretty near my scalp because it helps my wiry, coarse hairs feel better and thus prevents trichotillomania triggers for me (= some compromises are needed for me).

[likelikepenny]

So I've been searching around the website, looking for a cone free one. Some of them are, but what I noticed is that almost all of them have isopropyl alcohol. Pretty high up on the list too. Have you guys noticed any drying effects from their conditioners?

[Frankenstein]

So I've been searching around the website, looking for a cone free one. Some of them are, but what I noticed is that almost all of them have isopropyl alcohol. Pretty high up on the list too. Have you guys noticed any drying effects from their conditioners?

I was worried about that too but they've been fine for me.

[parkmikii]

I bought their mythic olive mask yesterday and tried it today. I'm in love ♡
The slip is nice and it didn't leave my hair oily looking or anything like that, I really like it.

[lapushka]

Yeah, the olive one is good! If you like that, you are going to like the honey one too, it is a tiny tad less moisturizing but not by that much.

[likelikepenny]

I'm sooooo tempted to try these, but knowing they have drying alcohols is a turn off. The marketing is so colourful and promising, I just don't know.

[renia22]

I'm sooooo tempted to try these, but knowing they have drying alcohols is a turn off. The marketing is so colourful and promising, I just don't know.

This article might make you feel better about those ingredients, likelikepenny. They are talking about a different Garnier conditioner, but even with the isopropyl alcohol being high up on the list, it's still only 0.75% of the formula. Between the small amount that's in there and the short amount of time it's on your hair, the scientists on this website say it shouldn't be an issue. I personally have used rinse out conditioners with this ingredient and never noticed a problem myself:

http://thebeautybrains.com/2014/04/why-is-there-isopropyl-alcohol-in-my-conditioner/

[parkmikii]

Yeah, the olive one is good! If you like that, you are going to like the honey one too, it is a tiny tad less moisturizing but not by that much.

It sounds interesting to try after this one finishes ^^

[lapushka]

I'm sooooo tempted to try these, but knowing they have drying alcohols is a turn off. The marketing is so colourful and promising, I just don't know.

For the record and for those wondering, there is absolutely nothing wrong with alcohols that aren't drying. They come in most conditioners. I understand you have issues with it. But that's a different thing altogether. And why does Whole Blends give you issues, when there's tons of other conditioners out there that have about the same formula? That puzzles me more than a little. :) :flower:

[lapushka]

Wait... there's a drying alcohol in there? That's news to me. I thought we were talking non-drying alcohols so far. Why haven't I noticed it in my formulations here? And the olive oil one has always been outstanding to me! As the honey one. Maybe it's in the other ones, the "lighter" conditioners?

[likelikepenny]

Wait... there's a drying alcohol in there? That's news to me. I thought we were talking non-drying alcohols so far. Why haven't I noticed it in my formulations here? And the olive oil one has always been outstanding to me! As the honey one. Maybe it's in the other ones, the "lighter" conditioners?

I saw isopropyl alcohol in the ingredients when researching. It's about half way through the list on some. It may not be on all, just the ones I wanted to try lol.

The article posted made me feel better so maybe I'll give it a try.

[lapushka]

I saw isopropyl alcohol in the ingredients when researching. It's about half way through the list on some. It may not be on all, just the ones I wanted to try lol.

The article posted made me feel better so maybe I'll give it a try.

I'm going to check my olive oil one for you, hold on! But then it might be useless as formulas may be different depending on the country. I'll go and check anyway. Hang on.

It is in the olive one, but not the honey one (benzyl alcohol + isopropyl myristate or something or other). This is the "Loving Blends" line, so the Dutch formula. I don't have the Belgian ones here as I ordered these online from a Dutch drugstore. I have never had "issues" with either of these, though. Never!

[likelikepenny]

I think I'll try out the honey one when I get a chance and see how it goes. Thank you all :)

[lapushka]

I think I'll try out the honey one when I get a chance and see how it goes. Thank you all :)

It's definitely not a "must"; I'm certainly not trying to push you to like the product. ;) But well, I guess it can't hurt to try. I've found the olive oil to be more moisturizing and more detangling than the honey one, though; just FYI. :)

[likelikepenny]

It's definitely not a "must"; I'm certainly not trying to push you to like the product. ;) But well, I guess it can't hurt to try. I've found the olive oil to be more moisturizing and more detangling than the honey one, though; just FYI. :)

No pushing required. I'm a product junkie at heart. :p

[Frankenstein]

I've been using the honey mask and don't like it. No slip = tangles and it makes my hair feel gunky.