Going to the Salon was a mistake.

[TheEnchantress]

I am naturally a dark blonde and very very ashy. My hair is very fine and is thinning a lot at the front.

For many years now, I have been using the Nordic Lighteners to make my hair white blonde. And every 2 months, I only do the root regrowth. I absolutely adore it and it is the ultimate favourite color for me.

However, I am almost 35 years old, and my hair is fine and thinning, so I decided it was time to stop bleaching. As much as I didn’t want to. The main reason, is that I am tired of putting such a harsh lightener on my hair for so many years, I know that in another 5- 10 years it will take its toll, and over time, the hair will become worse and worse and break more and more.

I decided, I would permanently darken it a little to bring it close to my natural colour. Like, a Dark Ash Blond. And then when I need to touch up the roots, when they grow, at least I can use something less harsh than a bleach. Something with no ammonia or a semi, some gentler.

I decided since I am so white/light haired and already had about an inch of darker roots grown out, I decided to go to the salon and allow the hair dresser to do it just this one professionally. I didn’t want to risk it on my own.

So I went to the salon and explained that I wanted to stop using a lightener and bring my color closer to my natural. Since my natural was already very visible at the roots, they could see the color very well.

I had expected to see at least a medium – dark ash blonde, but when I walked out, not only did I just leave 200 dollars with them, I was a dark copper red brown! They coloured me at least 3 shades darker then my natural, and no ash at all, it was really red. My natural is completely opposite this, I have no red/orange at all in my natural hair, but what they did was... well, I have no words to describe how horrible it looked on me. And how much i cried that night. Having been a white silver blond basically all my life, and suddenly a medium red coppery brown.

That night, I washed and washed and washed 20 times in hope that it would fade some. It didn’t. I cursed myself for making the decision to go to the salon and dreamed of my white blond hair wishing that I had never done this. Especially since I got nothing even close to what I had in mind.

The next day I came back and demanded that they fix it. I told them that it was not what I asked for and that they have to help me. They refused and even twisted my words. I went to at least 6 different salons, I was willing to pay again just for someone to fix it.

No one was willing to touch my frail thin hair to lighten it. I begged for them to just lighten it to at least 2 shades lighter and less red. I got a lot of advice, but no one wanted to try to fix it.

When I got home, I was so upset and miserable. Scared as I was to lose my already thinning hair. I was desperate. I took the Nordic lightener that I usually use to go white blond and I used it. I already knew and expected that it would go orange. From such red brown hair, there was no way I could get it to a decent dark blonde.

For fear of losing my hair, I kept it on for 20 min. I did not want to leave it on the entire lightening time because I was scared it was going to kill my hair completely and scalp. So I washed it off and as expected, I looked like a carrot... BUT lightened at least down to the level of my natural, even half a shade or so lighter than my natural, just very very orange.

Of course I am unhappy with the orange, but I was happy that it was not that horrible brown anymore. I have nothing against brown hair, I think brown is gorgeous, but just not on me. It doesn’t suit me at all, and my roots would grow way too light in comparison.

Anyway, so I had this carrot hair, it was like a bright peachy orange. The Nordic Lightener I use is the silver blonde one and I always has a silver toner in it, this blue conditioner stuff. So I took out the toner and used it. Left it on for 30 min. I repeated this 2 times.

After all this, my hair is still very warm, not carrot anymore, more like a peachy dark blond, and the toner did darken it closer to my natural, but still very warm. But it didn't tone that evenly, the ends and back is much more ash, almost purple than the roots and front of the hair, so Its not all the same. I wish the front and roots were as ashy as how the back of it toned.

It is not what I wanted, and its not what I like, I am not happy with it, but its more or less tolerable. I do regret doing all this, and it all happened because of the salon. But I wish I could go back and change the decision I made.

I want to keep using a purple shampoo/conditioner to keep it this way, but I worry the ends will become way to purple since they tone so much stronger then the hair that's closer to the front.

My concern is, when the roots grow, it will grow much much more silver than the rest of the warm dark blond hair, it will be so noticeable and I can’t seem to find a colour that could match the mess on my head. No idea how to get my roots to match. I looked at all the boxed dyes and could not figured out what colour to put on my dark blond ash roots to match the current peachy warm blond.

So I was thinking, perhaps I should just grow out my natural hair from now on and not colour it. Even though It will look horrible in comparison, the root line will be so visible. But If I try to add more toner to get the hair less redder, it will just keep going darker and darker and the back and ends purple.

The problem with my natural is that its really thin, and colouring makes it thicker. Not only that, my natural is not all the same colour, its dark at the back, but at the front, its lighter and much silver since I also have some greys at the hair line too. But, what does everyone think? Should I just grow it and not care about how it will look? Then eventually cut off the horrible coloured ends until it grows enough? I need some advice, suggestions and, well perhaps someone to understand how upsetting all this can be.

Thank you so much for listening to my story, I appreciate it.

[Cinnamoon]

Oh, no, that sounds terrible! I'm so sorry you had such an awful experience. :( It does sound like growing it out might be your best option - keeping dying will only damage it more. It might look a bit odd for a while, but you'll get through it. I wouldn't be surprised if you discover that your natural color looks beautiful on you once it gets a bit longer. :)

[TheEnchantress]

Thank you so much for replying Cinnamoon. I have always hated my natural colour, and wish so much that i could learn to like it, even with the silver greys coming in at the front. But you never know, grow it long enough and it may even grow on you. Thank you again :)

[spidermom]

I know that what would be right for me would not be right for you because I would never have done any of that to my hair, including bleaching it to white blonde. What I would do is cut it very short to get rid of the damaged hair as quickly as possibly.

[TheEnchantress]

Thanks for reading Spidermom. I was hoping to do that when my natural grows out a little. Short hair does not suit me in the slightest. I have chopped it already to my shoulders (after the very long process of getting to my dream length, it was at waist length :( ) and cannot go shorter than that. At least I can just tie it up in a pony for now. If I decide to grow it, I could trim every month or so as the natural grows, until its all cut off. I definitely don't want to keep it. White blond really suited me. I had found my "me" you know? and did it for about ten years. I was white blond naturally when I was a kid. But yes, I do want to stop all the damage and bleaching. which is why I wanted to get the ends darkened a little. Anyway, thank you for replying, really appreciate it. I guess I am leaning more toward growing out the natural.

Thanks again :)

[spidermom]

Do you know how to french braid? Two-toned hair looks really pretty in a french braid.

Happy growing and I hope you feel better about your hair soon.

[Chocowalnut]

First of all I would complain to the manager of that salon or call corporate. That's ridiculous.. When you spend so much money you should be completely happy and satisfied with the results. Second of all, I think you should give growing out your natural color a go :) I didn't think I liked mine either but I'm a year into growing it out and it has never looked so shiny and nice. Whatever you decide good luck. . Hair will always grow back.

[endlessly]

I'm so sorry you had such a terrible experience at the salon and shame on them for not fixing it when you obviously weren't pleased with it. When it comes to having your hair chemically colored, hair salons are, in my opinion, the worst place to go because most of the time, you're going to get stuck with a stylist that honestly doesn't know what they're doing. And honestly, that's why I've only ever been to a true "professional" salon once in my life.

Red tones are notoriously difficult to remove. You can wash multiple times, use toners, apply new color over it - and somehow, the red will always show through. I recently decided to stop coloring my hair red and I let my roots grow, then colored over the red with a dark, ash brown. A little over one month later and the red is back, although it is a bit more muted than before. However, I'm bound and determined not to give in because I know the amount of damage I've caused every single time I colored my hair and honestly, it's not worth the time and energy upkeeping a color I don't want anymore.

If I were you, I would try to go without coloring your hair. Just take it one month at a time and see how you feel. I would strongly recommend against doing any further coloring right now just because of how much you've already done to fix the salon's mistake - and also, if I were you, I'd file a complaint with that salon, too. Contact their company and tell them how awful their customer service is and the stress you've had to go through to correct their mistakes because frankly, they should know better.

Otherwise, just hold your head up because it will get better. There's actually a thread on this forum about growing out hair coloring and going natural, so I'd recommend checking that out, too, for some words of encouragement. All I can tell you is that I've been in your shoes - I rocked the orange-ish hair about ten years ago - and it does get better. The most important thing is to not panic and just focus now on repairing your hair. Best of luck and hopefully you're feeling a bit better.

[hennalonghair]

I'm sorry you went through this. Going to a salon to have someone else mess with my hair is always a mistake. Unfortunately I no nothing about commercial hair dyes except that they are very damaging. It sounds like your poor hair has been through a lot of abuse in the last little while so for now I'd just leave it Lone. French braid it to blend the two colours together once your roots start growing out. Then just start bunning the coloured portion of your hair. Silver hair is very in style right now and so is two toned hair. I'd just grow it out and act like two toned hair was what you were going for in the first place. These days anything goes. Give yourself time to adjust

[TheEnchantress]

Aw thanks so much! I am really encouraged by every one' s replies so far.

So its not the first time ive tried growing out my natural, I just hated it so so much that I failed. But I think I am ready to try it again.

Thanks so much for all your kind words. Everyone's support is much appreciated. The best I could do with the salon was so go there and complain and asked them to fix it for me without charge. But they refused and said they would have to charge me if I wanted something different. I just got so upset, that I got up and left and don't want to go anywhere near that place ever again.

I am not a very strong person in the sense that I don't fight enough for my rights. Anyway, I am just going to put it all behind me, and try to move past the fact that they completely ruined my hair.

I guess, one needs to start all over again.

[embee]

Sorry for your bad experience. I do not like going to a salon, I never feel trust that my hair will look ok when I leave.

I'm not sure where you are, but here summer is coming, so sunhats are in order. That can cover a multitude of trouble. *And* protect your hair and skin.

And if anyone is snarky enough to make a rude comment on your hair as it grows out, just say you had a salon catastrophe and are now growing out a nightmare. Most women will understand - far as I can tell most women have had at least one Bad Experience with a hairdresser. So for now, you are leaving it alone. Be firm.

Big earrings and a big smile will often distract people quite well. :) Happy growing, and may you fall in love with your own natural color.

[Lockoptimisten]

You shold do colour oops because thar really works. If you do it correctly it will remove the red/warm tones aswell

[gwenalyn]

First of all I would complain to the manager of that salon or call corporate. That's ridiculous.. When you spend so much money you should be completely happy and satisfied with the results. Second of all, I think you should give growing out your natural color a go :) I didn't think I liked mine either but I'm a year into growing it out and it has never looked so shiny and nice. Whatever you decide good luck. . Hair will always grow back.

And put a review on Yelp or Google maps! a) this will help other people avoid the salon, and b) they might contact you and offer to fix it in hopes that you change the review.

[Rosetta]

You shold do colour oops because thar really works. If you do it correctly it will remove the red/warm tones aswell
I definitely second this! That stuff is called Color Oops in the US (as far as I know) and Colour B4 in Europe, so it depends on where you are :)

Although it doesn't remove all the warm tones in my experience, but it will get it closer to your natural (or the blonde) and light enough to tone over better (should you so wish), as your starting base was very light.

[SapphiraSilver]

I am in Australia. Any idea if color oops is available in Australia?

[Rosetta]

^ ColourB4 seems to be: :) http://colourb4.com/australia.html

[kitcatsmeow]

Color Oopse is just as harsh as bleach and not as predictable.

How is your hair right now? Is it breaking? Falling out?

I would definitely let it be for 3-4 weeks. Give it lots of TLC. A protein treatment such as Aphogee's 2 step treatment saved my hair many times. Deep treatments and gently scalp massages.

Next find a salon that offers Olaplex and a color specialist. If you are going to lighten your hair again insist of using Olaplex. As long as your only going a shade or two lighter, your hair will not be damaged. If you choose a color that is the same level (pr darker) than what you have now, ask for the Olaplex treatment prior to coloring. This will repair broken bonds and prevent further breakage or damage.

Good luck!

Oh another note....If I read correctly she already lightened her hair with a lightener after the salon colored it which will make Color Oopse even less effective,if it does anything at all. Best used on fresh color.

[Hurven]

I'm so sorry about your experience! :( I think the best option for you is to grow out your natural hair colour, since that was what you were planning to do anyway. I stopped dying my hair December last year, and it's probably the best decision I've ever made for my hair. I wish you best of luck with whatever you choose. :)

[SapphiraSilver]

TheEnchantress is actually me, sorry. I had made that account because I couldn't access this one. But staff helped me and got my account back for me :) Thanks so much for all the replies. I have never heard of Color Oops, or Olaplex. Will look it up, out of interest.

I wouldn't mind going another shade lighter, but my hair is totally fried and broken off due to trying to repair the mistake that the salon had done. So I am probably not going to touch it for at least a month or so. If at all.

I appreciate all the replies, thank you so much. I have decided to just leave it alone and grow it for now, and do some coconut oil treatments, and deep conditioning for now. Even though I can't stand looking in the mirror. Must give my poor scalp and hair a break.

Thank you again :)

[Rosetta]

Color Oopse is just as harsh as bleach and not as predictable.
This is just totally untrue (Aassuming the Colour Oops is the same/similar product as Colour B4)!

Bleach is damaging, colour remover is not. I do wish people would do even a tiny bit of research before they post untruths like that... There's plenty of info about it even here on this forum, no to mention outside it.

[Red Rapunzel]

Dear SaphiraSilver/Enchantress: I'm sorry for your horrendous experience at the salon - and that they would not do anything about their error. If you used American Express to pay their $200 charge, you could contest this through American Express which is very good at holding businesses accountable! Also, since you love a white/blond color and are so uncomfortable with the new red/brown color, why not get one or more comfortable, breathable wigs in a delicious white/blond color to wear either until your hair is back to a better shade - or until you have adjusted to the new color. This would be uplifting to you since you would then have your favorite color back in a way that does not cause your hair further damage. For the thinning issue, you could start on Biotin. However, be advised that I recently tried Biotin and had terrible acne breakouts so I had to quit it. Acne appears to be a common side effect of Biotin - yet not all people have it and you may be one who does not. Biotin does surely help with thinning hair. Good luck to you with your hair mishap! Pop on a white/blond wig and feel better!

Red Rapunzel

[kitcatsmeow]

This is just totally untrue (Aassuming the Colour Oops is the same/similar product as Colour B4)!

Bleach is damaging, colour remover is not. I do wish people would do even a tiny bit of research before they post untruths like that... There's plenty of info about it even here on this forum, no to mention outside it.

Actually....I am in school for cosmetology. We have to study this and know this and it IS true. The damage comes in different ways and sometimes the damage from the color oopse doesn't show up as quickly but it's there just the same.

[meteor]

That salon experience is just heart-breaking. :grouphug: I'm terribly sorry that this happened, SaphiraSilver/Enchantress. :(

For helping the hair's condition, I'd suggest Aphogee 2-step or Joico K-Pak reconstructor or other high quality hydrolyzed protein treatment (keep doing them periodically and always follow up with a very moisturizing treatment (rich in humectants, emollients, occlusives).
Also, go heavy on pre-poo oiling with coconut oil or other penetrating oils and look for conditioners with ceramides (it's this waxy, coating, protective ingredient that we naturally have on skin and hair and it gets depleted dramatically during chemical treatments). For example, L'Oreal Professional and Redken makes many "damage repair" products with ceramides, but many, many other brands do, too.

I'd look into wigs or head covering while correcting the color to avoid frustration, because color correction can sometimes take a long time, if you want to minimize damage.

As for color correction, as a first step, if the dye is fresh, I'd go for a dye remover (*not* color stripper). Dye removers like Color Oops / Color B4 use hydrosulfite. Hydrosulfite rapidly reduces the dye molecule without the need for bleach, ammonia or peroxide. (Standard color strippers use peroxide, so that's not really what you want at this stage, you want hydrosulfite.) You need to rinse very rigorously for a *very* very long time to remove the dye. Then wash a few more times (ideally, go a whole month or at least a couple weeks washing it out) before you consider next step like bleach. That's because the color can actually come back, if it wasn't washed out completely after Color Oops. Color removers like this (not color strippers) are supposed to be quite drying but I don't think they are damaging beyond the long required washing (please somebody correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't seen any scientific studies into damage from this stuff :flower:), while bleach/peroxide is definitely damaging. I'd rather minimize the bleach exposure, to be honest.

As an aside, I've actually discussed with experienced colorists why cosmetology schools don't teach how to use color removing products and why these products have a bad rep, and I heard that it's because it takes such a long time to wash out, it's a lot of work and very inconvenient (washing out for ages), smells terrible (sulfite base) and it's just not a salon-friendly experience that wouldn't generate enough cash for salons when bleach can give overall same (but easier) result. I think it would be awesome if clients with dye on, trying to go lighter, were instructed to first use a dye removing product for a while before coming into salon and hit the bleach. It would result in needing less bleach time/vol, and I think that would be wonderful for preserving clients' hair quality a bit better. :D

Kitcatsmeow, about Olaplex, how did it work long term for you? (By the way, Barnet Girl is also asking the same question over at the Olaplex thread (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=124721&p=3000470&viewfull=1#post3000470).) There are lots of people very curious about its long-term effect. :)
Did it prevent or mask damage in the long run? Did it actually keep the integrity of the hair, or did the results wear off? And how does it compare to standard damage control products like hydrolyzed protein treatments/fillers and coconut oil? :)
Thank you very much! :D

[door72067]

This is just totally untrue (Aassuming the Colour Oops is the same/similar product as Colour B4)!

Bleach is damaging, colour remover is not. I do wish people would do even a tiny bit of research before they post untruths like that... There's plenty of info about it even here on this forum, no to mention outside it.


I had a really bad experience with Color Oops, and yes, it damaged my hair as much as bleach might.

[kitcatsmeow]

Kitcatsmeow, about Olaplex, how did it work long term for you? (By the way, Barnet Girl is also asking the same question over at the Olaplex thread (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=124721&p=3000470&viewfull=1#post3000470).) There are lots of people very curious about its long-term effect. :)
Did it prevent or mask damage in the long run? Did it actually keep the integrity of the hair, or did the results wear off? And how does it compare to standard damage control products like hydrolyzed protein treatments/fillers and coconut oil? :)
Thank you very much! :D

It's permanent and it saved my hair. Had I used it when I did all over lightening it may have saved me from cutting so much off.... (although I had a major shed and was planning a chop anyway.) If you continuously lighten, color, or use heat the effects will diminish and you will need another treatment. And of course, it's not a magic want. You can't bleach, straighten and blow dry and expect that Olaplex will save it. It can minimize the damage but it's not a fix for hair that is beyond help.
Unlike protein, you do not have to worry about getting dry or brittle hair. Sometimes hair still needs protein but if not, it can cause breakage.Olaplex won't cause brittleness even if it's not needed.

[SapphiraSilver]

Thanks so much, I am taking everyone's suggestions and replies into account. What an awesome place LHC is.

[meteor]

I had a really bad experience with Color Oops, and yes, it damaged my hair as much as bleach might.

Oh Yikes. :scared: So sorry about that, door72067. :(


It's permanent and it saved my hair. Had I used it when I did all over lightening it may have saved me from cutting so much off.... (although I had a major shed and was planning a chop anyway.) If you continuously lighten, color, or use heat the effects will diminish and you will need another treatment. And of course, it's not a magic want. You can't bleach, straighten and blow dry and expect that Olaplex will save it. It can minimize the damage but it's not a fix for hair that is beyond help.
Unlike protein, you do not have to worry about getting dry or brittle hair. Sometimes hair still needs protein but if not, it can cause breakage.Olaplex won't cause brittleness even if it's not needed.

Thanks a lot, kitcatsmeow! :flowers: That's great to know! :D For chemically treated hair, this does seem like one of the best treatments to look for.

[ThisDreamer]

I'm not sure if this has been suggested or not as I didn't read all the posts, but if your still trying to rid of your red tone what you could try is dousing your hair in olive or coconut oil (I pretty much suspect any natural oil will do), and leave it to sit for many hours. I once did this to pamper and condition my hair, as suggested by LHC. My results, while unfortunate for me, may be great for you. After what I deemed was a sufficient amount of hours, I went to wash away the oil only to be horrified to see a very good amount of my pretty red henna going with it. Once dry it wasn't to terribly noticeable, but i have no doubt if I had continued to do these treatments it would have been quite noticeable. Not sure if the oil was loosening the color molecules or what, but it was certainly stripping i away, and I'm a little sad I cant do oil treatments as my hair felt pretty great, if not straighter than normal. We also tested this on my friends hair, with commercial dye, and had fairly similar results. So you could give it a go to remove that red/copper color, if nothing else it may help with all the stress your strands have been through.

[Rosetta]

Actually....I am in school for cosmetology. We have to study this and know this and it IS true. The damage comes in different ways and sometimes the damage from the color oopse doesn't show up as quickly but it's there just the same.
No matter what school you're in, what you said is just untrue, and what Meteor writes about cosmetology schools maybe not knowing enough about this sounds very likely...
You are probably talking about those colour strippers here, not removers:



As for color correction, as a first step, if the dye is fresh, I'd go for a dye remover (*not* color stripper). Dye removers like Color Oops / Color B4 use hydrosulfite. Hydrosulfite rapidly reduces the dye molecule without the need for bleach, ammonia or peroxide. (Standard color strippers use peroxide, so that's not really what you want at this stage, you want hydrosulfite.) You need to rinse very rigorously for a *very* very long time to remove the dye. Then wash a few more times (ideally, go a whole month or at least a couple weeks washing it out) before you consider next step like bleach. That's because the color can actually come back, if it wasn't washed out completely after Color Oops. Color removers like this (not color strippers) are supposed to be quite drying but I don't think they are damaging beyond the long required washing (please somebody correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't seen any scientific studies into damage from this stuff :flower:), while bleach/peroxide is definitely damaging. I'd rather minimize the bleach exposure, to be honest.

As an aside, I've actually discussed with experienced colorists why cosmetology schools don't teach how to use color removing products and why these products have a bad rep, and I heard that it's because it takes such a long time to wash out, it's a lot of work and very inconvenient (washing out for ages), smells terrible (sulfite base) and it's just not a salon-friendly experience that wouldn't generate enough cash for salons when bleach can give overall same (but easier) result. I think it would be awesome if clients with dye on, trying to go lighter, were instructed to first use a dye removing product for a while before coming into salon and hit the bleach. It would result in needing less bleach time/vol, and I think that would be wonderful for preserving clients' hair quality a bit better. :D


I had a really bad experience with Color Oops, and yes, it damaged my hair as much as bleach might.
That's like saying "I had a really bad experience with coconut oil, so it must be damaging"... As one often sees people saying here. (Again, you may be talking about a dye stripper, not remover...)

I have used dye removers maybe 6-7 times in the past few years, with no damage whatsoever. Correctly used, they do not damage hair.

I really didn't want to go on into any kind of argument about this, but I just really dislike people distorting facts... People here do get upset when similar distorted "facts" are posted about long hair, oiling or henna, and this is no different.

[tigress86]

I have used 3 different color removers, none of them were damaging. Maybe a bit drying for a while, yes, but it wasn't permanent damage for sure.

About SapphiraSilver's bad experience - I can sort of understand what the stylist was thinking by adding the red tone and going way too darker, but they messed up, perhaps because of the lack of experience/education and not being careful enough. Dying lightened hair back darker can be tricky. I once went to the salon with exactly the same request and they were extremely careful, starting with a semi, and the dyes they used were level 7 neutral mixed with 1/4 level 7 beige. No need to really add the red pigment into the hair within those levels, in my opinion and experience, if you're going for a darker brown then yes. I highly doubt SapphiraSilver's hair would have ended up green or gray if they hadn't added red, the stylist just didn't know better. I don't know what are the consumer rights in your country, but if I were you I would try to get the money back.

[kitcatsmeow]

No matter what school you're in, what you said is just untrue, and what Meteor writes about cosmetology schools maybe not knowing enough about this sounds very likely...
You are probably talking about those colour strippers here, not removers:




That's like saying "I had a really bad experience with coconut oil, so it must be damaging"... As one often sees people saying here. (Again, you may be talking about a dye stripper, not remover...)

I have used dye removers maybe 6-7 times in the past few years, with no damage whatsoever. Correctly used, they do not damage hair.

I really didn't want to go on into any kind of argument about this, but I just really dislike people distorting facts... People here do get upset when similar distorted "facts" are posted about long hair, oiling or henna, and this is no different.

I'm not distorting facts. I am stating truth. I'm not arguing either. No need to.

[tigress86]

Perhaps you are talking about different products afterall? According to this article, some products labeled "color remover" are used with peroxide and act like bleach, while others like Color Oops contain hydrosulfite and are gentle on the hair: https://www.haircrazy.com/articles/misc-articles/color-oops-effasol-and-loreal-color-removers-guide/

[kidari]

I second the suggestion to do heavy oilings prior to washing to help the dye fade out faster while helping the health of your hair. In my experience soaking hair in coconut milk works the best to make color bleed out of your hair like crazy. Everyone's hair is different and reacts differently but if it were me I would just soak my hair in coconut oil or milk and wash more often in hot water using dandruff shampoo, etc until it's faded as much as possible. Then to counteract the warmth I would put a pea sized amount or even smaller of a silver semi permanent dye with maybe a purple one and dilute that heavily in conditioner and use that as a tint for my hair. My hair was porous and damaged and really yellow toned so using a blue based silver made my hair have a greenish cast in some lighting. Adding purple helped to get rid of the green tint but it darkened my hair until gradually all of it washed out. I would go slow and very small and gradually try it out until you find the right mix that works for you to make the tone match your natural regrowth as closely as possible until you grow out the damage. Also, you could trim every month and maintain until it grows out as well.

[turtlelover]

This is a zombie thread LOL

[kidari]

This is a zombie thread LOL
I didn't realize it was an old thread! I was lurking in the quitting bleach and growing out natural thread and saw a link to this one! Lol

Lately I've been sick and tired of coloring my hair and contemplating growing out the dye and quitting the coloring.

[ReadingRenee]

This is a zombie thread LOL

Oh man! I was about to post with all my experience and advice since I have been through such a similar experience! Oh well, I wonder how it worked out for the OP?

[OhSuzi]

Ditto - just over a year & half old - I hope they have had long enough to recover - It'd be great to get an update!

[lapushka]

Ditto - just over a year & half old - I hope they have had long enough to recover - It'd be great to get an update!

I doubt you'll get an update. OP's "duplicate account" has been banned (see first post).

[ReadingRenee]

I doubt you'll get an update. OP's "duplicate account" has been banned (see first post).

It looks like her other account is still ok though right? Sapphira Silver?

[lapushka]

It looks like her other account is still ok though right? Sapphira Silver?

Now I'm puzzled. How do you know whose duplicate account it was? :confused: I'm truly confused.
Edit: oh, I got it! I should have read some more on the thread.

[ReadingRenee]

Now I'm puzzled. How do you know whose duplicate account it was? :confused: I'm truly confused.
Edit: oh, I got it! I should have read some more on the thread.

LOL yes sorry I didn't explain better, glad you figured it out. :)

[vampyyri]

Zombie thread won't die!! :brains::hatchet:

I think the secondary account (in order to post) was banned, but the original one stayed.

[Lizzie.torp]

This might sound crazy but if it were my hair, I'd buy a blue hair dye (crazy colors aren't bad for hair) because it cancels out the orange and I would basically spot treat it starting with the more orange spots and not touching the ashy spots. I wouldn't leave it on for more 20 minutes, either. If you did this, your hair would be some sort of ashy color most likely and darker than you want, but it would also fade into an easier color to deal with. Of course there's the possibility of having blue spots if left on too long and it might look uneven but it's however serious you are about not having red.

Edit: I didn't see the posts realizing how old this was because I took too long to post. How did this thread get reactivated?

[Wildcat Diva]

You guys are all doing it wrong! You have to aim for the head!!!