'You must wash your hair everyday' - Philip Kingsley

[GetMeToWaist]

I found this video, and it kinda surprised me because I was like... doesn't he know about hydral fatigue? Mechanical damage? He's meant to be a top hairdresser. I'm not sure if what he's saying is actually correct sooo.... what do you guys think of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bALWndciibA

[lapushka]

Maybe he just wants to sell more products. ;)

[Madora]

Oh, gag me with a spoon, someone!

paraphrasing here "It takes a long time to style long hair". Yeah, just eternity..NOT!!!

Kingsley's own hair is a bit of a laugh...does that look like a bad dye job?

God, Dr. Michael would turn over in his grave hearing Kingsley's advice of daily washing/shampooing. Guess he never heard of hydral fatigue or mechanical damage. Kingsley was all about $$$$$ and very expensive, trendy haircuts that required repeated visits to the salon to be kept in tip top shape. He probably wouldn't know what to do with long hair when it came to anything actually intricate.

[darklyndsea]

He ends with "as often as you possibly can without making your life a misery"...I already do that by washing once a week. (Yay, all-day drying times)

[pixldust]

Maybe he just wants to sell more products. ;)

My thoughts exactly :D Makes me wonder if he actually believes that he's giving good haircare advice or if it's purely a marketing ploy.

[Nadine <3]

Wrong, I do not wash my body everyday! I've got dry skin man, it doesn't like being washed every day either. Maybe I'm just a dirty hippy, but I think people wash things to much. Just wash your smelly bits with a wet cloth and apply some DO...

This guy is silly, he must have washed all his hair off...:rolleyes: I'm not taking hair advice from a balding man hehe

[Sarahlabyrinth]

This man needs to come and hang out on LHC for a while and get some DECENT hair advice. He will also get to see glorious long hair grown using this decent advice.

[Wavelength]

Maybe he just wants to sell more products. ;)

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!

He's just promoting an opinion that will result in more sales. And if people damage their hair because they followed his advice, then he'll tell them to buy even more products to "fix" the problem. I bet he has a "hair repair" split-end product as well, even though it's been proven that you can't repair splits.

[hennalonghair]

Maybe he just wants to sell more products. ;)

Ya think!!! :lol:

[Dreams_in_Pink]

No offense to the good hairstylists out there, but i lost my faith in "top" hairstylists a very long time ago :)

[Majorane]

I am allergic to the word 'must'. I must not do anything with my hair! Must in yo face, mister Kingsley. Dirty hippies rule the world.


Seriously, do people actually believe this stuff.....

[SkyChild]

Yeah he's in the business of selling products, and giving people hairstyles that require 6-weekly maintenance.
I don't know if he realises it's bad advice or if that's just what people are used to so he genuinely believes it...

[Purdy Bear]

Wouldn't washing the hair everyday wash out all the natural oils?

I did wash my hair every day when I had a Diana cut when I was 18 years old, but that was because it would stick up all over the place if I didn't. I think as a hairdresser they think everyone has to refresh their style daily. That's why I like long hair because it is so much easier to style in updos etc. For now, with the little hair I have I just treat it like skin with no specific hair routine at the moment. That's Alopecia Univarlis for you.

[Stiria]

:brickwall What an idiot...

If you use a lot of products, and need to apply more every day, then you probably need to wash often. I get that. But no one MUST wash their hair everyday! (Unless you have some scalp condition that requires it of course, but you know what I mean.)

[Mimha]

(...)
Seriously, do people actually believe this stuff.....

Unfortunately yes : people are ready to believe anything when it comes from a so-called "professional". Lupushka is perfectly right : this guy is just making business.

I could also quote for myself about 99% of what Nadine says about dry skin (and bolding man giving hair care advices) ! The more you wash, the more you deprive. Ans the more you deprive, the more you have to substitute... and so the more you spend ! That's what marketing calls "creating a need".

:crazyq:

[GetMeToWaist]

I see. It saddens me that people like this are trusted (by non LHCers!) to give good hair advice...

[cathair]

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!!!

He's just promoting an opinion that will result in more sales. And if people damage their hair because they followed his advice, then he'll tell them to buy even more products to "fix" the problem. I bet he has a "hair repair" split-end product as well, even though it's been proven that you can't repair splits.

Damn, I so thought that would be right. I was looking for a product to back that up, but all I can find is this:

http://www.philipkingsley.com/hair-guide/hair-concerns/split-ends

[jacqueline101]

I've seen this guy before he has his own product line. He's trying to sell products he has that info in one of his YouTube videos. I agree he is just a product salesman and he tries to sound like a guru. His advice isn't that great.

[gustavonut]

It makes you wonder if it actually works for people. Because everyone is different..but then again washing every day does seem like a bit too much. Okay not just a bit. Damn. I can kind of understand cowashing every day though.

[78Whispers]

I hate, hate, hate that people who don't know better will take this advice and risk ruining their hair. Not everyone has the same desire for a particular look for their hair, but I think even the most structured, rigid, product using, heat styled 'dos I have ever sported never needed daily washing. I wash once a week, and even when I flat ironed (I shudder now) I washed every few days, sometimes stretching to a week, and never suffered for it.

[Dickiebow]

He didn't explain why he thinks you should wash your hair everyday, other than saying we wash our bodies everyday so hair should be the same. I was hoping he'd have a decent explanation based on scientific research.

I'm sticking to washing every third day and hoping to stretch to every fourth and then maybe more:D Looks like he takes hair advice from Donald Trump!

[lapushka]

Washing my hair every day? Because why wouldn't I take advice from a balding man? Should be a meme. ;)

[Stiria]

Damn, I so thought that would be right. I was looking for a product to back that up, but all I can find is this:

http://www.philipkingsley.com/hair-guide/hair-concerns/split-ends

I love this part: "Long hair care: Longer hair is more prone to splitting, simply because the ends are older and more weathered. If you have hair below shoulder length, hydrate and deep condition your hair on a regular basis to keep your ends supple and also to reduce further weathering"
:p

[GetMeToWaist]

I love this part: "Long hair care: Longer hair is more prone to splitting, simply because the ends are older and more weathered. If you have hair below shoulder length, hydrate and deep condition your hair on a regular basis to keep your ends supple and also to reduce further weathering"
:p

LOL in that case practically every woman would have 'long hair'... When he says deep condition he means slather with layer upon layer of cones and chlorides as his co's are full of them.

[cathair]

Washing my hair every day? Because why wouldn't I take advice from a balding man? Should be a meme. ;)

Done ;)

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I love this part: "Long hair care: Longer hair is more prone to splitting, simply because the ends are older and more weathered. If you have hair below shoulder length, hydrate and deep condition your hair on a regular basis to keep your ends supple and also to reduce further weathering"
:p

:lol: my ends must be as weathered as a 100 year old pirate ship if below shoulder is weathered :D


LOL in that case practically every woman would have 'long hair'... When he says deep condition he means slather with layer upon layer of cones and chlorides as his co's are full of them.

Ahhhh now it all makes sense. He *was* telling use to use more of his product. But in a less direct way. Damn, is his marketing working on me? That went right over my head *looks worried*

[lapushka]

Done ;)

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Good one! :thumbsup:

[Stiria]

Perfect! :spitting:

[ghost]

Even at beauty school we weren't taught to wash our hair every day, or recommend the same thing to our guests. This is horrible advice. Even if you have the most resilient hair on the planet, it doesn't need to be washed every day!
Also: as a "top" hair dresser, has this guy never tried coloring or doing an updo on hair that's been shampooed the same day? It works so much better on second or third-day hair.

[Gertrude]

Aww, bless 'im. He's from the East End of London, the old East End. Full of warm-hearted Cockney's, sharp as tacks and always surviving. Local boy made good , although I reside in the East End I'm no native. He doesn't look bad either considering he is well in his eighties. He started off in his uncle's salon but then applied to be a trichologist and love him or laugh at him he has built up trichology as a sort of science and huge business since.

He always fascinated me by telling people to wash their hair daily as he regularly sees hair " coated with dirt" walking around London. I walk around too and haven't seen many people with mud and sticks in their hair. Turns out it is sebum.

He is firmly of the opinion and I think does believe it, that you need to remove that nasty, dirty sebum and replace it with other greases in plastic bottles. He said that long before the shampoo line. My favourite product to laugh at is the Elasticizer. Or whatever it's called. It's a pre-wash conditioner and mostly cotton-seed and soy-bean oil. For about $ 50.- Ingredients can't come to much.

The clinics do hair loss mainly, male and female. They're not bogus clinics , but the shampoo line are not medicines. Bless his cotton socks. I have friends with great hair who swear by the stuff. Others swear at.

[Majorane]

Oooooh, do you know more about those hair loss clinics? I was under the impression that everything except transplantation was quackery, please enlighten me!

....and I really like how you write about him :D

[Madora]

Done ;)

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:lol: my ends must be as weathered as a 100 year old pirate ship if below shoulder is weathered :D


Ahhhh now it all makes sense. He *was* telling use to use more of his product. But in a less direct way. Damn, is his marketing working on me? That went right over my head *looks worried*

:applause Cathair, that meme is EPIC!!!

[Madora]

Bless his cotton socks.

Off topic but Gertrude, that is such a cute expression! Is it British? I've never seen it before! Thanks! Over here, we had an expression (made popular by Tennessee Ernie Ford) of "Bless his pea pickin' heart"..but I like "cotton socks" more!

[höpönasu]

Is this a joke because I'm laughing? :laugh: I expected to see a stylish hair dresser with a crazy 'stylish' hair. I've never heard of him either, oh what have I missed...

[Stiria]

I had never heard of him either, and had to google to see if it was really him on that picture:p

[LadyLongLocks]

Maybe he just wants to sell more products. ;)

Exactly what I was thinking! I would never wash daily.

[brickworld13]

I washed daily for 6 months as an experiment and I'm still cutting out damage from that adventure. His suggestion is terrible and a bid to sell his products. Just like the body wash and lotion industries. They are linked together because you keep mucking up your skin.

[Stray_mind]

i think when it comes to hair, there are no "musts"... People's hair are so different.. Different thicknes, textures, porosity, strand thickness, scalp skin, oil gland activity and so on and so on.... I think people should choose whatever is best for THEIR hair. If they find that washing hair everyday works for them, then they should wash their hair everyday. If it works for them washing their hair once a month-they should wash it once a month... If their hair "likes" products with cones and such, then they should use them... Whatever makes hair healthy looking and stronger... I for example can not go more than 4 days without washing my hair, because it gets EXTREMELY oily and my scalp starts to itch and flakes start to appear everywhere, also i shed like crazy on the fourth day, so i don't go any further. I am amazed how people can wash only once a week and their hair looks completely fine. But that's just the way my hair is..

[Mimha]

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Ha ha ha, Cathair, you are a genius !! JUST PERFECT !!!! :D :D :D

[tokugawa.miyako]

Even if it were not bad for hair, I don't think I could wash every day. I'm way too lazy. ;)

[bunnylake]

I would never ever ever NOT wash my hair every day.
I love washing my hair daily. I have my whole life. I have never had any damage from it.

[Gertrude]

Off topic but Gertrude, that is such a cute expression! Is it British? I've never seen it before! Thanks! Over here, we had an expression (made popular by Tennessee Ernie Ford) of "Bless his pea pickin' heart"..but I like "cotton socks" more!

Way back when young boys used to wear short trousers with cotton socks. Cotton being part of the Industrial revolution. Once a boy was " a young man " he would wear long trousers. This ended with the coming of the Teenager in the 1960s. No more short trousers.

To say " bless his cotton socks" is really to poke fun at a self-important man who actually seems a bit immature sort of " full of himself ". Philip Kingsley bettered himself, and went and had elocution lessons to get rid of his working class accent. If you listen he says " because" just like the Queen. Everyone did before the coming of the Teenager in the 1960s and social change, there were no regional accents in broadcasting. But you could work to Received Pronunciation, which is accent free and the more upmarket, aristocratic accent. In the US that would be getting him a lot of cheers, here there are somewhat sarcastic jeers.

He also calls himself a Consultant Trichologist. That's pure affectation and actually a bit fraudulent in that in the National Health Service senior medical specialists, many of them surgeons, get Consultant status. This means they teach new specialists to be in hospital setting as well as treating patients and heading their specialism department. They also have a private practice; you can pay to see them somewhere else. Often almost immediately, whereas you would wait to see a specialist unless you needed one urgently like you had an accident and needed surgery or had cancer. Philip Kingsley is no doctor or dermatologist or professor of biology. No Consultant in the health sense, more in the Feng Shui consultant sense. But it is ambiguous as the clinics are marketed as somewhat medical.

Trichology began in London in the last decade of the 19th century. The permanent wave was new, and coal tar hair dyes were coming along. It was the last age of long hair and any number of hair growth serums and potions could be bought, all expensive, from harmless to lethal. The idea was to make the business more respectable.

Trichology carried on and became a two year correspondence learning course for a certificate which Philip Kingsley sent away for when he was a young man working in his uncle's salon.
At the time most people who put in the money, time and effort to become trichologists were hairdressers. Nowadays most people who do have a real scientific background and sometimes a medical one. If you want to set up as a private, non national health, dermatologist with hair expertise or work on staff with the research department of a shampoo firm.

There are two clinics, the one in London has been there at least fifty years and there's one in Madison Avenue in NY I know nothing about. The London clinic has trichologists with microscopes and experience and a line of products and they have a licensed physician on staff to do blood tests and to do diagnoses.

In the UK you have a general physician, a General Practitioner, whom you see with whatever ails you. He or she will treat you and order tests and prescribe or refer you if the treatment isn't working or your condition is serious to hospital. There you go to the Clinic for Cardiology and see junior specialists and rarely the Consultant specialist. This is the National Health Service and paid for out of taxes.

GPs are not specialists; they don't know everything. Skin conditions are not medically exciting, they're not heart transplants say. Hair is the poor relation of skin. There aren't many dermatologists and they see people with severe conditions. Cystic acne, weeping and infected eczema, alopecia totalis, severe psoriasis. Also dermatologists need to see people with suspected skin cancers as a priority on an urgent basis. Nobody would argue with that.

So the Philip Kingsley clinic fills a need. If you are very worried about your hair either falling out, or your scalp being unhappy, or your hair breaking off unless you are really ill with it your doctor won't be worried. These people care, but will charge you, and can tell you that you have bubble hair, which sounds comical, but means hair was flat ironed wet, the moisture evaporated inside the hair and made a bubble. No hope, it's tincture of steel scissors.

They can also tell if you have mild dandruff and help with that, or that you have psoriasis and the doctor there will write to your doctor. They can also offer blood tests by the staff doctor and they may find you are either anaemic or have a thyroid problem and you can then take that to your GP. Most clients are women. If you have hair loss they can tell if it is actually breakage or hormone thinning or alopecia but they won't treat you. They stay well inside the law and will send you to a real doctor with any actual skin problem.

A real dermatologist will tell you to stop over-washing with soaps and detergents that are drying your skin, not to soak your skin for long, not to use products that cause irritation on your skin or scalp. They will advise very plain products and few of them . They don't sell on QVC. My daughter had severe eczema as a baby that hospitalised her. The Consultant prescribed medicine that worked and advised plain bath oil and Vaseline. So not glamorous but it improved our quality of life no end.

George Michael, the Czar of Long Hair, was also working as a hairdresse and who looked at the science of hair with his medical background and set up a long hair salon and then more of them. I don't agree with all the dogma of his Care for Long Hair but I have always respected the fact he sold no vitamins or promised cures and although the product line is expensive they are simple effective products and if they don't work for you there's no pressure to buy them. And I am sure he would also have sent you to a doctor if you needed one and his salons still do. And call themselves hairdressers and not trichologists.

Whereas the Kingsley line of QVC products ...........words fail me.

That said I do think Philip Kingsley built a big business and he was clever setting about it. And he believes in shampoo as redemption. Bless his cotton socks.

[Isilme]

As has been said before, I don't take advise from a balding man. Also, I'd never let a bald hairdresser cut my hair unless there was a medical reason for his lack of hair. If I were to wash my hair every day it would only be dry in summer and I'd have a constant cold. My Ficcares would rust and my hairforks would bend and become ugly.

[cathair]

Fantastic explanation Gertrude! I enjoyed reading that :)

[Angels+Eyeliner]

Gertude that was fascinating.

But still, a parrot who has been quacking a long time still isn't a duck.

[Majorane]

I loved that lecture! You know a lot about this subject. I like! :)

[renia22]

His reasons for why one "must" wash hair every day were pretty poor and sure he's probably making a lot of money. It's not just him, though. It's everywhere. Natural/ organic companies are also making a pretty penny, shelling out advise that doesn't work for everyone (or that might do more harm than good for some people), or that is flat out inaccurate fear mongering to sell their "superior" products. I don't think not washing hair or showering everyday or being non conventional makes anyone better than those who do. Do what's right for you. If that's washing, cutting and coloring and using "mainstream" products, go for it. If it's using less conventional methods and walking off the beaten path, that's okay too. Not everyone has the same goals anyways.

[hanne jensen]

Maybe he has only short haired clients? When my hair was short I had to wash every day or it looked filthy and smelled dirty.

[sarahthegemini]

As has been said before, I don't take advise from a balding man. Also, I'd never let a bald hairdresser cut my hair unless there was a medical reason for his lack of hair. If I were to wash my hair every day it would only be dry in summer and I'd have a constant cold. My Ficcares would rust and my hairforks would bend and become ugly.

That sounds pretty ridiculous tbh...

[mica]

That was terribly stupid, not to mention racist."Most women with Afro-Caribbean hair want it straighter", just...??? speak for yourself?

[Rushli]

Fantastic explanation Gertrude! I enjoyed reading that :)

dido! I am so going to use that line on DH sometime when he thinks that he knows more about something than he actually does. (all in good fun, dont worry!)

[pelicano]

I don't think he cuts hair, just advises on it. I've been aware of him for years - I remember getting a book out of the library years ago, and was quite puzzled by the advice in it.

[Agnieszka]

Gertrude, thank you for your informative article. Really enjoyed it!

[Selchie]

Thanks for your advice, Philip Kingsley,
but no thanks. <3