Irksome YouTube hair..?

[Éowyn_GreyEyes]

Found this while following links, and I feel really slightly annoyed... Not anything to be annoyed about, I know, and it's not that I'm hating on her hair, it's just that I can never imagine doing what she does to her hair... To mine... Am I alone or does it not look as great as the average person might think? All I can see is screaming ends and burning product shudder: Her natural hair colour looked gorgeous on her but what irked me more is saying that non straightened hair looks... What was it? Unkept? Neglected? Oh well... Just had to vent a little. After watching the whole thing the only good I heard was her towel comment and how often she washes it...

http://youtu.be/bysOjLW_eWM


So after all that meteor suggested we have a bad YouTube hair 'care' thread... Let this be it if we dare! Share the "bad" videos and share some of you pr favourites!

Edit:

Obviously what I said above has caused some ruffled feathers. Apparently the way my words come out tend to do that unfortunately. May I remind posters that if you find something insulting, please don't insult others back. These kinds of threads are based on OPINIONS. We all got 'em.

I did not mean to be rude or judgemental. When I said IM NOT HATING I meant it. I also said "not that great". To clarify, I could care less what she does to her hair and it's looks ok but damaged IN MY OPINION.

I realize there are other ways of do hair, I just PERSONALLY find this way damaging. If this you tuber put her video up, she is aware (I'm sure) that she will get comments in favour and comments of criticism. My opinion happens to be the latter.

All that said, IM SORRY I created some unneeded conflict, it was unintentional.

[Tini'sNewHair]

She certainly is not an lhc model by any standards, ignore! Lol its very easy to mask bad hair with products and everyday (at some point she said she does it) flat ironing but for myself, I wish to have natural easy to care for hair and my hair can look amazing when I let it down, just by brushing and adding a lil bit of oil. I would never follow her routine, but shes happy with what shes doing so great for her.

[Madora]

God, I couldn't watch after 2 minutes. Just inane, misinformed..and her hair certainly is NOT THICK!!!!

[HappyHair87]

Her vibe irked me.

[Éowyn_GreyEyes]

She certainly is not an lhc model by any standards, ignore! Lol its very easy to mask bad hair with products and everyday (at some point she said she does it) flat ironing but for myself, I wish to have natural easy to care for hair and my hair can look amazing when I let it down, just by brushing and adding a lil bit of oil. I would never follow her routine, but shes happy with what shes doing so great for her.

I cannot imagine using all of that product... A measly shampoo, conditioner, and oil seems to be a lot to me but I was astounded how much she used! And I kick myself when a use a low cool setting on a blowdryer once or so times a month for a special occasion... Let alone a straightener 'every' day!

[Éowyn_GreyEyes]

God, I couldn't watch after 2 minutes. Just inane, misinformed..and her hair certainly is NOT THICK!!!!
I almost couldn't but forced my way through just to see if it was worth complaining about :rant:

Her vibe irked me.
I agree... Sort of seemed like the average self absorbed 'beauty specialist' without the bi***y attitude... Just a grinding annoyance :bs:

[HappyHair87]

I almost couldn't but forced my way through just to see if it was worth complaining about :rant:

I agree... Sort of seemed like the average self absorbed 'beauty specialist' without the bi***y attitude... Just a grinding annoyance :bs: Lol at the BS flag smiley! I need that on a T-shirt!

[meteor]

She's by no means a hair guru, but she's happy with her results and maintaining long bleached hair isn't that easy. :)

What bothered me is that she referenced her older video (1 year prior), and I clicked on it and I saw that her hair used to be noticeably thicker (even though she was already bleaching and heat-styling it). So you'd think she'd realize that something about her hair routine isn't that great and is damaging...

Maybe we need a thread where we get to vent about bad Youtube hair advice (as in: what not to do)! I've certainly seen some crazy hair stuff on YT! :lol:

[truepeacenik]

Really, the excessive use of exclamation points told me not to venture farther inward.

[Éowyn_GreyEyes]

Lol at the BS flag smiley! I need that on a T-shirt!
Yeesh... Don't we all ;P

She's by no means a hair guru, but she's happy with her results and maintaining long bleached hair isn't that easy. :)

What bothered me is that she referenced her older video (1 year prior), and I clicked on it and I saw that her hair used to be noticeably thicker (even though she was already bleaching and heat-styling it). So you'd think she'd realize that something about her hair routine isn't that great and is damaging...

Maybe we need a thread where we get to vent about bad Youtube hair advice (as in: what not to do)! I've certainly seen some crazy hair stuff on YT! :lol:

Haha maybe I'll reword the thread description and we can start here!

[Marika]

I think there's nothing wrong with her hair :shrug: No product can mask damage that well, so her hair obviously isn't very damaged. And even if it were, so what? It shouldn't be other people's problem if someone wants to straighten and dye/bleach their hair. I have more problem with these kinds of threads (unnecessary judging and bullying) than with her video.

[robin000]

Jeez, don't really think she's earned any criticism. I'm not personally going to follow her routine or channel, but she didn't do or say anything offensive. The comments say she's only like 20 years old (and I say this knowing that OP is only 17) — if she found this thread I think it could be hurtful, and what's really been gained by it?

[kidari]

I think it's amazing that she's able to grow her hair that long and keep it relatively healthy considering everything she does to it. What's important is that she enjoys her hair and found a way to get it to do what she wants and figured out how to maintain it. She made this video, most likely because a lot of people want their hair like hers and it's nice of her to share all of her secrets I guess. The worst advice I'd ever seen on a YT video was a girl who said to have shiny hair like hers, you should use a curling iron on WET hair. Even then I wouldn't post her video here and encourage negative comments about her. We all get offended when people post LHC things and say how "gross" or "strange" it is.

[Mya]

Well, yes, it's quite unnecessary... One thing is to vent about damaging routines, another thing is to pick on a specific person and their hair. I hope that OP and those who commented don't feel bad, I know they meant no harm, but we shouldn't do it that way.

There are several people here with damaged/thinned hair for one reason or another... Should they feel judged?

I expected a monster of hair but her hair actually looks nice, even if it has some visible damage and thinning and is overall worse than her old hair. All the stuff she does to her scalp makes me cringe because my scalp is sensitive and would scream with dandruff and shedding. Sigh. Please girl's scalp, don't get irreversible damage.

I feel it's a very western/American thing that I don't understand: why do blondes often want to be much blonder? Softer shades of blonde are beautiful too. I notice that in Asia ashy and soft hair colors are very in fashion. I personally like that a lot.

[lilin]

Yeah, not really down with the singling out either... Truth is, she's done a fairly accurate portrayal of the kind of intensive regime you will likely need in order to keep such heavily processed and heated hair actually on your head, and she's done a killer job of making that happen. That really can't be argued. It's not only on her head, but quite long, and yes, the damage is visible, but her hair's pretty even and obviously well-tended and probably one of the better examples of this kind of styling that I've seen.

Would I be happy with that level of damage? No. But it really looks quite good considering everything she does to it.

And she's pointed out, also correctly, that some people's hair simply won't tolerate that. Mine won't. Even one straight dye for low-lights (no bleach) ruined my hair. Even henna has left it whining a little bit (though it's settling down reasonably well). And I actually have generally tolerant hair -- just not for that stuff.

I question what she means by "healthy," but her hair is certainly tough. No doubt about that.

She likes it. She'd gotten and maintained the length she wants. It fits her style.

Not what I'd pick, but then, it's not on my head. So who cares what I'd pick?

I really don't think she gave bad hair advice. She acknowledges that she hasn't chosen gentle hair care, and none of this is aimed at anyone who would choose that. It's aimed at other people who want this look.

And she didn't say wavy hair looks unkempt as some kind of blanket statement. She said she doesn't think her particular texture looks naturally kempt, which she says is somewhere between straight and wavy. She'd rather it just be one or the other. I think she's expecting natural hair to be a little more "organized" than it is, but she didn't say anything about anyone's hair but hers.

[McFearless]

She's pretty and I love her accent. She's lucky to have such long hair despite bleaching and flat ironing for years.

[Dreams_in_Pink]

Well, there are two kinds of hair regimes out there: One is LHC methods and the other is what she's describing. Both sides think the other side is doing wrong :D Some people convert, some don't. (i know women whose hair is badly wounded from all the hair dressing and still wouldn't change their habits.)

I like the other side though; if they didn't fry their hair, how would our hair shine out among them? ;)

[tigereye]

I couldn't help wondering if her natural hair might look less "unkempt" (according to her) or bothersome if she didn't bleach or straighten it so much. Each to their own, mind you.

[Dreams_in_Pink]

Judging from her "before" pic in the video, i'd say she has the shiny, M or F kind of hair (more likely M though, cause it endures so much damage). I don't think it could look anywhere near what we would call bothersome.

[Rosetta]

She's by no means a hair guru, but she's happy with her results and maintaining long bleached hair isn't that easy. :)


Well, yes, it's quite unnecessary... One thing is to vent about damaging routines, another thing is to pick on a specific person and their hair. I hope that OP and those who commented don't feel bad, I know they meant no harm, but we shouldn't do it that way.
I agree.
I do understand why someone can find that girl's video annoying, but really, like many said, her hair is not bad at all considering the things she does to it. ;)


I feel it's a very western/American thing that I don't understand: why do blondes often want to be much blonder? Softer shades of blonde are beautiful too.
Not just American, it's very, very common here, too. Only platinum or something close to it is really considered "properly blonde". Don't really know why...

Where's the thread we can post YT hair videos we like, btw? ;)

[KittyBird]

I think there's nothing wrong with her hair :shrug: No product can mask damage that well, so her hair obviously isn't very damaged. And even if it were, so what? It shouldn't be other people's problem if someone wants to straighten and dye/bleach their hair. I have more problem with these kinds of threads (unnecessary judging and bullying) than with her video.
I agree. I don't see why it's necessary to make a thread about this woman's routine. It's her hair, she can do whatever she wants, and she's clearly happy with it. I've seen many people here complain about being judged for their 'strange', 'unusual' and 'icky' hair routines, but being judgmental and mean to people who don't do the LHC-thing is apparently fine? :rolleyes: Maybe I'm being oversensitive, but I don't think this type of thread is particularly KNIT.

[julee]

Each to their own method of haircare. In the end, hair is just dead keratin so it doesn't really matter what someone does to it :)

I sometimes wish I could get away with flatironing my hair, but its so incredibly fine it just fries it :(. My old flatmate (who is of Asian heritage) had beautiful 1b C iii hair, hip length, very thick strong strands, and she was able to flat iron almost daily.

[Éowyn_GreyEyes]

WARNING: some ranting but an apology for those who were offended...

I feel like I was misunderstood through all of this. I specifically said IM NOT HATING ON HER HAIR in the first post for a reason. I just said I wouldn't do that to my hair. Sure it looks a little damaged but I agree with most of you, it looks fairly nice on her. I just didn't like the way she worded things (ie the straightening comment): whatever, personal opinion of mine.

I also agreed with meteor that it might be an interesting thread to see some "bad" (notice... That's another opinion) YouTube hair videos. BUT I also suggested we see some of peoples favourites too.

Anyway... I thought some of us might enjoy this spoof on "DIY hair treatments" hahaha

http://youtu.be/l0NOZgivpLc

[sarahthegemini]

God, I couldn't watch after 2 minutes. Just inane, misinformed..and her hair certainly is NOT THICK!!!!

And...? Why is it important whether or not her hair is thick according to you?

[arr]

Though I'm not necessarily into that style, i think shes done an amazing job making her hair look nice. It really affects me (though i know i shouldn't let it) when people make negative remarks about how i care for and wear my hair, so i try not to do the same. Hair can be a form of self expression and creativity so people should feel free to do whatever they need to do to achieve the look that they desire, and whether or not i personally like that look or the methods used to achieve it is irrelevant.

[Dreams_in_Pink]

I feel like I was misunderstood through all of this. I specifically said IM NOT HATING ON HER HAIR in the first post for a reason. I just said I wouldn't do that to my hair. Sure it looks a little damaged but I agree with most of you, it looks fairly nice on her. I just didn't like the way she worded things (ie the straightening comment): whatever, personal opinion of mine.


I know exactly how you feel; happened to me before. I start a thread to express a negative opinion and BOOM! :D

[jeanniet]

WARNING: some ranting but an apology for those who were offended...

I feel like I was misunderstood through all of this. I specifically said IM NOT HATING ON HER HAIR in the first post for a reason. I just said I wouldn't do that to my hair. Sure it looks a little damaged but I agree with most of you, it looks fairly nice on her. I just didn't like the way she worded things (ie the straightening comment): whatever, personal opinion of mine.

I also agreed with meteor that it might be an interesting thread to see some "bad" (notice... That's another opinion) YouTube hair videos. BUT I also suggested we see some of peoples favourites too.

Anyway... I thought some of us might enjoy this spoof on "DIY hair treatments" hahaha

http://youtu.be/l0NOZgivpLc

The problem with threads like these is that, even if the OP is fairly benign, they still tend to devolve into criticism and insults. If the shoe were on the other foot, we wouldn't like it, and to me that means it's better not to say it.

ETA: If you thought it looked nice, you might have said so rather than saying it didn't look great. That made a difference to the tone too.

[Johannah]

The problem with threads like these is that, even if the OP is fairly benign, they still tend to devolve into criticism and insults.

Yes, exactly this. There's nothing wrong with having a opinion on such videos - I would NEVER do what she does as well - but these threads always go wrong and the atmosphere becomes very tense.

Maybe we should make a thread about videos that fit in the LHC ideas: curls without heat, hairstyles etc. If it doesn't exist already.

[slynr]

OK... This is one I know I shouldn't comment on but here I go. What I don't understand is why a person is dog piled on and made to feel horrible if the make a thread that says "hey, this gets on my nerves". This is something we all say occasionally to our friends. All of a sudden a person is villified if they want to point out something in the negative. Seems like the p.c. people want to keep things so rainbow and butterfly that you can't have an honest opinion unless it is over the top complimentary.

Just had to be said. Video gets on op's nerves. Girl in video is lucky she still has hair on her head. I'm sure she is a very nice person. Post a YouTube video you open yourself up to kudos and criticism. Its really OK. I'm sure video girl could care less.

[Éowyn_GreyEyes]

I know exactly how you feel; happened to me before. I start a thread to express a negative opinion and BOOM! :D


The problem with threads like these is that, even if the OP is fairly benign, they still tend to devolve into criticism and insults. If the shoe were on the other foot, we wouldn't like it, and to me that means it's better not to say it.

ETA: If you thought it looked nice, you might have said so rather than saying it didn't look great. That made a difference to the tone too.


Yes, exactly this. There's nothing wrong with having a opinion on such videos - I would NEVER do what she does as well - but these threads always go wrong and the atmosphere becomes very tense.

Maybe we should make a thread about videos that fit in the LHC ideas: curls without heat, hairstyles etc. If it doesn't exist already.


OK... This is one I know I shouldn't comment on but here I go. What I don't understand is why a person is dog piled on and made to feel horrible if the make a thread that says "hey, this gets on my nerves". This is something we all say occasionally to our friends. All of a sudden a person is villified if they want to point out something in the negative. Seems like the p.c. people want to keep things so rainbow and butterfly that you can't have an honest opinion unless it is over the top complimentary.

Just had to be said. Video gets on op's nerves. Girl in video is lucky she still has hair on her head. I'm sure she is a very nice person. Post a YouTube video you open yourself up to kudos and criticism. Its really OK. I'm sure video girl could care less.

Thank you ladies. I realize the edit to clarify things may be blunt but hopefully it will get the right message across. I might have been offended by the comments made, but I more concerned that a thread would devoid into members arguing (not the correct word I'm looking for but the only one I can think of) with each other.

[lapushka]

I agree. I don't see why it's necessary to make a thread about this woman's routine. It's her hair, she can do whatever she wants, and she's clearly happy with it. I've seen many people here complain about being judged for their 'strange', 'unusual' and 'icky' hair routines, but being judgmental and mean to people who don't do the LHC-thing is apparently fine? :rolleyes: Maybe I'm being oversensitive, but I don't think this type of thread is particularly KNIT.

I fully agree with that. I think this thread is unnecessary.

[MsBubbles]

Bonding through negativity is an interesting thing:

http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/shared-dislikes-2011-4/

I have engaged in it, I'm trying not to do it any more, and if someone else does it somewhere like this, I guess I don't have to read it or join in. It's harder for me to deal with if it's right in front of me, in person (gossip, or talking badly about people behind their backs).

I personally wouldn't find a video like this one remotely interesting, but the girl's hair looks ok enough to me.

[meteor]

All of a sudden a person is villified if they want to point out something in the negative. Seems like the p.c. people want to keep things so rainbow and butterfly that you can't have an honest opinion unless it is over the top complimentary.

Just had to be said. Video gets on op's nerves. Girl in video is lucky she still has hair on her head. I'm sure she is a very nice person. Post a YouTube video you open yourself up to kudos and criticism. Its really OK. I'm sure video girl could care less.

You said this very well. :) I think it's extremely important to try to be as informative as possible (part of KNIT, btw), and that does include pointing out damaging practices. For example, before the LHC I didn't know that flat-ironing and Brazilian blow-outs were damaging, I actually believed that they were good for hair (thank goodness I was too lazy to do those!), because a hair-dresser said so! Honestly, if all I ever got from the LHC was "Your Mileage May Vary", I might be doing some pretty damaging stuff all the while wondering why I'm getting zero results.
It's pretty important to point out misinformation and bring it to attention so that people know what exactly they are doing to hair - on a hair forum, that's the least we can do.

Obviously, ad hominem remarks are not gracious at all. Hopefully, us grown-ups can criticize the technique/routine/advice without criticizing the person. :)


The worst hair practice I've seen on YT was flat-ironing hair as a way of teasing/back-combing, so going against the grain (from tip to root) with a flat-iron. This did create great volume, but probably at the price of damage (chipped cuticles) and tangles.
The second worst hair practice I've seen on YT was fluffing up a braid by holding a tiny section of the braid and pushing the rest of the braid upward to the roots. You can imagine the kinds of tangles this method entails. I believe this is significantly more damaging than "pancaking" braids.
Both videos were created by professional hairdressers, but I won't post the videos here (because, who knows, somebody might get offended :) ).

[LadyCelestina]

I clicked here for the drama 8)

What irks me is not as much her hair but how much effort she seems to put to it...Not for me - I cringe when I imagine having to constantly fuss with my hair to have it the way I want it and not as it naturally wants to grow.Though I've been there somewhat.

[jeanniet]

You said this very well. :) I think it's extremely important to try to be as informative as possible (part of KNIT, btw), and that does include pointing out damaging practices. For example, before the LHC I didn't know that flat-ironing and Brazilian blow-outs were damaging, I actually believed that they were good for hair (thank goodness I was too lazy to do those!), because a hair-dresser said so! Honestly, if all I ever got from the LHC was "Your Mileage May Vary", I might be doing some pretty damaging stuff all the while wondering why I'm getting zero results.
It's pretty important to point out misinformation and bring it to attention so that people know what exactly they are doing to hair - on a hair forum, that's the least we can do.

Obviously, ad hominem remarks are not gracious at all. Hopefully, us grown-ups can criticize the technique/routine/advice without criticizing the person. :)


The worst hair practice I've seen on YT was flat-ironing hair as a way of teasing/back-combing, so going against the grain (from tip to root) with a flat-iron. This did create great volume, but probably at the price of damage (chipped cuticles) and tangles.
The second worst hair practice I've seen on YT was fluffing up a braid by holding a tiny section of the braid and pushing the rest of the braid upward to the roots. You can imagine the kinds of tangles this method entails. I believe this is significantly more damaging than "pancaking" braids.
Both videos were created by professional hairdressers, but I won't post the videos here (because, who knows, somebody might get offended :) ).

Sadly, no, we can't. Not referring to the OP, but some reply posts were unkind, and that is how these kinds of threads always seem to go. This is also why I dislike the hair stylist rant threads--I've seen posts that talked about beating and stabbing a hair stylist for cutting. too. much. hair. Sure, it's hyperbole, but it's still not KNIT.

It's true that posting something publicly opens a person up to criticism, but that doesn't mean we have to criticize. There are ways to warn of damaging techniques without singling out individuals.

[LongHairLesbian]

I've seen this video before! I watch Lauren Curtis from time to time, I like how she is able to keep a video entertaining, while remaining professional and taking her topic (and viewers) seriously. Personally, I don't see any visible damage in her hair. I know that serums and straighteners can hide a lot, but they can't make seriously damaged hair look that good. I appreciated that she acknowledged that she is lucky and most likely genetically blessed to have bleached, heat styled hair that is able to grow long and still look nice. It's not always the easiest thing to hear, but it's the truth, and I think it's professional of her to provide an educated point of view, and not give young viewers weak or misguided advice. She knows she does damaging things to her hair, she knows that not everyone can get away with it, and she knows that she doesn't have any magical hair knowledge that will lead us all down the path to perfect hair if only we use the Macadamia Oil Deep Repair Masque. That's a lot better than some other youtube beauty gurus who try to give hair advice, when their advice really only works for people who have an easy time growing their hair long.

I posted a while back about a beauty video entitled "How to get soft, healthy hair", by a girl who colour treats, heat styles, washes with shampoo every day but conditions whenever she feels like it. She said she uses a serum, but only needs a little bit to detangle her thick, BCL hair. She's a lovely, beautiful girl and if that works for her, then that's great; her hair was obviously fine with it, considering how shiny and nice it looked. But that routine only works for people who are extremely lucky, who could do anything to their hair and still have it look nice; basically, people who don't need advice on how to grow their hair soft and healthy. That kind of bugs me a bit, because these beauty gurus have a lot of young viewers who are impressionable and genuinely don't know how to grow their hair long and healthy, and I feel that a lot of beauty gurus basically just explain whatever works for them and tell their viewers that that's how to get the long hair they are looking for. Again, nothing wrong with talking about what works for you, but don't tell your viewers that they shouldn't condition above the ears because "it will make your scalp too oily", when many people have a hair type that needs that moisture at their scalp. It might make (general) you oily, but conditioner at the scalp could be what someone else needs to have healthy hair.

[Nadine <3]

Personally, I think her hair looks great! I'm not going to lie, if I could get away with it I'd be over there heat styling my hair, but alas...my hair screams and dies if I do.

Who the heck cares what she does to her hair? If it bothers you turn it off, go find a video you like and leave the poor girl alone.

[Anje]

Mod hat on.

Folks, what do you say I just close this thread? Not because anyone has done anything wrong, but because this sort of thing tends to lead to a lot of piling on for the person discussed or for the person who brought it up. It can easily lead to hurt feelings all around, and I'd rather avoid that.

[KittyBird]

I think closing it is a good idea, Anje. :)

[Dreams_in_Pink]

Anje, i agree that this thread could be closed. I don't think lauren curtis read this but OP sure did read the replies and got hurt.

[LongHairLesbian]

You said this very well. :) I think it's extremely important to try to be as informative as possible (part of KNIT, btw), and that does include pointing out damaging practices. For example, before the LHC I didn't know that flat-ironing and Brazilian blow-outs were damaging, I actually believed that they were good for hair (thank goodness I was too lazy to do those!), because a hair-dresser said so! Honestly, if all I ever got from the LHC was "Your Mileage May Vary", I might be doing some pretty damaging stuff all the while wondering why I'm getting zero results.
It's pretty important to point out misinformation and bring it to attention so that people know what exactly they are doing to hair - on a hair forum, that's the least we can do.

Obviously, ad hominem remarks are not gracious at all. Hopefully, us grown-ups can criticize the technique/routine/advice without criticizing the person. :)


The worst hair practice I've seen on YT was flat-ironing hair as a way of teasing/back-combing, so going against the grain (from tip to root) with a flat-iron. This did create great volume, but probably at the price of damage (chipped cuticles) and tangles.
The second worst hair practice I've seen on YT was fluffing up a braid by holding a tiny section of the braid and pushing the rest of the braid upward to the roots. You can imagine the kinds of tangles this method entails. I believe this is significantly more damaging than "pancaking" braids.
Both videos were created by professional hairdressers, but I won't post the videos here (because, who knows, somebody might get offended :) ).

I really like this post. :) It's not slam against an individual or individuals to talk about the fact that youtube is rife with videos that promote misinformation and damaging hair practices. If those practices are enjoyed by particular individuals and they like the results they get, awesome! It's your hair, feel free to be creative and do whatever you like. But not everyone can get away with regular heat use/teasing/colouring/daily shampoo/brushing/whatever the heck those hair dressers were doing in the video meteor mentions, and that isn't talked about enough on these youtube beauty videos.

Misguided advice that I've heard? One beauty guru with TBL hair said that "if you want to use heat, it's not a big deal, just use a heat protectant". Using heat isn't bad, and clearly her hair can handle heat being put on it from time to time. But it's an example of someone thinking that just because something isn't noticeably damaging to their hair, it must not be noticeably damaging to anyone's hair! And that's... not good. I also watched a video where a girl said that gentle combing takes too long and isn't worth it, brushing wet hair isn't that bad anyway. Again, it might be fine for her, but wet (and non-gentle dry) brushing can seriously wreck someone else's hair. I know for a fact that it wrecks mine, which makes my hair more tangly in the long run, lol vicious cycles.

[martyna_22]

^ I agree as well. She is clearly happy with her hair, and she enjoys it the way it is, probably more than she'd ever enjoy all-natural longer hair with not pin-straight texture. People probably asked what she does to her hair to make it this way, so she shared an opinion, she does not say "you HAVE TO do everything I do", or at least I didn't think she was intent on "converting" people to her routine.
And I say so be it. It's her choice, and her hair doesn't seem damaged. And even if it did? It'd still be her choice.

[Anje]

I'm closing it, folks. I think the discussion has served its purpose.

Have a nice day and enjoy your hair!