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MeowScat
July 28th, 2014, 07:44 PM
Very interesting! I think I would only use it on my ends, unless my hair was short. I wonder how long before its available to the public, I'd buy one! :)


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2708586/The-end-hair-dye-Device-similar-hair-straighteners-one-day-change-hair-colour-INSTANTLY-without-chemicals.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2708586/The-end-hair-dye-Device-similar-hair-straighteners-one-day-change-hair-colour-INSTANTLY-without-chemicals.html)

meteor
July 28th, 2014, 07:53 PM
Wow! This is EXCITING news! Thanks so much for sharing! :D
One of my major hair dreams is for us to have new (non-damaging) technology for changing hair color! :D
I really wonder if it's damaging or not.

kpzra
July 28th, 2014, 07:56 PM
Wow! This is EXCITING news! Thanks so much for sharing! :D
One of my major hair dreams is for us to have new (non-damaging) technology for changing hair color! :D
I really wonder if it's damaging or not.

Since it's etching your hair I'm betting yes. Since it's permanent you better like the color you choose. :lol:

meteor
July 28th, 2014, 08:04 PM
Since it's etching your hair I'm betting yes. Since it's permanent you better like the color you choose. :lol:

"The other idea...is to actually develop some kind of conditioner - some kind of polymer coating for your hair.

‘Then when you do the patterning with your flat iron that’s specially developed for this polymer coating - maybe low heat - then you could actually pattern the conditioner or the polymer on your hair.

‘And then it would easily wash out if you wanted it to go away, so that’s not as permanent and as scary.’"

That option doesn't sound too damaging though? I'd love to see research into this!

MINAKO
July 28th, 2014, 08:07 PM
Interesting, but that's not gonna happen! They won'tmake money this way, so the industry will prevent that.
And yepp, uhmmm "etching" doesnt exactly sound hair friendly, also how is it gonna look the second time??? People would probably end upwith swiss cheese hair anyways.

kganihanova
July 28th, 2014, 09:32 PM
That sounds really cool :) I'd go for it.

lilin
July 28th, 2014, 09:47 PM
Interesting. Like others, I would suspect this wouldn't be damage-free -- it might not be so bad if it presses the cuticles in such a way that they will continue to stay quite flat, rather than pressing right through them or breaking them off, but probably not damage-free. But more damaging than dye? I can certainly imagine how it might not be, especially for dark haired people who often have to bleach, sometimes repeatedly, in order to get to their desired color.

The polymer idea does sound interesting. Kind of like a less messy alternative to hair chalk.

At any rate, it is interesting, especially with all the applications it could have.

MINAKO
July 28th, 2014, 10:03 PM
I think the "sample" that they have included there looks pretty much like a thin coating of holographic nailpolish. Not that i would seriously get how this ride to wavelength relation comes together but i doubt it would be a bright and rich color comparable to lets say henna. The implication that it works "best" on brown hair also kinda sounds as if it doesn't work for blonde, red or black at all

meteor
July 28th, 2014, 10:47 PM
I think the "sample" that they have included there looks pretty much like a thin coating of holographic nailpolish. Not that i would seriously get how this ride to wavelength relation comes together but i doubt it would be a bright and rich color comparable to lets say henna. The implication that it works "best" on brown hair also kinda sounds as if it doesn't work for blonde, red or black at all

Yeah, I've wondered about why they need the brown base, too. I've got more questions than answers myself from reading that article! Has anybody read the original work by Bruce Lamartine and Zayd Leseman that the article is referring to? I'm definitely very intrigued. :)

Firefox7275
July 29th, 2014, 04:24 AM
I would totally be down for rainbow hair without too much damage.

jacqueline101
July 29th, 2014, 04:35 AM
I think the idea is neat but I'd never try to use heat to dye my hair.

fiðrildi
July 29th, 2014, 04:36 AM
Oh, wow! This is so interesting. I would like to see how it works, but I think I wouldn't buy it myself. I don't like how the "etching" thing sounds, either. I guess we'll have to wait a few years until we can clear up doubts :wink:

NatNat
July 29th, 2014, 12:36 PM
I would definitely wait a few years of this being on the market before I try it, so they can "iron" out the kinks ;) so to speak haha

tetisheri72
July 29th, 2014, 12:42 PM
Hmmm... This could really exciting, if it's done right. Otherwise, I would worry about my hair. But, rainbow hair would be cool.

mz_butterfly
July 29th, 2014, 01:37 PM
It doesn't actually change hair color, it says:

Engineers at the University of New Mexico and Los Alamos National Laboratories are using focused ion beam technologies to change hair colour...........They have proved that tiny spiral patterns etched into strands of brown hair can reflect the light in a certain way to change the hair's colour.

Technology could be included in a device like a flat iron, allowing people to change their hair colour without using chemicals.

Basically, cutting into the hair (think facets on gemstones) causes these etchings to reflect light. That is just like taking a diamond ring and moving it back and forth and seeing it shine or shimmer. It seems like it would be kind of holographic, simply catching light and making the hair appear to be a different color.

I think that cutting into your hair is going to damage it, imagine taking a razor and making tiny slices in your hair from one end to the other. How long do you think it's going to take for your hair to break off with those cuts? Not long at all. I foresee many people suing the company for causing their hair to break off at the last point they etched it at.

tetisheri72
July 29th, 2014, 01:48 PM
Yeah, that sounds like it would be damaging.

meteor
July 29th, 2014, 01:56 PM
It doesn't actually change hair color, it says:

Engineers at the University of New Mexico and Los Alamos National Laboratories are using focused ion beam technologies to change hair colour...........They have proved that tiny spiral patterns etched into strands of brown hair can reflect the light in a certain way to change the hair's colour.

Technology could be included in a device like a flat iron, allowing people to change their hair colour without using chemicals.

Basically, cutting into the hair (think facets on gemstones) causes these etchings to reflect light. That is just like taking a diamond ring and moving it back and forth and seeing it shine or shimmer. It seems like it would be kind of holographic, simply catching light and making the hair appear to be a different color.

I think that cutting into your hair is going to damage it, imagine taking a razor and making tiny slices in your hair from one end to the other. How long do you think it's going to take for your hair to break off with those cuts? Not long at all. I foresee many people suing the company for causing their hair to break off at the last point they etched it at.

I agree! :) But what if they work on this technology more and create a polymer-based conditioner that adds a layer for that "hologram" to reflect light differently, rather than "cutting slices off hair". I think that avenue was suggested in the article too, and it would seem potentially a lot less damaging...

Either way, great stuff and I hope they'll keep working on it! :D

MINAKO
July 29th, 2014, 02:10 PM
I'm still curious about this, but even if it would work i'd never try. Hair reflecting like a laser disc, ugh, nope... i really love my black! ;)

eva888
July 29th, 2014, 02:15 PM
I wish this was for real but that website is a tabloid website. I've read a lot of untrue articles on there from links on Facebook etc.

meteor
July 29th, 2014, 02:56 PM
Here is the original paper: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_url?hl=en&q=http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperDownload.aspx%3FpaperID%3D46388&sa=X&scisig=AAGBfm3O5c1mVjW_cBzq0StOcipRBy1eRQ&oi=scholaralrt
Journal of Cosmetics, Dermatological Sciences and Applications, 2014, 4, 173-178
Published Online June 2014 in SciRes. http://www.scirp.org/journal/jcdsa
http://dx.doi.org/10.4236/jcdsa.2014.43024

eva888
July 30th, 2014, 07:37 AM
Here is the original paper: http://scholar.google.com/scholar_url?hl=en&q=http://www.scirp.org/journal/PaperDownload.aspx%3FpaperID%3D46388&sa=X&scisig=AAGBfm3O5c1mVjW_cBzq0StOcipRBy1eRQ&oi=scholaralrt
Journal of Cosmetics, Dermatological Sciences and Applications, 2014, 4, 173-178
Published Online June 2014 in SciRes. http://www.scirp.org/journal/jcdsa
http://dx.doi.org/10.4236/jcdsa.2014.43024

Touché! Maybe it is real after all! :)

meteor
July 30th, 2014, 11:49 AM
Touché! Maybe it is real after all! :)

Yes, I think it's real, but it's just too early stage to figure out how the hair will look in practice and the long-term repercussions (damage). It would be great for people who need to dye hair but can't handle the chemicals (allergies, pregnancies, etc.)

The original article does have many references that might be of help... but it's still clearly at a very early stage.

RileyJane
July 30th, 2014, 12:42 PM
Still waiting for my magic pill that can change my hair color whenever i want without any damage.... :)

MINAKO
February 14th, 2015, 12:23 AM
i just remebered this terrible device and was wondering if there are any news on it. not that i would be interested in using it, lol, but im curious. couldnt find anything recent tho.

Sarahlabyrinth
February 14th, 2015, 03:01 AM
I reckon it could damage the cuticle - and that would be permanent....

hanne jensen
February 14th, 2015, 05:56 AM
Sounds like something out of Star Trek to me.

betterhairday
February 16th, 2015, 04:19 AM
Very interesting! I think I would only use it on my ends, unless my hair was short. I wonder how long before its available to the public, I'd buy one! :)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2708586/The-end-hair-dye-Device-similar-hair-straighteners-one-day-change-hair-colour-INSTANTLY-without-chemicals.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2708586/The-end-hair-dye-Device-similar-hair-straighteners-one-day-change-hair-colour-INSTANTLY-without-chemicals.html)

Very interesting but I do it now with hair chalk!