Your favourite historical hair?

[aforestfae]

I was wondering what everyone's favourite historical or historical inspired hairstyles were,
I love the hair below and want to recreate this kind of look but have no idea how
http://ritratti.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/lady-emma-hamilton-george-romney.jpg?w=477

http://elysesnow.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/vigeelebrun.jpg?w=584

I also love Edwardian hair :)

[Sharysa]

Medieval style like Game of Thrones hair, Golden-Age Hollywood, Wild West/Civil War era, WWII era, and film noir styles, Renaissance, and Edwardian styles.

Basically, I can find nice parts about nearly any hairstyle era. XD

As for the painting recreations, keep in mind that some painters exaggerate certain styles. That level of volume is very rare without teasing or hair-pieces.

[Alaska98]

I love the finger wave styles of the 20's. I'd never wear them, though. I don't like goop in my hair.

[Loviatar]

Gibson girls.

http://chat-rousse.livejournal.com/1662.html

I will be making a rat so I can do this when I get a bit more length. I love this style but no back combing for me!

[Fiachain]

The classic Veronica Lake hairstyle, the long soft waves that always fall just so...

[aforestfae]

Gibson girls.

http://chat-rousse.livejournal.com/1662.html

I will be making a rat so I can do this when I get a bit more length. I love this style but no back combing for me!

I love Gibson girl hair! so pretty, but I can never get my hair to stay up it just slips down.
:hmm:rats might work for the pictures I posted too...


Medieval style like Game of Thrones hair, Golden-Age Hollywood, Wild West/Civil War era, WWII era, and film noir styles, Renaissance, and Edwardian styles.

Basically, I can find nice parts about nearly any hairstyle era. XD

As for the painting recreations, keep in mind that some painters exaggerate certain styles. That level of volume is very rare without teasing or hair-pieces.

Good point, I could use hair rats but I have no idea how, i guess the scarf would help with volume too...

Game of thrones hair is so pretty :)

[Johannah]

Gibson girls.

http://chat-rousse.livejournal.com/1662.html

I will be making a rat so I can do this when I get a bit more length. I love this style but no back combing for me!

I agree! :D

[Alaska98]

OK, what's a rat?

[meteor]

OK, what's a rat?

It's like a padding for bulkier hairstyles. Traditionally hair rats were made from shed hair - a popular practice in Victorian times.
They can have different shapes and forms, often like thick sticks (for example, for victory rolls) or circles (for sock buns).
Examples:
http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/140/e/AAAAAs8hTM0AAAAAAUDihA.jpg?v=1220236740000


Basically, I can find nice parts about nearly any hairstyle era.

This!^

I love everything braided, so I find that I gravitate toward Vikings braided styles and Native American braids as some of my favorites. I like how they tend to be simple and secure. I really doubt that a lot of recreations I see (especially of the Vikings or Medieval times) are accurate, but I love them regardless.
I really like hair styles from Ancient Egypt, but I'm sure I wouldn't be able to recreate those.

[gossamer]

I really like the Elling woman bun. :D

[AmyBeth]

Of course the Empress Elisabeth of Austria. Although I love Varvara Rimsky-Korsakov, who is pictured in my avatar.

[GrowingOut]

Empress Elizabeth of Austria-Hungary :thud: She's everything I want my hair to be! :D

[chen bao jun]

My current favorite is Empress Sissi too after the recent thread on her and Seeshami's video. I just admire, however, I would never hope to duplicate, with a totally different hairtype, even if it was possible for me to grow my hair to the floor and have a personal hairdresser who used to work in the theatre willing to work on me three hours every day. (and put up with obsessive compulsiveness about losing even a single hair). I would like to try her special shampooing treatment of eggs and brandy.)
My hair poufs a lot besides being very thick, I can do victory rolls and Edwardian type hairstyles already (at bra strap) without any rats or enhancements, I should make that into my favorite period. I guess everybody has a period suited to their hair type. the 80's also worked well for me with the demand then for BIG hair but then it got to be the 90's with the straight flat look and I was in the toilet.
I also love the Roman hairstyles. That hairdresser recreator, Janet Stephens has one on empress Faustina that I would just to try to replicate when the hair gets longer, it involves cornrows with loops hanging off and twists and very complicated other braids, so intricate and interesting. I did notice that roman and greek hairstyles look great for curlies and egyptian look very good for hypercurlies (though of course Egyptians lived in wigs, who knows what their hair was really like under them).

[Panth]

This:

http://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/md/web-large/DT135.jpg

Unfortunately, my hair is TOO LONG. (You'd only hear that here, right? ;P)

[queenovnight]

I don't have a specific favorite hairstyle -far too many to choose from- but I often admire the styles (and evolution) of women's hair throughout history.


This was my favorite hair throughout history though. The Sutherland sisters had incredible hair. - Techinally it was a style! xD (Soon after, long hair lost it's popularity and the shorter styles came in)

http://i59.tinypic.com/e7cxzo.jpg

[Aurum]

I have to agree about Empress Elisabeth -- she has some of the most gorgeous hair I have ever seen. It's a big plus that I'm Hungarian and currently researching my roots/culture from that country.

queenovnight, I was just coming to mention hair like that. I recently found a picture in an old scrapbook of a great/great/whatever grandmother of mine who had super long hair. I thought it was amazing when I came across it and I'll have to find the pic again.

[Jennwith4]

I was wondering what everyone's favourite historical or historical inspired hairstyles were,
I love the hair below and want to recreate this kind of look but have no idea how
http://ritratti.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/lady-emma-hamilton-george-romney.jpg?w=477
http://elysesnow.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/vigeelebrun.jpg?w=584

I also love Edwardian hair :)

I'd love to recreate the2nd pic.

[chen bao jun]

very nice. country? date?

This:

http://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/md/web-large/DT135.jpg

Unfortunately, my hair is TOO LONG. (You'd only hear that here, right? ;P)

ETA:

Faustine the Younger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_HPjg-f8iQ

The Romney portraits the OP posted probably feature these papillote curls--but they are damaging.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP9PJsY5__4

[Remi]

Historical hair or hysterical hair? ;) Mine is the latter. Sorry, couldn't resist. I love that old photo of the Sutherland sisters; their biographies are interesting.
I don't have a specific favorite hairstyle -far too many to choose from- but I often admire the styles (and evolution) of women's hair throughout history.


This was my favorite hair throughout history though. The Sutherland sisters had incredible hair. - Techinally it was a style! xD (Soon after, long hair lost it's popularity and the shorter styles came in)

http://i59.tinypic.com/e7cxzo.jpg

[dazeydayze]

Of course Venus
http://uncgbls.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/1280px-the_birth_of_venus_botticelli_detail.jpg
and everything Edwardian
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8gda0K66f1rs79hco1_500.jpg
and let's not forget, Rita Hayworth's famous hair flip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUQvITehr34

[Nimia]

I've always had a peculiar fondness for this style from the early 17th century -- top hair pulled back in a bun, the rest of the hair left in curls:

http://www.gogmsite.net/_Media/1642_princess_louise_hollan.jpg

Here's an article about the style being somewhat repeated in the 1830s:

http://thepragmaticcostumer.wordpress.com/2012/08/02/what-goes-around-comes-around-1620-1650s-and-1830-1840s-fashion/

[Dragon Faery]

Ooh excellent thread! Edwardian and Victorian hairstles for me, but I love a wide variety of things. Updos in general, I guess. I like a lot of the stick buns that ladies on this forum come up with, as well.

[Madora]

Another vote for Empress Elisabeth of Austria, my hair idol:
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w225/07Erzbet/7214SisiQofHbraided.jpg (http://s177.photobucket.com/user/07Erzbet/media/7214SisiQofHbraided.jpg.html)

[Panth]

very nice. country? date?

That particular one is what remains of the effigy of Marie de France (http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/467705), a French princess who died in 1341. However, variations on that style (with or without veils) are found from about the 1310s up til about the 1380s, and in France, England and Scandinavia.

The mid-14th Century is my favourite, for hair and costume.

[Madora]

If you're in to historic hairstyling, check out these 2 beautiful reliquary busts with interesting braided hair: http://medieval-illumination.blogspot.com/2012/11/reliquary-busts.html

[Nimia]

I also love any of the crazy, imaginative braid arrangements in Botticelli paintings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Sandro_Botticelli#mediaviewer/File:Sandro_Botticelli_066.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Sandro_Botticelli#mediaviewer/File:Sandro_Botticelli_-_weiBliches_Brustbild.png

The three graces in "Primavera":
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-98ICdl8Jrzo/UFWfaTQfe9I/AAAAAAAABso/0depYkjQdpo/s1600/1478_Primavera_d1_three_graces.jpg

Venus in "Mars & Venus":
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xqhq_GLOroY/T4snS-jUpiI/AAAAAAAAFzw/fiW0R6bM1tg/s1600/Venus+and+Mars.jpg

[aforestfae]

I also love any of the crazy, imaginative braid arrangements in Botticelli paintings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Sandro_Botticelli#mediaviewer/File:Sandro_Botticelli_066.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_works_by_Sandro_Botticelli#mediaviewer/File:Sandro_Botticelli_-_weiBliches_Brustbild.png

The three graces in "Primavera":
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-98ICdl8Jrzo/UFWfaTQfe9I/AAAAAAAABso/0depYkjQdpo/s1600/1478_Primavera_d1_three_graces.jpg

Venus in "Mars & Venus":
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xqhq_GLOroY/T4snS-jUpiI/AAAAAAAAFzw/fiW0R6bM1tg/s1600/Venus+and+Mars.jpg

Those hairstyles are amazing :)

[jacqueline101]

The classic Veronica Lake hairstyle, the long soft waves that always fall just so...

I like her hair and the page boy. I love those two styles.

[StellaKatherine]

Another vote for Empress Elisabeth of Austria, my hair idol:
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w225/07Erzbet/7214SisiQofHbraided.jpg (http://s177.photobucket.com/user/07Erzbet/media/7214SisiQofHbraided.jpg.html)


OOOmng , I want that hairstyle!!!!!!!!! :inlove:

[SwordWomanRiona]

Medieval and Renaissance (with no head coverings involved) and Celtic and Viking. Anything with intricate braiding, basically, either as half-ups or as updos :). I also like Regency hairstyles and ancient Greek and Roman updos.

[Panth]

If you're in to historic hairstyling, check out these 2 beautiful reliquary busts with interesting braided hair: http://medieval-illumination.blogspot.com/2012/11/reliquary-busts.html

Oh, yes. I've seen those before and they are quite fun (though rather impractical, I guess...).

[MINAKO]

http://res.xdcdn.net/game/xxd/files/2014/06/2014061811452737782.jpg

This would be enough for me. I'm not talented when it comes to braiding, too impantient to try and distrust other people to do so, so there ain't much offancy work left for me to get done, hahaha.

[peachyleshy]

The classic Veronica Lake hairstyle, the long soft waves that always fall just so...

Me too. I love the 40's style.

[MultiCultiCurly]

For me, the shorter list is what hairstyles/historic hair periods I don't like! And that would pretty much be hair from the late 60's to the 90's, pretty much worldwide. Hair creativity seems to be at it's best in times long past, and I adore everything from Europe's Medieval and Enlightenment periods to America's Victorian and Edwardian periods and the recent vintage of American hairstyling from the 1920's to the early 1960's :-)

[meteor]

If you're in to historic hairstyling, check out these 2 beautiful reliquary busts with interesting braided hair: http://medieval-illumination.blogspot.com/2012/11/reliquary-busts.html

Wow! That's so gorgeous! I really want that style!

Ignoring the little headband/tiara thingy in the front, is it just based on 4 English braids?
1) Two braids at the nape/back left to hang.
2) Two braids folded on top "milkmaid-braid" style, but because the braids are long, there is this overhang over the ear before each braid is pinned on the other side behind the other ear.
I think it's just long milkmaid braids because I can see that characteristic criss-cross happening at the top of her head.
Is this correct? Or am I missing something?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pQusDhKHJMI/UJwuQRvbSKI/AAAAAAAABwU/k-sf0-TU5hE/s320/Picture+9.png

[Madora]

I think you're right, Meteor..4 braids...but there might be a braided bun in back. Wish there had been pix of the back of her head.

link to side view (scroll down a little):

http://thedreamstress.com/2011/12/saints-heads/

link to back of bust: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wCDthk0-5GU/T5WMKg0iONI/AAAAAAAAEdU/Lgnp5aS7EJw/s1600/hb_67.155.23_av1.jpg

[Panth]

Here's the Met's actual page (http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/471844?rpp=30&pg=1&ft=reliquary%2Bbust&pos=2&imgNo=3&tabName=gallery-label) for the reliquary bust. There's 8 images there, from all sides.

From that, it seems to me like there is:
- hair divided into thirds
- front third on left and right are tied into a loose ponytail at about the top of the cheekbones
- these ponytails are then plaited in a regular English plait
- each is laid over the top of the head in the manner of an Alice band and left to hang down in front of the ear on the opposite side of the face (enough length is left on the original side to provide a little loop)
- the remaining back third of the hair is in some weird twist that I don't know how it's made and sticks out the back of the cap

So, yes, it's essentially very, very long milkmaid braids that are left to dangle (and that are not done very tight, so you get the loop at the start).

The headband/tiara thingy is actually a cap with decoration that includes a narrow, folded veil that falls back over the crown from the centre front. You can see a tiny bit of her hairline at the front.

Edit: actually, there's several busts all with very, very similar hairstyles. St. Balbina (http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/468720?rpp=30&pg=1&ft=reliquary+bust&pos=3), an unknown female saint (http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/471844?rpp=30&pg=1&ft=reliquary+bust&pos=2), companion of St. Ursula (http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/193612?rpp=30&pg=1&ft=reliquary+bust&pos=8) and another unknown female saint (http://www.metmuseum.org/collection/the-collection-online/search/471996?rpp=30&pg=1&ft=reliquary+bust&pos=11).

Edit 2: Janet Stephens did have a go at replicating this hairstyle here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJj_O7pDgYw).

[Panth]

Here's another similar one (http://libbyteal10.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/art-communion-reliquary-bust.html), with a slightly different hairstyle.

There, it looks like some of the hair is split in half and an English plait is made on each side at about ear or just behind the ear. These plaits are loosely looped backwards, tucked through the back of the cap and left to drape next to each other down the back. (A little bit of hair at the front (in front of her ears) is kept out of the plaits, to flow loose over her shoulders. Much of the hair at the back of the head is also left loose, flowing out of the bottom of the cap and down the back.)

And another one (http://www.musee-moyenage.fr/collection/oeuvre/sainte-marie-madeleine.html) with weird, draped plaits.

Interestingly, I can't think of any hair styles on real 16th Century women (e.g. in portraiture) that look anything like these reliquary styles. Perhaps they were symbolic? They certainly aren't practical.

[meteor]

Thank you so very much, Madora and Panth! This is really, really helpful! :D
As soon as I saw additional pictures I realized that the whole frontal area is done with only 2 braids... which explains why the braids left hanging in the front appeared so "short" by Medieval standards: it's the very same braids that go over the head! I'll need to wait a long time till I can do that! However, the smaller sections one takes for the frontal 2 braids, the more length one can get, so I guess it's doable around classic or even shorter? The back area is a mystery to me. Maybe it's a simple rope braid with some ribbon(s) added? But then, I'm really confused why it's so short, especially compared to the other 2 braids. :confused:

[Panth]

meteor - some of the other effigys, e.g. this one (http://upliketoast.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/reliquary-bust-of-saint-balbina-ca.html), have the back twist being coloured which suggests it may not be hair at all but fabric attached to the cap. As for its length, well - all of the plaits in all of the effigies stop with a very short tassel just before the base of the effigy. So, I suggest it's not that it's realistic (indeed, all of the effigy hairstyles don't appear to be "realistic" hairstyles that are seen in any other contexts, on real women) and the tassels are all put just at the base of the effigy regardless of how long the plait really would be, as without the tassel it doesn't "look like a proper plait".

I'm pretty sure I have the length (and colour!) to do these styles. However, I certainly don't have the thickness or the lack of taper...

[torrilin]

I did notice that roman and greek hairstyles look great for curlies and egyptian look very good for hypercurlies (though of course Egyptians lived in wigs, who knows what their hair was really like under them).

I haven't gotten all the way through it, but it seems that the average Egyptian idealized hair very much in the super-curly range, at least according to The Search for Nefertiti (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/search-for-nefertiti-joann-fletcher/1103850306?ean=9780062106360). I haven't tackled the bibliography yet either (surprise surprise when I haven't finished the book), but the textiles work seems to accord pretty well with state of the art... no making out like fabric was an unimportant industry. While I'm not sure I'd give it 5 stars, it's pretty accessible if you like archeology or paleontology. I know textiles way better than I know historic hair tho, and Egyptology can be really massively racialized. That makes it harder for me to check out sources without reading the whole damn thing.

There is some mention of prehistoric hairstyling and hair techniques in Elizabeth Wayland Barber's Prehistoric Textiles (http://press.princeton.edu/titles/4816.html). There are much briefer mentions in Women's Work: the first 10,000 years (http://books.wwnorton.com/books/978-0-393-31348-2/). It's a popularization of the first book, so it's less squarely aimed at spinners and weavers with an archeology ******. (if you do spin or weave and scream at anything in the popularization, read the original... very few of the scream worthy bits are actually scream worthy when given full citations.)

For Georgian hair, I swear I have seen some recreations by actual longhairs, possibly with the chemise a la reine gathering at Costume College in 2007 or for recreations related to the Marie Antoinette movie. But I'm apparently failing on search terms today, which makes it a bit hard to track down the primary source hairstyling manual. The summary was USE RATS to avoid teasing, and have at least tailbone length hair. iii thickness helped tons. Going much past classic for length was unnecessary. Even if you've got classic length iii hair, chances are you'll need some rats or hair pieces. Those of us with less thickness will need more, but from what I recall from the extant manuals, that was a reality in period too. No one got away without.

Going back to primary source hairstyling manuals can often be really helpful, if you can find them. It's quite doable for 1950s hair, and you can sometimes find scans for manuals from 1900-1920 online since they're out of copyright.

[gossamer]

Reviving this thread to post inspiration I saw at the museum last week!

http://i.imgur.com/Tp6H7Q5.jpg

[Cg]

Many of the styles mentioned here use multiple rats. Ladies made them from their own shed hair in different sizes and shapes from long rolls to small balls.

Plus ladies in prior centuries did not shampoo or condition. They relied heavily on daily brushing to evenly distribute sebum, which made it easier for their styles to hold with only a few pins.

[celtic]

hi, i loved the games of thrones hair, also the mists of avalon hairstyles, love medieval and dark age long hair.

[florenonite]

I really love the hairstyles worn by Dr Grace in seasons 7/8 of Murdoch Mysteries, so right at the start of the Edwardian era, before the Gibson Girl look became big (though Emily's general style seems something of a Gibson Girl forerunner).

Links:

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/murdochmysteries/images/c/c6/Grace_main2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141011005050

https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F236x%2F2f%2Fa2%2F56%2F2fa256e1e1d ad01cf2b2d1295139728b.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F 441493569697619680%2F&docid=ez_TUn7b20wM-M&tbnid=Xiy5_bonsQ7t-M%3A&w=236&h=236&bih=512&biw=360&ved=0ahUKEwi8_dir7ojOAhVoKMAKHY0JBWgQMwgdKAEwAQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1091909/mediaviewer/rm4149875200

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1091909/mediaviewer/rm3898216960

I think my current length is pretty close to Georgina Reilly's in those pictures, so I'd love to try and replicate it, but I've no idea how to get that gentle volume at the front. Any thoughts?

[Lysanto]

I really love the hairstyles worn by Dr Grace in seasons 7/8 of Murdoch Mysteries, so right at the start of the Edwardian era, before the Gibson Girl look became big (though Emily's general style seems something of a Gibson Girl forerunner).

Links:

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/murdochmysteries/images/c/c6/Grace_main2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141011005050

https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fs-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com%2F236x%2F2f%2Fa2%2F56%2F2fa256e1e1d ad01cf2b2d1295139728b.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F 441493569697619680%2F&docid=ez_TUn7b20wM-M&tbnid=Xiy5_bonsQ7t-M%3A&w=236&h=236&bih=512&biw=360&ved=0ahUKEwi8_dir7ojOAhVoKMAKHY0JBWgQMwgdKAEwAQ&iact=mrc&uact=8

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1091909/mediaviewer/rm4149875200

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1091909/mediaviewer/rm3898216960

I think my current length is pretty close to Georgina Reilly's in those pictures, so I'd love to try and replicate it, but I've no idea how to get that gentle volume at the front. Any thoughts?

That is also my favorite! And I have the same problem with the front pouf.. Sometimes the volume is just there when I put it up, but that is rarely... I don't like to tease it.

Some time ago, I saw a tutorial on how to make a pouf without teasing; unfortunately I cannot find the link!
The girl took the front part of her hair (from the ears up) and made a braid with that. She then tucked the braid underneath the top to make a pouf. It look beautifull, but I couldn't recreate it.. My hair was too long (I am at classic length now) But maybe you can!

Hope this helps..:)

[OhSuzi]

Oh my gosh I Love Love Love 17th C hair - in the UK there is a programme that's just been on called 'Versailles', about Louis the XIV of France. Every one has ridiculously beautiful long glossy wavy hair. All the men look super hot with this style & various pointy moustachio goatee facial hair styles and the women have equally long curly hair piled on top of their heads with curly fronds cascading down framing their face it's just gorgeous - as soon as my hair is long enough (in about 3 years time) I'm going for this look!

http://digitalspyuk.cdnds.net/16/22/980x490/landscape-1464799101-10613835-low-res-versailles.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRILgAeX4HJI6V2E5QpKLkqtaYQ736QP pAroW-rR0QrkZVPlsJr

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/tv/2016/05/23/Versailles_1-large_trans++eo_i_u9APj8RuoebjoAHt0k9u7HhRJvuo-ZLenGRumA.jpg


I really hope I have added those links correctly & done it all by the book! :/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/tv/2016/05/23/Versailles_1-large_trans++eo_i_u9APj8RuoebjoAHt0k9u7HhRJvuo-ZLenGRumA.jpg

[OhSuzi]

....and that one

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/52/db/ac/52dbacd7651c3de6c2b1f46aa550a66f.jpg


Also 18th century although it was all mainly wigs - who doesn't want a 40 inch white beehive with a full galeon with feathers and exploding canons in their hair???
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/20/05/aa/2005aa0daa807bff7d88a20763dac56a.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/8f/c7/6c/8fc76c87a35c2bacad81e314123633a8.jpg