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bunzfan
March 14th, 2014, 12:06 PM
Hey guys,

I was just wondering what buns hold the best for you when your hair is particularly soft and slippery i er.. over did a treatment the other day and this morning my hair all but slid out of all buns but, the orchid bun stayed :cool: this bun is awesome it stayed all day considering my hair is as soft as silk and left me with pretty waves when i took it down.

So, what do you rely on when your hair is like this i need some inspiration i don't want to shampoo the cones out just yet i only clarified last week and i'm pretty much co wash only.

arr
March 14th, 2014, 12:13 PM
I had the same thing happen. Usually im no silicone but i did the clairol radiance translucent color gloss recently and my hair became so slippery my usual lazy wrap wouldnt stay. Some kind of braided bun is the best bet for me under these circumstances, or a disk bun, but if all else fails i just do a french braid.

meteor
March 14th, 2014, 12:17 PM
Gibraltar bun is supposedly named that way because it holds like a rock.

I like all braided buns for superb hold, especially if you start close to scalp or use a French/Dutch braid(s) as the base.

Sectioning buns or using accent braids prior to bunning helps too - it creates more grip and more loops through which to weave your hair toys.

oatmealpie
March 14th, 2014, 12:23 PM
When my hair is super slippery, the only bun that holds consistently is a flipped bun with a Ficcare.

meteor
March 14th, 2014, 01:17 PM
Also, have you tried this pinless bun? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7-vQ4uI_K0, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N08Ikn5lcyA
It's kind of like a cinnabun flipped under a strand of hair and looking a bit like a French twist. I think it's super secure if you actually use hair toys to hold it.

browneyedsusan
March 14th, 2014, 01:24 PM
My hair is slippery too, and a disc bun holds best.
I'm only APL, and too short for many bun styles yet! :)
French and dutch braids loosen considerably during the day. Paranda(i?) help them grip a little better.

Stiria
March 14th, 2014, 01:40 PM
Any braided bun usually works well, and interlaced braids holds like nothing else. If I need a quick solution I go for a hypno bun.

Wildcat Diva
March 14th, 2014, 01:41 PM
I was gonna come on here and say orchid bun, but I see you already tried and liked it LOL. Another vote for the orchid!

http://imageshack.com/a/img547/3517/383t.jpg

Bonus points for pix?

http://imageshack.com/a/img834/222/muux.jpg
I think this is day five hair. Pretty slippy.

LauraLongLocks
March 14th, 2014, 01:50 PM
I like the orchid, which you've already mentioned, and the nautilus. Both are super secure. I also like to ponytail my hair and make a braided cinnamon bun, held with three small claw clips. It doesn't go anywhere.

bunzfan
March 14th, 2014, 02:07 PM
I had the same thing happen. Usually im no silicone but i did the clairol radiance translucent color gloss recently and my hair became so slippery my usual lazy wrap wouldnt stay. Some kind of braided bun is the best bet for me under these circumstances, or a disk bun, but if all else fails i just do a french braid.


Gibraltar bun is supposedly named that way because it holds like a rock.

I like all braided buns for superb hold, especially if you start close to scalp or use a French/Dutch braid(s) as the base.

Sectioning buns or using accent braids prior to bunning helps too - it creates more grip and more loops through which to weave your hair toys.


When my hair is super slippery, the only bun that holds consistently is a flipped bun with a Ficcare.


My hair is slippery too, and a disc bun holds best.
I'm only APL, and too short for many bun styles yet! :)
French and dutch braids loosen considerably during the day. Paranda(i?) help them grip a little better.


Any braided bun usually works well, and interlaced braids holds like nothing else. If I need a quick solution I go for a hypno bun.

Thanks for all the suggestions i really appreciate it :D :D yes i was thinking of trying the disc bun and the hypno this week they are the only other ones i can think of. My hair was so slippery a braid wasn't even going to stay, i find nautilus buns can slip out unless i do a super tight one which i don't like doing and yes flipped buns hold great especially with a ficcare.

bunzfan
March 14th, 2014, 02:12 PM
I was gonna come on here and say orchid bun, but I see you already tried and liked it LOL. Another vote for the orchid!

http://imageshack.com/a/img547/3517/383t.jpg

Bonus points for pix?

http://imageshack.com/a/img834/222/muux.jpg
I think this is day five hair. Pretty slippy.

Yes how awesome is it :cool: i had quite forgotten about it i twisted the tail for extra stability and always bonus points for updo pics i love them:cool:


I like the orchid, which you've already mentioned, and the nautilus. Both are super secure. I also like to ponytail my hair and make a braided cinnamon bun, held with three small claw clips. It doesn't go anywhere.

I find a nautilus can slip out sometimes i never pony before braiding because i worry about damage but as i never wear ponytails anymore i guess it couldn't hurt.

Anje
March 14th, 2014, 02:22 PM
For me, a twisted nautilus (the twisting sort of locks it in for me, somehow) tends to be about the height of security. Clamp it down with a ficcare or pin it into submission with a few more Amish pins than you thought you needed. Gibralter buns and Celtic Knots are great styles for staying secure with a stick or ficcare, too, but I wouldn't trust them to pins. Lots of people tend to find that starting the same buns off with a braid instead of loose or twisted hair tends to keep them together better, so that's always a useful variation, and if it slips out, you still have a braid.

ravenheather
March 14th, 2014, 02:37 PM
My slippery hair buns are a disc bun or a pha bun and nautilus. An orchid is hit and miss for me. When it works it holds all day, when it doesn't just forget it and move on to another style.

frodolaughs
March 14th, 2014, 02:46 PM
A chinese wrap bun started with 4 crosses of a braid instead of a ponytail has become my secure go-to. Actually, I need to review some of these other styles because I should change things up a bit.

Neoma
March 14th, 2014, 03:12 PM
Wrapped bun with the right amount of tension hold most securely for me. My current favs:
* Neoma knot -- Instructions are somewhere on the site. The Articles section ate the originals with pics.
* Celtic knot
* Pencil bun secured vertically rather than horizontally

YamaMaya
March 14th, 2014, 03:15 PM
My go to "cement" hairstyle is a cinnibun secured with 2 spin pins. Holds all day long for 8+ hours while I'm at work. :)

Vanilla
March 14th, 2014, 07:22 PM
I am going to have to say the masara bun, made from a Dutch braid. I can literally put one fork in it, and it will be super secure the entire day.

LauraLongLocks
March 14th, 2014, 08:25 PM
Another solid favorite is the pha bun.

And with the nautilus, I twist it as I wrap it around. I secure it in the center with a small ficcare. I really need a medium for it. Anyway, it holds like a rock, even when I go running several miles.

Long_hair_bear
March 14th, 2014, 08:34 PM
Figure 8 bun and a cinnabun with a larks curly q. Larks curly Qs hold like cement, even through 30 minute elliptical machine workouts!

dancingpoet
March 14th, 2014, 08:34 PM
I totally needed this thread. My hair has been extra slippery for a week, even after washing it and not using any oil. Looks like I should learn the orchid bun. :)

LauraLongLocks
March 14th, 2014, 09:00 PM
I totally needed this thread. My hair has been extra slippery for a week, even after washing it and not using any oil. Looks like I should learn the orchid bun. :)

I have a tutorial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez2luyA-eD8

sourgrl
March 14th, 2014, 09:12 PM
For me it's a cinna bun secured with a ficcare. I think a Pha bun secured with a fork is rock solid but I need to find a fork I can love :). I think I need to check out the orchid bun...

Wildcat Diva
March 14th, 2014, 09:37 PM
I have a tutorial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez2luyA-eD8

Hey, nice tutorial! I like your little disclaimer at the end, haha. I do mine normally twisting the other way, but I did try it your way. It works great, too! It's nice to have a variation. Here's what mine looked like done your way.

http://imageshack.com/a/img835/4153/bfs3.jpg
(and I always forget which way to twist the tail, too! funny!)

LauraLongLocks
March 14th, 2014, 09:41 PM
Hey, nice tutorial! I like your little disclaimer at the end, haha. I do mine normally twisting the other way, but I did try it your way. It works great, too! It's nice to have a variation. Here's what mine looked like done your way.

http://imageshack.com/a/img835/4153/bfs3.jpg
(and I always forget which way to twist the tail, too! funny!) Looks very nice. Just like my admitted "pretzel" version. I think if I tried twisting it sideways first, then it would look a bit less pretzel-y. Thanks for trying it out and posting a pic! (Yes, I'm always forgetting which way I'm twisting when I get up to the top with my twists, ha ha!)

Chromis
March 14th, 2014, 09:42 PM
My answer to everything of course! Log roll held with a Ficcare. Holds like a rock no matter what I am doing or how long it has been since wash day.

Another that holds superbly is the modified Ellingwoman braid. It holds itself up! I do sometimes put a stick or at least an Amish pin or two in if I am working out with it, but normally it doesn't even need it. The braided nautilus holds almost as well, particularly with a thicker stick like a TT or my Vote Paladine spike.

julee
March 14th, 2014, 10:20 PM
Good idea for a thread! I've thought about starting one like this recently :)

Mine would probably be a lazy wrap or disc bun with a ficcare :)

RapunzelKat
March 14th, 2014, 11:01 PM
I generally go for braided buns when I have ultra-slippery hair. Usually either a side rose bun or a braided nautilus at the nape.

Maximum security is a braided cinnamon bun held with spin pins and secured with an elastic at the base. Any type of braid works, but the box braid has the most hold. I don't do this particular type often, but if I want my hair to absolutely stay put without adjustment all day, this type of bun is a surefire guarantee. Great for Zumba :D


I was gonna come on here and say orchid bun, but I see you already tried and liked it LOL. Another vote for the orchid!

Bonus points for pix?

I think this is day five hair. Pretty slippy.

But of course! And extra extra bonus points for your pretty hair toys. :disco:

bunzfan
March 15th, 2014, 05:33 AM
I absolutely love all the great responses i've gotten :cool:

Chromis i love the log roll but having shorter hair can't get the standard version to work so i made a tutorial on my version its basically started off like a french twist normally i hold it with a ficcare but today i got it to work with one of my smaller flexi's

:cheese:

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h400/emmerline1/rsz_log_roll_with_flexi_zps08e4554d.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/emmerline1/media/rsz_log_roll_with_flexi_zps08e4554d.jpg.html)

Here's the orchid bun i did yesterday i love this picture because its so foggy in the background. It held all day!

http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h400/emmerline1/rsz_orchid_bun_zps7f081d29.jpg (http://s1107.photobucket.com/user/emmerline1/media/rsz_orchid_bun_zps7f081d29.jpg.html)

I wish i could do a braided nautilus i love it but i need waaaay more length i could try a braided LWB i guess.

Chromis
March 15th, 2014, 08:29 AM
Nice!

I didn't learn the braided nautie until I was at knee already, so I didn't realize it took so much hair! I think I started doing log rolls around tailbone though, so you are almost there :cheer:

I didn't learn the Ellingwoman until knee either but I've seen people do it around bsl. You just won't have as many loops:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6792874460_9ec9c5cf69.jpg

bunzfan
March 15th, 2014, 08:39 AM
Nice!

I didn't learn the braided nautie until I was at knee already, so I didn't realize it took so much hair! I think I started doing log rolls around tailbone though, so you are almost there :cheer:

I didn't learn the Ellingwoman until knee either but I've seen people do it around bsl. You just won't have as many loops:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6792874460_9ec9c5cf69.jpg

Thanks :D yeah i think for the braided nautilus i will need at least tailbone length hair as i can only now do a really good nautilus as i can wrap twice round the loop! i can do a mini log roll as i'm a teeny bit past hip length they do hold brilliantly then i saw while looking on youtube today Hypnotica's french slide twist! that holds brilliantly so there's another good one to try.

I love your elling woman bun i tried it not to long ago and it was really secure and well balanced i think the braid goes through the loop twice. Plenty of ideas for us with slippery hair it's hello hydrations fault i left it on 45 minutes normally the pouf factor means i dont normally have hair too soft.

Toffeemonster
March 25th, 2014, 05:14 AM
Great thread, thanks for the ideas/video links!!

GoldenSilk
March 25th, 2014, 09:23 PM
I have a tutorial. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez2luyA-eD8

Thanks for the tutorial! I made my first orchid bun that actually worked. :)

Enjoying all the ideas in this thread! Pha buns and nautiluses are my go-tos, but I really needed more ideas because I'm totally in a rut.

LauraLongLocks
March 26th, 2014, 10:19 AM
Thanks for the tutorial! I made my first orchid bun that actually worked. :)

Enjoying all the ideas in this thread! Pha buns and nautiluses are my go-tos, but I really needed more ideas because I'm totally in a rut.

Glad it helped. :)