Totally different hair after trying new shampoo/conditioner

[Anyuta]

So I've decided to change my shampoo/conditioner set (yet again) and switch to completely organic ones with no silicones. I've been using Jason organics Jojoba and it's a pretty decent shampoo, leaves my hair clean, with a typical routine of having the need to wash every second day. I have very fine thin hair, it becomes oily so quick, in summer I usually need to wash every day. :mad:

I made a visit to a Natural grocers and remembered to get new shampoo, so I pretty much got whichever came first, but read the ingredients to make sure it was cone free/sulfate free (junk free). And I picked Acure Lemongrass shampoo and conditioner.

I never expected the results I got. When I first washed, I didn't feel much difference, it leathered well, and my hair is always silk and shiny right after the wash, nothing special. But then next day I wake up, and it's still silk and shiny. No grease at all! The day after, a slight amount of grease, hardly noticeable, but still very manageable and "usable" hair, meaning I could go like this to work. Finally only on the forth day I got the oily I head I usually get on the second day. I thought maybe this was just the way it reacted first time. But I tried few more washes and same results. My hair does not get so greasy anymore!:D

While I am crazy about this new routine where I can stretch my washes, I am worrying whether this shampoo is way to harsh and striping off my hair too much, drying my scalp too much? Could it be because it was cone free? This is my first time trying cone free shampoo. What else could it be? Anyone else tried this shampoo? Is having less oily scalp would have adverse effects on my hair?

Thanks!!

[Firefox7275]

It is as likely the first shampoo was irritating or stripping your scalp and causing it to pump out more subum to protect itself. Can you post the ingredients of each product? Do you know the pH?

[Anyuta]

Thanks for reply Firefox7275! Here are the ingredients:

Jason Jojoba shampoo:
Ingredients: Aqua (water), cocamidopropyl betaine, sodium coco sulfate, sodium cocoyl isethionate, lauryl glucoside, aloe barbadensis leaf juice*, calendula officinalis flower extract*, camellia sinensis leaf extract*, chamomilla recutita (matricaria) flower extract*, citrus grandis (grapefruit) fruit extract*, equisetum arvense leaf extract*, hamamelis virginiana (witch hazel) extract, hydrolyzed sweet almond seedcake, lavandula angustifolia (lavender) flower/stem extract*, yucca filamentosa extract, helianthus annuus (sunflower) seed oil, simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil*, ascorbic acid, citric acid, coco-glucoside, glyceryl oleate, glycerin, guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride, hydrolyzed wheat protein, linoleic acid, panthenol, phospholipids, potassium hydroxide, retinyl palmitate, sodium laurylglucosides hydroxypropyl sulfonate, sodium sulfate, tocopherol, tocopheryl acetate, alcohol*, benzoic acid, benzyl alcohol, dehydroacetic acid, phenoxyethanol, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, benzyl benzoate, citronellol, geranoil, hexyl cinnamal, hydroxycitronellol, fragrance (parfum). *Certified Organic Ingredient

Jason Jojoba conditioner:
Other Ingredients: Aqua (water), cetearyl alcohol, cetyl alcohol, glyceryl stearate SE, helianthus annuus (sunflower) seed oil, Olea europea (olive) fruit oil*, simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) seed oil*, aloe barbadensis leaf juice*, calendula officinalis flower extract*, chamomilla recutita (matricaria) flower extract*, citrus grandis (grapefruit) fruit extract*, equisetum arvense leaf extract*, hamamelis virginiana (witch hazel) extract, lavandula angustifolia (lavender) flower/leaf stem extract*, yucca filamentosa extract, hydrolyzed sweet almond seedcake, hydrolyzed wheat protein, behentrimonium methosulfate, cetrimonium chloride, citric acid, dimethicone, glycerin, hydroxyethylcellulose, linoleic acid, linolenic acid, panthenol, panthenyl ethyl ether, phospholipids, polysorbate 60, retinyl palmitate, stearyl alcohol, tocopherol, tocopheryl acetate, alcohol*, benzoic acid, benzyl alcohol, potassium sorbate, sodium benzoate, hydroxycitronellal, fragrance (parfum). *Certified Organic Ingredient

Acure Organics Shampoo Lemongrass and Argan Stem Cell
Ingredients: Organic euterpe oleracea (acai) berry, organic rubus fruticosus (blackberry), organic rosa canina (rosehips), organic punica granatum (pomegranate), organic fair trade certified rooibos, organic aloe barbadensis vera leaf juice, sodium lauroyl methyl isethionate (from coconut), 100% naturally-derived betaine (from sugar beets), vegetable glycerin, sodium methyl cocoyl glutamate (from coconut + amino acids), sodium cocoyl glutamate (from coconut + amino acids), cocoglucosides hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride (sugar conditioner), sodium levulinate (from corn), guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride (guar gum conditioner), potassium sorbate (food grade preservative), organic argania spinosa (argan) oil, organic fair trade certified olea europea (olive) oil, d-alpha tocopherol acetate (vitamin E), ubiquinone (CoQ10), argania spinosa (argan) stem cells, organic persea americana (avocado) oil, cymbopogon schoenanthus (lemongrass), lavendula dentata (French lavender), evernia prunastri (oakmoss), and rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) essential oils.

Acure Organics Conditioner Lemongrass and Argan Stem Cell
Ingredients: Organic euterpe oleracea (acai) berry, organic rubus fruticosus (blackberry), organic rose canina (rosehips), organic punica granatum (pomegranate), organic fair trade certified rooibos, cetearyl alcohol, behentrimonium chloride, stearylkonium chloride, vegetable glycerin, glucono delta lactone (fermented sugar), organic argania spinosa (argan) oil, cetearyl glucoside (from corn and glucose), guar hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride (guar gum conditioner), glyceryl stearate (vegetable derived), L-arginine (amino acid), organic fair trade certified theobroma cacao (cocoa) seed butter, sorbitan olivate (from olives + sugar), panthenol (pro-vitamin B5), cellulose (plant derived), d-alpha tocopherol acetate (vitamin E), lactic acid (vegetable derived), ubiquinone (CoQ10), argania spinosa (argan) stem cell culture, cymbopogon schoenanthus (lemongrass), lavendula dentata (French lavender), evernia prunastri (oakmass), and rosmarinus officinalis (rosemary) essential oils.

I don't know ph sorry.

[Firefox7275]

That's a ton of ingredients so one could only make an educated guess ... But what jumps out is there is a sulphate surfactant in the Jason and not in the Acure. To be fair the betaine is supposed to make sulphates gentler, but some of us are more sensitive than others. Do you happen to have any other skin issues - dermatitis/ eczema, mild allergies, etc? Or in close relatives? If so you may be more likely to react negatively.

[CousinItt]

It could be the silicone (dimethicone) in the Jason conditioner that makes your hair greasy. I found silicones did the same for me. My hair is naturally dry, and, normally, I can go weeks before it looks greasy, but with silicone-based conditioner, I had to wash every other day to maintain non-greasy hair.

[spidermom]

Isn't it wonderful to find a product that makes a difference? I found one, too (but a different brand).

[ErinLeigh]

I just started the Acure Moroccan Argan Oil and Stem Cell conditioner and LOVE it. Even the smell is good to me. This post makes me want to go buy the shampoo now. I was trying to use up my Juice Organics POMSmooth first but nope. Off to amazon. :)

[ErinLeigh]

It could be the silicone (dimethicone) in the Jason conditioner that makes your hair greasy. I found silicones did the same for me. My hair is naturally dry, and, normally, I can go weeks before it looks greasy, but with silicone-based conditioner, I had to wash every other day to maintain non-greasy hair.

Same for me. When I use cones my hair feels greasy in a day.. Without them I could easily go much longer. I produce very little oil naturally even when using sulfates. Cones just give me the greasies, not sure why.

Also ingredient wise, The JASON shampoo has actual cleansing agents in first 5 ingredients where the Acure is Fruit based. When I peruse the WO thread i always notice them sating their scalps start producing much less oil when not using cleansing agents to wash.