"Mad Men" Hair?

[dorothea-brooke]

I am obsessed with the hair on this show. I know, I know -- it's all horribly back-combed and hairsprayed and tortured to death, but the updos are so ... sculptural. I'm particularly in love with the hairdo of the new secretary, Jane.

So, a few questions for my fellow fans: Can anyone get a good picture of Jane's hair, particularly from the side? I tried on the interwebs, and no luck. I suppose I could try to download an ep and use a screen-capture program, but I thought I'd check first to see if anyone else had already done this. :D

Question 2: How the heck do you get that hair? I mean, without frying yourself? Maybe I need to get the picture first and then put the talented Isilya to work. ;) But if anyone else watches the show and has ideas -- about her hair or Joan's hair -- I'd love to hear them!

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[Curlsgirl]

No ideas but the hair is very interesting! I wish Peggy would wear hers down more and vary it though. I know it fits her character but still..I saw her with it down in a flippy style and it looked WAY better!

[dorothea-brooke]

No ideas but the hair is very interesting! I wish Peggy would wear hers down more and vary it though. I know it fits her character but still..I saw her with it down in a flippy style and it looked WAY better!

I know! She looked gorgeous when she got all dolled up and went to the, um, strip club, didn't she? [I just realized how weird that sentence might seem to someone who doesn't watch the show! :o]

I thought she was really homely up till that point -- deliberately, as part of her characterological development -- but with her hair down she's quite beautiful.

curlsgirl, I've been meaning to say I love your new avatar and siggy! :)]

[Tabitha]

Grr we won't get Season 2 here in the UK until next year! I was struck by how different Elisabeth Moss looked as Peggy from how she appeared as Zoey Bartlet in The West Wing - not just a matter of age.

[Curlsgirl]

I know! She looked gorgeous when she got all dolled up and went to the, um, strip club, didn't she? [I just realized how weird that sentence might seem to someone who doesn't watch the show! :o]

I thought she was really homely up till that point -- deliberately, as part of her characterological development -- but with her hair down she's quite beautiful.

curlsgirl, I've been meaning to say I love your new avatar and siggy! :)]

Thanks!!!! :flower:

We have watched every episode except this last Sunday. It is very different huh? Yeah funny about the strip club comment! :D

[dorothea-brooke]

Thanks!!!! :flower:

We have watched every episode except this last Sunday. It is very different huh? Yeah funny about the strip club comment! :D

This week's is quite Jane-centric, so you can really see what I'm talking about with the hair. :cool:

Ooops, Tabitha -- hope we didn't spoil you! :)

[Tabitha]

Ooops, Tabitha -- hope we didn't spoil you! :)

Thanks but don't worry about it - I'm sure I will have forgotten anything I read here by next year and in any case, it's the kind of show you watch for more than just the plot denouements. I really enjoyed it although it had some very dark moments.

By sheer coincidence, I found myself singing the song that featured in the jazz/folk club a couple of weeks after that episode, in my singing evening class (By The Waters of Babylon).

[Kuchen]

I try to do this sort of thing with judicious use of hairscroos and using my own hair as a rat :silly:

[Miss Murphy]

First of - I lovelovelove MadMen! :inlove: I love everything about it - the storyline, the design, the women, the un-PC-ness of it all...

I found these images on the AMCTV homepage:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/47659/08mm_ep205_jane_img_1723.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/47659/mm_ep205_joan_jane_760x535_img_1597.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/47659/new_joan_fashion.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/47659/mm_ep_207_don_betty_760x535_7599.jpg

[dorothea-brooke]

First of - I lovelovelove MadMen! :inlove: I love everything about it - the storyline, the design, the women, the un-PC-ness of it all...

I found these images on the AMCTV homepage:
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*Gasp*! Thank you thank you thank you, Miss Murphy! These are perfect photos!

Now, who can tell me how to do Jane's hair??? :drama:

Kuchen, I'm intrigued -- can you give more details? :pray:

[Mely]

First of - I lovelovelove MadMen! :inlove: I love everything about it - the storyline, the design, the women, the un-PC-ness of it all...

I found these images on the AMCTV homepage:



http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/47659/mm_ep205_joan_jane_760x535_img_1597.jpg




Woa! Is that In IBM Selectric typewriter? The one with the ball? I remember those! I haven't seen one of those in years.

I've never seen or heard of the show--but the pictures are interesting!

[dorothea-brooke]

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I've never seen or heard of the show--but the pictures are interesting!

Oh, you gotta watch it! It's set on Madison Avenue, in an advertising firm, circa 1960 (I think they're up to 1962 now). I mean, really, the hair alone! :crush: But it's also smart, dry, well acted, great furniture, interesting, lovely clothes.... :inlove:

[Kuchen]

People also used hair pieces A LOT in that period, and wigs too. My mum even had a blonde wig that she wore to play tennis on occasion. The mind boggles.

[Miss Murphy]

Kuchen, my mum had one too! :laugh:
I once wore a wig for a fancy-dress party, and the itching nearly killed me. Yes, the mind does boggle.

Mely, if you have the chance, do catch it! It's just awesome, especially for a retro-lover like me.

[Slug Yoga]

I'm also interested in cool hairdos like this, but yeah, all the instructions I ever see involve evilness to my hair. I think we should form some sort of "Healthy Elaborate Updo" club, where we can figure out hair friendly alternatives to hairsprays, ratting, etc. As for the ratting, yeah, I suspect the solution involves using something besides your own hair. Unless you have such long hair that you could do something really tricky. :hmm:

[RetroKitten]

I just wanted to jump in with some links that might help...!

http://www.hairarchives.com/private/archivesnew.htm
http://community.livejournal.com/vintagehair/185250.html#cutid1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeVf1ehUGNQ
http://www.youtube.com/user/superkawaiimama

[dorothea-brooke]

Slug Yoga, I'm in the club! :)

Thanks for those great links, RetroKitten! I think I'm starting to dream of a Halloween costume....

[Miss Murphy]

Dorothea-Brooke, if you want to go as Joan (the red-headed secretary) - or anybody else wants to - send me a PM. I know a great seller on ebay who does tailor-made clothes for an unbeatable price. She usually does both classic suits and dresses as well as celebrity-inspired clothing, and at the moment she also offers a Joan-dress.
(I wasn't sure if it was ok to post the seller link here, so just send me a PM).

I have ordered from her in the past, and am always more than satisfied.

[Arctic_Mama]

LOVE those hair styles - what's fun is that paired with a cute top and jeans I don't actually think they'd look that dated at all. I am flummoxed as to how any of them would be achieved without a) massive product overkill or b) the backcombing tease of ripping, tangled death.

But I am certainly lo0oking forward to our more creative hair gurus to enlighten me on this :p

[Miss Murphy]

Arctic Mama, this picture from IMDB (it shows "Joan" and "Trudy") makes me think that there are at least hairpieces involved, if not even wigs:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/47659/LHC/mm.jpg

[dorothea-brooke]

Dorothea-Brooke, if you want to go as Joan (the red-headed secretary) - or anybody else wants to - send me a PM. I know a great seller on ebay who does tailor-made clothes for an unbeatable price. She usually does both classic suits and dresses as well as celebrity-inspired clothing, and at the moment she also offers a Joan-dress.
(I wasn't sure if it was ok to post the seller link here, so just send me a PM).

I have ordered from her in the past, and am always more than satisfied.

A Joan-dress?!!! Oh my oh my, I'm fainting into my morning tea here.... This would also give me a good excuse to use a temporary red hair dye, which is always so fun. (I used one last year for my Pippi costume, too.)

Yes, it looks like from those photos that major hairpiece action is going on.... :D

[Miss Murphy]

Dorothea, you absolutely MUST post a picture of yourself in full Joan-mode if you go through with it! :pumpkin:

[Tabitha]

Oh wow, that would be fabulous! I adore the way Joan looks. You'll have to practise the special walk as well :wink:

[Samikha]

And the looks she gives people! The voice! The whole experience;)

Just popping in to say I love Christina Hendricks, and I hope we can figure out how to do some of these without punishing our hair.

[dorothea-brooke]

Dorothea, you absolutely MUST post a picture of yourself in full Joan-mode if you go through with it! :pumpkin:


Oh wow, that would be fabulous! I adore the way Joan looks. You'll have to practise the special walk as well :wink:


And the looks she gives people! The voice! The whole experience;)

Just popping in to say I love Christina Hendricks, and I hope we can figure out how to do some of these without punishing our hair.

I've posted a desperate plea for hair-rat advice and styles in another thread, so maybe we'll get some help! :D

Already working on the little-kitten voice and walk. :lol: Perhaps I'll lecture today in this voice. Um, perhaps not. :laugh:

[Miss Murphy]

Anybody remember this scene from Season 1 - the Beaujolie lipsticks? When she leans over and applies the lipstick, fully knowing that it's a two-way mirror and all the boys are watching behind it? And Ken actually standing up and saluting her? :laugh:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/47659/LHC/01_ep106__MG_6567.jpg

[Curlsgirl]

We watched the most recent episode last night and I asked my DH because I thought it looked like Joan had a wig on. I LOVE that show mostly for the retro authentic EVERYTHING and it is very addictive too! I was glad to see Peggy change from her teenage look to the glamorous look! That blue dress was really pretty! I am just amazed at all the sexist attitudes they can get away with on that show. I think the blonde girl is very pretty and I can't wait to see what happens as his affairs are becoming known. I bet she has an affair with the horse club guy!

[dorothea-brooke]

Anybody remember this scene from Season 1 - the Beaujolie lipsticks? When she leans over and applies the lipstick, fully knowing that it's a two-way mirror and all the boys are watching behind it? And Ken actually standing up and saluting her? :laugh:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/47659/LHC/01_ep106__MG_6567.jpg

She is amazing, isn't she? I'm starting to see that this Halloween "costume" is going to require a whole self-study program: walk, voice, the "look," the attitude....

Oh Joan, we hardly know ye! :D

Well, blow me down: this is my 1000th post! Where do I apply for my Guru Card? :cool:

[dorothea-brooke]

Okay, I just found this (http://pompsnpincurls.googlepages.com/beehive).

All seems fine till Step 13 (they even advocate using Blaxx or other hair-friendly elastics!), at which point it all goes to h*ll and the back-combing starts.... :rolleyes:

But I think one could recreate most of the general idea without the backcombing...? What do you all think?

[Samikha]

But I think one could recreate most of the general idea without the backcombing...? What do you all think?

It looks plausible! I'm willing to give it a try :D I'm gonna do a dry shampoo tonight, so the brush is coming out anyway. If I try it I'll report with results.

[dorothea-brooke]

It looks plausible! I'm willing to give it a try :D I'm gonna do a dry shampoo tonight, so the brush is coming out anyway. If I try it I'll report with results.

Wee-hoo! Yes, please let us know. I doubt I could do this myself or I'd give it a try right away; I'm going to have to enlist another pair of hands, I think. :)

[Samikha]

Wee-hoo! Yes, please let us know. I doubt I could do this myself or I'd give it a try right away; I'm going to have to enlist another pair of hands, I think. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/Sidsel/updo1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v116/Sidsel/updo2.jpg

Sorry for taking so long! I got sick and forgot all about this. As you see, one should not attempt this without an ARMY of bobby pins. (I only had a small battalion, so I had to use claw clips, which ruined the look some.)

It takes at least half an hour to do, and if you're going to avoid those wispies STICKING OUT EVERYWHERE *breathes* you'll want to mist your hair some. And don't attempt it on clean hair!

As for the backcombing, my bangs make that pretty much impossible. I think you could do something similar with a bit of effort, because it really does need that volume in the front.

I think you could achieve the pinless look with some practice, or with a vict- err, assistant to help you.

[wendyg]

You know, that's not *at all* how I remember beehive hairdos. I remember them as these ghastly sprayed monstrosities, Whereas, *that* looks really nice!

wg

[Dulci]

Well I was wondering when Peggy was going to get a makeover, but *woah* I wasn't expecting that. I do like her new hairdo though!

[Aicha]

Grr we won't get Season 2 here in the UK until next year! I was struck by how different Elisabeth Moss looked as Peggy from how she appeared as Zoey Bartlet in The West Wing - not just a matter of age.

You might try checking fanpop.com to see if you can find the episodes there.

ETA that I love this show too and I am in awe at the hair styles!

[Tabitha]

Just bumping this thread for any UKers who are watching Mad Men Season 2 on BBC4. Last night was episode 8 - A Night to Remember. Where Betty accuses Don, and throws him out. I look forward to watching it every Tuesday.

Dorothea, did you ever get your costume together?

[enfys]

Nooooooooo I missed it. Flipping heck. Last week I missed because I was out and never caught up.

I hadn't really thought about copying the hairstyles, but of course since most people had shorter hair i could most likely roll mine into a puffy rat to get the look without backcombing.

I have also bought fake hair bun things to backomb which did the job. Almost.

[Lady Verity]

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f119/47659/new_joan_fashion.jpg



Her chesticles are...upside down! :eek:

[Tabitha]

Nooooooooo I missed it. Flipping heck. Last week I missed because I was out and never caught up.


BBC iPlayer is your friend: yesterday's, episode 8 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jn88p/Mad_Men_Series_2_A_Night_to_Remember/

Last week's, episode 7: available until 1.49 am tomorrow (so, just for a few hours more) http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jf36g/Mad_Men_Series_2_The_Gold_Violin/

ETA if you miss episode 7, here's a reasonable synopsis http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/09/mad-men-the-gol.html

[enfys]

Well I taped episode 7 with the funny new dvd recorder thing we have. I really must watch it. I didn't even know we got this programme here until the end of season 1, having looked enviously at screen caps.

So, I'll watch it tomorrow, then iPlayer it up! Good call, Tabitha.

[enfys]

Her chesticles are...upside down! :eek:

Haha. I've no idea how she can defy gravity so much but I hope I can do that instead of letting it go south.
That's it! The laws of gravity don't apply to her! That's how she get those fabulous hair styles, it's like she's in space.

[Tabitha]

I read somewhere that they make the female cast members wear vintage-style undies, bras and girdles to give the authentic silhouette.

This link tells more: AMC series mines classic undergarments to achieve look (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08203/898331-314.stm)

[InTheCity]

Anybody remember this scene from Season 1 - the Beaujolie lipsticks? When she leans over and applies the lipstick, fully knowing that it's a two-way mirror and all the boys are watching behind it? And Ken actually standing up and saluting her? :laugh:




Yes!! I've only seen the show a few times (shame on me) but this was one of the ones that made me a believer.

[Loviatar]

I haven't even seen this show yet and I already love it. I adored Christina Hendricks in Firefly as Yo-Saff-Bridge (Saffron) and she looks even better as Joan. I am going ot have to watch this now.

Her hair is just amazing! :crush:

I am so up for a Healthy Non-Backcombed Vintage Updos club :)

[Lady Verity]

I read somewhere that they make the female cast members wear vintage-style undies, bras and girdles to give the authentic silhouette.

This link tells more: AMC series mines classic undergarments to achieve look (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08203/898331-314.stm)

Ooh! I love vintage underwear, but I have nothing to...put in them. :oBullet-bras are hilarious.