View Full Version : Need a salon for problem hair: Phoenix, San Diego, anywhere in between!

July 23rd, 2013, 06:40 PM
This is hard to for me to talk about but I need some help and I hope someone here can offer some direction. I have severely thin hair; my scalp shows through if I don't style it very carefully. I keep it long so I can use fake hair like those Revlon Quick Clips to add to my own hair. My hair grows stick straight out of the crown of my head and gets progressively curlier as you go towards the hairline, from 1a to 3b.

I was incredibly lucky to find a stylist who had the same 1a-to-3b hair type (although she had a lot more of it). She could cut and style my hair and also lifted the color beautifully. I went to her for nearly 20 years until she moved out of the country five years ago. I haven't had my hair done since because I have been dreading trying to find a new stylist. I have some salon horror stories just like most of you from when I was younger, but with hair this thin if I have another salon nightmare it won't be something I can easily come back from. I want to cry just thinking about it.

The good news is I have five years of virgin hair now, just past bra strap length. I need to find a stylist who has experiencing styling severely thin hair, who can shape it so that the 1a-to-3b looks normal when it's dry (if you cut the hair all the same when it's wet, it ends up looking very strange when it's dry because it all dries to different lengths) and who can lift color to look natural. My old stylist basically just did what the sun does to my hair, it was a sunny, beautiful, completely natural color that I loved. I have dark blond hair but as I'm aging it's getting more and more gray and now it looks just awful. It's a mousy dun all over and I have wide gray streaks coming from my temples like the Bride of Frankenstein. I'm so embarrassed I don't even want to go out in public. I wear baseball caps (I know that's not good for my hair!) and I've even been avoiding church - that is ridiculous, I know, but that's where I'm at.

I feel stuck in a prison. I live in Scottsdale but I will travel to Tucson or San Diego or anywhere around there for a stylist that can do what my old stylist did. If anyone has any recommendations, please, please let me know. I need to get my old self back soon. I feel like I'm going crazy.

July 23rd, 2013, 08:10 PM
There is a George Michael salon in Beverley Hills. They specialize in long hair. I've never been to that one, but I've been to his sister salon in NYC, and they do amazing cuts and color. I have only gone in for cuts with them.

Not Lynn Merely
July 23rd, 2013, 08:20 PM
Do you still keep in contact with your former stylist? Maybe she would be able to give you a recommendation.

July 23rd, 2013, 09:10 PM
I actually would not recommend a George Michael salon because the George Michael philosophy is geared toward long hair, not long curly hair. A George Michael cut is kind of the opposite of the ideal curly cut. I would look for a curly hair specialist instead, but make sure to do a consultation first so you can discuss your needs. You might go to naturallycurly.com and check the stylist recommendations forum, and you can also go to mydevacurl.com to look for Deva-inspired stylists. You might not necessarily want the whole Deva styling experience, which includes gel scrunching/styling, but you can let the stylist know in advance if there's anything you don't want done. There're videos on youtube that can give you an idea of what's done.

If you haven't discussed this issue with your doctor, that would be a good idea as well--at least if this is a hair-loss issue as opposed to an always-had-thin-hair issue. I don't know if you're at the magic age, but post-menopausal thinning defintely isn't uncommon.

July 24th, 2013, 01:14 AM
I asked her for a referral but she didn't know of anyone. She was a color specialist, I think it was just a happy coincidence that she knew how to cut my hair because she had the same hair. Maybe I'm expecting too much to find someone who could do both? Should I look for two separate stylists?

I'd rather avoid L.A. and OC unless someone has a rock solid recommendation for someone there. I am overweight thanks to a series of surgeries last year (I'm working it off but slowly). I am a born and raised Angeleno and I know very well how they treat overweight women in that part of the world. I have no desire to put myself through that right now. San Diego isn't quite as bad, that is why I specified.

I used to have a full head of bouncy Shirley Temple curls. My hair has been thinning since my 30s. I have been to doctor after doctor, dermatologists who specialize in hair loss, had blood workups. The only thing they found was my iron was slightly low so I take a supplement now. I did Regenix for a year - nothing. I used Rogaine which didn't do a thing for the hair on my head but grew a lovely beard. :( I took Visical which actually did help grow my eyelashes (which are also thin) but did nothing for my hair. I am just worn out.

jeanniet - thanks, I am going through those sites now.There's a big family event coming up in Atlanta in September. That's why I finally resolved to get my hair done. We have some of the loveliest Southern women you'll ever see in our family and I'm dreading anyone seeing me like this! I even chipped a tooth but I'm getting my teeth bonded in a few weeks. I'd feel so much better if I could just get my hair back to looking decent again. It used to be my best feature, I feel so lost without it.

Malibu Barbie
July 24th, 2013, 01:46 AM
Can you get to Huntington beach? Everything you described my stylist can do, she is a color specialist that specializes in high lift color on blondes. I feel your pain I've been to several stylist in Scottsdale and its been a nightmare. I have also thought about going home just so they could videotape how to do my hair from beginning to end. This way I could bring it back to teach them how to do my hair. They used to have a list on here of long hair friendly hair stylist. I can't find it but she is on the list in Huntington beach. If anyone knows where the link is maybe they'll post it. My hair has suffered a lot since I left so I totally understand what your going through. Good luck

July 24th, 2013, 01:54 AM
I am on the other side of the world, so i cant help with recommendations, but I just want to say I hope you find great stylist soon. It sounds really awful to be house bound and feeling so unlovely all the time. Hopefully the new tooth and a great cut and colour will help you feel like your most beautiful self.

July 24th, 2013, 02:54 AM
Malibu Barbie - was it Lynn Dang at Pro Hair Designs? That's the only HB salon that came up when I did a search.

Flick6 - thank you! I will get there, I'm just frustrated and anxious right now!

July 24th, 2013, 06:43 AM
I don't have any personal recommendations for your area, but here's the thread with Long Hair Friendly Salons (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=11326). It's a bit old but at least it's another resource to comb through on your search. Good luck!

July 24th, 2013, 11:30 AM
I'm really sorry you're having to deal with this. I assume the doctors did a thyroid and hormonal workup? Did you ever seen an endocrinologist? Do you have any other symptoms along with the hair thinning? Menopause can cause hair thinning, of course, but if this started in your 30s something must have been going on. If it was low iron it seems it should have reversed itself once your iron levels stabilized. Sorry if you already did the things I mentioned. Sometimes doctors don't take hair loss in women as seriously as they should.

ETA: Urgh, forgot your surgeries! If you've seen significant hair change recently, it may be related to the stress from surgery, so you may see some improvement over the next year or so. It takes a while for the hair to recover from stress.

Malibu Barbie
July 24th, 2013, 12:13 PM
Malibu Barbie - was it Lynn Dang at Pro Hair Designs? That's the only HB salon that came up when I did a search.

Flick6 - thank you! I will get there, I'm just frustrated and anxious right now!

Yes, that's the one. Explain the situation, and tell her your coming from AZ, if she's booked and can't do it her daughter (Helen) is awesome and might be available just ask. They have both done my hair. This is an out of the way small salon. The women there are great. Most don't know about it. I have all one length hair ( Well I did until I came here) so all I had done was a trim. But I'm sure she could do a nice job, just be specific.

July 24th, 2013, 01:46 PM
jeanniet - I did thyroid testing over and over and saw a really good endocrinologist. I think the iron supplement has slowed the thinning a little (this is kind of gross but I noticed I was pulling less of my hair out of the vacuum cleaner rollers, more of my hair accumulates there than anywhere else). I don't think last year's surgeries are the cause as it's been thinning for many years now. I was in a bad accident a long time ago. My car was totaled and I was badly injured. That triggered a two-year fallout which was when I lost most of my hair. It just never grew back and has continued to thin. My old stylist commented once that it's like my body went into shock after the accident and never really came out of it. I was sort of making do until I start seeing my scalp through my hair and realized everyone else could, too.

Malibu Barbie - awesome, thanks so much for the info. I was going through the bathroom cabinets this morning and found the empty box my old stylist gave me for the lifting cream she used, she even wrote her instructions on the box! I forgot I had that. They still make the cream, it's Framcolor Futura, in fact you can buy it on Amazon. When I call Pro Hair I'll ask if that's something they use or can get. I'll buy it myself and bring it to the salon if I have to but I'd rather find someone who is accustomed to working with it.

July 24th, 2013, 02:06 PM
Can I ask you how you used the Rogaine and what percent you used? By how I mean your routine--how long before bedtime, did it drip down your face etc. I also had lost a bunch of hair back in teen years and then in my 40s another round of normal age related shed began which created gaps that were really hard to comb over. That is when I started using rogaine and found recently lost hair and old hair came back. It takes time--I saw no result for 2 months--I applied to just one part of my head in the beginning to test it and saw new growth that was unmistakable. After that I got more confident and started applying to other regions. I take care it doesnt get on my pillow by leaving good 3-4 hours gap before bedtime and used to keep wet washcloth nearby to wipe away any drips immediately.

I already had considerable facial hair that I bleached or removed with laser but rogaine did not increase that at all. It also did not increase my eyebrow or eyelash hair. It grows hair only in areas it comes in contact with the skin which is why I suspect it may have gotten on your face. I really hope you can give it another try. It has done wonders for my hair.

July 24th, 2013, 02:56 PM
Hm... that's interesting, Beborani. I don't remember any drip issues. I used the men's extra strength 5% for six months, that's what my dermatologist suggested. I applied it after I showered when I got home from work so it was well before I went to bed. Once you start using it aren't you stuck using it forever? If you stop, won't your hair fall out again? That was one of my concerns since I travel for work and wouldn't always be able to have it with me.

July 24th, 2013, 03:57 PM
I use women's 2% and use it twice, morning and evening. That is the biggest problem trying to squeeze it in twice but the results are worth the effort. When I travel i just carry a few days' supply in my carryon. Even when I travel internationally, I find time to apply it. Yes it may fall off if I stop though i havent tested that hypothesis yet. I feel (without any evidence) that only hair whose life span has been elongated will fall off but that new growth with new follicles will remain.