Hair Style Dictionary and Size Chart

[ChatoyantLocks]

The idea came up in another thread of developing a size chart for hair styles. Some hair styles work well for certain lengths and thicknesses of hair, and not for others. This would greatly help for people who are trying to figure out what styles will work for the length they are at, and save time and frustration, since they can avoid ones that just won't work.

I'm going to start this off by asking people to list names of hair styles they know about. If a style has more than one name, please mention that as well. I'm also going to limit this to styles that don't involve back combing, heat styling, or other methods that are likely to damage hair. As names are added, I will periodically edit this top post, and add the names to the list. (I will put up future posts to get information about whether or not the styles work for your hair, so leave that info off for now.)
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Banded ponytail [AKA Caterpillar, Purplebubba's sleep braid]
Bantu knots
Basic braid [AKA Three strand braid, English braid]
Beavertail Braid
Bee butt bun
Bee butt bun (beadedbudgie's)
Bee butt bun "Christmas" variation
Braided cinnamon bun
Braided Chinese bun
Braided comet knot
Braided cornrows
Braided fancy bun
Braided figure eight bun
Braided orchid bun
Braid Flip (AprilElf's)
Braid Knot
Braid-over-braid updo
Bun (exclusively_di's)
Cage braid
Celtic bun
Celtic knot bun
Celtic knot bun (Cinnamon Hair's)
Cheater's figure eight bun (eadwine's)
Chinese bun
Calssic basic braids with bun
Classic Dutch braids with bun
Classic French braids with bun
Classic French five strand braids with braided tail
Classic Herringbone braids with bun
Classic French rope braids with bun
Classic twist with bun
Cinnamon bun [AKA Cinnabun]
Combo knot (aisling's)
Coronet braid
Coronet bun (mira-chan's)
Crown braid
Double basic braids
Double cinnamon buns horizontal
Double cinnamon buns vertical
Double drape ladder
Double Dutch braids
Double four strand box braid
Double four strand flat braid
Double four strand rope braids
Double French braids
Double French five strand braids
Double French rope braids
Double herringbone braids
Double looped knot (Twitch's)
Double rope braids
Double rose buns (AprilElf's)
Double rose buns horizontal
Double rose buns vertical
Dutch braid
Easy hairstick bun (laurahborealis')
Edwardian twist
Equilibrium bun
Fake bob trick (Cuddledumplin's)
Falling out bun (Amoretti's)
Ficcare braid (Cortese's)
Figure eight bun
Five strand braid
Flower bun (Isilya's)
Four strand box braid
Four strand flat braid
Four strand rope braid (Elainehali's)
Flipped bun
French braid
French roll
French rope
French twist
French twist bun (Hypnotica's)
Gibraltar bun (Cortese's)
Gibson pompadour
Gibson tuck
Hair flip
Hair knot
Half up cinnamon bun
Heidi braids
Herringbone braid [AKA fish tail braid]
Horseshoe braid
Infinity bun
Japanese bun
KarenLynn knot (long version)
KarenLynn knot (short version)
Lace braid
Lazy bun (Trolleypup's)
Lazy French twist
Lazy wrap bun (savi's) [AKA Non-Twist Bun (onceagain's)]
Long clamp
Log roll
Moezland bun [AKA Seashell bun]
Nautilus bun [AKA Inside-out bun]
Nine strand braid
Orchid bun
Orchid wrap
Peacock twist
Perimeter braid
Pig tails
Pinless braided bun
Poledra bun (icydove's)
Pony tail
Pony Wrapped Stick Bun (capelli_lunghi's)
Pretzel bun
Pretzel bun (aisling's)
Pretzel bun (JJJ's)
Puffy bun
Romantic French Twist (Hypnotica's)
Rope braid
Roped figure eight bun
Rose bun [AKA Rope braid bun]
Rose bun with four strand braid
Rosestem braid
Rosette bun
Seven strand braid
Side bun
Side twists [AKA Hair roll]
Six strand braid
Snake bun [AKA Herringbone braid bun]
Sock bun [AKA Kitty bun]
Sock bun (Veronique's)
Spiral french braid
Spiral french rope braid
Spirit bun (Spiritlocks's)
Stardust style (Yvaine's pirate ship hairdo) (Isilya)
Swirly bun (Leia's)
Topsy bun (Lil_irish_angel's)
Tri-coil bun
Twisted cornrows
Victorian Updo
Woven bun (Isilya's)
Wrapped bun
Wrapped bun (KarenLynn's)
Wrapped hairstick bun (Amoretti's)



Note: I'm not familiar with a lot of these styles. Please let me know if you see duplicate styles in my list under different names! (or any other errors - spelling, attributions etc.) The attributions are meant to be for the person who came up with the style, or a particular variation of a style, as opposed to someone who just demonstrated a known style.

[JessTheMess]

no suggestions, but great idea!

[Samikha]

I just copy-pasted what I wrote in the hairstyles knowledge thread:

Basic braid (Instructions link 1 (http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/updos/#20), link 2 (http://dreamweaverbraiding.com/braids/basic3.htm).
Braided bun (Instructions link (http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/updos/#19))
Braid-over-braid updo (Instructions link (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=63))
Chinese bun (Instructions link 1 (http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/updos/#23), link 2 (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=15), link 3 (http://www.dressytresses.com/hair/gallery/instruct/chinese-bun/))
Cinnamon bun (Instructions link 1 (http://www.dressytresses.com/hair/gallery/instruct/hair-bun/), link 2 (http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/updos/#4).
Crown braid (Instructions link 1 (http://dreamweaverbraiding.com/braids/crown.htm) (this one will probably need more links, considering how complicated it is, but this is a great start)
Dutch braid (Instructions link 1 (http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/updos/#11), link 2 (http://dreamweaverbraiding.com/braids/dutch.htm))
Five-strand braid (Instructions link 1 (http://dreamweaverbraiding.com/braids/5strand.htm), link 2 (http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/updos/#17), link 3 (http://www.dressytresses.com/hair/gallery/instruct/5by5/))
Flat four-strand braid (Instructions link (http://dreamweaverbraiding.com/braids/flat4.htm))
French braid (Instructions link 1 (http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/updos/#9), link 2 (http://dreamweaverbraiding.com/braids/french.htm), link 3 (http://www.dressytresses.com/hair/gallery/instruct/french-braid/))
French twist (Instructions link (http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/updos/#7))
Herringbone braid (Instructions link (http://dreamweaverbraiding.com/braids/herringbone.htm))
Infinity bun (Instructions link (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=28))
Lace braid (not really an updo, but...) (Instruction link (http://dreamweaverbraiding.com/braids/lace.htm))
Lazy wrap bun (Instructions link (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=72))
Orchid bun (I cannot for the life of me find comprehensive instructions, I may have to do them myself. Also, the distinction between orchid wrap and bun seems to be unclear. Better leave it to the more experienced.)
Rope braid (Instructions link 1 (http://dreamweaverbraiding.com/braids/Twist.htm), link 2 (http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/updos/#1))

Great initiative, ChatoyantLocks! I'm off to find more styles (that I can't do yet or haven't tried), and I promise to come back with plenty. (Also, I might mention that I can do all of these now at BSL with iii - low iii range, but still - hair.)
Do you also want links to instructions for all of them?
ETA: Started adding.

EATA: Now adding links at the blog entry (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/blog.php?b=20139), for convenience :)

[Shanarana]

That's a great idea, now I can't think of any.

[Shanarana]

I just copy-pasted what I wrote in the hairstyles knowledge thread:

Basic braid
Braided bun
Braid-over-braid updo
Chinese bun
Cinnamon bun
Crown braid
Dutch braid
Five-strand braid
Flat four-strand braid
French braid
French twist
Herringbone braid
Infinity bun
Lace braid (not really an updo, but...)
Lazy wrap bun
Orchid bun
Rope braid

Great initiative, ChatoyantLocks! I'm off to find more styles (that I can't do yet or haven't tried), and I promise to come back with plenty. (Also, I might mention that I can do all of these now at BSL with iii - low iii range, but still - hair.)
Do you also want links to instructions for all of them?

Instructions would be very helpful. I only can really do a couple updos.

[Nightshade]

Instructions would be very helpful. I only can really do a couple updos.

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=8235

This thread has a lot of instructions. Perhaps we can make links of the styles that we put in the first post, so you see a style, click on the link.

[ChatoyantLocks]

Do you also want links to instructions for all of them?

Thanks for the list! I'll start up the master list with them. :)

You can put up links to instructions since it sounds like it would be useful for other people. I'm going to wait to add links to the master list until I have that list under better control, since I know there is a lot of information to pull in for this project, and I'm trying to do it very methodically, so I don't become swamped.

[Samikha]

That sounds great, I'm gonna keep editing that post till I have one or more links to all of them, then post another one with all the ones I have only heard of (fireside stories, you know, of the legendary ten-strand Star Bun;)).

I guess eventually you'll need some sort of system for what links go first and stuff, but for now I'm just putting all the ones I have there so we have, preferrably, more than one example to work with.

[MeMyselfandI]

ChatoyantLocks

Thanks for starting this thread. I look forward to seeing names and lengths.

Nightshade,

thank you for that great link. Now, I will learn the names of styles, and maybe even do some. Hummm.

Shamikha,

that is a nice list of styles you can make.

[socks]

Well, off the top of my head, I can think of the banded pony, the figure-eight, a flipped over cinnamon bun (there isn't really a name for it, but I have a pic in my albums), the sock bun, the Gibraltar bun, and the log roll. Hope that helps. :)

[Arctic]

Basic 3-strand braid is also known as English braid.

ETA: Banded pony is also known as caterpillar and Purplebubba's sleep braid.

[Arctic]

- A puffy bun (instructions (http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=74625))

ETA:
- heidi braids
- coronet braid is I THINK but am not sure, same as crown braid

[dorothea-brooke]

Just wanted to say thanks, ChatoyantLocks, for starting this!

Perhaps when the list is complete and "sizing" begins, it will make most sense to organize by size category?

Well, I suppose you were already thinking of that.... I think I'm hungry. :rolleyes:

[Pierre]

A few more styles:
Double Dutch braid
Double French braid
Horseshoe braid
Sock bun

I've read that a double braid is called "classic". I don't know why. But then I don't know what's Dutch about a braid.

[Duchess of Erat]

- coronet braid is I THINK but am not sure, same as crown braid

I always thought they were different... The way I always understood it, a crown braid is like a lace braid all around the crown of your head, and a coronet braid looks similar, but is actually a 'normal' braid that is pinned around the head (so no adding hair to the braid as you go along, making a 'fake' crown braid).

[Samikha]

Hi there, guys. I decided to just make a blog post (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/blog.php?b=20139) with all the styles in the list so far, and I'm going to search for instructions for them while ChatoyantLocks makes the list longer. When she starts getting satisfied some links will be there already. Eventually we'll have a nice book of 'dos :)

[Nightshade]

Hair Type 2a/M/ii

At BSL I could do:

Peacock Twist (with the tail tucked in, I don't know if this has a name, sort of like a log roll)
All manner of braid: rope, english, french, dutch, herringbone, banded pony, etc.
Cinnabun
Karen Lynn Knot (short version)
French Twist
Sock Bun/Kitty Bun
At waist/hip I could do

Equilibrium Bun
Cinnabun
All manner of braid: rope, english, french, dutch, herringbone, banded pony, etc.
Gibraltar
Pinless Braided
Figure 8/Infinity
Chinese
Karen Lynn Knot (long version)
Ficcare Braid
Log Roll
Rosette Bun
At tailbone I can do everything that I could do at waist/hip, but the Equilibrium bun is getting really hard, and I have to cheat, only do part of the length, then wrap the rest behind, so technically it's too long for the style.

The big jump from styles from BSL to waist/hip isn't so much just that my hair got longer, so much as I learned new styles as well. :o

[ChatoyantLocks]

Hi there, guys. I decided to just make a blog post (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/blog.php?b=20139) with all the styles in the list so far, and I'm going to search for instructions for them while ChatoyantLocks makes the list longer. When she starts getting satisfied some links will be there already. Eventually we'll have a nice book of 'dos :)

Thanks! This should help a lot!:)

[ChatoyantLocks]

I'm trying to put together a Hair Style Dictionary and Size Chart for what styles work with what hair lengths and thicknesses.

I'm currently working on the strategy of how to approach sizing hair. Fortunately most people on this site are already familiar with Fia's hairtyping system. This should make the thickness designation easy. It is either i, ii, or iii. Length is a little more complicated. I had originally been thinking that designating it by where it falls on the body (shoulder length, waist length, etc.) would be sufficient, but I have been realizing that people's heights are different enough that it could make a difference. Waist length on someone who is 4ft8 is going to be rather different than on someone who is 6ft4. For this reason, I am now leaning towards measuring in inches (rounding to the nearest inch) starting from the crown of the forehead. Many people have already done this measurement anyway. This system, for example, would give me a "Hair size" of 51iii. There may be a slight difference in head sizes, but it has got to be less than the differences in body length. There is also going to be some variation in total bulk, just based on the degree of taper. I do recognize that not every style that falls in a person's hair size category will work for them, due to other factors (degree of curliness, face shape, hair toys on hand), but hopefully this will help people narrow down the selections to ones that are more likely to work for them.

Does this measuring system sound reasonable? It there anything else that is critical to take into account?


(Also, f you would like to suggest styles that should be in the dictionary follow this link: http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=10999

If you would like to help Samikha find more links for instructions on how to do these styles follow this one: http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/blog.php?b=20139

If you are not familiar with Fia's hairtyping system, you can find it here: http://homepage.mac.com/annsofie.henriksson/hairtyping/Personal27.html )

[Euphony]

I'm thinking that perhaps i, ii, and iii are not quite good enough. I am iii but I'm on the thinner end of iii after a good shed I had this summer my circumference is 4.25", but I know there are some iii's here that have a circumference of 6". That's a pretty huge difference. I also remember reading a thread a while back of people talking about what is iii. One post in particular caught me off - this person (sorry cannot remember who) has a 3. (something) circumference but puts iii in their profile because she/he wants it to be fair for people looking at pictures of theirs to see that their thickness is iii. Well I don't think 3 anything is iii, that doesn't happen until 4.whatever inches, but this person figured they were iii. This I would find confusing in and of itself, but this person thought it was more fair to others if they put iii in their profile :shrug:

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO what I'm getting at, is someone elses iii may not be the same (or even close) to mine.

[rhysiana]

What a good idea! I will have to ponder more to think about hair style suggestions, but for right now, the only thing I can think of to suggest would be to maybe find some way to combine the inches/body parts measurements. I don't know how this is going to be searchable/organized, but for example, you could try to indicate that "Shoulder length" styles encompass hair most typically measuring in at x-y inches (with a conversion to cm here, for all the metric folk), and so on. I think body part measurements are usually the most easily recognized at first glance, esp. for people who don't measure their length on a regular basis due to a desire to practice more benign neglect, or who perhaps harbor a fear that if they start measuring, the hair will start growing slower. *ahem* Not that I would know anything about that.

[Samikha]

I've been thinking of these things, too - quite a lot of decisions to make, no?

I agree with the concern above that iii in particular is a wide range. In fact, I've been privately wondering whether there should be an iv range for those with really, really, really thick hair. At least in the beginning, we could perhaps ask people to give their thickness measurements as exact as their length ones?

The same for length. If people could tell us how long in inches, and then where this is on their body, it would help. I recall a recent thread where they asked how long waist is on you, and that was usually between 30-32 inches, whereas BSL was far more varied. Eventually we could develop a "normal" scale, kinda like Igor's article (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=58) for those starting from short hair. Something like, "between BSL and waist: 26-32 inches" (these are just my round measurements) and then cm and so.

Yeah, it's gonna be a bit of work >.> But eventually we can just click on a link and get suitable hairdos! *goal in sight*

[Samikha]

Oh, and one more thing: If you are still up for it after all this stuff, we could even organize them after ease! I think the members of the Official Hair Idiots Club would like this :p and also those with a lot of time on their hands, looking for a challenge!

[Nightshade]

LOL I love the idea of some sort of coding or identification of styles by complexity. Color coding may work, so long as it's kept subtle and doesn't make the chart hard to read.

With something like this readability and the ability to understand the chart is more important than a ton of nice, but not necessary add ons.

I'm also in favor for doing a direct pony circumference measurement, at least to start. This also encourages people to measure, rather than just guessing.

[EmmaRose]

I'm also in favor of the exact ponytail measurement. Also, if you need any help organizing stuff, pm me, I've got way too much time on my hands right now anyway.

[EmmaRose]

I can't wait to see this. My handful of styles is pitiful. But since I never know if my hair is long enough or too long for a style, I rarely try new ones. (It takes me a long time to master a new style, so I don't like to waste my time if the style won't work out for another 6 months).

ETA: could we add how the updo is held up as well? Because at my somewhere around midback length, I can do a figure 8 with good days hair pins, but it's not quite long enough to hold with hair sticks - the ends work themselves loose in just a few minutes.

[LeaM07]

Ooo... this will be nice. :)

The Braided Chinese Bun and the Pinless Braided Bun differ a little bit, so they should really be two separate items. They're made similarly, but the PBB is one braid wrapped around a horizontal stick whereas the BCB is two braids wrapped around a stick in opposite directions.

I learned them here:

Braided Chinese Bun directions at DressyTresses (http://www.dressytresses.com/hair/gallery/instruct/china-sticks/default.asp)
Harpgal's Pinless Braided Bun directions (http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=71774) on the old LHC site and Eresh's video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAwAtnvm24g&feature=related).

Good luck! :flowers:

[HazelnutDelight]

What is a Gibraltar and Rosette bun?

[Samikha]

Chatoyantlocks, you meanie! I was only missing a few styles and then you go and update the damn list:lol: Ah well, I guess that's how it goes. Who ever knew there was a Christmas version of the bee butt bun? o.O

Hazelnutdelight, I am also still in the dark about the rosette bun, but the Gibraltar bun can be found here. (http://www.io.com/%7Ecortese/hair/styling.html)

[ChatoyantLocks]

Chatoyantlocks, you meanie! I was only missing a few styles and then you go and update the damn list:lol: Ah well, I guess that's how it goes. Who ever knew there was a Christmas version of the bee butt bun? o.O

Hazelnutdelight, I am also still in the dark about the rosette bun, but the Gibraltar bun can be found here. (http://www.io.com/%7Ecortese/hair/styling.html)

:D

I've been wandering around various links scooping up info on near mythical hair styles. I saw a picture of the Christmas version of the bee butt bun, but I have not seen directions anywhere. I saw one reference to a rosette bun. It is possible they meant a rose bun, but they could have meant something entirely different, so I put it on the list until we figure it out.

[ChatoyantLocks]

Good suggestions!

Ok, it sounds like the width does need more exactness, so I will go with inches. Should I recommend rounding to the half inch, or the quarter inch?

I've asked someone if they are interested in gathering data on how length measurements compare to shoulder/waist/knee etc.

Is there someone who would be interested in doing a survey of how hard the styles are? - Say, by listing the styles at the top of a post, and as people reply, labeling them something like easy, medium, challenging, or maybe a number ranking system (1= easy, 10 = most people need four hands to manage it) and averaging rankings. It will take a lot of upkeep for a while, since I'm going to be revamping the master list as new hair style names come in, and the rankings will change as more people reply.

[Nightshade]

I'd do a range, sort of like our hair types now, but just break down iii into iii, iv and v (you'd be better able to figure out how far the chart needs to go after you get more responses in).

I'd go by half inches for reporting results.

For ratings, I'd do 1-3, easy, medium, hard. too many options and I think we'll have a hard time sorting things. in a 1-10 chart, there's really not that much of a difference between, say 3-5. KWIM?

[physicschick]

I haven't had time to read all these threads, but I do wonder if you've thought of grouping the hairstyles into categories. For example, the "cinnabun" category would be all styles that require almost the same amount of hair as a cinnabun, so basically if you can do a cinnabun you can do all these other styles. You'd probably want to pick the most popular style to be the representative for its category, since people are more likely to know whether or not they can do that one.

[Ursula]

I'm thinking that rather than doing a chart, you may want to do a scatter plot. Go into a spreadsheet program, and make a chart with columns for a person's name, the length in inches, the circumfrence in inches, and each style. Enter a Y or N for each style and whether or not they can do it.

Then do a plot for each style, with circumfrence on one axis, and length on the other, and a red dot for each N and a green dot for each Y. This should give an idea of what range of thickness/circumfrence is likely to work for each style - some type of distribution. It will also show if there isn't a predictable distribution.

[ChatoyantLocks]

I'm thinking that rather than doing a chart, you may want to do a scatter plot. Go into a spreadsheet program, and make a chart with columns for a person's name, the length in inches, the circumfrence in inches, and each style. Enter a Y or N for each style and whether or not they can do it.

Then do a plot for each style, with circumfrence on one axis, and length on the other, and a red dot for each N and a green dot for each Y. This should give an idea of what range of thickness/circumfrence is likely to work for each style - some type of distribution. It will also show if there isn't a predictable distribution.

Yes, that's roughly what I had in mind. :) Also, once the basic data has been gathered, I was thinking of creating a program where you can enter you hair size, and the program will list the styles that will most likely work for you, along with information on how hard a style is to do, and links pointing to directions for it.

[happymommy]

How about the 4 strand box braid?

[Nightshade]

I haven't had time to read all these threads, but I do wonder if you've thought of grouping the hairstyles into categories. For example, the "cinnabun" category would be all styles that require almost the same amount of hair as a cinnabun, so basically if you can do a cinnabun you can do all these other styles. You'd probably want to pick the most popular style to be the representative for its category, since people are more likely to know whether or not they can do that one.

That's a great idea :)

Or at least for grouping styles in the: these all start with a cinnabun, versus, these all start with an English braid sort of thing. That way if someone doesn't like braiding they could avoid that category all together.

[Samikha]

Great plans, everyone :D This is really taking shape! One thing I was wondering - not a concern for a while, mind, but still something to consider - should we have just the names of the styles or also eventually pictures of everything? I'm inclined towards pictures being added, as some of the names aren't descriptive. Plus, excuse to take pics of hair :cheese:

[Nightshade]

Pictures are good.

Also, to add to the style categories, we could have twisted buns (based on cinnabun) and wrapped buns as another category.

[happymommy]

Is it okay if I say I am desperately awaiting the results of this project?? I volunteer to be a guinea pig!

[ChatoyantLocks]

How about the 4 strand box braid?

Added it!:)

Do you know if the style you have in your icon photo has a name?

[Samikha]

If you want to help, happymommy, you could always head out to my blog entry (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/blog.php?b=20139) and check if the instructions there are understandable to any beside myself :) Or even help me google for instructions. I know most of those styles, but a couple I have never heard of, and I would really appreciate the help:eyebrows:

[Nightshade]

Added it!:)

Do you know if the style you have in your icon photo has a name?

It's sort of like a kitty bun, which is a sock bun with the remaining hair braided and wrapped around (there's a tutorial in the archives I should try to dig up), but here it looks like the braids were looped instead?

[Samikha]

Isn't it just a sock bun with accent braids? Don't mind me, I've been staring at too many tutorials:( (I'm gonna have nightmares about the three thousand different ways to make a bun).

[plainjanegirl]

You guys are great to come up with this idea. Maybe I will learn some new dos. Can't wait.

[dorothea-brooke]

Just jumping in here after a few days of houseguests and very little LHC.... :(

I love this whole plan, ChatoyantLocks! I think the idea of naming each category by a representative hairstyle is a terrific one. Just off the top of my head (ha ha ha!), I would think of myself in the "Cinnabun" category, but not yet in the "Figure 8" category.

I also second Nightshade's idea of stipulating whether styles are twisted or not.

Perhaps the finished product could have columns along the top with the various descriptors, columns you could click to re-sort by that parameter depending on what you were searching for: Hair Size, Ease of Updo, Twisted or Not, Braided or Not, Type of Toy(s) Needed, etc., etc.

Thanks so much for taking this on! :flowers:

[ChatoyantLocks]

What if I assigned attributes to each hair style (bun, braids, twists) and then wrote a program that would pick out the hair styles that had the particular attribute requested?

ETA (Looks like I posted at the same time as dorothea-brooke.)

[dorothea-brooke]

What if I assigned attributes to each hair style (bun, braids, twists) and then wrote a program that would pick out the hair styles that had the particular attribute requested?

IMO, perfect! :D

I'm so excited -- can't wait for this to be up and running!

[Nightshade]

What if I assigned attributes to each hair style (bun, braids, twists) and then wrote a program that would pick out the hair styles that had the particular attribute requested?

That'd be badass!

Can you sort by length and thickness too?

So let's say I checked that my hair thickness is ii and that I'm looking for twists, could it spit out results that meet both criteria?

ETA: We'd also want to be able to browse too, perhaps a photo gallery, sort of like the mixes page on H4H (http://www.hennaforhair.com/mixes/index.html), but with styles? Categories across the top, descending in style by length needed?

[plainjanegirl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_OlAxiPIK0&feature=related

This is a side bun.

[plainjanegirl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFoyIUK9rW8&feature=user

This is similar to the stardust style that had a thread earlier this week.

[happymommy]

Yep, it's just a sock bun with accent braids. My hair isn't long enough to wrap all the way around the bun, so I just make two braids on either side. I can fake a kitty bun if I pin each across the top and bottom.

[Samikha]

Thank you, plainjanegirl! I'll be sure to add them to the list. Maybe if you find other instructions in your internet travels, you could post those directly to the blog entry (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/blog.php?b=20139), so ChatoyantLocks can have it nice and quiet here except for new style entries? :flowers: And thank you, again, I had no idea where to find a side bun, and this one is quite pretty too, not just the cinnamon bun on the side I had imagined.

[Alaskanheart]

This is an awsome idea!I cannot for the life of me figure out how to do a decent updo for my hair, and this would help me alot.I

Also , would it be beneficial to have "layered and non-layered" as criteria for success of the updo?Maybe something like "Style looks best with no layers" "Style will work with layers", even "style looks best with bangs or fringe" or visa versa.

ETA: Since alot of updos dont do well on layered or fringed hair, we could add a variation of instruction, that you would be directed to if you checked the "layered" box or bubble or whatever.Does that make sense?

[ChatoyantLocks]

That'd be badass!

Can you sort by length and thickness too?

So let's say I checked that my hair thickness is ii and that I'm looking for twists, could it spit out results that meet both criteria?

ETA: We'd also want to be able to browse too, perhaps a photo gallery, sort of like the mixes page on H4H (http://www.hennaforhair.com/mixes/index.html), but with styles? Categories across the top, descending in style by length needed?

I don't see any reason why I couldn't do this.

[ChatoyantLocks]

This is an awsome idea!I cannot for the life of me figure out how to do a decent updo for my hair, and this would help me alot.I

Also , would it be beneficial to have "layered and non-layered" as criteria for success of the updo?Maybe something like "Style looks best with no layers" "Style will work with layers", even "style looks best with bangs or fringe" or visa versa.

ETA: Since alot of updos dont do well on layered or fringed hair, we could add a variation of instruction, that you would be directed to if you checked the "layered" box or bubble or whatever.Does that make sense?

It makes sense. If everything goes well with getting the basic list and search functions up (and I don't run out of steam), I'll gather data for things like layers and hair toys.

[Alaskanheart]

It makes sense. If everything goes well with getting the basic list and search functions up (and I don't run out of steam), I'll gather data for things like layers and hair toys.

Okay glad I made sense. I know those details are further down the road, Im just so excited about the idea.Im very sure there are alot of talented LHCers who are willing to help, so that you dont run out of steam.:)

[Nightshade]

Perhaps instead of making that an option, just have the types of toys listed with the style?

For instance if you click on Gibraltar Bun:

Gibraltar Bun

How to (pics videos)

Works with these toys

I think layers or no may be a bit complicated, though it'd be nice, I think it's falling in the "nice" versus "necessary" category. Perhaps start with the basics, and leave that as an option to expand to later?

[plainjanegirl]

Ok if I find more I will post them in the blog. If you need any help with anything let me know. I am willing.

[ChatoyantLocks]

Okay glad I made sense. I know those details are further down the road, Im just so excited about the idea.Im very sure there are alot of talented LHCers who are willing to help, so that you dont run out of steam.:)

Would you like to volunteer? :twisted: I still need someone to run a survey on hair difficulty levels (1=easy, 2=medium, 3=difficult).

[Alaskanheart]

Perhaps instead of making that an option, just have the types of toys listed with the style?

For instance if you click on Gibraltar Bun:

Gibraltar Bun

How to (pics videos)

Works with these toys

I think layers or no may be a bit complicated, though it'd be nice, I think it's falling in the "nice" versus "necessary" category. Perhaps start with the basics, and leave that as an option to expand to later?

Easy for you to say nightshade, I dont see any updo sabotaging layers in your hair.:p, I agree it is a bit complicated at this point, I like the idea so much that I got ahead of myself.

[ChatoyantLocks]

Perhaps instead of making that an option, just have the types of toys listed with the style?

For instance if you click on Gibraltar Bun:

Gibraltar Bun

How to (pics videos)

Works with these toys

I think layers or no may be a bit complicated, though it'd be nice, I think it's falling in the "nice" versus "necessary" category. Perhaps start with the basics, and leave that as an option to expand to later?

I'm willing to add in toys (or other info) on the earlier side, if someone is willing to make a list of the toys that can be used with each hair style. It's not the search function that is complicated, it is the data gathering!

[Nightshade]

Easy for you to say nightshade, I dont see any updo sabotaging layers in your hair.:p, I agree it is a bit complicated at this point, I like the idea so much that I got ahead of myself.

LOL, actually I DO have layers, although just longer ones in the front, none in the back. Once your hair is a bit longer they lay in nicely, I promise :flowers:

[Alaskanheart]

Would you like to volunteer? :twisted: I still need someone to run a survey on hair difficulty levels (1=easy, 2=medium, 3=difficult).


I certaintly would like to volunteer, but I have a note from my parents:o

I do want to help, Im moving from California to Alaska.Driving up with a trailer hitched to my truck, and Im leaving on Sunday...But as soon as I get settled, (a few weeks), I can help you with whatever job(s) you want to give me. Survey sounds like fun.

[Alaskanheart]

LOL, actually I DO have layers, although just longer ones in the front, none in the back. Once your hair is a bit longer they lay in nicely, I promise :flowers:

Okay Ill take your word for it.;)

[ChatoyantLocks]

I certaintly would like to volunteer, but I have a note from my parents:o

I do want to help, Im moving from California to Alaska.Driving up with a trailer hitched to my truck, and Im leaving on Sunday...But as soon as I get settled, (a few weeks), I can help you with whatever job(s) you want to give me. Survey sounds like fun.

Ok, a move to a different state qualifies as a good excuse! :)

Is anyone else interested in taking on this part of the project?

[Nightshade]

I'd help, but I'm useless with numbers :( I'm good at writing, though :)

Another idea, what about "prerequisite styles" for each one?

For instance, you'd need to know how to do a cinnabun to do a fig8 or infinity, or a dutch braid to do a braided crown sort of thing.

[Stevy]

I'd help, but I'm useless with numbers :( I'm good at writing, though :)

Another idea, what about "prerequisite styles" for each one?

For instance, you'd need to know how to do a cinnabun to do a fig8 or infinity, or a dutch braid to do a braided crown sort of thing.

I think that's an awesome idea (in fact, I think this whole list is an awesome idea in general) - for ages I couldn't manage a rope braid, and I used to get so frustrated with updo instructions that started 'Make a rope braid'. :evil:

[Samikha]

Heh, like recommended previous courses in university. Good idea, too, I wouldn't have a chance at most buns before the cinnamon bun :)

This kinda makes me want to have a reward system for the participants :lol: Like, if you complete all the difficult styles you can call yourself a...um, I fail to think of any cool words, but I betcha Nightshade could, judging by the titles of the Long-haired Order:cool:

Also, I have one more suggestion: I agree that most styles are either one, dead easy, two, some work but not that hard, and three, quite complicated - but then there are some styles that you need an assistant or two for and preferably Stallone's arm muscles. I would like to see a hardcore grade: 4. For the thrill-seekers:eyebrows:

[ChatoyantLocks]

Also, I have one more suggestion: I agree that most styles are either one, dead easy, two, some work but not that hard, and three, quite complicated - but then there are some styles that you need an assistant or two for and preferably Stallone's arm muscles. I would like to see a hardcore grade: 4. For the thrill-seekers:eyebrows:

Fine by me! :D

1=easy, 2=medium, 3=hard, 4=stunt level

[Nightshade]

This kinda makes me want to have a reward system for the participants :lol: Like, if you complete all the difficult styles you can call yourself a...um, I fail to think of any cool words, but I betcha Nightshade could, judging by the titles of the Long-haired Order:cool:

Also, I have one more suggestion: I agree that most styles are either one, dead easy, two, some work but not that hard, and three, quite complicated - but then there are some styles that you need an assistant or two for and preferably Stallone's arm muscles. I would like to see a hardcore grade: 4. For the thrill-seekers:eyebrows:

:lol: I finish up in that thread and it takes me a second not to come over here and say, "Quath! Thy efforts towards this cannon of hairstyles doth render my heart aflight!"


Fine by me! :D

1=easy, 2=medium, 3=hard, 4=stunt level

ROFL Stunt level or "Mutants Only- third or fourth arm required" :lol: I'm cool with 4 levels.

[ChatoyantLocks]

Hark! Someone hath rope braided my threads! :(

[LeaM07]

Here's another one for the list: Amoretti's Falling Out Bun (http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=78537)

[Arctic]

French roll (http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=74315&highlight=horizontal+french+twist)

[dorothea-brooke]

There's also eadwine's Cheater's Figure 8 bun, which I haven't seen listed here yet (sorry if I missed it).

I think it's okay to post the links here since they're not to her private LHC album but to an offsite website she links to in her sig. (eadwine, hope this is okay!)

Instructions (http://www.whiterosecreations.nl/updos/#27)
Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E3_m1yWsCg)

[plainjanegirl]

Wow ! I think everybody is jumping on board with this. This is gonna be so awesome.

[Samikha]

Quath! Thy efforts towards this cannon of hairstyles doth render my heart aflight!"

*smothers laugh*:D

Thank you, LeaM07, Arctic and dorothea-brooke! This is progressing nicely :)

ChatoyantLocks, some styles that I found and have included in my list:

Braided fancy bun (no real name, but a lovely result and a video)
Braided Comet knot
Celtic bun
Classic basic braids with bun
Long clamp
Orchid wrap (one of those rumoury legendary ones)
Roped figure eight bun
Rosestem braid
Stardust style (Yvaine's pirate ship hairdo) (Isilya)

Also, I have the double-looped knot written up as Twitch's double-looped knot, as that is what KarenLynn calls it in the style article. That's it for now. *salutes and departs*

[KarenLynn]

Samikha - you're right, as far as I know the style was Twitch's invention. I just redid the instructions, as her website with the original ones had fallen off the internet.

[EmmaRose]

Err, what about "Yavaine's hairdo" from Stardust.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=10925

Isilya did an excellent job figuring out how to do that.

[KarenLynn]

By the way, there's another style also called the pretzel bun. Invented by aisling, attempt at instructions with pictures by me. They're in my old photo thread, which means a lot of people probably can't access it now. Should I repost it somewhere? If so, where? Oh, wait, I think that one got its own thread somewhere. Maybe in the articles section. I can't remember.

Anyway, the same question applies to more odds and ends that are in the access restricted parts of the old board. Where do they go?

Also, I don't see laurahborealis' easy hairstick bun (http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=61953) mentioned yet.

Oh, oh, or exclusively_di's unnamed bun. I'm not sure I could ever dig up those instructions again, but they're on the old board somewhere.

Uh, one more. Something I call a lazy French twist. I do have instructions, but the pictures are of truly sad quality. I don't suppose anyone with 21"-ish hair would care to redo them?

Oh yes, and the combo knot - a combination of the double-looped knot and the KL knot. aisling's invention again. I'm not sure if there are picture instructions in existence for this one.

[ChatoyantLocks]

Thank you so much for the additional names!:flowers: I just added them into the list!

[Samikha]

They're in my old photo thread, which means a lot of people probably can't access it now. Should I repost it somewhere? If so, where? Oh, wait, I think that one got its own thread somewhere. Maybe in the articles section. I can't remember.

Anyway, the same question applies to more odds and ends that are in the access restricted parts of the old board. Where do they go?


Like KarenLynn pointed out in my blog, these questions are important. If the users are still around, we can ask them, but what about styles by users who have left, in parts of the old site that aren't accessible by new members? It feels a bit impolite to just take their creations and repost, and we certainly can't take the pictures. Do we just skip them? It seems a pity.

[ChatoyantLocks]

Like KarenLynn pointed out in my blog, these questions are important. If the users are still around, we can ask them, but what about styles by users who have left, in parts of the old site that aren't accessible by new members? It feels a bit impolite to just take their creations and repost, and we certainly can't take the pictures. Do we just skip them? It seems a pity.

Would it work if someone learned how to do the style, and then wrote up new directions for it in their own words, and with their own pictures, but giving credit to the original source?

[KarenLynn]

I would think so. That's what I did with the double-looped knot, and I haven't gotten any flack for that later.

Any mods want to weigh in on this?

[plainjanegirl]

Now is our hair dictionary when completed gonna be in an area where you have to be a member or open to the public including visitors?
Cause I know several members of another group (not a hair one) that I am a member of who would love to learn some new styles for their long hair, but they don't wanna join and feel committed to another group.

[Tressie]

The idea came up in another thread of developing a size chart for hair styles. Some hair styles work well for certain lengths and thicknesses of hair, and not for others. This would greatly help for people who are trying to figure out what styles will work for the length they are at, and save time and frustration, since they can avoid ones that just won't work.

I'm going to start this off by asking people to list names of hair styles they know about. If a style has more than one name, please mention that as well. I'm also going to limit this to styles that don't involve back combing, heat styling, or other methods that are likely to damage hair. As names are added, I will periodically edit this top post, and add the names to the list. (I will put up future posts to get information about whether or not the styles work for your hair, so leave that info off for now.)
:blossom::blossom::blossom:

Banded ponytail [AKA Caterpillar, Purplebubba's sleep braid]
Bantu knots
Basic braid [AKA Three strand braid, English braid]
Beavertail Braid
Bee butt bun
Bee butt bun (beadedbudgie's)
Bee butt bun "Christmas" variation
Braided cinnamon bun
Braided Chinese bun
Braided comet knot
Braided cornrows
Braided fancy bun
Braided figure eight bun
Braided orchid bun
Braid Flip (AprilElf's)
Braid Knot
Braid-over-braid updo
Bun (exclusively_di's)
Cage braid
Celtic bun
Celtic knot bun
Celtic knot bun (Cinnamon Hair's)
Cheater's figure eight bun (eadwine's)
Chinese bun
Calssic basic braids with bun
Classic Dutch braids with bun
Classic French braids with bun
Classic French five strand braids with braided tail
Classic Herringbone braids with bun
Classic Frech rope braids with bun
Classic twist with bun
Cinnamon bun [AKA Cinnabun]
Combo knot (aisling's)
Coronet braid
Coronet bun (mira-chan's)
Crown braid
Double basic braids
Double cinnamon buns horizontal
Double cinnamon buns vertical
Double drape ladder
Double Dutch braids
Double four strand box braid
Double four strand flat braid
Double four strand rope braids
Double French braids
Double French five strand braids
Double French rope braids
Double herringbone braids
Double looped knot (Twitch's)
Double rope braids
Double rose buns (AprilElf's)
Double rose buns horizontal
Double rose buns vertical
Dutch braid
Easy hairstick bun (laurahborealis')
Edwardian twist
Equilibrium bun
Fake bob trick (Cuddledumplin's)
Falling out bun (Amoretti's)
Ficcare braid
Figure eight bun
Five strand braid
Flower bun (Isilya's)
Four strand box braid
Four strand flat braid
Four strand rope braid (Elainehali's)
Flipped bun
French braid
French roll
French rope
French twist
French twist bun (Hypnotica's)
Gibraltar bun (Cortese's)
Gibson pompadour
Gibson tuck
Hair knot
Half up cinnamon bun
Heidi braids
Herringbone braid [AKA fish tail braid]
Horseshoe braid
Infinity bun
Japanese bun
KarenLynn knot (long version)
KarenLynn knot (short version)
Lace braid
Lazy bun (Trolleypup's)
Lazy French twist
Lazy wrap bun
Long clamp
Log roll
Moezland bun [AKA Seashell bun]
Nautilus bun [AKA Inside-out bun]
Nine strand braid
Orchid bun
Orchid wrap
Peacock twist
Perimeter braid
Pig tails
Pinless braided bun
Poledra bun (icydove's)
Pony tail
Pony Wrapped Stick Bun (capelli_lunghi's)
Pretzel bun
Pretzel bun (aisling's)
Puffy bun
Romantic French Twist (Hypnotica's)
Rope braid
Roped figure eight bun
Rose bun [AKA Rope braid bun]
Rose bun with four strand braid
Rosestem braid
Rosette bun
Seven strand braid
Side bun
Six strand braid
Snake bun [AKA Herringbone braid bun]
Sock bun [AKA Kitty bun]
Sock bun (Veronique's)
Spiral french braid
Spiral french rope braid
Spirit bun (Spiritlocks's)
Stardust style (Yvaine's pirate ship hairdo) (Isilya)
Swirly bun (Leia's)
Topsy bun (Lil_irish_angel's)
Tri-coil bun
Twisted cornrows
Victorian Updo
Woven bun (Isilya's)
Wrapped bun
Wrapped bun (KarenLynn's)
Wrapped hairstick bun (Amoretti's)



Note: I'm not familiar with a lot of these styles. Please let me know if you see duplicate styles in my list under different names! (or any other errors - spelling, attributions etc.) The attributions are meant to be for the person who came up with the style, or a particular variation of a style, as opposed to someone who just demonstrated a known style.
ChatoyantLocks, You are amazing! Wow, what a list of styles..... she said with her mouth hanging open! Great idea! I wish I could add something, but I am a long hair styling novice. I have always worn my hair down or up in a ponytail on top of my head or at the nape and I have the short nape hairs to prove it.....sigh! I am getting inspired by this board though, let me tell ya! LOL! I have recently found an old set of wooden chop stix which I sanded and used to do any eternity bun........well sort of an eternity bun, but it was amazing to my DS that all I was holding it up with were those two chop stix, ha, ha! Happy hair to you!

[fae]

I am in awe of the list you have compiled so far.

It seems so vast and overwhelming. I would love to help in someday, but I am a hair idiot and I collapse under stress.

Thanks for going thru with this.

[ChatoyantLocks]

Now is our hair dictionary when completed gonna be in an area where you have to be a member or open to the public including visitors?
Cause I know several members of another group (not a hair one) that I am a member of who would love to learn some new styles for their long hair, but they don't wanna join and feel committed to another group.

I've been giving this project a lot of thought and I don't think it is possible for me to put it directly up on this site. This kind of dictionary really needs a program in order to be able to function properly, and this site is more of a bulletin board. Additionally, I need to be able to access the program easily so that I can add more information and generally keep it up to date. I think I'm going to have to put it up on a separate site of my own, but I'm a little concerned about that, because I know that this site is very worried about "self promotion". I have no intention of doing anything commercial with it - I'm just trying to figure out a way to organize a list of hair styles that is useful, and make it generally available to other people who would find that useful. I could really use some feedback from the mods on this one!

[ChatoyantLocks]

ChatoyantLocks, You are amazing! Wow, what a list of styles..... she said with her mouth hanging open! Great idea! I wish I could add something, but I am a long hair styling novice. I have always worn my hair down or up in a ponytail on top of my head or at the nape and I have the short nape hairs to prove it.....sigh! I am getting inspired by this board though, let me tell ya! LOL! I have recently found an old set of wooden chop stix which I sanded and used to do any eternity bun........well sort of an eternity bun, but it was amazing to my DS that all I was holding it up with were those two chop stix, ha, ha! Happy hair to you!

Thank you! :) I'm pretty much a novice, too! I just started learning how to do some of these hairstyles a few weeks back when I found this site. Before that I was basically limited to a couple of braid variations. I haven't even tried an eternity bun yet!


I am in awe of the list you have compiled so far.

It seems so vast and overwhelming. I would love to help in someday, but I am a hair idiot and I collapse under stress.

Thanks for going thru with this.

Thanks! I really like making lists, and that is helping a lot, but even with that it is still definitely overwhelming! Fortunately some great people are helping me gather information! Many thanks to Samikha, EmmaRose, and plainjanegirl!!! :) Also, thanks to everyone who has contributed information to the lists, surveys and general discussion!

[ChatoyantLocks]

I think I'm winding down on collecting names for hair styles. I'll add more if they show up, but I'm going to start concentrating on another section.

I want to make the hair styles searchable by feature. By feature I mean some aspect inherent in the design. So far I have braids, buns, doubles (two buns, for example), and twists. I have a couple of questions for people. What in your mind counts as a twist? Obviously a French twist is a twist, but what about Rope braids? Or a Cinnamon bun? All of them involve twisting hair, but in your mind, is this a "twist"? Are there any other obvious features I am missing?

[dorothea-brooke]

I think I'm winding down on collecting names for hair styles. I'll add more if they show up, but I'm going to start concentrating on another section.

I want to make the hair styles searchable by feature. By feature I mean some aspect inherent in the design. So far I have braids, buns, doubles (two buns, for example), and twists. I have a couple of questions for people. What in your mind counts as a twist? Obviously a French twist is a twist, but what about Rope braids? Or a Cinnamon bun? All of them involve twisting hair, but in your mind, is this a "twist"? Are there any other obvious features I am missing?

I think "twist" should designate any updo that requires, well, twisting the hair -- so a Cinnabun would count in this category. It seems like many folks want to hear about updos that don't require any twisting (for kink-leaving reasons), so it would be helpful to have the twisty ones in their own category (or at least designated as such). :twocents:

[ChatoyantLocks]

I think "twist" should designate any updo that requires, well, twisting the hair -- so a Cinnabun would count in this category. It seems like many folks want to hear about updos that don't require any twisting (for kink-leaving reasons), so it would be helpful to have the twisty ones in their own category (or at least designated as such). :twocents:

Thanks! That makes sense/cents. :)

[plainjanegirl]

I agree with the cinnabun, bee but, etc. should fall into twist. Any type of bun that you wrap would be in a different category.

[KarenLynn]

Maybe knots could be a separate category? And perhaps also wrapped/non-twisted updos? Just a thought.

[Stevy]

I'm a little concerned about that, because I know that this site is very worried about "self promotion". I have no intention of doing anything commercial with it - I'm just trying to figure out a way to organize a list of hair styles that is useful, and make it generally available to other people who would find that useful. I could really use some feedback from the mods on this one!

Have you tried PMing the mods directly? Whenever I've PMed them, I've always got a quick and friendly response. Myself, I'd think this was more of a service to the community like CinnamonHair's Ficcare catalogs page rather then a commercial site, but I am not a mod - and a good thing too, I get far too offended and take it personally when people are taking jabs at me online. :blushing:

I think this is a great idea. When will you be wanting people to start trying and reviewing the hairstyles for the difficulty list? I tried KarenLynn's beautiful knot last weekend and was very sad that at 38" or so ii I have too much hair for it. :(

Stevy

[dorothea-brooke]

I think this is a great idea. When will you be wanting people to start trying and reviewing the hairstyles for the difficulty list? I tried KarenLynn's beautiful knot last weekend and was very sad that at 38" or so ii I have too much hair for it. :(

Stevy



Stevy, do you know there's a version for longer hair as well? I believe it involves wrapping the tail (once it comes out of the knot) around the base of the knot as many times as you need to.... I'm pretty sure it should work with your length hair.

:flower:

[Stevy]

Stevy, do you know there's a version for longer hair as well? I believe it involves wrapping the tail (once it comes out of the knot) around the base of the knot as many times as you need to.... I'm pretty sure it should work with your length hair.

:flower:



No, I didn't know about that! I've got my hair wrapped up in a scarf at present because I'm snatching a moment from painting the kitchen, but as soon as I can take it down without the fear of getting paint all over it I'll give that a go. Thanks so much! It's such a pretty style, and I'd really like to be able to master it. :flowers:

[plainjanegirl]

Have you tried PMing the mods directly? Whenever I've PMed them, I've always got a quick and friendly response. Myself, I'd think this was more of a service to the community like CinnamonHair's Ficcare catalogs page rather then a commercial site, but I am not a mod - and a good thing too, I get far too offended and take it personally when people are taking jabs at me online. :blushing:

I think this is a great idea. When will you be wanting people to start trying and reviewing the hairstyles for the difficulty list? I tried KarenLynn's beautiful knot last weekend and was very sad that at 38" or so ii I have too much hair for it. :(

Stevy


My hair is waist length but due to the thickness I still cannot do a figure 8 or a pretzel bun.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=11181
That should be the link for rating the difficulty of styles.

[dorothea-brooke]

No, I didn't know about that! I've got my hair wrapped up in a scarf at present because I'm snatching a moment from painting the kitchen, but as soon as I can take it down without the fear of getting paint all over it I'll give that a go. Thanks so much! It's such a pretty style, and I'd really like to be able to master it. :flowers:

Here's the link (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=30) for the longer version. :flower:

I agree, it's a beautiful style -- my problem is my hair's still a bit too short! :silly: I can get the hair into a knot, but the tail isn't quite long enough to keep from slipping out....

[Stevy]

My hair is waist length but due to the thickness I still cannot do a figure 8 or a pretzel bun.
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=11181
That should be the link for rating the difficulty of styles.

Thanks! :)

[ChatoyantLocks]

Have you tried PMing the mods directly? Whenever I've PMed them, I've always got a quick and friendly response. Myself, I'd think this was more of a service to the community like CinnamonHair's Ficcare catalogs page rather then a commercial site, but I am not a mod - and a good thing too, I get far too offended and take it personally when people are taking jabs at me online. :blushing:

I think this is a great idea. When will you be wanting people to start trying and reviewing the hairstyles for the difficulty list? I tried KarenLynn's beautiful knot last weekend and was very sad that at 38" or so ii I have too much hair for it. :(
Stevy

PMing them directly is a good idea! :) I'll do it sometime today!

The difficulty list is currently being calculated. The size chart survey is probably going to be part of the program, given that there is going to be a graph produced for each hair style.

[NurseMama]

I just want to chime in and give you encouragement to keep going! I am so excited to see the results and I know that this entails a HUGE amount of work! Thank you so much!

[ChatoyantLocks]

I just want to chime in and give you encouragement to keep going! I am so excited to see the results and I know that this entails a HUGE amount of work! Thank you so much!

Thank you! :) Encouragement helps a lot! I'm glad people are excited by the project - it makes it a lot easier to sit down and do the next step in the process.

[ChatoyantLocks]

Maybe knots could be a separate category? And perhaps also wrapped/non-twisted updos? Just a thought.

Ok, I'm working on these now. I'm labeling anything that is called a "knot" a knot, but are there any styles on my list that are knots, and don't say so in their name?

Does it count as wrapped/non twisted if it is in a braid? Or would that kind of remove the point of identifying them?

[KarenLynn]

Ok, I'm working on these now. I'm labeling anything that is called a "knot" a knot, but are there any styles on my list that are knots, and don't say so in their name?

Not off the top of my head, but then I can't claim that I immediately know what all of the styles listed are like. That reminds me, is a knot bun on that list? If not, could it be? It's a knot, and then the length wrapped around in a bun, so I think it would qualify for both those groups.


Does it count as wrapped/non twisted if it is in a braid? Or would that kind of remove the point of identifying them?

I suppose braids technically do qualify in that group too, but I'm not sure if it would be useful practically speaking to put it there. I'm guessing people would look for them in the braid category. Just my opinion, though.

Another small addition to the master list of updos: the lazy wrap bun is also known as the non-twisted bun, posted by onceagain.

This is a great project! I hope it turns out to be as wonderful as it sounds.

[ChatoyantLocks]

That reminds me, is a knot bun on that list? If not, could it be? It's a knot, and then the length wrapped around in a bun, so I think it would qualify for both those groups.


No, I don't have that one yet! Thanks! :)



Another small addition to the master list of updos: the lazy wrap bun is also known as the non-twisted bun, posted by onceagain.


I currently have Lazy wrap bun (savi's). Is that the same one or a different one? And if it is the same, whose is it?



This is a great project! I hope it turns out to be as wonderful as it sounds.

So do I! :)

[KarenLynn]

The lazy wrap bun is the same style as the non-twisted bun, which was posted by onceagain back in 2005. Her instructions (without pictures) are on the old board.

[Samikha]

I have that one written up as:
Lazy wrap bun (savi's) [AKA Non-Twist Bun (onceagain's)]
So it should be fairly clear.

There was another thing I was wondering about, what sort of styles do we include? Just general "classic" ones or should we have a separate category for, say, movie styles, LotR, Star Wars and similar? Link to the sort of sites that have these things? Ignore them altogether?

I'm more for the latter option, as it's a genre of its own in my opinion. And also, I don't want to end up having to research every obscure movie style in the universe. Sometimes LHC members figure these things out for themselves, like Isilya's Stardust 'do, and these should be included, methinks, as it's community relevant and originated here.

I keep coming across these when I google for styles, and I was wondering what everyone else thinks:)

[dorothea-brooke]

I think you (we) should include styles that LHCers have discussed and researched, like the Stardust do, but certainly you shouldn't worry about tracking down every new movie hairstyle in the universe unless it's already been done for you! :silly:

How about a "Movies/TV/Media" category???

[Samikha]

I think you (we) should include styles that LHCers have discussed and researched, like the Stardust do, but certainly you shouldn't worry about tracking down every new movie hairstyle in the universe unless it's already been done for you! :silly:

How about a "Movies/TV/Media" category???

That sounds like a great idea! It would add a lot to the work, but at least putting some links out there would be good, as there are quite a few sites that specialize in movie 'dos. And there are so many beautiful ones, it seems a great pity to ignore it altogether.

[ChatoyantLocks]

I just wanted to let people know that I've started assembling the database. :)

[plainjanegirl]

So is it gonna be on here or on a site of its own?

Keep up the great work!! I am looking forward to seeing it and bragging about it so others will want to check it out!!!

[ChatoyantLocks]

So is it gonna be on here or on a site of its own?


I'm waiting to hear back from the mod I wrote to. :) (She has been on vacation.)

[ChatoyantLocks]

Ok, I checked in with one of the admins, and what I am going to do is to start it up as a separate site so I have easy access to the program while it is in development, and then later a decision will be made about whether to keep it separate, or to fuse it into LHC.

While it is a separate site, anyone will be able to access it, and run searches on the styles, without having to log in.

I may have one section that will need a password. I've been realizing that the survey for hair length/width in relation to hair style is going to be complicated enough that it is going to need a program to run and graph it. The password will be to keep trolls from plugging in random data and messing up the graphs. I'll put up more info about that when I get to that stage of development.

[plainjanegirl]

Ok, I checked in with one of the admins, and what I am going to do is to start it up as a separate site so I have easy access to the program while it is in development, and then later a decision will be made about whether to keep it separate, or to fuse it into LHC.

While it is a separate site, anyone will be able to access it, and run searches on the styles, without having to log in.

I may have one section that will need a password. I've been realizing that the survey for hair length/width in relation to hair style is going to be complicated enough that it is going to need a program to run and graph it. The password will be to keep trolls from plugging in random data and messing up the graphs. I'll put up more info about that when I get to that stage of development.


I can't wait to check it out!!! And I know alot of girls who are not members here who will ove to see a site like how it sounds like it is gonna be.
I am sure this task is complicated at times. Just let us all know if you need any more help.

[Samikha]

While it is a separate site, anyone will be able to access it, and run searches on the styles, without having to log in.

That sounds just right! I'll be starting a new thread soon to see if anyone has the links I lack, and I'm so glad that this is really happening. Thanks for all your hard work :)

[Silver & Gold]

I have nothing to contribute at this time but I can't wait to see it when you're done. What a great idea!

[happymommy]

Question! Are you still taking hairstyle submissions? Because I have been spending an inordinate amount of time on the old board archived articles and have found a couple of styles that aren't listed.

Oh, how I long for enough hair to do a decadent Tower of Babel :) Or a decent Wreath bun.

[ChatoyantLocks]

Question! Are you still taking hairstyle submissions? Because I have been spending an inordinate amount of time on the old board archived articles and have found a couple of styles that aren't listed.


It is fine to list more hair styles! :) I'm currently working on the data that I've already gathered, but at some point I'll go back, and fill in gaps, so feel free to list them here on the thread! I suspect new stuff will be trickling in for quite some time. There are a lot of styles out there!

[ChatoyantLocks]

I've gotten the initial database set up, and I've started programming! :) The first version of the program will read the database, search for the features and difficulty levels selected, and list hair styles (and links for directions on how to do those styles) that meet those requirements.

[Silver & Gold]

:disco: :happydance: :pray: :joy: :cheese:

This is gonna be soooooo cool!

[plainjanegirl]

I can't wait!!!!! So excited to see this.

[soleluna]

Can I submit this?
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=55

[ChatoyantLocks]

The program is up! :)

The first version of it, anyway. It is still very bare bones, and does not yet have photos, or size graphs, or even explanatory text. I'll put those in later. For right now I wanted to get this out so I can start getting feedback on the basic functionality, so take a look and let me know what you think!

http://hairstyledictionary.ztn.net/

[Silver & Gold]

Awesome! Can't wait to share this with my daughter-in-law. I've been using several of the tutorials I find here and other place online to help her learn new updos.
You are soooo awesome for doing this!

[SweetPea88]

This is great! Thanks are in order for everyone who helped out! :flowers:

[soleluna]

yay! lovely

[happymommy]

Horray!!!!!!!

[happymommy]

OOOOOOOOO!!!!! I :heart: it :)

Now I'm going to spend all day playing with it!

:joy: :cloud9:

[WavyGirl]

That's so cool. Thanks for doing all that work. :bowtome:

[Stevy]

Working great for me! Thanks so much for all your hard work!

[Samikha]

Looking good! It works perfectly, thank you so much for putting this together :)

Ideas for v 1.1: Browse-by-picture and random button. (I love random buttons!):D

[WavyGirl]

Looking good! It works perfectly, thank you so much for putting this together :)

Ideas for v 1.1: Browse-by-picture and random button. (I love random buttons!):D

LOL. Not that we expect a lot or anything. :gabigrin:

[Xanthippe]

The program is up! :)

The first version of it, anyway. It is still very bare bones, and does not yet have photos, or size graphs, or even explanatory text. I'll put those in later. For right now I wanted to get this out so I can start getting feedback on the basic functionality, so take a look and let me know what you think!

http://hairstyledictionary.ztn.net/

Amazing! I love it. :D

My suggestions

On the results page, add a title and heading that describes the search terms to get there, like "Buns - Difficulty 3" or something of the like, so that if we bookmark a search we can see what it means immediately.
Since it's possible to search for a range of difficulty levels, I think it would make more sense to be able to sort the results in terms of difficulty, rather than just alphabetical. Same goes for sorting by feature too? Again, not sure if that would be too much clutter. Maybe buttons that let us toggle between the sort by feature, sort by difficulty, and alphabetical sort.
Ability to search by the name of the style?

[Samikha]

LOL. Not that we expect a lot or anything. :gabigrin:

Who, us? :whistle:

[NurseMama]

OMG this is wonderful! I am off to play! Thank you so much for taking the time to do this!

[ChatoyantLocks]

I just wanted to let people know that it looks like I will have time to start working on version 1.1 next week! :D

Thanks for the great feedback and suggestions!:flowers:

[Nightshade]

The program is up! :)

The first version of it, anyway. It is still very bare bones, and does not yet have photos, or size graphs, or even explanatory text. I'll put those in later. For right now I wanted to get this out so I can start getting feedback on the basic functionality, so take a look and let me know what you think!

http://hairstyledictionary.ztn.net/

That, my dear, is frecking AWESOME. Hat's off to all who've been working on this!

[tiny_teesha]

Oh my, this is so awesome!!!! :) I just learnt how to do the Lazy Wrap Bun-and loving it!!!

[physicschick]

I just saw the web program. (Yes, I'm a little slow. :lol: ) Wow! I am seriously impressed. This is already a great tool and promises to be even better in future versions.

[Raven69]

Ok, I read the top(first) post and was disappointed, the title also says "size chart"... I skimmed through some of the posts but did not see it. Can you please point me in the right direction or link to the size/length charts, thank you kindly!

[Samikha]

Ok, I read the top(first) post and was disappointed, the title also says "size chart"... I skimmed through some of the posts but did not see it. Can you please point me in the right direction or link to the size/length charts, thank you kindly!

Raven69, this is a work in progress. The size chart isn't there yet, but hopefully it will be eventually:flower:

[Phalaenopsis]

I love the idea, but you forgot my name with the braid-over-braid updo (since everyone else's name is next to their updo...:o)

Great work though!

[WritingPrincess]

I haven't read the whole thread, but does anyone know where I could learn the "Christmas variation" of the bee-end bun?

[Raven69]

Raven69, this is a work in progress. The size chart isn't there yet, but hopefully it will be eventually:flower:

Ah, I see - thank you Samikha! :boohoo:

[ChatoyantLocks]

Version 1.1 is up! Let me know what you think of it, if you find any bugs, if anything is confusing, or if there is anything you would like me to consider adding. :)



Ideas for v 1.1: Browse-by-picture and random button. (I love random buttons!):D

Wish granted on the random button!:D

Browsing by picture will have to wait until a later version that has pictures, but I am planning to put that feature in eventually.




My suggestions
On the results page, add a title and heading that describes the search terms to get there, like "Buns - Difficulty 3" or something of the like, so that if we bookmark a search we can see what it means immediately.

Wish granted!:D



Since it's possible to search for a range of difficulty levels, I think it would make more sense to be able to sort the results in terms of difficulty, rather than just alphabetical. Same goes for sorting by feature too? Again, not sure if that would be too much clutter. Maybe buttons that let us toggle between the sort by feature, sort by difficulty, and alphabetical sort.

Interesting idea. I'm still thinking through possibilities for implementation.



Ability to search by the name of the style?

Wish granted! :D


I love the idea, but you forgot my name with the braid-over-braid updo (since everyone else's name is next to their updo...:o)


Name added! :D And if anyone else sees anything like this that I've overlooked, let me know. It's a big database, and I'm not familiar with a lot of the styles, so there is probably information missing.

[WritingPrincess]

Wonderful! Where do I find this?

[ChatoyantLocks]

Wonderful! Where do I find this?

http://hairstyledictionary.ztn.net/

[Kiraela]

Can I add a style? I call it the Hot Cross Buns, I don't know if it's got another name, or not....

Pic and description here: http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/album.php?albumid=703&pictureid=20980

I hope it makes it in - I figure it's probably a level 3 or 4 for difficulty,and needs pretty long hair - roughly 36" for my 4" circumference hair.

[Samikha]

Yay! Random button! *pushes it repeatedly* Thank you so much for working on this, ChatoyantLocks :) I learned a new one today :D


Can I add a style? I call it the Hot Cross Buns, I don't know if it's got another name, or not....

Pic and description here: http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/album.php?albumid=703&pictureid=20980

I hope it makes it in - I figure it's probably a level 3 or 4 for difficulty,and needs pretty long hair - roughly 36" for my 4" circumference hair.

Kiraela, I'm going to use you as an example for a moment ;)

Do we add links that lead to albums etc? These are off-limits for everyone but the LHC members, and it seems a little discourteous to keep it as an internal base in that way. And also, a member may decide to make the album friends-only for whatever reason, or delete the picture...I have found some style instructions in albums, but so far have not added them except as names. I figure I could ask the members if they'd consider submitting it as an article - in other words, publicly - if that will be the policy.

[unaspenser]

I just want to know I found the hair style dictionary via stumble and was thrilled with it. You're going to get a lot of hits on that thing. *clicks random button* *bookmarks*

[ChatoyantLocks]

I haven't read the whole thread, but does anyone know where I could learn the "Christmas variation" of the bee-end bun?

I finally found it! :) Turns out I had the name wrong. Here is the link: http://archive.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=52632 and I will be adding it into the database at some point soon.

[Xanthippe]

Wish granted!:D

Awesome! I love the new version! :D Thanks so much, ChatoyantLocks!

[tiny_teesha]

I have a few styles i made up to add:
Sushi bun (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=28748)
Puffy Bow Hairstyle (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=20601)
Folded First English Braid (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=4033)
Braid weave (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=7485)
:)

[Cupofmilk]

Good idea. I have thick ish hair and styles which I should in theory be able to do - I can't as I have too much hair eg Nautilus bun still can't do and I am nearly hip.

[Arya]

I'd like to add the updo I invented - the Yulia Crown Braid. It's different from a crown braid, because it allows you to keep a part in your hair, and there's no part at the back.
video instructions here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGaTcuEEZdw
and pictorial instructions here: http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=65871&highlight=Yulia+hair