I saw there is a thread called bsl to waist, and I have been at waist for some time now and I'm heading towards tailbone. I wanted to ask people how long it took them and if you had to tweak your routine on your way. Just talk about the journey:)
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I saw there is a thread called bsl to waist, and I have been at waist for some time now and I'm heading towards tailbone. I wanted to ask people how long it took them and if you had to tweak your routine on your way. Just talk about the journey:)
I am currently brushing hip with a U hemline. When the top of the U reaches hip, I plan to :scissors: about 2 inches to thicken my hemline and hopefully get rid of a lot of the taper. Then I'll be on my way to TB!! :cheese:
My current rountine is WO. I've been doing that now for 5 months and really like it. I'm only shedding about 10-20 hairs a day since I started it. I also henna every 2 months.
The last time I cut my hair was January 2006. But before the cut I was at BSL with long layers and I wanted it all one length to grow out. So I had it cut to shoulder length. So from shoulder to hip in 2.5 years isn't bad.
I've passed my waist area and I think I'm solidly in hip range these days. I haven't done any changes to my routine but I do wear it up most of the time.
I passed waist in november or so, and now I am at hip... I actually planned to stay here for a while and thicken my ends, but they don't look that bad, so I think I'll just let it grow... I hope I get down to tailbone until december.
I've been at waist for a while, too, and my goal is tailbone. My hair has recently become wavier and looks shorter than waist :twisted:, but stretched it's definitely around hip area. That's my longest layer and fairytale ends, though, as I'm growing from a shoulder length layered cut without trimming. The shortest layer is currently past BSL.
To reach tailbone I need another 5-6 inches, which I hope I'll get by summer 2009. Since BSL I've had slightly less than average growth speed. Maybe some supplements will speed things up - I've heard good things about kelp and horsetail. I tried miconazole (Daktarin) but haven't had spectacular results.
Recently, I've discovered I really need to put my hair up the majority of the time, especially when out of the house. OK, I might wear my hair down for a night out, but on the way there (and back) it *has* to be safely contained. Otherwise it can tangle badly, not to mention get caught in straps, doors, elbows... I also braid for sleeping.
Now, I hope that someone who has actually reached tailbone will reply to your question, Isilme! I just wanted to join the W2T crowd...:D
hahaha I'll do another 'this is my journey' post.
Like Jel I tried miconizol and had no results from it that I could tell and decided it was too much of a PITA to continue it. I might try it again since I was using it during a growth stall. I was at waist for probably 3 months with no growth, finally it started growing when I wasn't looking and now I'm past the top of my hip bones. When my hair is pulled straight it has about 2 or 3" before tail bone.
My shortest layer is my 'bangs' that are at bsl then I have a few layers in between. I'm wanting to get to tail bone wavy then start trimming about an inch every two months to get rid of the layering, though I kind of like the U shape my hair has so I may keep that.
I know I wear my hair up a lot, and for an evening out when I want my hair down depending on how wet my hair is or how long it's been since I washed I might keep it down on the ride to and fro since putting it up may disrupt the wave. I've found that if I wash in the morning and it's totally dry by the time I go out in the evening I can put it up and it won't mess with the waves, but the slightest moisture and my hair takes on the bun waves. If it's been a day since I washed my hair no matter if it's damp or dry if I put it up it'll take on the bun waves - but usually by second day my waves are looking 'messy' so bun waves tend to be preferable.
You have the most perfect U shape in that pic Euphony! I've been trying to get a nice V going but I can't seem to get it to where I'm happy with it.
My original goal was tailbone but as I get closer and closer I'm pondering shooting for classic. We'll see. :)
I'm on my way from waist to TB as well :) I was really confused about where my waist actually is for quite a while, I thought I wasn't at waist yet but turns out I'm already an inch or two past it. I guess TB will be a bit easier to notice :D Happy growing!
Thank you so much Delenn :flowers:
I was solidly TB until this weekend, when I trimmed off 5" of wispy, see-through ends. Now I'm at hip when stretched and waist+ when curly. My routine was and still is mostly CO with an occasional S when I think it's necessary. I've been using either conditioner mixed with a few drops of jojoba, or coconut oil as a leave-in. I'm trying harder to protect my ends...they were uneven before mostly because of old layering and previous big sheds, but I would like to keep them in good condition and relatively even as they grow back. That means switching from a sleep braid to a sleep bun and being more vigilant about wearing my hair up. The only other difference is that my hair doesn't get caught in my pants anymore!
ETA that it took about 9 months to grow from waist to TB, with an average growth rate of 0.75"/month and no trims.
Well, by my "estimations" it should take me around a year to reach between waist & hip to get to tailbone length.
That is without any trims whatsoever though.
I haven't trimmed since November '07 and that probably doesn't sound like a long time to some of the die hard no-trimmers, but to me, it's seemed like an eternity.
I've always trimmed at least twice a year, so this is a whole new experience for me.
I decided that I wanted to go a bit past tailbone before my next trim because I'm thinking of stalling there for a year to thicken up my hemline a bit.
The only thing that I've noticed growing to tailbone, has more to do with my no-trimming, than anything else, is that my ends have begun to get velcroey (I don't think that's even a word, but oh well) here lately.
Oh and another thing I've noticed at this length, is that I've started having to swing my hair forward when sitting on the toilet, before I didn't have that worry but now, well.............um, without getting too detailed, I've had to start worrying about it.;)
I also think around tailbone length most people have to start thinking of other styles to do with their hair.
I know for me that lately my go-to every day style of a modified cinnamon bun has started to give me troubles.
It takes me 3 or 4 tries to get it up smooth and sturdy, as before I could just literally just throw it up in a couple seconds and be out the door.
You will be suprised at how quickly you get to tailbone though, once you get a bit past waist.;)
Michelle
I'm just above tailbone length, it's only around 3-4 centimetres left, I think. I have a long lower back and I've been trimming off damage and trying to keep a thick and even hemline, getting from waist to tailbone has taken ages. Waist was about 29.5" on me and I reached that in September 2006, tailbone is around 37".
I haven't had to do any major changes but I notice that right now I easily have ends sticking out from almost any bun I try to make. I have to learn to get those properly wrapped under and away.
I was about waist (30") in December 06 and I reached solid TB (37,5") in approx. March/April 08 - so about 15/16 months of growth - and I only trimmed about 2" during that period of time..
I'm maintaining here due to see-through ends.. going to take time -_- so no classic length for me in a year as planned!
My routine HAS changed - but mostly to protect my ends..
I used to shampoo only, then mix it with SC, and now I have to use condish on my ends.. they need the moisture and oils are not doing the jb anymore!
I've found J/A/S/O/N aloe vera shampoo + condish at a local health food store (so excited to find them!) and I'm trying them out now - so far it's good.. It has -cones in it so I was a bit surprised.. and if it suddenly changes I'm going back to my conefree urtekram shampoo + condish..
Tell me about it! I've been having issues getting a regular cinnamon bun to stay put so I've been doing a braided bun pretty much every day because it's quick. I've definitely reached an in-between stage in that department, and can you believe I have yet to be able to do a figure-8? My hair is just so darned thick!
Another one checking in on this journey. I passed waist and I'm about 3-4 inches from tailbone. My hair growth has also slowed down recently... But, I'm still hoping for tailbone by the end of the year.
Well, I was at classic in August 07, but I had majorly bad splits and got low and hacked a lot off (more than I intended because I went back to waist! :o) I didnt bother much with my hair other than being careful with it until January of this year. I just was low and didnt bother to do anything extra (one reason I have put on weight) only wash and try to be gentle. I missed hip really because I didnt realise it was a classification. I am now at tb- just past when dry and way past when wet. Approaching classic.
I dont wear it up all the time but I do try to do so quite a bit for health sake
I am also currently at waist length and it feels like my hair is growing so slowly.
Delenn, a figure-8 may not help you unfortunately. I can do them, but my hair always ends up sliding out after about 4 hours. Which of course I do them with a hair stick, maybe if I had a Ficaare it would hold longer, I dunno?
As for doing a Figure-8, if your familiar with a "bee butt bun", you wrap it up, then take the last coil and pull it up and over to form the "8" and then slide your stick through.
An infinity works the same way, 'cept it looks like a sideways 8.
Someone may have a tutorial here for them, but I haven't done a search since we lost the old forum.
I'm thinking maybe a log roll would be quicker and easier, I know OhioLisa has a tutorial for those on her blog, which I just found a couple days ago.
So I think I'm going to start practicing and see if I can get it down. Maybe it will hold all day?
I hope you find something soon that works for you, especially with summer coming up.
Michelle
I'm on my waist to TB jounrey, too. Recently I'm somewhere between waist and hip, if I measured correctly I might be there in August (I HOPE). I'm wearing my hair up more, although today was a half-up for me.
I really really hope that I'll be a TB by the end of this year.
I am a few inches past waist, I'll be at classic in about two years. So far I haven't had to change my hair care at all. I hear people do around tailbone, so maybe I just haven't hit that point yet.
My hair, when stretched, is currently around hip length. I do have layers from when I cut all the relaxer out of my hair about three years ago, but I am not going for blunt hair of all one length at this point. I would like to reach tailbone by the end of the year. I try to keep my hair up most of the time, though that isn't nearly as easy as it used to be. As others have said, my dependable updos now give me trouble sometimes. I don't like the feeling of pulling on my scalp or the headache I sometimes get if I don't get the hair distributed right. Anyway, I've been trying to keep things real simple, which has pretty much worked well for me along my hair growing journey. I have to detangle my hair at the very least every third day or I get major problems. That's really my only big challenge these days since I cannot brush or comb my hair dry. So I wash/detangle a few times a week and I try not to get lazy about it. I went six days recently and sorely regretted it.
My hair is currently around hip lenght (I just trimmed a little so might be half an inch away). It took me a year to grow from waist to hip, and will take about 6 months to reach tailbone. My hair generally grows slowly, a bit slower than average, but growth always speeds up at summer.
I usually wear my hair bunned or braided. I, too, have had difficulties with my good ol' updos. They just don't work anymore. Recently I have worn my hair on a braided bun held with one hair stick. I read Harpgal's instructions from here http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showpost.php?p=111545&postcount=19 and noticed it works really well.
I reached waist length last spring and am now at hip length. When my hair is streaming down my back in the shower, I can feel it at tailbone. But it's going to be awhile before it's at tailbone while dry. Maybe by the end of the year. Maybe not. I've been trimming all along to keep my ends on the thicker side (I've got taper anyway). I will keep trimming every 3 months or so as my ends stay nicest that way. So it will take as long as it takes, and that's all right with me.
I'm also on my journey between waist and tailbone. I'm currently at "can I call this hip length" and according to some of the replies in the "How do you decide where hip length is?" thread, I probably can call it hip length by now. But stubborn as I am, I still want that missing half inch before I claim solid hip length. I hope I will reach tailbone at the end of the year, which would be waist to TBL in one year. But as my growth has been slower lately, I might need some more time.
I did this journey about ten years ago, but I didn't pay attention to how fast my hair was growing. I was busy with school and only measured my hair occasionally. I think I may have had very slow growth or even a stall at waist, because it felt like I was there forever - I know I was hovering around waist for at least a year. But I was also a trimmer back then, and I can't tell how much of my growth that was trimmed away. Then, when my hair obviously grew again, and I suddenly realized that my hair had got much longer, it felt like my hair had grown just over night... I started to think "is this hip length or do I need more length to call it that?" This was long before I heard of the different names of hair length according to certain parts of the body, and it was most likely well past the LCH definition of hip length by then. And soon enough, the day came when I realized that my hair actually reached into my vertical smile when I was in the shower. Then I started to think "wonder if my hair is butt length yet..."
From lack of knowledge about longhair-care, I did not change my routine as I approached tailbone the last time. As one could expect, my hair, and especially the ends, were in terrible condition then and breaking like crazy. I never made it longer than just past tailbone with my former routine. I have changed everything about my routine since I found LHC, and I'm pretty sure my ends will be in a lot better condition when I reach TBL this time.
What sort of routine changes do you guys plan to do or foresee you might need to do? I honestly haven't thought about it, I figured if everything's still working for me why change. Coconut oil and henna have been my secret weapons and I haven't really needed to do much else.
Well, I imagine that for the next while I'll need to take extra care of my ends. I don't know if they'll make it with me to tailbone. :D They've been every color under the sun and they split but don't break off... but as they age even more I'm guessing I'll notice it more...?
So so far, my only trims have been because I desired to blunt the ends more and when I got tired of S&Ding. I think as I go, trims might become more necessary because of all the damage.
The only thing I can think of right now is washing. I will probably start doing more scalp washes because the longer my hair gets the longer it dries, and the harder it is to detangle after washing. Now I scalp wash maybe every third time and use CO or diluted shampoo other times.
EEEE, finally a journey thread for me! Haha. I'm at waist and I need 6ish more inches to get to tailbone, stretched. I'll need three for hip, so I should be at hip by August, even though I've decided to be conservative and just want hip by Halloween. If I do get to hip by August though, I'll be heading onward to classic for Christmas, lol.
I am currently at this stage too.My hair,I think,has just reached hip length after ages at waist.It's hard to tell.I've noticed that at this length I've had to be extra careful with tangles,so I wear my hair up virtually all of the time to try and minimise the amount I get.
I'd like to join these ranks as well ~ :)
I have been at slightly longer than waist for over a year now...I seem to be stuck on this length because my ends keep splitting so bad that I have to get constant trims.
I hope this isn't terminal for me...I am really looking forward to hitting tailbone. :pray:
I'm about half an inch above my hips at the moment. I was at tailbone until January when I cut off five inches to get rid of some layers.
I am trying to reach the tb length as well but seem to be stuck at hips. Was becoz of my trim a few months back as i was not happy with the ends. I am bit more careful with the no of washes and i truly believe that healthy ends means fast approach towards goal :-) I am also keeping my hair tied/updo's and also not applying as much oil so that i can increase the no of days before wash. Its just like i am trying to forget my hair for a few days. But, my little blood-circulation-scalp-combing is on and it seems to be working fine with me....
chotee
I really can't think of any changes to do either. Perhaps, as Sceleste mentioned, do more scalp washes when it feels like the ends don't need to be conditioned. Other than that, I've already learnt how to protect my ends and take care of them, I had to do that to be able to grow past BSL already. Now it just feels like I can keep on going until I don't feel like I can handle the length anymore, which might be pretty soon.
Yay, a thread for me!
I am currently at "Can I call this hip yet?". I think it's hip when wet at least... I have been growing from a stacked bob since late 2004. During the awkward phases I got several different styles cut into it to make it look a bit 'nicer' along the way. I last got what you would think of as a haircut fall of 2005, and then got a trim in spring of 2007 (for prom!). I'm not planning to trim again until I am an inch past my goal (tailbone), and then I'm going to trim it back and maintain.
Originally I didn't set out to keep it as long as it has gotten. The initial plan was to get it long enough to all fit in a ponytail, but once I started I just couldn't stop! I decided that anything longer than tailbone wouldn't be practical for me, and I guess we'll see if I don't change my mind.
My routine has changed a lot. Once I reached BSL I started realizing that my old mentality of "I should run out of shampoo and conditioner at the same time" just wasn't applicable anymore. I discovered long hair communities online when I was a few inches short of waist and began to oil the ends and focus on shampooing the roots only, always using copious amounts of conditioner. I still haven't been able to shake the daily washing habit because it's still working for me.
On the other hand, my updos have not been cooperating with me. I'm having trouble securing even a cinnamon bun anymore. I'm currently in updo moratorium trying to find a new standby. My hair is so thick and my bun already takes up nearly my whole head as it is. I'm starting to experiment with hairsticks for the first time with some success, but they don't hold for more than an hour or two. I comb my hair two or three times a day to keep the tangles at bay, and I have the bad habit of finger combing in public when my hair is down. Overall, I wear my hair up about 80% of the time, if nothing else in a scrunchie-secured ponytail.
It's lovely to see so many people reply! And there are quite many of us:) It seems like people are taking extra care of their hair now with protecting ends and sleeptime styles.
I'm right at waist now, but was probably at hip some weeks ago before I trimmed off two centimeters, I went from 33, 5 to 32. Now I'm at 32,5. I'm still dealing with chemical damage and it's a hassle sometimes to find products that are moisturizing enought, but at the same time not making my hair limp and over conditioned. I have been bad and have been wearing a braid for a while now, guess that should change. I miss almost being able to tuck my ends into my pants:(
Thank you all for telling me about your journey! It's an honour to be growing together with you;)
I'm going to have to join. I'll be here for a few years unless i decide to chop. JUST reached waist so I am maintaining for a while.
My goal is TB, but knee would be my untimate- we'll see what my taper looks like when i get there.
It took me about 2 years to go from waist to TB. I made it from waist to hip (about 4.5") in a year, and hip to TB (about 2.5") in another year. If I left out trimming it might have been just a tad over a year, but I've found that the longer my hair gets, the more trimming I need to keep the ends looking okay. Going from BSL to waist I don't think I trimmed at all (or if so, barely anything), but once I started getting close to hip, the ends got more raggedy looking.
As far as change in the care of my hair, I don't think it changed that much. But I used updos a ton with waist length, as well as oiling and more gentle washing, and still do now. I do know that having the hair loose at this length is a world of difference than loose waist length hair, so keeping it up more would be more protective (I wear updos about 95% of the time). I also notice that my previously damaged areas (still quite a few inches left...) are more delicate the longer my hair gets. I hope once my trimming meets up with my virgin hair, the raggedy-end problem won't be as bad.
I've found that a true cinnamon bun is impossible for me to hold with just sticks anymore since the middle coils are apt to fall out. So I use a ficcare or do a cinnabun variation such as a cinnabut, inside-out, or gibralter if I want that look. I also agree that bunned braids are great at this length.
I'm also at "Can I call this hip length?" stage, but I hope to be TB by the end of the year, at least. I'm crossing my fingers for a good burst in summer. :pray:
I am just starting this journey. I officially called my length "waist" recently, and tailbone is my current "final" goal, so... I have a while to go yet. :) Especially since I plan a cut/trim sometime in the next couple of months.
My routine hasn't changed much in the last year or so, although I regularly fluctuate between CO and normal (but diluted) shampoo & conditioner washes. I've been trying a cone free routine for the last 2 years or so, but recently decided to give some silicones a go again - leave-in sprays, mainly. I missed the slip they gave me. Having said that, I probably won't use them much over winter since I have more slip than normal in winter anyway.
I wash my hair about twice, sometimes three times, a week. I am a big fan of damp- and semi-damp- bunning. I sometimes blowdry the front section on cool, if I want it to look "nicer" (damn cowlick/s :mad:). Jojoba oil and cassia are my friends. :)
you guys, i am pretty scared that i am going to cut my hair up....So i may leave this group if i do.
let see how things unfold ( 2 week ule ofcourse) ;)