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Cocoa_Crema
December 15th, 2011, 12:33 PM
is a challenge!


Here are my reasons why:

1. It's hard to go too long with out washing and detangling for me. After a couple of days my hair tangles, clumps, frizzes, and just doesn't look as good.

I wish I could just brush it, but it rips and damages my hair. The only time I can unsnarl it is in the shower with a wide toothed comb and copious amounts of conditioner. I know that if it was straight I could get away without washing longer.

2. Curly hair is drier, or at least mine is. I feel that my takes extra moisture and is prone to break more. So it's going to take longer to reach my ideal length.

3. My hair is a lot longer than it looks. When it curls it is at bra srap length. When straight it almost reaches mid back.



I'm a 3a 3b. Any other curly long hairs like me? Here is picture from last year. My curls are a lot less curlier than they are now. Henna and indigo have loosened my curl pattern.

Tehehehe on the jaguar face! :) http://i.imgur.com/MHnF9.jpg

vanity_acefake
December 15th, 2011, 12:49 PM
Oh your hair is so beautiful though.
I'm a total streighty. So I do love curls so much.

moon2dove
December 15th, 2011, 12:53 PM
Mine is a little less curlier than yours. When I stretch mine it's below BSL when it curls it's about 2" shorter - or a little shorter, depending on how tight my ringlets are. :( baahh!)

PS..Love the Jaguar face :)

Kina
December 15th, 2011, 12:56 PM
While I agree that you can't go without detangling for more than a couple of days, I disagree with the washing.

I CO daily, although I'm not as curly as you, it works fine for mine, reduces split ends, etc.

You have lovely hair.

LovingLife
December 15th, 2011, 01:23 PM
Haha!
I actually find curly hair a lot easier than I would expect straight hair to be but that's just my milk and cheese :)
For one curly hair at a certain length and thickness has a way to look extremely long :)
If you botch a trim whilist its straight you can guarantee it won't be THAT bad :)
You don't have you struggle with hemlines.
And bengin neglect is so easy. Buns and coconut oil are my friend :)
And I do believe the OP may be my hair twin :)
So hang in there!

door72067
December 15th, 2011, 01:41 PM
I'm not as curly, but I understand what you are saying about stretching washes and having it not look great after a day or two. I find that CO in between washes helps greatly. If I want to stretch an extra day, I will braid or bun on the 3rd day, but otherwise, it is wash day, co day, wash day, etc (unless I am not going anywhere special, then I just skip and bun)

Fructis Sleek & Shine is a nice product, imho...it keeps the frizzies at bay and I use it on both wet and dry hair with success

PinkyCat
December 15th, 2011, 01:45 PM
Yup. Me.

Have you considered the CG method? Check out natuallycurly.com - there is great info on this there. I have been CG for almost two years and it has been the absolute best thing that has ever happened to my hair.

Cocoa_Crema
December 15th, 2011, 01:47 PM
Thanks all! I know I'm not alone now. :) The max I can usually go without washing is 3 days, and on that third day it's in a bun.

Also, my hair is a lot less curlier because I went through a monthly hennaing phase. I haven't hennaed in 3 or so months hoping to see if my curls will come back.

Does indigo loosen curl pattern as well?

lapushka
December 15th, 2011, 01:49 PM
Two sites that might give you a different perspective or some ideas:
http://www.wikihow.com/Follow-the-Curly-Girl-Method-for-Curly-Hair
http://www.tightlycurly.com

dulce
December 15th, 2011, 01:54 PM
I have curly waist length hair in the 2's.Moisture shampoos and conditioners[Pantene line] help prevent tangles due to the slip provided by silicones in Pantene.I also use a clear shine hair serum over my canopy after it is dry.I threw away my boar bristle brush,brushing causes frizz due to my curls, and only use a wide tooth comb to detangle after a shampoo ,other than that I don't comb as that causes frizz..If I get a tangle I oil it well then use my fingers only to detangle.I shampoo daily and condition ends well,and then let it air dry till almost dry then blow dry gently with a diffuser on my blowdryer to loosen my tight ringlets.Once I found what works for my hair ,the curls are no longer a problem.Check out The curly girl handbook sold in local stores.

Tigermama
December 15th, 2011, 01:58 PM
Cool Post! I can completely relate. Every three inches looks like an inch on me. This is going to be worth it though. I also battle the dryness, tangles, and tribulations. If I don't detangle with conditioner daily, the bottom half of my hair breaks like crazy. Also, if my hair bends at the bottom I get an instant white dot, and goodbye hair. Wearing a braid even causes me damage, my hair is so fragile! Plus, cones make it worse long term for me. I wish I could use them, because it gives such a nice appearance. Two days later, I whole world of splits and dots. My hair is past waist but looks only BSL, and it is thin at the bottom.

Here are a few things I have learned that have helped me:

1) Castor oil overnight soaks for the ends, makes em so silky! (Can be a bit sticky sometimes though)
2)Instead of CO daily, I now moisten my length a handful of water, add Garnier Fructis Triple Moisture ( generous Quarter sized amt.) Then I comb with a wide toothed comb VERY gently, leaving in the conditioner. I olive oil lightly over that and let it dry. Then I apply a light coating of Fox's Shea made with olive oil. The effect is decent looking curls or detangled for an updo. In this way, I can stretch washes and let my scalp stay dry to reduce shedding. Now I just use shampoo CWC monthly and CO 2x per week. (one time is a deep conditioning)

Things I want to try:
1/8 inch monthly trim by the lunar phase. Maybe I can catch up with the hair I know is going to break off anyways! I am trying so hard to keep ends in my hair, after a life time of letting it go wild. I have never before made it to BSL, so something must be working here.

Tricking myself into not thinking about it. For me it is a long road ahead so I may as well settle in and enjoy the ride, lest I go crazy.

I know that very long curly hair is rare, but definitely possible!

dulce
December 15th, 2011, 02:02 PM
I found washing daily with a good moisture shampoo[I use Pantene curly to moisturized shampoo with added conditioner] then use the Pantene curly to moisturized conditioner only after rinsing out my shampoo.Then add clear hair shine serum over the canopy once it is dry.That helps keep it from getting dry.

dulce
December 15th, 2011, 02:11 PM
I also mop my hair with a very plush soft bathrobe after washing,no towels,so as not to disturb the cuticle and cause frizz,then let airdry.

dulce
December 15th, 2011, 02:16 PM
If you don't have the time in am ,do this at night and then sleep in a satin sleeping cap[sold on ebay ,not expensive] with your freshly washed dry hair.The cap helps stop frizz and tangles when you sleep.

3azza
December 15th, 2011, 02:18 PM
Mine is past tailbone (i need to update my profile), it took ages, and i need more time because the last 10 cm are thinner, unlike the thick hemline in the photo. I have found out that washing every other day is the best thing i can do to protect my hair because this is when i get to detangle it and moisturize it. Now i'm CO washing and avoiding all the SLS and cones, but before i used SLS coney shampoo/conditioner and my hair was in perfect shape. I use henna for the color, i guess it does loosen the curl, but only temporarily when the mud is not completely out of my hair. i also use oil, now only in the swimming season because of the sun and salt. My point is: conditioner and leave in are the two things that helped me grow my hair with minimum damage. Good luck to all...

Curly Hermione
December 15th, 2011, 02:45 PM
I can completely relate, you basically described my exact routine!

dili
December 15th, 2011, 03:38 PM
my hair was once very curly tailbone, with lot of damage from bleaching and dyeing...but it was ``there``, and not thaaaat bad...it takes time to grow, since the grow is ``hidden``, but with lot of moisturize is totally possible!

girlcat36
December 15th, 2011, 03:49 PM
Cocoa Crema, your hair is gorgeous!!!
Yes, long curly hair is very difficult. I have to wash every 2 or 3 days, and I find castor oil very beneficial. My hair is babyfine so I can't tolerate all the product that most curlies use to get such beautiful curls. I just do the best I can.

LovingLife
December 15th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Mine is past tailbone (i need to update my profile), it took ages, and i need more time because the last 10 cm are thinner, unlike the thick hemline in the photo. I have found out that washing every other day is the best thing i can do to protect my hair because this is when i get to detangle it and moisturize it. Now i'm CO washing and avoiding all the SLS and cones, but before i used SLS coney shampoo/conditioner and my hair was in perfect shape. I use henna for the color, i guess it does loosen the curl, but only temporarily when the mud is not completely out of my hair. i also use oil, now only in the swimming season because of the sun and salt. My point is: conditioner and leave in are the two things that helped me grow my hair with minimum damage. Good luck to all...

How long did it take you? :)

Cocoa_Crema
December 15th, 2011, 06:33 PM
Thank you all again for the links and advice. :blossom:


So what do you all think about lighter silicones in conditioners?


I've started to stay away from SLS's however I still like my cones in condish. I use a non cone condish like VO5 or Suave and then mix it about equal parts with Aussie Miracle or Tresseme moisturzing condish.

Also, I think I'm due for clarifying shampoo. The oils (coconut and EVOO) seem to being weighing it down.

For styling products I've been using Suave Curls mousse or LA Looks Sports Gel.... To be honest I'm not to enthused with them. I just hate to buy more unnecessary products to join the cemetery underneath my sink of products.


What do you curlies like to hold your curls? :)

Cocoa_Crema
December 15th, 2011, 06:33 PM
Oh, and all of your hair is so beautiful! My goodness!

dulce
December 15th, 2011, 06:42 PM
To loosen my curls after it is dry, I'll sometimes put it up in a coiled twisted lazywrap bun for maybe 10 minutes,it loosens the curl and helps tame frizz.

girlcat36
December 15th, 2011, 06:43 PM
Sulfates make my hair fall out, so I can't use them; and cones make my hair break off after about APL. So no cones, ever. Believe it or not I have been trying to grow out my curls since 1991! It kept breaking off; it wasn't until 2006 that I found out about cones. Once I gave them up I started to gain length, except then I got cancer and went bald on half of my head :( So I had to start from scratch in late 2007. It took me three years to get to BSL curly from bald.

My Holy Grail product is Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose conditioner. When, and if, I use a gel it is Aubrey Organics B5 gel. My hair is too fine for most curl styling creams.

It is good to know your hair's porosity level when you are a curly. I always thought I had high porosity and used the according products. I could never figure out my hair--nothing semed to work. I have since discovered that my hair is actually low porosity! So I changed up my routine to one geared towards low porosity and my hair is much happier.

Copasetic
December 15th, 2011, 06:58 PM
Growing out curly hair can be tough, but in my opinion, there is nothing prettier than waist length curls.

Happy growing! You can tough it out. It will be worth it in the end.

cubiczoeconia
December 15th, 2011, 08:22 PM
For styling products I've been using Suave Curls mousse or LA Looks Sports Gel.... To be honest I'm not to enthused with them. I just hate to buy more unnecessary products to join the cemetery underneath my sink of products.


What do you curlies like to hold your curls? :)


I'm not a curly girl, but I am a hairdresser. Interestingly enough, we actually do CO washes on all of our curly clients, and advise them to do the same.

As far as your products go, stay away from anything with alcohol (which I can guarantee is right there in the beginning of the ingredients on both of hose products.) You're right when you say that your curls are dryer than straight hair, and alcohol, by nature, is drying. Look for curly definers or cremes that are moisturizing. For some people, even a light leave in conditioner can define curls.

I personally work at a Paul Mitchell salon and really love Round Trip as a definer, and the Sculpting Foam (regular, NOT extra-body) as a product combination that keeps my curly girls looking great and feeling soft as silk. However, I'm sure there are comparable products elsewhere. Just stay away from that alcohol! (Starting to sound like a rehab coach over here...)

eezepeeze
December 15th, 2011, 09:17 PM
As far as your products go, stay away from anything with alcohol

Absolutely! Alcohol is soooo drying and it is usually one of the first ingredients listed in more economical products.

It's so interesting to see how different everyone's hair is, even amongst us curlies.
For me, I tried the curlygirl method and did learn some valuable information there, but in the end I gave it up because my hair desperately needs cones. It's just wild and unmanageable without them. I do still plop from time to time.

Currently, this is my routine: EVOO before washing, even if it's just for a few minutes. Frizz-Ease Smooth Start Shampoo and Conditioner (I wash about every 3-4 days); then Nexus split end repair cream on the ends, followed by Frizz Ease super control antifrizz serum (purple bottle), and then either Herbal Essences curly gel or Frizz Ease spray gel curl enhancing spray.

I also just picked up Chi heat protectant and Got2B heat protecant as I straighten my bangs and occasionally straighten the length (gasp!). And, I just picked up an Argan oil product that I've used on my dry hair several times to revive it...jury's still out that one. It's called Argan Magic Intensive hiar oil. It DOES have cones in it, so it's not a straight oil.

As you can see, I pretty much bathe my hair in cones and oil. This is the only way I've been able to get my hair to cooperate and it seems to be okay because I've has great results since I've been here.

I have also discovered that my ends react TERRIBLY to S&D. Trims are much better and help my ends stay healthy. I've learned some great info here about general hair care and protective updos. But, I will never ever give up my cones again!

Quixii
December 15th, 2011, 10:08 PM
I feel like having long curly hair is hard because it's so variable. The shower before last, my hair dried almost 3a/3b, and looked really great. It even lasted a couple days before I put it in a braid. Most recent shower, my hair is more like 2b/3a and just doesn't look that happy. I did exactly the same thing both times. :shrug:
But sometimes the built-in variety is nice. :)

LovingLife
December 16th, 2011, 02:02 AM
Growing out curly hair can be tough, but in my opinion, there is nothing prettier than waist length curls.

Happy growing! You can tough it out. It will be worth it in the end.

I think butt length and beyond curls are BEAUTIFUL! :)

Nera
December 16th, 2011, 05:15 AM
I deal with the EXACT same issues as you. It is definitely a challenge and it get's tougher and tougher in my opinion. Even updo's or braids make it tangle.

But let's not forget about all the nice things about long curly hair. Curls are playful. Thick hair often makes a great impression on people, in other words, make you stand out. Plus, it takes a long time to grow curls, but once you've gotten there, you REALLY feel like you've accomplished something, because it was such a challenge.

I realize I might not accually have anything useful to say, besides: good luck!

3azza
December 16th, 2011, 12:34 PM
How long did it take you? :)

in 2009 when i joined, it was waist length, so by 2012, it would be 3 years.

Egana
December 16th, 2011, 05:24 PM
I so agree - breakage is so frustrating - and I avoid S&D's! I don't measure, but try to enjoy my hair as it slowly spirals down my back.

I revitalize my curls in between weekly CWC's by pulling my hair over one shoulder and finger combing water from the sink into my hair. Then I work up a lather with my conditioner, and then finger comb it into my wet hair. That helps the curls stay defined, but leaves it soft (not crunchy like gel or mousse does.)

I wear it down on day 1, 1/2 up on day 2, up on day 3, 1/2 up on day 4 (revitalized per the above description) up on day 5, 1/2 up on day 6 (again, revitalized), 1/2 up on day 7, then deep condition with EVOO overnight, and CWC in the morning, and start it all over again. I participate in a Tae Kwon Do class on days 3, 5, and 7, so wearing it up allows me to go from work to class to work again without fussing with my hair, as well as stretch out my washes...


Again, I try to keep it healthy and happy (no combing or brushing while dry, only gentle finger combing, and enjoying it while down, leaving it alone when up, and ignoring it whenever possible. *grin*


Good luck! Rock those beautiful curls!

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=9224&pictureid=120367

Cocoa_Crema
December 16th, 2011, 11:10 PM
I so agree - breakage is so frustrating - and I avoid S&D's! I don't measure, but try to enjoy my hair as it slowly spirals down my back.

I revitalize my curls in between weekly CWC's by pulling my hair over one shoulder and finger combing water from the sink into my hair. Then I work up a lather with my conditioner, and then finger comb it into my wet hair. That helps the curls stay defined, but leaves it soft (not crunchy like gel or mousse does.)

I wear it down on day 1, 1/2 up on day 2, up on day 3, 1/2 up on day 4 (revitalized per the above description) up on day 5, 1/2 up on day 6 (again, revitalized), 1/2 up on day 7, then deep condition with EVOO overnight, and CWC in the morning, and start it all over again. I participate in a Tae Kwon Do class on days 3, 5, and 7, so wearing it up allows me to go from work to class to work again without fussing with my hair, as well as stretch out my washes...


Again, I try to keep it healthy and happy (no combing or brushing while dry, only gentle finger combing, and enjoying it while down, leaving it alone when up, and ignoring it whenever possible. *grin*


Good luck! Rock those beautiful curls!

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/picture.php?albumid=9224&pictureid=120367


Very pretty hair!

Ayasha1
December 17th, 2011, 12:37 AM
I also co wash daily and have wavy curly hair(that is very thick)
But i comb my hair at night with my wide tooth comb (long prosses)then i little with the boar brissstle brush. Then i wet my hair in the shower the next mourning and work the conditioner up the braids to scalp.(requires alot of ciditioner) but it doesnt tangle this way. Put in shower cap let sit will washing the i rinse my hair. Then i let it air dry. Then i do not brush or comb it at all till the evening when i do the whole prossess again.

sycamoreboutiqu
December 17th, 2011, 01:56 AM
Wow, I can't imagine CO washing daily.

I am sitting here slowly drying after my weekly CO wash and am going to have to go to bed damp (not that it is anything new). It's just that I don't really want to braid it wet as I would like to enjoy the soft curls.waves instead of braid waves. I guess I can do the banding method.

The wash actually got stretched this time by 2 extra days and it didn't like it - but it wasn't all that bad really. Incredibly, just started to get a bit oily an itchy today - the 8th or 9th day.

I can't imagine if I went back in time and told my younger self that not only would my hair be hip length in my late 50's but that I also wouldn't use shampoo, would put a variety of oils and aloe in it then wouldn't wash it for 7 or 8 days - and it would actually look BETTER than it ever did when I was younger.

That would be a hoot.

Cocoa_Crema
December 22nd, 2011, 01:22 AM
Wow, I can't imagine CO washing daily.

I am sitting here slowly drying after my weekly CO wash and am going to have to go to bed damp (not that it is anything new). It's just that I don't really want to braid it wet as I would like to enjoy the soft curls.waves instead of braid waves. I guess I can do the banding method.

The wash actually got stretched this time by 2 extra days and it didn't like it - but it wasn't all that bad really. Incredibly, just started to get a bit oily an itchy today - the 8th or 9th day.

I can't imagine if I went back in time and told my younger self that not only would my hair be hip length in my late 50's but that I also wouldn't use shampoo, would put a variety of oils and aloe in it then wouldn't wash it for 7 or 8 days - and it would actually look BETTER than it ever did when I was younger.

That would be a hoot.

Your hair beautiful and thick Angela. I'd be so proud if my hair looked like that in my fifties. Do you wear it down often? :)

Lissandria
December 22nd, 2011, 05:00 AM
Great to meet all you other Curly Girls :) Lovely hair everyone. Long curls are a challenge! But a challenge that most definitely worth it and very satisfying.

I am also a very fine curly so alot of products aimed for curly hair are for hair much coarser and thicker than mine so I avoid them at all costs.

The things that have most helped are:
-Eliminating cones has helped my curls come out more
-I use coconut oil as a wet setting agent scrunching my hair it helps my curls stay in well at least a day or two post wash.
-Dilute CWC and CO washing methods
-SMTs weekly
-Protein in the form of henna and amla surprisingly- my fine hair lacked protein making my curls "droopy". A bit of protein now and then perks them right up.

Downsides to being a curly are sometimes you just want Straight or wavy hair (grass is always greener!). Also curls are unpredictable- sometimes my hair is extremely springy and definied with 3a curls with some 3b type curls, and other times my hair is more like a 2b/2c/3a curly mix (siggy pic).
Having to rewet, condition, ACV and oil my ends/midlengths on a non-wash day is a neccessity sometimes for my hair to look good which can be annoying.

Having said all this, I love being the girl with curls though. Wouldn't have it any other way. ;)

Colourful
December 22nd, 2011, 05:44 AM
Beautiful locks & hair!

Aidin
November 18th, 2016, 04:03 PM
Hi everyone, I am new in LHC and my goal is to attain Long Curly Hair :D

What is your go to style after washing hair and during the week?

raemarthe
November 19th, 2016, 10:55 AM
Welcome! My curly hair is only midback, but usually I cowash my hair once a week, and about 3-4 times a week I conditioner my hair while I'm in the shower. I leave my hair down while its drying, and once it is I either wear it in braids, a messy bun, or a bun held up by a hair stick. Usually I only wear my hair down once or twice in a week.

Kat-Rinnč Naido
November 19th, 2016, 12:17 PM
Cocoa_Crema you have gorgeous hair.

Wow I am so pleased to see there are so many 3a & 3b +c long hair members here. Some of whom have made it to tbl.

Thank you for your encouraging words on your hair care. It can get discouraging knowing that being curly I can see the growth on my tape measure but have shrinkage which does reflect the length.

Aidin
November 19th, 2016, 09:36 PM
Welcome! My curly hair is only midback, but usually I cowash my hair once a week, and about 3-4 times a week I conditioner my hair while I'm in the shower. I leave my hair down while its drying, and once it is I either wear it in braids, a messy bun, or a bun held up by a hair stick. Usually I only wear my hair down once or twice in a week.

Thanks Raemarthe!

Do you braid or bun with your hair curly or do you brush it?

Simsy
November 20th, 2016, 05:50 AM
Hi everyone, I am new in LHC and my goal is to attain Long Curly Hair :D

What is your go to style after washing hair and during the week?

My curls are down nearly at TBL. I wash once a week, air dry which will take most of day, and oil it every time I detangle. I wear buns or loose braids on the weekend. I also occasionally leave it loose for special occasions.

For work, I do 4 basic braids, wrap them around my head and pin into place. This style will stay in for 2-4 days before I pull the braids down, brush and rebraid each one; then put the whole lot back up.

Totty
November 20th, 2016, 11:35 AM
Another curly 3a. Classic when stretched hip + when dry. 2 days in a week loose hair, the rest of the week bunned up or a braid. 1-2 shampoo. All days Only conditioner. I'm not anti silicones... If my hair likes it, I'll Use it

raemarthe
November 20th, 2016, 05:53 PM
Thanks Raemarthe!

Do you braid or bun with your hair curly or do you brush it?

I try to keep my curls intact as much as possible, so no brushes for me. Although occasionally I finger comb/detangle on dry hair. Most of the time I do it in the shower.

EbonyCurls
November 20th, 2016, 08:05 PM
I have 3B hair that is waist curly, tailbone stretched. I too have to wash every three or four days or my hair gets unbelievably dry. And it seems nothing adds moisture back in better than cleaning it and reapplying conditioner. I do keep it somewhat moist between washings by brushing my hair out gently, with coconut oil, braiding it then spritzing it with warm water and then unbraiding and putting up in an updo or leave braided if going to bed.

I air dry my hair after a wash. I wear it down and apply VO5 moisture milk conditioner as both a leave in and gel, and scrunch to encourage clumping. The curls stay nice for the day after wash but by the third day it starts to get frizzy and dry so I wear updos for the next day or two.

Katia_k
November 20th, 2016, 09:03 PM
I have 2C/3A hair, and I pretty much live in buns or braids, except on wash days. I like to leave it down and let it air dry, since I like how it comes out a lot better if I don't trap it immediately after washing. Sometimes I use duckbill clips to encourage the curls a bit, but that's about all I like to do. Otherwise, it's buns with spin pins or sticks, or braids.

I wash it about twice a week, use a deep conditioner once a week, do an ACV rinse, and more often than not I'll do an overnight oil before my showers. I'm BSL unstretched, and...mid-back stretched? I've been stalled for ages and it's a little frustrating, so I'm not sure where I'm sitting now.

Best of luck--curls can make for some great styles, and LHC is a fun place.

Aidin
November 20th, 2016, 10:26 PM
Thanks so much everyone who replied!

I've always been torn between brushing my hair while wet and dry it stretched to avoid knots, or if I should let it curl and be low-manipulation!
I guess I've been doing it right as I usually let it dry curly and then bun.


Any tips to alleviate major shrinkage (curly - APL; stretched - HL+)?

EbonyCurls
November 21st, 2016, 12:58 AM
I don't have a problem with shrinkage, but to keep my curls as smooth and contained as possible I apply a lot of leave in to soaking water from the ears down. The weight of the water and product keeps my curls taut and smooth until dry, which cuts down on frizz. The heavier I make it, the longer, smoother, and chunkier my curls.

Kat-Rinnč Naido
November 21st, 2016, 01:14 AM
I don't have a problem with shrinkage, but to keep my curls as smooth and contained as possible I apply a lot of leave in to soaking water from the ears down. The weight of the water and product keeps my curls taut and smooth until dry, which cuts down on frizz. The heavier I make it, the longer, smoother, and chunkier my curls.

Thank you for the tip EbonyCurls I shall try that. As I get a lot of shrinkage, my hair is at waist stretched but bsl or mbl depending on the weather.

Kat-Rinnč Naido
November 21st, 2016, 01:27 AM
I have 3B hair that is waist curly, tailbone stretched. I too have to wash every three or four days or my hair gets unbelievably dry. And it seems nothing adds moisture back in better than cleaning it and reapplying conditioner. I do keep it somewhat moist between washings by brushing my hair out gently, with coconut oil, braiding it then spritzing it with warm water and then unbraiding and putting up in an updo or leave braided if going to bed.

I air dry my hair after a wash. I wear it down and apply VO5 moisture milk conditioner as both a leave in and gel, and scrunch to encourage clumping. The curls stay nice for the day after wash but by the third day it starts to get frizzy and dry so I wear updos for the next day or two.

I also start to loose my curls by the third day.

For two weeks now I have been able to extend my washes to weekly (I am not sure if it is due to the warmer weather. We are going into summer now.) I comb out my curls by the 3rd day and apply coconut oil in sections focusing on my ends to mid section. Then just wiping my hands on my canopy. This seems to keep my hair hydrated longer.

EbonyCurls
November 22nd, 2016, 01:46 AM
^ isn't coconut oil just awesome for curly hair? I resisted oiling for many years because I never had any luck with it, but when I discovered both coconut oil and brushing it was the perfect combo for me. I really want to try to babassu oil which comes from the coconut kernel as I heard it penetrates even better.

Aidin
November 22nd, 2016, 09:25 AM
I actually have no luck with coconut oil, it makes my hair hard/stiff...
The best oils for me are almond and argan oils... do you know if they are penetrating oils?

You said you brush your curls EbonyCurls? How do you go about it? and why?

Kat-Rinnč Naido
November 22nd, 2016, 11:04 AM
I actually have no luck with coconut oil, it makes my hair hard/stiff...
The best oils for me are almond and argan oils... do you know if they are penetrating oils?

You said you brush your curls EbonyCurls? How do you go about it? and why?

How many days does your curls stay after wash day Aidin

Aidin
November 22nd, 2016, 12:17 PM
How many days does your curls stay after wash day Aidin

I used to keep them for the whole week, but in the last days they would be more on the wavy and frizzy side... So now I wash twice a week to always have frizz free curls and to help keep tangles to a minimum... So they stay for 3 or 4 days.

Kat-Rinnč Naido
November 22nd, 2016, 12:33 PM
After the 2nd day I normally comb mine out. As not combing my hair creates scalp stress and tension. As well as combing helps to keep it free of tangles.

Aidin
November 22nd, 2016, 12:41 PM
After the 2nd day I normally comb mine out. As not combing my hair creates scalp stress and tension as well as helps to keep it free of tangles.

I thought that combing out curls was a big no - no!

EbonyCurls
November 22nd, 2016, 03:39 PM
I actually have no luck with coconut oil, it makes my hair hard/stiff...
The best oils for me are almond and argan oils... do you know if they are penetrating oils?

You said you brush your curls EbonyCurls? How do you go about it? and why?

I brush it because it's the only way I can evenly distribute oils, and also it's the quickest and most gentle way for me to detangle my hair before updos and washes. I divide my hair into four sections, and take one section at a time pulling it apart with my fingers to get any major tangles. Then I put a little bit of coconut oil in the section and comb through with fingers. I take a small piece of hair the width of the brushhead, and about one inch thick and slowly brush my way through the section. I braid each section as I go as I find it helps keep the hair smooth as I brush. If I'm relaxing and taking my time it takes about 20 minutes. But usually I get it done in 10 to 15.

Aidin
November 22nd, 2016, 04:51 PM
Thanks @Kat-Rinnč Naido and @EbonyCurls!

I usually let my hair dry curly and then bun it while curly, but I have very fine, fragile hair that I believe wouldn't withstand so much brushing.


PS. How do you tag people, as you did with my name @Kat-Rinnč Naido ?

Salwety
November 23rd, 2016, 04:48 AM
Hi dear curlies. After a year of getting rid of the chemically straightened damaged hair, here I am with full head of curly hair :D
My issue is almost the same. My hair is just below shoulder length curly while below APL straight.
I found out after 30 years of my life, that combing or brushing my hair dry causes breakage and split ends.
My hair likes olive oil and castor oil. But coconut oil unfortunately causes it to frizz and get stiff.
I wish by next year that I will have BSL curly hair.
What will I do to achieve it ... I have no idea :)
I just reached the point of accepting and loving my hair in its natural state.

Happy growing everone.

Aidin
November 23rd, 2016, 09:42 AM
Hi Salwety,
I am happy to hear from another curly that went natural :D

My tips are to keep you hair moisturised (find a good leave-in) and in protective styles to avoid damage thus retaining length.
Good luck and let us know about your progress!

Erizu
November 23rd, 2016, 10:56 AM
^ isn't coconut oil just awesome for curly hair? I resisted oiling for many years because I never had any luck with it, but when I discovered both coconut oil and brushing it was the perfect combo for me. I really want to try to babassu oil which comes from the coconut kernel as I heard it penetrates even better.

When I tried coconut oil it was just awful, but then again I'm a total oiling noob and probably put on far too much. :o

Kat-Rinnč Naido
November 23rd, 2016, 10:19 PM
Thanks @Kat-Rinnč Naido and @EbonyCurls!

I usually let my hair dry curly and then bun it while curly, but I have very fine, fragile hair that I believe wouldn't withstand so much brushing.


PS. How do you tag people, as you did with my name @Kat-Rinnč Naido ?

Hi Aidin most of the time I am replying from my phone.
Above the comment box where in you type there are icons. Click bold to type a person's name in bold next place your cursor out of the box to continue typing. If you do not do that. Everything might end up bold.

Salwety
November 23rd, 2016, 10:30 PM
Thanks Aidin :)

Kat-Rinnč Naido
November 23rd, 2016, 11:37 PM
I thought that combing out curls was a big no - no!

Combing and brushing curls are a big no. But finger combing for me does not do the job of keeping my hair tangle free and scalp stress free. My hair is happy as I am not creating any damage and I am gentle. I do not pull, tug or rip. If I have a bit of tangles when combing I loosen it with my fingers. I use a wide tooth wooden comb, which is wider than the plastic ones. I did file between each of the prongs before using it for the first time. Also I oil my ends before combing.

Hello Salwety

BeccaAngel
November 24th, 2016, 01:34 AM
I wish my hair was curly, I get a waviness to it the longer it gets but what I wouldn't give for actual curls.

Aidin
November 24th, 2016, 08:56 AM
Hi Aidin most of the time I am replying from my phone.
Above the comment box where in you type there are icons. Click bold to type a person's name in bold next place your cursor out of the box to continue typing. If you do not do that. Everything might end up bold.

Thanks Kat-Rinnč Naido! :)

Kat-Rinnč Naido
November 24th, 2016, 11:21 AM
Thanks Kat-Rinnč Naido! :)
Thank you new friend.

BeccaAngel you are just as fortunate with waves

sanguinebread
November 24th, 2016, 09:47 PM
I have TBL hair stretched, BSL to waist curly depending on how it dries.

Generally I wash once a week with conditioner and use a leave in. I don't otherwise detangle or use product most of the time. I'm currently using Sauve Naturals line conditioner, and I just used Kinky Curly Knot-Today for the first time today as a leave-in product; I was using Naturally Curly Curl Keeper before, which I liked okay but didn't love. I recommend Curly Girl product recommendations lists to anyone with curly hair trying to find products to try, especially this list (http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/home/10-drugstore-finds-that-follow-the-curly-girl-method/) for budget products.

I wash in the evening, plop for about an hour in a cotton T shirt, and then let it air dry over the next few hours and night while I sleep. (It takes 6-10 hours for my hair to air dry, so day time washes don't really work out if I plan on leaving the house.) After that I usually have one to three days where I can wear my hair down, depending on whether it gets messed up badly while I sleep or I need to style it in some way that breaks the curl pattern. For the rest of the week I braid it or wear it up, so the texture isn't visible. My wash night is Thursday so I can wear it down Friday and Saturday, and it's up during the week when I would need it out of the way anyway.

I used to wash every few days like a few people have mentioned doing, but as my hair got longer it got to be a major pain between the amount of time it took to wash and detangle and the amount of product every wash used up, so I dropped to once a week. I suspect most people hit that point eventually, although where it is will depend on you and your hair. If you're interested in length with very curly hair I think it's worth considering wearing it braided or up most of the time.

It's mostly time that gets you length, which can be encouraging or frustrating. Most of the complicated routine items are about day to day looks rather than length, so if it's something you care about and you enjoy experimenting it's worth doing, but if you find it frustrating you really don't need to unless you're having a specific problem with hair health. Protective styles and a wash method that doesn't damage your hair are plenty. Hair grows slowly, it may take 2-5 years to see the change you want regardless of routine.

Kat-Rinnč Naido
November 25th, 2016, 01:08 AM
Thank you for sharing sanguinebread