BittSweetCherry
June 19th, 2010, 07:12 AM
Hiya fellow longhairs,
I'm a CO washer and have been for 18 months or longer, and for the most part my routine is going well. My routine is currently sulfate-free and entirely cone-free with a bit of coconut oiling once or twice a week, and never needs shampooing.
Now, I love the full benefits of conditioner throughout the washing experience - I *cannot* stand the squeaky, tangle-prone cleanliness associated with shampooing. That said, I like what cones do; I think their image as cling wrap for hair is a complete oversimplification, and I don't believe they damage your hair, or in any of the other spiels generally listed for going cone-free. They offer slip and reduce friction, which means less damage from manual manipulation. What I hate about them is that they need a good, strong surfactant to get rid of build-up.
So I want the best of both worlds: the cones that don't need to be shampooed out.
I know there's a few lists around (such as <one of LHC's own hair care articles (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=13)>, <http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/curly-q-a/whats-the-scoop-on-silicones> and <http://healthycurls.awardspace.com/cones.html> - the last two are re-linked from The Beauty Brains) and the general list of cones safe for COers seems to come down to:
Cyclomethicone (highly volatile so mostly evaporates, and easily removable by gentler cationic surfactants, such as Cetrimonium Chloride and Distearyldimonium Chloride, which are found in many inexpensive conditioners)
Dimethicone Copolyol (a group of compounds, of which a full list of names can be found here (http://www.realself.com/ingredient/dimethicone-copolyol); water soluble)
Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein Hydroxypropyl Polysiloxane (water soluble)
Lauryl Methicone Copolyol (water soluble)
PEG-modified Dimethicone (water soluble; if you follow the link to the list of names for Dimethicone Copolyol, I suspect they're the same things)SO, my long-winded request is:
Can your name me a good CO-friendly conditioner that contains these - and only these - cones?
Can you name some leave-in conditioners (anti-frizz, curl control, shine serums, you name it) that contain these - and only these - cones?
Is there any particular product from lists 1 or 2 that you swear by?My desperate desire for this information was fuelled by my acquisition of The Body Shop's Brazil Nut Define & No Frizz (http://www.thebodyshop-usa.com/styling-products/prod6270003) leave-in (Cyclomethicone, Dimethicone Copolyol) which apart from smelling DIVINE it has reminded me of all the good things I'm missing out on with a cone-free routine. But at US$120/L (in Aussie stores, it's currently US$240/L!!) it's just not economically viable. Surely there's enough long-haired beauties that feel the same way, and amongst us there's a pool of product information waiting to be shared!
I'm a CO washer and have been for 18 months or longer, and for the most part my routine is going well. My routine is currently sulfate-free and entirely cone-free with a bit of coconut oiling once or twice a week, and never needs shampooing.
Now, I love the full benefits of conditioner throughout the washing experience - I *cannot* stand the squeaky, tangle-prone cleanliness associated with shampooing. That said, I like what cones do; I think their image as cling wrap for hair is a complete oversimplification, and I don't believe they damage your hair, or in any of the other spiels generally listed for going cone-free. They offer slip and reduce friction, which means less damage from manual manipulation. What I hate about them is that they need a good, strong surfactant to get rid of build-up.
So I want the best of both worlds: the cones that don't need to be shampooed out.
I know there's a few lists around (such as <one of LHC's own hair care articles (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/vbjournal.php?do=article&articleid=13)>, <http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/curly-q-a/whats-the-scoop-on-silicones> and <http://healthycurls.awardspace.com/cones.html> - the last two are re-linked from The Beauty Brains) and the general list of cones safe for COers seems to come down to:
Cyclomethicone (highly volatile so mostly evaporates, and easily removable by gentler cationic surfactants, such as Cetrimonium Chloride and Distearyldimonium Chloride, which are found in many inexpensive conditioners)
Dimethicone Copolyol (a group of compounds, of which a full list of names can be found here (http://www.realself.com/ingredient/dimethicone-copolyol); water soluble)
Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein Hydroxypropyl Polysiloxane (water soluble)
Lauryl Methicone Copolyol (water soluble)
PEG-modified Dimethicone (water soluble; if you follow the link to the list of names for Dimethicone Copolyol, I suspect they're the same things)SO, my long-winded request is:
Can your name me a good CO-friendly conditioner that contains these - and only these - cones?
Can you name some leave-in conditioners (anti-frizz, curl control, shine serums, you name it) that contain these - and only these - cones?
Is there any particular product from lists 1 or 2 that you swear by?My desperate desire for this information was fuelled by my acquisition of The Body Shop's Brazil Nut Define & No Frizz (http://www.thebodyshop-usa.com/styling-products/prod6270003) leave-in (Cyclomethicone, Dimethicone Copolyol) which apart from smelling DIVINE it has reminded me of all the good things I'm missing out on with a cone-free routine. But at US$120/L (in Aussie stores, it's currently US$240/L!!) it's just not economically viable. Surely there's enough long-haired beauties that feel the same way, and amongst us there's a pool of product information waiting to be shared!