Up until recently I had been using a Honey CO in my hair, but I have noticed that longterm my hair doesnt like it- only once a month or so.

I would like to try something different but Im not sure what and Im finding naviagting the new layout of the site difficult (especially as I only have an hour a day to come on at the moment!)

Is there anyone out there who is my hair twin who might be able to suggest something?

I know that I don't want to henna or honey anymore (well I might use honey occasionally but not regularly)

Thanks in advance
Sah

What is it exactly that your hair doesn't like about a honey CO? Is it overmoisturised, lanky, oily, or coarse and rough? Can you narrow down whether the problem is from CO of from using the honey? Maybe washing too often, or not often enough?

As to what else to try, what have you tried before? Personally, I like CWC or C-COW-C - my hair gets fully clean yet well conditioned.

It might be that the honey is sticking to your hair after washing. It's a good idea to rinse with ACV after and see if that's a problem. I've been meaning to test that out myself.

Up until recently I had been using a Honey CO in my hair, but I have noticed that longterm my hair doesnt like it- only once a month or so.

I would like to try something different but Im not sure what and Im finding naviagting the new layout of the site difficult (especially as I only have an hour a day to come on at the moment!)

Is there anyone out there who is my hair twin who might be able to suggest something?

I know that I don't want to henna or honey anymore (well I might use honey occasionally but not regularly)

Thanks in advance
Sah

I have 2C hair, but its fine to medium.
My hair doesn't like conditioner as it builds up on my hair making it lank and dull looking.
I use a shampoo or herbs. Then for rinsing I'll use an herbal rinse with some aloe vera, honey or glycerin added to it. When I wash with shampoo I don't get it on the length just the scalp.
Then if I pre-oil with coconut oil (for conditioning) then I will shampoo the lenght and scalp.

This is working well for me.:cheese:

Start with claifying scalp and length with shampoo. Then look at your hair plain and clean to see what it needs. (Sometimes the scalp and length have different needs). If moisture then do overnight coconut (or other oil) treatments. Or an SMT.

I'm not an expert, but thats what I would do. If your hair is 2C that means its more porous than straight hair. And porous hair really tends to absorb what you put on it. That is why using hella conditioner can be quite damaging. I think the natural conditioners are better than commercial drug store ones that have silicones.

Well, I have found that honey used occasionally is fine for my hair, but when used regularly it lightens the hair too much- It appears almost as though it is thinning the hair shaft- and causing splits. I narrowed it down to honey and its stopped now. Just getting rid of the splits at the moment (NIGHTMARE!!!). I do still use honey but I think it is best for me to just do so once a month or so

I tend to wash my hair a max of once a week sometimes once a fortnight. Although at the moment I am low on supplies and rather broke so Im leaving it longer between washes. OH and I should have mentioned that everyother wash I leave Coconut oil on overnight before hand.

Thanks for the ideas :)

Well, I'm pretty close to being your hairtwin. Shampoo bars were wonderful for me, followed by a citric acid rinse, and coconut oil deep treats once a week. I used Chagrin Valley's Neem & Tea Tree, but I finally had to switch back to something medicated for my psoriasis. If you have a normal scalp, you could give that a try.

I will have to look into shampoo bars then- I have seen them mentioned on here but never even opened the threads about them- might be best if I do so then! I am allergic to citrus when I eat it though so that may not work for me- but I can try possibly. If it really works well for me, I can ignore the allergy, its only mild and not life threatening.

Saranne, I was going to suggest shampoo bars myself, so I am going to second that suggestion. Chagrin Valley (http://www.chagrinvalleysoapandcraft.com) has shampoos that are citrus-free. They seem pricey at first, but their bars are big and last a long time. I use a shampoo bar and a vinegar rinse, and I oil rather liberately in between washes. My hair has never been better.

And please don´t get discouraged when you open the shampoo bar thread (http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=74). It is humongous, but there is lots and lost of great information in there.

I'm pretty close to your hair type. CWC with diluted shampoo to scalp area twice per week (with full hair wash once per month or less) works great for me. I use olive oil currently, but I love coconut oil. Lately I've been doing a generous treatment the day before planned wash. I used to apply it to damp hair immediately after a wash but don't like how that attracts dust/fabric fibers to my hair so am trying alternative ideas. I do a deep treatment with either SMT or store product (lately Nature's Gate Pack for aging hair) every other week or less.

[quote=Calista;78045]They seem pricey at first, but their bars are big and last a long time. [quote]

Totally agree there. I was using a sample size bar (I think it cost $1.75 or so) daily, and it lasted almost a month.

Hmmm Ill have to go over to the shampoo bar thread I think!!

I cant afford to order from the US at the moment though so I hope its poss to get them in UK. Ill have to go look tomorrow me thinks! (Just cos I dont have time today)

Well, I don't have the same kind of hair as you, and I've never tried poo bars, but I can put in a good word for Aubrey Organics products-I plugged "London" onto their store finder and got two results, which doesn't seem like much but at least it proves they ARE in the UK.

Totally off the subject, I've just been amused to notice that the dancing cheese smily thingy is dancing exactly in time to George Clinton's "Do Fries Come With That Shake", currently playing on my computer! :cheese:

I have about the same hairtype you have.

I wash with organic cone and sulphate free shampoo, diluted. I use conditioner or an organic laundry softener (which has only the same ingredients as conditioner.. eterquat and a couple of other things.. nothing more than regular conditioner, something less to tell the truth. It's cheap, smells good - I add EO to my liking- and makes my hair completely soft and tangle free). I put shea butter on my ends (when damp) to prevent splits. I never brush (except BBB after deep oiling) and only comb when damp/wet. I am trying to wear my hair up more to prevent damage. I do a S&D once in a while and have decided to trim once a year because I like a U shaped hemline, but no more than that.
I deep oil once in a while... (my hair is deep oiled right now).

Tried Lush shampoo bars, like them when I travel but my hair gets dirty sooner.

Hope this helps