Since lurking around LHC i think my "long hair" perception changed. It used to be that BSL was pretty long to me but now I consider more around the waist or hip area long hair. I know a lot of non-LHCers that consider APL long though, and it's kind of weird to me. But maybe thats because I'm used to the idea of really long hair?

So tell me ladies & gents, what do you consider long hair? I don't mean state-of-mind (like someone who treats their hair very nice and carefully), but physical appearance. I know everyone has a different opinion on this.

(I'm one of those people that think a certain length looks long on someone else, but looks and feels short on me. I think it's my lack of height :shrug:)

I think BSL and longer are long. I feel like my hair is really short though; eventhough it's almost BSL length.

i think hip+ is long
but then i did think waist was long until like now, im a few inches away from it

For me, BSL is long-ish, and long starts at waist.

But that's probably because mine is at BSL at the moment - it'll probably shift as I grow along :)

I consider my hair long in real life because compared to other people's hair, it is longer. My hair has been much shorter than what I have now for much of my life. Also, whenever I make a meez or simpsonize myself, the category of hair that matches my hair is labeled "long." My hair is shoulderblade length. I will consider long by LHC standards when it reaches my waist or gets to BSL or a little longer. It is a shifting goalpost.

IMHO I say for women long is waist and really long is hip and beyond. But for guys, APL is long and waist and beyond is really long :) I hold them to different standards. :p LOL

I've always thought of APL as long, but my hair didn't feel long to me until it passed my waist.

BSL and longer...

Having been a short hair person for a while I consider my hair long if I can manage to get it into a ponytail without and clips :D

Mid back + is long on other people; but I still don't think my hair is all that long. It's definitely not short anymore, but for some reason I'll look at waist and for some reason it seems longer than mine; not to mention when I look at someone with classic +, it'll take a while before my hair gets there.

In real life BSL is long but on the LHC my perception changes somewhat. LOL. It depends on where I am. When I look at photos of my own hair at waist or even TB I think it's short compared to now but of course, that's only because I'm comparing.

I didn't start to consider my own hair as long until I reached midback. BSL or shorter just doesn't seem long to me.

LHC has reeeeeally changed my outlook:
Before waist+ was very long.. Now:

pixie - shoulders: short
shoulders -waist: medium long
waist - classic: long-ish long
classic - knees: long
Knees - beyond: superlong!

In my opinion, long hair begins when it reaches juuuuust past the shoulders.

For me, waist and beyond is long hair.

I've normally said BSL or mid-back (for guys who don't wear bras!) but my old hairdresser used to say once it was past shoulders, it was long.

I guess I would go with APL and longer, if I had to make a serious decision!

In my opinion:
APL to waist: semi-long
Waist to tailbone: long
Tailbone to midthigh/knee: very long
Knee+ : extremely long
Which means my hair is *only* long at the moment... In other words, not long enough :p

IMHO hair is long if it looks long from the front when you put it back behind the shoulders, which is a roundabout way of saying longer than shoulder length, but including the explanation why.

I think most people in RL would come up with something similar, but most people here would say something longer than that because:

1) Too long on LHC distorts your perception, LOL!

2) Using any normal RL definition would mean admitting that as many as 50% of women have "long hair", even if only about 2% of men do, which loses most of the exclusivity of being a longhaired person. Nobody wants to be part of the common "riff-raff"!

To me mid-back is long-is and waist is long!

I think of waist as long, but I know many people consider my BSL hair long.

I never considered bsl long, even before LHC. But I think that's because my hair was stuck at bsl, it would break at that length and never get any longer. Eventually it would start looking very fried so I'd cut it off. I guess I always thought waist was long, now I'm past waist and LHC has distorted my perception...I guess I just don't know what is long now. Anything longer than my hair at any given moment :grin:

When I first started growing, I thought BSL was long. I'm pretty sure that was the longest I'd every grown it. Now, I tend to lean toward waist as being long hair.

Though, I'm not consistant. I saw a beautiful head of BSL hair the other day and I thought "wow, that's some gorgeous long hair!" And then I wished mine was that long, only to realize mine is quite a bit longer than that! An interesting moment.

In my area APL and BSL are pretty common, especially on the 25 and under group, and because of the popularity of extentions in So-cal .But still long because Im not quite there yet.

Waist or longer is long on LHC.

If I see damaged long hair, my brain doesnt compute it as being long at all, but I am always pleasantly surprised to see Waist hair that is healthy and with a blunt hemline where I live.I guess thats the impressive long to me.

I'm one of these self-blind people who don't consider myself to have long hair [I've been a longhair for 10 yrs+] but I realize that's just my own weird perception.

So for me, classic is long. On men, past shoulders is probably long. I've not really been able to look at it objectively for awhile :o

I notice that I'm frequently the person with the longest hair almost everywhere that I go. I don't think that my hair is all that long - maybe because I still intend to grow it plenty longer than it already is! I would define anything beyond tailbone length as long :)

Long on other people is BSL and beyond, long on me is waist and beyond.

Though, I also have to say, that as I grow "long" hair is always longer than mine. It just never seems long to me!

Long for me is waist and beyond.
LHC hasn't changed my perception - I always have considered anything between about shoulders and waist to be "medium" length hair. I remember the first time I found out that BSL was supposed to be "long" I was rather surprised. I guess I've had long hair for most of my life if that's the case! It's the longest it's ever been at the moment, and it's just about waist length. STILL doesn't feel long, really.

Even before I came to LHC, like several years before, I was always amazed that I'd get charged for long hair at the salon or hairdressers. I mean, I'm sorry, folks APL isn't long. Even by RL standards it just can't be! Although I guess many would consider it long.

I think long hair begins somewhere after mid back as it approaches waist. LHC standards are probably waist length.

I think waist and below is long. Between shoulders and waist is medium length and anything not long enough to touch the shoulders is very short. My opinion is very skewed, though.

I think that BSL is long-ish, between BSL and waist is long, and beyond waist is really long. When I was younger, I thought that hair should be waist-length before counting as "long," but my opinion changes as I'm around more and more people with shorter hair.

I consider hip to TB long on other people, especially IRL. But I feel like my hair won't be long until it's at least classic. :shrug:

TO me BSL is long.

From waist is long to me.

Since lurking around LHC i think my "long hair" perception changed. It used to be that BSL was pretty long to me but now I consider more around the waist or hip area long hair.

Same here for me. When I was a kid (around 10) my hair was past my bra strap when dry - that's the longest my hair's ever been, btw, been trying to grow it long again but when I let it grow too long I end up sacrificing my curls, so I trim often - now that I've been around LHCers I find that below bra strap is only the beginning of long, if you know what I mean...it's just "about to get long".


Oh, and Amoretti, your hair looks great! Love your signature pic!:)

MBL plus on other people...hip on me!

I was going to say waist, but I think my hair is just about at waist length, and it doesn't feel long!

-- Natalie

Ummm if long means not average ,than I will consider it starts from classic. Because I see a lot of hip/tailbone length hair. And honestly it doesn't look that much long to me. But sometimes on tall people with very thick hair waist length might look quite long too. Weird. Anyway I believe thigh length is very long and knee and beyond would be super duper long and ankle/floor might be the coolest longest ever :lol:

It's strange that our long perceptions change with time as our hair grows longer. I remember tlhs had a long hair model with wurly light brown hair at the opening page. And I used to think WOW her hair is so long! Last month or so I was surfing the archives and saw that picture of the lady again and couldn't believe my eyes. Her hair looked so short...like mine:lol: Well the picture didn't change but I got used to seeing my hair(which has got a lot longer) in the mirror so her hair looked kind of shorter to my eyes:D

I think it all depends on the person. My hair is around mid back but it's over 28 inches long. That doesn't look very long on me because I'm tall, but it would look long for short people.

Ohh I forgot to add that to me it also depends on how used to seeing the person I am. For instance, my best friend. I've seen her every day for over 4 years and just today did I notice that her hair is past waist now, and It didn't look that long to me. I think its because she's always had hair around that length. But If she were to cut it back to BSL I would probably look back and remember how long her hair was before. Don't know if I'm making sense here :)

On most other people BSL looks pretty long, but because I'm a shorty mine won't til atleast waist.

On myself, I feel like tailbone and longer is nice and "long". On others, I think anything past waist I consider long.

BSL to Waist Length is very long to me. Beyond WL (at this very moment) seem unattainable to me :rolleyes:

I suppose technically BSL is long but I don't consider it attention-worthy long (no offense meant) until about waist length... and properly good and long is hip or longer. Since my trim (it's so bittersweet, I keep bringing it up...) my hair is between waist and hip length (3" ish past my waist), and it feels kinda short, especially when watching hair styling demos and seeing how long and lovely some of you have your hair. (Lady Godiva's "log roll" video... I don't think I would be able to handle all that, but, WOW is that some beautiful hair. So smooth and full and shiny....)

I consider true long hair to start at tailbone length and be absolute at classic and below. BSL isn't at all long to me, on myself or other people, and waist is a transition length in between short and long. It feels like a pixie when I look at longhairaddiction videos on youtube and people have floor length and beyond hair, but I'm certainly glad to have waist length hair because it's longer than it's ever been :)

I tend to think of anything above APL as short. APL looks like medium length, but it would probably feel long to me because my hair hasn't been that long in ages, if ever.

At waist, I start to think of hair as uncommonly long. Beyond classic, I tend to think of hair as impressively long.

I have the same standards for men and women. I think it's just because it's not until hair reaches APL that I start to pay attention to how long it is. :shrug:

I guess BSL/mid-back is where long begins for me, but it's kind of subjective. When I had really short pixie hair, I thought that anyone who could put their hair up had long hair!

what is long depends really on what your goals are, for e.g if like me your growing to classic then that is what you perceive as long, same goes if your growing to APL, if that make sense.

Overall I start classing BSL as long but I guess when i get there i will think that it is short, and again when im waist.

For me, having short hair all my life, long hair is just past shoulder length! I still view people with hair just past shoulder length as having long hair.

Well, this is about where it is in my head:
Chin and up:Way too short.
Chin to APL: Still too short but getting better.j
APL-BSL:Short
BSL-HighWaist:Medium
Waist-Hip:Longmedium
Hip-MidButt:Long
Midb-highthigh:Quite long
Anything longer: Very long.

Unless it is a male or a very tall person, that is how it works in my head.
At this point my hair is 'Long' by my above standerds, but I still feel like its ubershort!

past waist is long.... ive never considered apl long and i only considered bsl long on a few people

Between APL & BSL, and longer is Long to me.

Past waist length is long to me.

Anything BSL or less is short. Below the shoulders is super short. For me, it goes with the curve of the back. If it is before the shoulder hump, then it is short. If it gets over the hump and lies down (around waist) then it is long.

Of course anything longer than my hair is super long! :D

Before I came here, I thought long hair was about APL, and really long hair was BSL. Now I think long hair is anywhere below BSL, and really long hair is after WL.

And even after all this I still don't think my hair is very long!

For me waist and beyond is long. :)

BSL/MBL is long to me, at present...I wonder if my opinion will change once I finally reach this goal??????