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sweetbluesky
March 17th, 2009, 09:45 PM
I have heard about using rice water, (the first or second rinse from washing rice before cooking) for beauty reasons. Most of the minerals and vitamins from the rice are in the water. It is supposed to be good for hair and skin. I have heard that it works well to spray some in before putting hair in rollers. I also read this:
Hollywood stylists often spritz rice water onto hair before styling to impart instant volume and fullness.
Does anyone have any other information? Has anyone tried this? Why do you think it would/ would not help?
princess
March 18th, 2009, 05:51 PM
I do not know about rice water. But the water in which rice has been boiled that is after draining and cooling it. It has been used to rinse hair after hairwash down the ages in India. I myself has used it and it gives a silky smoothness to the hair. I have used it long long ago. I think it is very good. I do not know about the water in which rice has been washed.
manderly
March 18th, 2009, 06:13 PM
Hmmm, I've never heard of this.
I would think the starch in the water would possibly add body, but at the same time I think it may cause a powdery dullness.
I eat rice all the time, maybe I'll save some of the rinsing water and give it a try :)
ratgirldjh
March 18th, 2009, 06:19 PM
i have always wanted to try this - but because the method i use to make rice has all the water cooked into the rice i couldn't figure out how.
i guess that you have to boil the rice with extra water or something....
manderly
March 18th, 2009, 06:20 PM
i have always wanted to try this - but because the method i use to make rice has all the water cooked into the rice i couldn't figure out how.
i guess that you have to boil the rice with extra water or something....
Not rice after it's been cooked, the water you use to rinse the rice prior to cooking :)
I can't imagine having fully cooked rice with lots of extra water in it! Must be nasty and slimy.
longhairedfairy
March 18th, 2009, 07:39 PM
Not rice after it's been cooked, the water you use to rinse the rice prior to cooking :)
I can't imagine having fully cooked rice with lots of extra water in it! Must be nasty and slimy.
Depends on what kind of rice it is:)
ETA: Speaking of which, has anyone done this with "black" rice? I dyed some fabric with it once as an experiment, but it didn't stay in too well. I wonder what it would do to hair.
Juneii
March 18th, 2009, 07:42 PM
oooh, I'm going to try that next time I use sushi rice... or even ask my mom when she makes rice
ktani
March 18th, 2009, 07:53 PM
It is the starch but also,
"Water-soluble non-starch polysaccharides .... were isolated from native and malted rice and ragi."
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=18940599
Polysaccharides can build-up on hair.
Rice and arsenic
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showpost.php?p=509880&postcount=1480
more
http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showthread.php?t=8449&page=149
Akiko
March 19th, 2009, 07:42 AM
I have heard of many different ways to use rice water. Washing face, cleaning hardwood flooring, watering plants (my grandmother used to do this all the time), washing dishes and cooking.
When I was looking for info on Shikakai, I found out that Indians use rice water and shikakai/areetha to wash their hair. I tried. Shikakai works better with rice water than just plain water. It removes grease from my hair better.
I have never heard of spritzing rice water to hair, though.
By the way, you can cook rice with extra water. Once you cook rice, you cannot salvage the water. The rice will be very soft. Have you ever had Congee at a Chinese restaurant? They are quite yummy with different flavors. We have OKAYU in Japan, rice cooked with lots of water. Easy to digest. Oftentimes we serve to the sick. Also in Kyoto area, Okayu is a regular breakfast. I think Italian risotto is cooked with lots of water, too. Just my :twocents:
princess
March 19th, 2009, 02:56 PM
The starch that is drained out of cooked rice is used with shikakai to remove oil from hair. It should be washed away completely. I do not think spritzing the hair with starchy water is a good idea. That would make the hair stiff. I have never heard of the method. Washing with "kanji"(starchy water drained from rice. It is full of nutrients and can be had for breakfast too. It used to be used for feeding babies in the days where they used to cook rice with more water and drain the extra water.) is for making hair glossy and shiny with a conditioning effect.
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 03:12 PM
They just seem to be finding this out recently or they are more aware of it, to be more precise.
2008
"Arsenic in baby rice
“One third of baby rice on sale in British supermarkets contains an unsafe level of arsenic”, The Daily Telegraph reported, news that could potentially cause some concern among parents.
.... may be easy to remove inorganic arsenic from water, removing .... arsenic incorporated into the rice husk may be harder. .... suggested that cooking the rice in high volumes of water free from arsenic may be beneficial, but to the detriment of nutrients. .... researchers also suggest that, if were possible, it could be beneficial to grow rice in less flooded conditions in the paddy fields for at least part of the growing season."
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2008/04April/Pages/Arsenicinbabyrice.aspx
2005
“Arsenic is present in rice grain mainly as inorganic arsenic. Little is known about the effect of cooking on inorganic arsenic content in rice and its bioavailability. …. results show that in arsenic endemic areas with subsistence rice diets, the contribution of inorganic arsenic from cooked rice should be considered in assessments of arsenic health risk.”
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17258896
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 03:17 PM
2008
"Using global arsenic data .... the researchers classified rice into two types, where the predominant arsenic forms were either organic or the more toxic inorganic forms. .... that rice from the United States largely contains organic arsenic, which is less easily absorbed into the body and excreted more rapidly than inorganic arsenic.
Rice contaminated with inorganic arsenic prevails in Asia and Europe. .... study suggests that breeding new rice varieties that convert inorganic arsenic to organic arsenic would be an "important risk reduction strategy, especially for countries like Bangladesh and India with arsenic contaminated environments and high rice consumption rates."
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/
2007
"Total arsenic levels in the 107 south central rice samples averaged 0.30 μg/g, compared to an average of 0.17 μg/g in the 27 California samples. .... white rice sample from Louisiana ranked highest in total arsenic (0.66 μg/g) .... an organic brown rice from California ranked lowest (0.10 μg/g). Organic growing conditions, however, do not guarantee low arsenic levels, since any rice growing in arsenic-laden soil soaks up arsenic, says Meharg."
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1892142
princess
March 19th, 2009, 05:18 PM
I guess people have to go back to using organic brown rice. At least it is safe of harmful chemicals.
Aisha25
March 19th, 2009, 05:21 PM
Thats alittle scary cause we eat rice everyday even for dessert so I hope its enough to soak the rice and drain it??? I use rice water and shikakai and it helps to remove most oil from hair like akiko and we use it like princess said.
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 05:23 PM
I guess people have to go back to using organic brown rice. At least it is safe of harmful chemicals.
Organic brown rice can be more risky, depending on the soil and the fact that the arsenic is primarily but not exclusively in the hull and bran.
2007
"Total arsenic levels in the 107 south central rice samples averaged 0.30 μg/g, compared to an average of 0.17 μg/g in the 27 California samples. .... white rice sample from Louisiana ranked highest in total arsenic (0.66 μg/g) .... an organic brown rice from California ranked lowest (0.10 μg/g). Organic growing conditions, however, do not guarantee low arsenic levels, since any rice growing in arsenic-laden soil soaks up arsenic, says Meharg."
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 05:24 PM
Thats alittle scary cause we eat rice everyday even for dessert so I hope its enough to soak the rice and drain it??? I use rice water and shikakai and it helps to remove most oil from hair like akiko and we use it like princess said.
Whit rice can have low levels and cooking the rice in a lot of water is recommended. It depends on the growing conditions.
2008
"Arsenic in baby rice
“One third of baby rice on sale in British supermarkets contains an unsafe level of arsenic”, The Daily Telegraph reported, news that could potentially cause some concern among parents.
.... may be easy to remove inorganic arsenic from water, removing .... arsenic incorporated into the rice husk may be harder. .... suggested that cooking the rice in high volumes of water free from arsenic may be beneficial, but to the detriment of nutrients. .... researchers also suggest that, if were possible, it could be beneficial to grow rice in less flooded conditions in the paddy fields for at least part of the growing season."
http://www.nhs.uk/news/2008/04April/Pages/Arsenicinbabyrice.aspx
princess
March 19th, 2009, 05:58 PM
We eat rice every day. We wash it well. And it is white rice with all the husk removed.
How does the arsenic get into the rice in the first place?
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 06:08 PM
We eat rice every day. We wash it well. And it is white rice with all the husk removed.
How does the arsenic get into the rice in the first place?
The soil. It just absorbs it better than most other grains. This goes back 10 years!
1999
"Gardening on Lead- and Arsenic-Contaminated Soils
.... principal historical sources of lead (leaded gasoline, lead-based paint) and arsenic (arsenical pesticides) are now outlawed in the United States. .... result, overall human exposure to lead and arsenic is much lower than in the past; .... legacy of environmental contamination because of past lead and arsenic use is taking on renewed importance. Recent scientific research suggests that human health, especially for infants and small children, may be adversely affected by exposure to lower levels of lead and arsenic than previously believed. .... taking additional steps to reduce human exposure to the remaining sources of lead and arsenic may be warranted."
http://cru.cahe.wsu.edu/CEPublications/eb1884/eb1884.pdf
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 06:26 PM
2008
".... Two proteins in rice are responsible for transporting arsenite from soil Carcinogen: Arsenic present in the groundwater and in paddy fields irrigated by the groundwater causes skin cancer. Scientists in Japan .... cracked the reason why rice is particularly efficient in assimilating arsenic from paddy soils. .... findings reported in the latest issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences journal have particular relevance to West Bengal and Bangladesh where arsenic poisoning is seen."
http://www.indiaenvironmentportal.org.in/content/rice-more-silica-soil-reduces-arsenic-uptake
princess
March 19th, 2009, 06:32 PM
2008
".... Two proteins in rice are responsible for transporting arsenite from soil Carcinogen: Arsenic present in the groundwater and in paddy fields irrigated by the groundwater causes skin cancer. Scientists in Japan .... cracked the reason why rice is particularly efficient in assimilating arsenic from paddy soils. .... findings reported in the latest issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences journal have particular relevance to West Bengal and Bangladesh where arsenic poisoning is seen."
http://www.indiaenvironmentportal.org.in/content/rice-more-silica-soil-reduces-arsenic-uptake
Any info on rice grown in the southern region of India? That is where I am from and I have eaten rice all my life!
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 06:32 PM
These soils are the legacy of the past in North America and the result of industry elsewhere.
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 06:48 PM
Any info on rice grown in the southern region of India? That is where I am from and I have eaten rice all my life!
There is this from 2006, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V67-4JXY3X7-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=7381d7d72197e1bca7d0d86b0628f0ee
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 06:50 PM
From 2002
Genetically modifying plants to remove arsenic
"Arsenic contamination is an enormous worldwide problem. .... soils are contaminated both through natural occurrences of arsenic and spills and drainage from chemical and manufacturing plants, .... most serious problems involved drinking water. .... Indian state of West Bengal and in Bangladesh, the problem is a crisis, and researchers estimate that more than 112 million people are afflicted with various levels of arsenic poisoning. .... these places, the arsenic levels in water far exceed World Health Organization maximum permissible levels."
http://www.innovations-report.de/html/berichte/umwelt_naturschutz/bericht-13411.html
Elenna
March 19th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Maybe, organic brown rice is a wholesome and benign food. I do know that just because a product is currently organically grown could mean that in the past the soil had chemical fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides and/or pollution. However, Michael Pollan had some good points about organic farming versus factory farming practices. I will take my chances with organic brown rice.
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 07:11 PM
Maybe, organic brown rice is a wholesome and benign food. I do know that just because a product is currently organically grown could mean that in the past the soil had chemical fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides and/or pollution. However, Michael Pollan had some good points about organic farming versus factory farming practices. I will take my chances with organic brown rice.
Of course organic farming is better IMO. That is not the point though with this. It is about what was previously done to the soil, that is now being organically farmed.
princess
March 19th, 2009, 07:50 PM
How does it affect the ricewater used for rinsing hair?
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 08:02 PM
How does it affect the ricewater used for rinsing hair?
"Health Information about Arsenic How can families reduce the risks of exposure to arsenic?
• Keep children from playing in contaminated dirt.
• Frequently wash toys, pacifiers, and other items that go into children’s mouths.
• Wash hands and face after working or playing in the soil or playing on equipment and decks made of arsenic-treated lumber, especially before eating.
• Avoid using arsenic-treated lumber around the home. Never burn arsenic-treated wood.
• Cover contaminated soils with grass or other material.
• Wash garden vegetables and fruits to remove soil particles.
• Remove work and play shoes before entering the house.
• If you have a job that exposes you to arsenic, shower and change clothes before you leave work and wash work clothes separately from other clothes.
• Prevent pets from tracking contaminated soils into your home.
• Damp-mop floors and wipe counters, tables, and window ledges regularly.
• Test your domestic well for arsenic if you live in an area known to have arsenic-containing minerals."
http://www.mde.state.md.us/assets/document/SP_4-19-07_health_information_about_arsenic_factsheet.pdf
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 08:16 PM
2009
"You may be exposed to arsenic by
Taking in small amounts in food, water or air
Breathing sawdust or burning smoke from arsenic-treated wood
Living in an area with high levels of arsenic in rock
Working in a job where arsenic is made or usedExposure to arsenic can cause many health problems. Being exposed to low levels for a long time can change the color of your skin. .... can cause corns and small warts. Exposure to high levels of arsenic can cause death."
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/arsenic.html
princess
March 19th, 2009, 08:18 PM
O.K. I have been eating rice everyday for the past all years ever since I was born. We have eaten rice grown in our farmland where they have chemical fertilizers for the past forty years or so. May be pesticides. Now we buy imported rice from India. Non fragrant, small grained variety. What do we do to continue eating rice without any harmful effects?
We wash it well before cooking it. It is white and husk removed.
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 08:24 PM
O.K. I have been eating rice everyday for the past all years ever since I was born. We have eaten rice grown in our farmland where they have chemical fertilizers for the past forty years or so. May be pesticides. Now we buy imported rice from India. Non fragrant, small grained variety. What do we do to continue eating rice without any harmful effects?
We wash it well before cooking it. It is white and husk removed.
I would use extra water for cooking, limit the amount you eat and not use it on your hair except occasionally. It is about frequency and quantity, especially if you are buying imported rice, grown on possibly contaminated soils and in possibly contaminated water.
princess
March 19th, 2009, 08:38 PM
I buy rice imported from India. Surati Kolam rice it is called. Does it grow on contaminated soil? contaminated water? Contaminated with what?
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 08:42 PM
I buy rice imported from India. Surati Kolam rice it is called. Does it grow on contaminated soil? contaminated water? Contaminated with what?
I do not no where it is gown or the soil there. Arsenic is a possibility.
princess
March 19th, 2009, 08:47 PM
I cannot go here (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases). It says forbidden.
princess
March 19th, 2009, 08:48 PM
I am getting really worried. now. Because I never eat Uncle Ben's converted rice or anything grown in North America, Europe, China or Japan. But if soil is contaminated back home what about us rice eaters?
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 08:51 PM
I am getting really worried. now. Because I never eat Uncle Ben's converted rice or anything grown in North America, Europe, China or Japan. But if soil is contaminated back home what about us rice eaters?
It can be contaminated here too. Here is another article from the Taindian news, http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/indian-american-scientist-develops-arsenic-resistant-bt-rice_10046385.html
princess
March 19th, 2009, 08:54 PM
We do not buy rice grown in eastern India. Only that which is grown hopefully in South India because only the east and the south grown rice in larger areas.
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 10:02 PM
Yes, your rice is grown in southern India.
ktani
March 19th, 2009, 10:06 PM
It is a problem everywhere.
2008
"Arsenic linked to diabetes
.... study predicts a grim future for India where arsenic poisoning is spreading to new areas. India is also called the diabetes capital of the world. .... one problem with the study is that the direct linkage between arsenic exposure and diabetes has not been explored. “This is a cross-sectional study. Two observations have been made on the basis of data available. Only the association can be claimed, not the causality. The two things may happen together, but it’s not necessary that one causes the other. Further studies need to be carried out,” said Nikhil Tandon, professor in the Department of Endocrinology and Metabolism, aiims, Delhi"
http://www.indiaenvironmentportal.org.in/node/266866
ktani
March 20th, 2009, 06:15 AM
If anyone has reason to believe that they are unwell because of arsenic, http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/arsenic/clinical_evaluation.html one's doctor can test (a urine test) to see if one has too much arsenic in one's system. There is some arsenic in all food. It is about the level. There are treatments.
Before changing one's diet drastically, if concerned, check with a doctor.
ktani
March 20th, 2009, 08:18 AM
What are safe levels for arsenic?
2009
".... World Health Organization estimated in 2001 that about 130 million people worldwide are exposed to arsenic concentrations above 50 μg L−1. Affected countries include Bangladesh (30 million exposed people), India (40 million), China (1.5 million) .... United States (2.5 million)..... In Europe arsenic concentrations are below the WHO and EU guideline of 10 μg L−1, .... does not mean that all health risks have been ruled out. .... recommended that the current arsenic standard be reconsidered. Additionally, research .... needed to investigate the desired arsenic standard and to optimize arsenic removal at existing water supply plants."
http://www.drink-water-eng-sci-discuss.net/2/51/2009/dwesd-2-51-2009.pdf
longhairedfairy
March 25th, 2009, 01:37 PM
What about baby food rice cereal sold in the U.S.?
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 01:46 PM
What about baby food rice cereal sold in the U.S.?
I found this, http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Health-condition-categories/Diabetes/Rice-bran-contains-high-arsenic-levels-study.
You can make some calls and do some checking with your doctor on specific brands in your area.
manderly
March 25th, 2009, 01:48 PM
ktani, can you explain to me how cooking in extra water would lower the levels of aresenic in the rice? Wouldn't rinsing it more do more to get rid of excess arsenic?
longhairedfairy
March 25th, 2009, 01:53 PM
I found this, http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Health-condition-categories/Diabetes/Rice-bran-contains-high-arsenic-levels-study.
You can make some calls and do some checking with your doctor on specific brands in your area.
Thank you! This makes me worried because it's used in a recipe I got from the HWS for sick/toothless/underweight hedgehogs. I don't want to use something that might make one of my babies sick!
burns_erin
March 25th, 2009, 01:56 PM
Because I do not think I have seen this added (if it has my apologies).
Once you have the arsenic in your body there is no effective way to treat it. Most of the arsenic leaves the body in like 3 days through your urine, but the rest remains stored in various parts of the body, can accumulate and can continue to do damage. Some are using chelation therapy but there is not enough evidence that it actually works or works without potentially dangerous side effects..
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 02:00 PM
I also found this, http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14592-superfood-rice-bran-contains-arsenic.html?full=true.
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 02:06 PM
ktani, can you explain to me how cooking in extra water would lower the levels of aresenic in the rice? Wouldn't rinsing it more do more to get rid of excess arsenic?
This is all new to me but I did find this.
2009
"Using the right recipe for cooking rice reduces toxic inorganic arsenic content
.... research group from the University of Aberdeen, UK, investigated .... whether the cooking technique has an influence on the final content of toxic arsenic in the prepared rice meal.
.... results indicated that rinse washing was effective at removing circa. 10% of the total and inorganic arsenic from basmati rice, but was less effective for other rice types. .... steaming reduced total and inorganic arsenic rice content, it did not do so consistently across all rice types investigated.
Low volume water cooking did not remove arsenic any further. High volume water : rice cooking did effectively remove both total and inorganic arsenic for the long-grain and basmati rice .... by 35% and 45% for total and inorganic arsenic content, respectively, compared to uncooked (raw) rice."
http://www.speciation.net/Public/News/2009/01/31/4088.html
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 02:16 PM
Because I do not think I have seen this added (if it has my apologies).
Once you have the arsenic in your body there is no effective way to treat it. Most of the arsenic leaves the body in like 3 days through your urine, but the rest remains stored in various parts of the body, can accumulate and can continue to do damage. Some are using chelation therapy but there is not enough evidence that it actually works or works without potentially dangerous side effects..
Wiki has references on this and there is mention of a garlic study, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenic_poisoning
princess
March 25th, 2009, 02:17 PM
We have to cook in high voume of water like in olden days to remove the arsenic in basmati rice?
Oh I love basmati rice and cook it often. Now I have to rinse out every time sigh! Is there a specific cooking time like longer cooking time that usual?
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 02:20 PM
Thank you! This makes me worried because it's used in a recipe I got from the HWS for sick/toothless/underweight hedgehogs. I don't want to use something that might make one of my babies sick!
You are most welcome but the first thing is, do not panic. If you are concerned, talk with your vet.
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 03:12 PM
We have to cook in high voume of water like in olden days to remove the arsenic in basmati rice?
Oh I love basmati rice and cook it often. Now I have to rinse out every time sigh! Is there a specific cooking time like longer cooking time that usual?
Here is the Article again, http://www.speciation.net/Public/News/2009/01/31/4088.html
The original study says this. No mention of cooking temperture. It is about water volume.
"To reduce arsenic content of cooked rice, specifically the inorganic component, rinse washing and high volume of cooking water are effective."
http://www.rsc.org/publishing/journals/EM/article.asp?doi=b816906c
princess
March 25th, 2009, 03:17 PM
Thanks. I do not know what I would have done without reading this thread.
Because you see my mom is a health freak and she is the first one among relatives to start steaming rice to preserve the nutrients. That was at a time every body used to throw out the cooked water from the rice.
Now for the same reasons you have to rinse out the water from the rice!
Because who would have thought something like rice would have arsenic in it?
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 03:19 PM
Thanks. I do not know what I would have done without reading this thread.
Because you see my mom is a health freak and she is the first one among relatives to start steaming rice to preserve the nutrients. That was at a time every body used to throw out the cooked water from the rice.
Now for the same reasons you have to rinse out the water from the rice!
Because who would have thought something like rice would have arsenic in it?
You are most welcome!
It is the world we live in now. And you can always have your blood levels checked by your doctor if you are concerned.
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 03:32 PM
I was not lookng for this. I was researching rice bran and rice bran oil. I just stumbled on all of this. News to me too.
burns_erin
March 25th, 2009, 03:34 PM
Wiki has references on this and there is mention of a garlic study, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenic_poisoning
Cool, I had not heard about that study. Makes me feel better because I already eat ALOT of garlic for my cholesterol. Kind of surprised that www.mayoclinic.com (http://www.mayoclinic.com) does not have that on the list yet though (even if it would be at a grade D).
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 03:40 PM
Cool, I had not heard about that study. Makes me feel better because I already eat ALOT of garlic for my cholesterol. Kind of surprised that www.mayoclinic.com (http://www.mayoclinic.com) does not have that on the list yet though (even if it would be at a grade D).
It is a study on rats and the wording is "may". 3 cloves of garlic a day may help. They need to do more research but garlic is good for you although eating too much is not a great idea, IMO, but it is better than arsenic poisoning.
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 03:47 PM
Garlic cautions for children,
2007
http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/medicine_health/report-78931.html
2009 Adverse effects
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/merckmanual/ub/view/Davis-Drug-Guide/51350/4/garlic
2006
Garlic at drugs.com
http://www.drugs.com/mtm/garlic.html
burns_erin
March 25th, 2009, 03:59 PM
Garlic cautions for children,
2007
http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/medicine_health/report-78931.html
2009 Adverse effects
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/merckmanual/ub/view/Davis-Drug-Guide/51350/4/garlic
2006
Garlic at drugs.com
http://www.drugs.com/mtm/garlic.html
Excellent info, thanks ktani!
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 04:00 PM
Excellent info, thanks ktani!
You are most welcome! Glad to help.
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 04:09 PM
Arsenic in rice is a potential problem. I am not trying to scare anyone. Before getting upset, read everything posted slowly. If there are any concerns, talk to your doctor. There are tests that can be done. There are treatments.
There is now an article I have posted twice, on how to cook rice with high volumes of water to eliminate arsenic from it.
I deliberately did not post the text on garlic. It is not life threatening but there are cautions for it.
Take your time and read slowly.
manderly
March 25th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Thank you ktani :flowers:
ratgirldjh
March 25th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Not rice after it's been cooked, the water you use to rinse the rice prior to cooking :)
I can't imagine having fully cooked rice with lots of extra water in it! Must be nasty and slimy.
hahaha! that makes sense! i actually used the rice in the bags before - just so i could have rice water! but then i chickened out and didn't use it...
but i think i will try washing a cup of rice in a cup of water - then if it works great - i will know how much rice i used and how much water.....
BlackfootHair
March 25th, 2009, 04:14 PM
I love eating garlic. One time I was using garlic powder on my spaghetti sauce and couldn't taste it enough. Took me a while to realise it was powder and not garlic salt. Needless to say I had uber bad breath and diarreah that reaked of garlic. lol Sorry, that's so gross...
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Thank you ktani :flowers:
You are most welcome!
ratgirldjh
March 25th, 2009, 04:17 PM
Of course organic farming is better IMO. That is not the point though with this. It is about what was previously done to the soil, that is now being organically farmed.
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i thought that to be certified organic the soil had to be tested? and that they would often grow root crops, i.e., potatoes, carrots, etc. and then throw them away in hopes of pulling toxins out of the soil faster?
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 04:19 PM
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i thought that to be certified organic the soil had to be tested? and that they would often grow root crops, i.e., potatoes, carrots, etc. and then throw them away in hopes of pulling toxins out of the soil faster?
I am going by this.
2007
"Total arsenic levels in the 107 south central rice samples averaged 0.30 μg/g, compared to an average of 0.17 μg/g in the 27 California samples. .... white rice sample from Louisiana ranked highest in total arsenic (0.66 μg/g) .... an organic brown rice from California ranked lowest (0.10 μg/g). Organic growing conditions, however, do not guarantee low arsenic levels, since any rice growing in arsenic-laden soil soaks up arsenic, says Meharg."
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1892142
longhairedfairy
March 25th, 2009, 06:12 PM
You are most welcome but the first thing is, do not panic. If you are concerned, talk with your vet.
What I use is Beech Nut rice cereal. It contains only rice flour and sunflower oil, so I don't think it contains any bran/hull.
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 06:15 PM
What I use is Beech Nut rice cereal. It contains only rice flour and sunflower oil, so I don't think it contains any bran/hull.
It is in white rice too, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showpost.php?p=518722&postcount=66
longhairedfairy
March 25th, 2009, 07:30 PM
It is in white rice too, http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/showpost.php?p=518722&postcount=66
But wasn't most of it in the bran? Oh, the cereal is pre-cooked, btw.
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 07:36 PM
But wasn't most of it in the bran? Oh, the cereal is pre-cooked, btw.
Here is the link I posted earlier, with the details, http://www.nhs.uk/news/2008/04April/Pages/Arsenicinbabyrice.aspx
There are more links on page 2 of this thread, that you may find of interest.
longhairedfairy
March 25th, 2009, 07:41 PM
Thank you. I'll ask the HWS about this and I've also sent a message to the Beech Nut company asking for info on their product concerning this issue.
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 07:45 PM
Thank you. I'll ask the HWS about this and I've also sent a message to the Beech Nut company asking for info on their product concerning this issue.
You are most welcome!
ktani
March 25th, 2009, 07:47 PM
I'll ask the HWS about this and I've also sent a message to the Beech Nut company asking for info on their product concerning this issue.
This thread is not too long. You may want to read all of the links I posted, to get a perspective on the subject.
23_seconds
July 28th, 2009, 09:13 PM
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