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Bianca
November 29th, 2008, 10:50 AM
Ok, so I bleached my hair today, and it turned a light orange. What color should I use to get it to a beigy blonde ??? Not to dark. I keep reading about violet based colors and I have no idea how to figure out which colors have a blue-violet base ? Is it the numbers one the colors ? I'm from denmark, so can't go to sally's.
I have to go buy it tomorrow, can't live to long with this color :(

JessTheMess
November 29th, 2008, 11:01 AM
First, I would pamper your tresses and give them as much moisture/protein as necessary. I bleached my hair a couple years ago and it killed my hair! Give it a few days before you dye it more.

HairColoredHair
November 29th, 2008, 11:04 AM
Definitely give the hair some time and pampering. Then you'll probably want to look for an 'ash' color.

Kirin
November 29th, 2008, 11:24 AM
Don't use violet based. Don't. You'll regret it.

As an artist I can tell you, to cancel out one color you want the direct opposite on the color wheel. For orange, the direct opposite is GREEN. If you go violet based, picture mixing violet with orange, you'll get a muddy color, bleh.

To find colors with "green" as a base, use colors that say ASH. Use a medium ash blonde and you will end up with not an ash color over the orange, but beige. Trust me, I have a lot of experience in this department.

savi
November 29th, 2008, 11:49 AM
In terms of hair coloring, you need a cool tone (tinting to blue versus warm tone which tints to red, orange or warmer shades..) And I'm just going to give you a rundown incase you are planning to color. Just don't do it quite yet, let the hair recover for some time and pamper it.

Words for this could contain : Ash, pearl..

And numbers (!!) May depend on maker, which annoys me great deal when they don't use the standard..
But usually it would be x.1 / x.2

x = the darkness tone (from 1-10, 10 being lightest platinum blonde & 1 being black)
.xx = shade (1 = ash, 2= pearl)

Let's say for an example.. 8.10, which is mid blonde ash..

And some producers use letters:
A= Ash, P= Pearl, V=violet,
(and warmer tones: G= gold, R= red, N= Naturel, B= Beige etc..)

Bianca
November 29th, 2008, 02:42 PM
Thank you all so much :blossom:

I will try an ash color, kirin, I just hope it dosn't get muddy looking on the light yellow I have by the roots then ??? :)

And savi, thanks for explaining that to me :)

zaftig2k
November 29th, 2008, 03:07 PM
I've had a hairdressers license for over 30 years. It is pretty difficult to get hair that is a dark orange to a beige blonde. Here are two options that might work...

1. Bleach the hair further to a yellow base (two more stages lighter than Orange), then it will accept the beige blonde toner.

2. You could use a High Lift tint with a 40 volume peroxide which will get you closer to a blonde color.

I would not suggest using a boxed color from the store. It doesn't have enough lifting power to get your hair light enough to end up being any shade of blonde. It would end up being a mousey light brown and I doubt that you would be happy with that.

Trying to get a dark hair color to a blonde is quite difficult and best left to a professional.

Kirin
November 29th, 2008, 03:32 PM
I have to agree, a professional colorist is the best way to go. However, not everyone can afford that, lord knows I couldn't. Your results may vary from someone else, but I have successfully lifted black dye to light orange and to beige blonde by using Nice n' Easy Medium ash blonde. My roots were also yellow, and were an ash blonde, but that faded after several days and washes.

You WILL have damage, from bleach and coloring. STRAND TEST. Watch any color you do carefully checking in a well lit room with a mirror. This is the best way to find out how the color will turn out.

Bianca
November 29th, 2008, 03:40 PM
zaftig2k: Thanks. But can't afford a hairdresser at this moment :) And I dont like bleaching, was hoping that one time was enough :) It's light orange, and yellow some places.

Kirin: I have found a color, it's a medium ash blonde 8.1, nutrisse. I'm planning on using that. We dont have nice'n'easy in Denmark. But it's ok to use a permanent color right ? Some say toner, but I dont even know where to find those :p We dont have the biggest selection in little Denmark :)

Missie
November 30th, 2008, 05:49 PM
Bianca, I did like the red hair on you.. one of your photo's named Red. I felt it really suited you.

trillcat
November 30th, 2008, 06:48 PM
zaftig2k: Thanks. But can't afford a hairdresser at this moment :) And I dont like bleaching, was hoping that one time was enough :) It's light orange, and yellow some places.

Kirin: I have found a color, it's a medium ash blonde 8.1, nutrisse. I'm planning on using that. We dont have nice'n'easy in Denmark. But it's ok to use a permanent color right ? Some say toner, but I dont even know where to find those :p We dont have the biggest selection in little Denmark :)

What color level is your hair at now? If you are going for about the same level at an ash, it may not work. Trust me on this. It will not take out the orange and may make it even MORE orange. Or do nothing, which was me. You may have to go very light, then dye it to your color your wanted, or go darker, and risk green hair. If you go back to dark on your own, you have to put back in red tones, or use a warm color.
I have spent the last 3 weeks on google searching for an answer as I also acidentally made my hair orange. there is no quick fix. I bleached it to yellow after the orange by accident (dont always trust test strips) and then put an ash on that to get it to a beige.
If it makes you feel better, it is a very common hair mistake, sadly though one impossible to fix without more chemicals.

eaglefeather71
November 30th, 2008, 07:13 PM
After looking at your pictures, it Looks to me like you are trying to lift Henna. From what I have read it doesn't lift, that may be the light orange that is left in your hair. Using an ash dye should counter the orange, but if its henna, there is really no lifting it further from what I understand.

trillcat
November 30th, 2008, 07:37 PM
Ash will NOT counter the orange!!!! You have to bleach it, or go darker. A toner may help, but you will still have orange as it washes out. What you have in your hair is the natural pigment left after the treatment. Hair goes through colors as it bleaches, orange being one of the last to go as it is the red pigments in your hair.

Kirin
November 30th, 2008, 07:51 PM
As I said, strand test. Mix up a little of the dye and try it on an obscure piece of hair in the back of your head, its the only way to know.

Contrary ..... Ash (green base) counters orange. Violet will cool it, green subdue it. It depends on how light of an orange your hair is. Ash on completely yellowed hair (bleached within an inch of its life) will go muddy.

Again strand test, it will tell you what you need to know.

Kirin
November 30th, 2008, 07:58 PM
http://www.mpowercommunications.net/images/ColorWheel.gif

To counter one color, you need its opposite. On the wheel above, you will see that from orange/red is the blue/green green. (aka ash). Violet counters yellow........... and red counters green (should your hair go green with too much bleach).

Kitara
November 30th, 2008, 08:08 PM
Don't use violet based. Don't. You'll regret it.

As an artist I can tell you, to cancel out one color you want the direct opposite on the color wheel. For orange, the direct opposite is GREEN.
The complimentary color of orange is blue, not green.

trillcat
November 30th, 2008, 09:21 PM
Green counters red, not orange. Blue is the counter color of orange. Purple is the counter of yellow. If you take the primary colors, red, blue, yellow and combine them you will see that, the other two showing the the opposite. Red and blue equal purple, which is the opposite of yellow not being in the mix. Blue and yellow is green, so red is the opposite. Red and yellow is orange, so blue is the opposite. I so did not explain that well, but that is what it is.

Bianca
December 1st, 2008, 05:04 AM
Bianca, I did like the red hair on you.. one of your photo's named Red. I felt it really suited you.

Thanks :blossom: I liked it too, but I got tired of the upkeep. Now it's golden blond. I used an ash blond on the bleached yellow and orange.

Here it is:

http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pTzqm4u6WW1uDBBt7mO5C20KuTg-3MIugyEkQ6DymPUWVmz5wz_NeWQGetwQRX6On

Bianca
December 1st, 2008, 05:12 AM
Well, some of you saying that the ash wouldn't help, I think it did. It's golden blonde. And I like it. I might have to use some purple shampoo to take some of the golden out :)

Thanks for your help everyone :p

Kirin
December 1st, 2008, 08:36 AM
I am very happy this worked for you, the goal was to subdue the orange which it looks like the ash did perfectly. Again at the moment it may not be the perfect shade of blonde you are looking for, but it will be easier now in time to make adjustements to the hue.